From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #626 Dead-Flames Digest #626, Volume #48 Fri, 21 Oct 05 00:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: FEMA E-Mails ("Richard Morris") Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women ("Richard Morris") Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... (Seth Jackson) Re: FEMA E-Mails (Paul) Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women ("k sturm") New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) ("Jim Carroll") Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? ("bill c") Re: The Best Hangover Movie ("Carlisle") Re: New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) ("Bzl.") Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women ("Cal O'Chortus") Re: FEMA E-Mails (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: The Best Hangover Movie (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Paul McCartney (ndc) ("New Yorker In FL") Re: New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) ("Rupert") Re: FEMA E-Mails ("Bob D") Re: "Jefferson Airplane Galactic Reunion" ("Rupert") Go be good. ("ck") Re: FEMA E-Mails (Walter Karmazyn) Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? ("Pete") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Effty") Re: "Comes A Time" Permavine, noB, noP (bigchuck51@aol.com) Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? (bigchuck51@aol.com) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Tom Beck) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? (Spider Dawg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: 20 Oct 2005 20:16:27 -0700 Joe wrote: > RickNBarbInSD wrote: > > > Sorry to hear about all this Joe. Good luck workin' it out! > > We got to see things no other American could ever possibly see. Don't be so sure. We all like to think our experiences are unique, but the reality is that thousands of others have had the same albeit slightly different. > My mind is completely blown. Been there. Ephesus/Archeology Museum (Istanbul) in Turkey. > I'm being very honest in this post, and I hope for 2 things...that you do > visit Bob's site, and that you don't use my honesty to give me a hard time > because we disagree about politics. Won't happen here. I can read the pain in your post. I have been there slightly. My scene was I felt I had much to offer, and I couldn't get my act together to make it happen. It is a bit creepy how my wife and I clicked given our completely opposite backgrounds, but for us, it's about respect. Enough about that, sorry, do what you need to do, but at the same time, I think it is very good to step back and see where you are at and what you got going on at that moment. Some folks hang on to the futile, and others are oblivious to paradise. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: FEMA E-Mails Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:19:16 -0700 wrote in message news:1129863586.761501.229950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> I assume most of you have heard of this by now. >> >> Unreal, yet its real. > > Prove it. Links? Not that I don't believe you, but, you know, > trust but verify. Jeez, did I just ask for one of those annoying > links in a post.... Yeah ... it is a bitch when your worldview starts to collapse, eh? R. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:22:45 -0700 wrote in message news:1129864586.908492.59940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > snip Some folks hang on to the > futile, and others are oblivious to paradise. > > Kurt > Well now ... that is an interesting thought. Thanks ... is that yours, or where did you find it? R. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:38:39 GMT On 20 Oct 2005 06:36:38 -0700, "Sparky the Wonder Dog" wrote: >Seth, I never really have talked about the Patriot Act here or how I >feel about it. I really was talking about this one guy to point out >that Roberts has a particular point of view when he talks about the >Patriot Act and is a particular type of conservative so that it isn't >surprising what he says against Bush and not surprising that, unlike >most conservatives, he really is making a case for a clear terrorist >and, yes, "forgetting" some key details in that article--like who >exactly the client was and what he did. This is exactly why I characterized your argument as "ad hominem". Roberts may be all these things, but none of that was in the article that was posted. Rather than addressing the points in the article, you attacked Roberts. I think that particular article made a good point, which is that Bush, in his "war on terror", is trying to use his power to take away our constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties. >That was it. Roberts hates and fears "neoconservatives" who he thinks >are an "un-American" "treasonous" cabal--no this isn't the ZOG of old >but the belief that America has been "hijacked" by a group of >Israel-beholden "neoconservatives" has been taken up by the old >neo-Nazis, the new-left, and angry members of the old right. See >http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=3436 for where Roberts is >coming from. If you believe in what he is saying I can only say there >are many problems with their arguments. I believe myself that Bush has >been a lame duck from about two months after the elections. ------------------------------ From: Paul Subject: Re: FEMA E-Mails Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:24:13 -0500 Reply-To: ppouliotnospam@mchsi.corn On 20 Oct 2005 19:59:46 -0700, kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > >Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> I assume most of you have heard of this by now. >> >> Unreal, yet its real. > >Prove it. Links? Not that I don't believe you, but, you know, >trust but verify. Jeez, did I just ask for one of those annoying >links in a post.... > >Kurt Try here among many others: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/17/AR2005101701230.html ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:24:25 GMT wrote in message news:1129864586.908492.59940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Some folks hang on to the > futile, and others are oblivious to paradise. > > Kurt > Damn, that sounds like the story of my life!! ------------------------------ From: "Jim Carroll" Subject: New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:27:21 GMT Got the November ICE magazine in the mail today and wanted to pass on these "Live from Austin, TX" DVD (and CD) release dates for Austin City Limits fans: 11/1/2005 - expanded editions (80+ minutes) of performances by: - Dwight Yoakam (10/23/88) - Eric Johnson (12/14/88) - Texas Tornadoes (10/16/90) - John Hiatt & the Guilty Dogs (12/14/93) 11/29/2005 - Johnny Cash (1/13/87 Note: The performance dates are from the ACL archives - ICE has a couple of the dates wrong. According to the article, 20 more releases are planned for 2006! ------------------------------ From: "bill c" Subject: Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:34:40 GMT wrote in message news:1129862823.164166.113590@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The band that opened for Phil at Mardi Gras, I have brain lock and > cannot remember their name (musta been the wine at the bebefit dinner, > yeah thats it) Humphrey or Umphrey something I think. Crap, damn > oldness creepin' up agin. later- > umphreys mcgee ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: The Best Hangover Movie Date: 20 Oct 2005 20:41:35 -0700 Groundhog Day As Good As It Gets Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Sideways (if you want to start drinking again) The Life Aquatic ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:46:24 -0400 "Jim Carroll" wrote in message news:teZ5f.2960$Bf7.516@tornado.texas.rr.com... > Got the November ICE magazine in the mail today and wanted to pass on these > "Live from Austin, TX" DVD (and CD) release dates for Austin City Limits > fans: > > 11/1/2005 - expanded editions (80+ minutes) of performances by: > - Dwight Yoakam (10/23/88) > - Eric Johnson (12/14/88) > - Texas Tornadoes (10/16/90) > - John Hiatt & the Guilty Dogs (12/14/93) > > 11/29/2005 > - Johnny Cash (1/13/87 > > Note: The performance dates are from the ACL archives - ICE has a couple of > the dates wrong. > > According to the article, 20 more releases are planned for 2006! > > I remember seeing the Texas Tornadoes show; gotta get that one. Doug Sahm, Freddy Fender (who rocks!), Augie Meyer, and Flaco Jiminez. What a band! ------------------------------ From: "Cal O'Chortus" Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: 20 Oct 2005 20:41:59 -0700 Joe wrote: > "That scene was repeated just about daily. I got to see a world that will cease to exist in just a few years. A world that no other gringo has ever seen." Yes Joe, you and your friend are the only whites interested in and exploring Mexican culture and peoples. There have been no anthropologists visiting Mexican villages and living with Mexican people documenting their disappearing culture and way of life for the last 50 or more years. No one could ever have possibly seen what you've seen, done what you've done, or lived in as glorious a paradise as you live in. "We got to see things no other American could ever possibly see." Truly, you are a wonder and a unique human being, like no other. How could any American possibly experience the heraldic beauty and joyous wonderment of your incredible adventurous life? "Psycho Sandy sure is beautiful, and I learned a lot about food and plants from her. But, I chose to ignore her many character flaws, and incredible self-absorption and selfishness." Yeah, that self-absorption is hard to deal with. It can make someone who seems interesting and sympathetic come off like an egomaniac neurotic. Always loudly proclaiming their superiority and lumping people together for blanket condemnation. Going on and on and on about how great they are and how everybody else is a stupid loser who couldn't possibly know anything. ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: FEMA E-Mails Date: 20 Oct 2005 20:51:36 -0700 The email that Toad refered to is not mentioned in the link to the WashPost. Got another? Larry ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: The Best Hangover Movie Date: 20 Oct 2005 20:53:00 -0700 And in the sub-catagory of "Best Alcoholic Clown movie", the winner is.... Shakes the Clown! Larry ------------------------------ From: "New Yorker In FL" Subject: Re: Paul McCartney (ndc) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:21:04 -0400 "smack down" wrote in message news:17395-4358477F-92@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net... > Hello..... > I just saw Paul McCartney in Chicago on 10/18, but I can't seem to find > the setlist anywhere. Anybody know what sites I should look for for > setlists? Thanks! :) I bet it was similar to this: (Spoiler) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Magical Mystery Tour Flaming Pie Jet I'll Get You Drive My Car Till There Was You Let Me Roll It Got To Get You Into My Life Fine Line Maybe I'm Amazed Long And Winding Road In Spite Of All The Danger I Will Jenny Wren For No One Fixing A Hole English Tea I'll Follow The Sun Follow Me Blackbird Eleanor Rigby Too Many People She Came In Through The Bathroom Window Good Day Sunshine Band On The Run Penny Lane I've Got A Feeling Back In The USSR Hey Jude Live & Let Die Encore 1 Yesterday Get Back Helter Skelter Encore 2 Please Please Me Let It Be Sgt Pepper The End ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: New Austin City Limits DVD Releases (NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 21:28:20 -0700 Have they released the complete Neil Young or SRV? I've been looking for upgrades for twenty years for those. ------------------------------ From: "Bob D" Subject: Re: FEMA E-Mails Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:03:53 -0400 http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/20/FEMA.Katrina.ap/index.html What a fucking idiot - period. Bob D. wrote in message news:1129866695.982137.184350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The email that Toad refered to is not mentioned in the link to the > WashPost. > Got another? > > Larry > ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: "Jefferson Airplane Galactic Reunion" Date: 20 Oct 2005 21:32:14 -0700 Cool. Thanks for the info... And I have to get Joe's back on this one. I saw the Jefferson Starship some ten or twelve years ago at the Bammies in SF. They smoked with Darby!! She realy brings the same energy as a young Grace, circa 1967 Montery Pop. I shit you not. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Go be good. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:37:52 -0400 http://www.heifer.org/ ------------------------------ From: Walter Karmazyn Subject: Re: FEMA E-Mails Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:48:37 -0700 kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > >>I assume most of you have heard of this by now. >> >>Unreal, yet its real. > > > Prove it. Links? Not that I don't believe you, but, you know, > trust but verify. Jeez, did I just ask for one of those annoying > links in a post.... > > Kurt > Took me a couple minutes to search for and then read through and find said emails. Have your PDF ready and go here: http://tinyurl.com/aqyxs About 19 pages, too much trouble to read through it all? Toughshit then...Ah ok, page 14 & 15, if your in a hurry and not interested in more info... W ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Pete" From: "Pete" Subject: Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:29:10 GMT "Rupert" wrote in message news:1129860912.760718.240000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > I'm thinking that the obvious choice is David Nelson Band! I mean, if > Barry and Mookie are playing with Phil that night, why not sandwich-in > a nice set of DNB for a couple of hours, first. > > Any other suggestions? Electric Hot Tuna ------------------------------ From: "Effty" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 22:36:28 -0700 Work to live, or live to work? This whole thread really highlights a problem unique to our modern society. Why do we tolerate employers owning the biggest portions of our souls? I wonder where these employers will lead us in the end. As long as it's profitable for them I'm sure it will be okay. ------------------------------ From: bigchuck51@aol.com Subject: Re: "Comes A Time" Permavine, noB, noP Date: 20 Oct 2005 22:36:48 -0700 Gone but it will be back soon. later- ------------------------------ From: bigchuck51@aol.com Subject: Re: So who should open for Phil on NYE? Date: 20 Oct 2005 22:38:19 -0700 Electric Hot Tuna huh? Yeah that works... ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:44:24 -0500 Ben wrote: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:17:54 -0400, Brad Greer > wrote: > > >>Yeah, and that's why I won't go to work for a place that tests - it >>has nothing to do with being able to pass a test or not, it has >>everything to do with making a choice to not work for a company that >>doesn't truly value the employees. If you have the choice and balls to make that decision my hat's off to you. I hope I'm never in a situation >>where I have to consider working for a company that tests (if it comes >>down to taking a job with a company that tests or not being able to >>provide for my family, well, preservation is the higher value). >> >>The extra pay, the extra vacation, whatever else they offer might seem >>nice, but the bottom line is the upper management views the employee >>as an "asset" or a "resource", not as a human being. You will have to look long and far to find a company where the upper management views and treats you like a human being rather than a forklift or an extension of a broom handle. Again, if you can do it, my hat's off. > That's EXACTLY how my current employer views me now with any drug > test. > > I work in a cost center and my boss has told our whole dept. that we > aren't appreciated when things go well, but if there are problems - > even when they're not our fault (company opted for the cheap network > provider that can't keep an internet connection up during a > thunderstorm), we catch all the heat. Same here. Welcome to the modern world of "people managers". One the chief characteristics of my employer is that the supervisors ALWAYS try do duck responsibility and cover their asses. Despite that, they NEVER fail to assert their authority in petty ways, ("I saw you eating your lunch at your desk, you know that's not allowed!".) My inner thought? "Fuck yourself bitch, I'll go to the damn lunchroom and just let my phone ring and then to voice mail.". And I may return the call, if I feel like it. Reap what you sow. ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:28:08 -0700 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:44:24 -0500, Tom Beck wrote: >You will have to look long and far to find a >company where the upper management >views and treats you like a human being rather >than a forklift or an extension of a broom >handle. Again, if you can do it, my hat's >off. > Exactly. Since I'm sharing, I'll copy what I just wrote to our HR flunky, the new VP of HR, and the prodigal son who stands to inherit the company: Names have been expunged to protect their identities - I'm pretty certain none of them read rmgd anyway, but what the hell. I expected I would feel better after writing this, but instead it just made me more pissed off. The 401(k) where I work now contributes a whole $250 a year - $5 a paycheck, so I didn't notice when they never enrolled me. Anyway, here it is - it was sent to the HR flunky and I cc'd the other 2. [HR VP] called me last week to discuss some of my concerns regarding [my current employer's] 401(k) plan. She mentioned that I wasn't even enrolled and I distinctly remembered filling out all the paperwork and submitting it to you, so I was sure she was mistaken. However, looking closely at my latest paycheck, I see no deduction for it, so it seems she was right. What happened? Did you lose it? Did you simply fail to file it? We talked about this, so please don't try to tell me I never gave it to you - I distinctly remember doing so. I don't really care since it's such a measly amount anyway - [My new employer] will be contributing 15 times that amount to my 401(k) plan when I start there next month. They will contribute more to my 401(k) plan in the first month I am employed there than [my current employer] was supposed to during the course of an entire year. I'm just a bit upset that this is just 1 more thing that [my current employer] failed me on. I shouldn't be surprised at all, but I am. I really don't care about the money and I'm not going to sue them over this although I think I have a valid cause of action, but it just pisses me off because of the principle of the thing. That's just the tip of the iceberg, so hopefully everyone should understand that I'm not selling my soul by abstaining from smoking pot for a couple of months and submitting to a piss test for a lot more money and much better benefits. The only way to NOT sell my soul would be to live under a bridge or a national park or something like that. ------------------------------ From: Spider Dawg Subject: Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:38:31 -0500 On 2005-10-21, n9ck@earthlink.net wrote: > I bought the new DVD (and CD). Awesome ! Great stuff. I wonder if > they will change the setlist slightly from the London shows. I mean, I > still expect that they'll play the same songs all 3 nights at MSG. But > they have had many months to practice since the London shows, and maybe > they'll break out a few more chestnuts that they hadn't before. Anyone > For Tennis ? No, but I am up for SWLABR, Strange Brew, Tales of Brave Ulysses, and a Mother's Lament encore! Jim ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .