From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #622 Dead-Flames Digest #622, Volume #48 Thu, 20 Oct 05 12:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: An update from college! (ndc) ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 (leftie) Re: An update from college! (ndc) ("k sturm") Re: An update from college! (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish (DB) Re: Vegas '95 ("Ray") Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo ("Dave Kelly") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("pookietooth") Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) ("Ray") Dead sighting (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? (mrose101) Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) ("Carlisle") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 Date: 20 Oct 2005 10:02:17 -0700 Deke_Rivers wrote: > >And any list of great songwriters that doesn't > >include Greg Brown is > >incomplete. > > Or at least the following: > Hank Williams, Fred Rose, Johnny Mercer, Lou Reed, Cindy Walker, > Chuck Berry, Harlan Howard, Smokey Robinson, Carole King-Gerry Goffin, > Leiber-Stoller. And more... > Pierre Rick's Picks top 10 lyricists: 1. Bob Dylan 2. John Lennon 3. Neil Young 4. Robert Hunter 5. Joni Mitchell 6. Chuck Berry 7. John Prine 8. Carol King 9. Smokey Robinson 10. Jon Anderson Rick ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: An update from college! (ndc) Date: 20 Oct 2005 10:05:45 -0700 k sturm wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1129816141.461274.214440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > My daughter sent me this short video, it looks like things are going > > very well so far! Check is in the mail, honey. > > > > http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1616564 > > > > Mark > > > > Ummm, what video?? Oh well, sorry 'bout that. For whatever reason it is gone now. Lets just say that it was a fine example of the perils of overindulgence. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:07:30 GMT "Roxanne McDaniel" wrote in message "ba ba booie" > wrote in message ... Are you working in the same field you majored in college? *************************************** I went to a professional party school and majored in the 5 year Fun Plan. I took university classes (for the undecided students) for the first year, where I met most of the athletes, who were there on scholarships. I decided to pick a major with the least amount of science or math and that was education. I minored in distillary arts (there were 21 bars on campus). These days I'm staying at home with the youngin's and I'd say that I'm putting both my degrees to good use ********************** And I forgot about graduate school... but it was more a lesson in bureaucracy. ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 10:08:28 -0700 Steve Lenier wrote: > I took one awhile back...they had me empty my pockets into a drawer which I > locked and took the key, no pat down or anything beyond that...then into a > small bathroom (alone) in which all the water was turned off so you couldn't > do the dehydrated thing, and you couldn't flush the toilet either...and the > sample container had a thermometer on it, and the urine had to fit within a > certain heat range or they figured you had brought it in...I chatted with > the guy out of interest for a couple minutes, he said people try a lot of > things but that not much works and they usually catch them. > > Steve I've done it a couple of times. The above is almost identical to my experience. Rick ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:11:18 -0700 Deke_Rivers wrote: >>And any list of great songwriters that doesn't >>include Greg Brown is >>incomplete. > > > Or at least the following: > Hank Williams, Fred Rose, Johnny Mercer, Lou Reed, Cindy Walker, > Chuck Berry, Harlan Howard, Smokey Robinson, Carole King-Gerry Goffin, > Leiber-Stoller. And more... Well you certainly have a point there. ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: An update from college! (ndc) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:11:30 GMT "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1129827945.635070.29520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > k sturm wrote: >> "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message >> news:1129816141.461274.214440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > My daughter sent me this short video, it looks like things are going >> > very well so far! Check is in the mail, honey. >> > >> > http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1616564 >> > >> > Mark >> > >> >> Ummm, what video?? > > Oh well, sorry 'bout that. For whatever reason it is gone now. Lets > just say that it was a fine example of the perils of overindulgence. > > Mark > Oh, well since I have a kid in his second year of college, maybe it's better that I don't see it anyway. I'd much rather delude myself that the kid spends his free time studying. k~ ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: An update from college! (ndc) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:13:28 -0700 "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1129827945.635070.29520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > k sturm wrote: >> "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message >> news:1129816141.461274.214440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > My daughter sent me this short video, it looks like things are going >> > very well so far! Check is in the mail, honey. >> > >> > http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1616564 >> > >> > Mark >> > >> >> Ummm, what video?? > Oh well, sorry 'bout that. For whatever reason it is gone now. Lets > just say that it was a fine example of the perils of overindulgence. Like this? http://www.littlesummer.com/65240321/tour.html Or this? http://www.trixieteen.com/65240321/tour.html (all models over 18 blah blah blah.....) OK, maybe there aren't any perils, but there may be some overindulgence on someone's part. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:13:37 GMT "Steve Lenier" wrote in message , The Lord of Eltingville at wrote > greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> joker4153@comcast.net wrote: >>> Just where the hell do I get one of these drug testing jobs, anyway?!!? >>> I'm ready! >>> >>> Larry >> >> I think sometimes they actually want to watch you pee. >> >> That would be a lousy job unless you were gay. >> >> . > > Whenever I had to take a piss test for my DOT physical card (required to > drive trucks interstate), the doctor was in the restroom and it was > shirt off and pants to the knees. He didn't go peering around to see my > johnson, so I think it was just to make sure there were no plastic > bladders hidden in the clothing. > > It's been almost 15 years since my last one, so things might have > changed because of all the new devices that are being sold on the > interenet. I've been thinking about doing some occasional driving for a > bit of extra pocket money, so perhaps I'll get to find out at some point > in the next couple months. > > > ~Ted I took one awhile back...they had me empty my pockets into a drawer which I locked and took the key, no pat down or anything beyond that...then into a small bathroom (alone) in which all the water was turned off so you couldn't do the dehydrated thing, and you couldn't flush the toilet either...and the sample container had a thermometer on it, and the urine had to fit within a certain heat range or they figured you had brought it in...I chatted with the guy out of interest for a couple minutes, he said people try a lot of things but that not much works and they usually catch them. Steve *********************** Ususally they have someone in there with you to make sure you don't dip into the toilet first so you can't dilute the specimen... hence the thermometer. ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:15:26 -0400 volkfolk wrote: > "LP" wrote in message > news:1129739219.738741.56930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Carlisle wrote: >> >>>volkfolk wrote: >>> >>>>"Carlisle" wrote in message >>>>news:1129656541.802825.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>>My first choice would be DP's#25, then #13. >>>>> >>>>>>Even Summer 2004 gets rotation because they had the funk so down and >>>>> >>>>>nobody is better on bass than MG!! >>>> >>>>Mike Gordon is a somewhat pedestrian bass player, whose ability is >>>>limited >>>>by a left hand technique that is somewhat amatuerish and limiting.(He >>>>doesn't use all of the fingers on his left hand, and he doesn't have a >>>>four >>>>or five fret reach because of that) He doesn't have the chops that >>>>great >>>>bass players (or guitar players) need in order to play what ever they >>>>hear >>>>in their head >>>> >>>>Scot >>> >>>Thanks Scot. I had no idea. I'll rephrase my sentence>>>and there's >>>nobody that I enjoy more on bass than Cactus. How's that? Technique? I >>>haven't a clue..I'm not a musician. I go by whatever moves me. And I do >>>get carried away when I'm going on and on about Phish. I realize this. >>>They still rocked. With that said, my current all time favorite show is >>>11/14/73 San Diego Sports Arena. Music doesn't get any better (for me) >>>than this. The good ol' Grateful Dead not just another rock n roll >>>band! >> >>Don't let the anti-Phish sway you carrie. Gordo was a great player in >>the context of Phish, and his technique works for him quite well. > > > MG is a passable Bass player. Great is not an adjective that any objective > listener would apply to his bass playing. If he hadn't been in Phish, he > would have probably been in some VT bar band playing the Rusty Nail in Stowe > on Saturday nights. > > SNIP < > I love the Rusty Nail! The most surprisingly good show I have ever seen was in that place when I saw Tito Jackson with his blues band there a few years ago. I went for a laugh and found he could really play the blues -- even before Michael had his problems. DB ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Vegas '95 Date: 20 Oct 2005 10:21:42 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "JC Martin" wrote in message > news:c0E5f.60$te3.1717@typhoon.sonic.net... > > > Ray wrote: > > >> I always loved the spectacle of all those Deadheads in Vegas. So I > >> always had a blast at Vegas Dead, even when the band wasn't on their > >> game. And I do recall some high points from that run, at least > >> relatively speaking - that Dew and the Truckin', at least, were > >> memorable (in a positive way) for me. I wouldn't be at all suprised if > >> it didn't hold up on the tapes however. > > > I always had great times in Vegas. But that particular year, I remember > > the traffic being horrendous, and I was really stunned to see Garcia > > looking as if he was on his last legs. I just had that feeling, and > > watching large groups of people high, smiling and dancing to a man clearly > > from my view on his way out, disturbed me. I was definitely on a > > different wavelength than the majority of the audience. > > I walked out of at least one show. > > Saw a baby literally broiling in the sun, naked, while the "mom" tried to > sell herself in the lot. For some reason that sort of thing just totally > disgusted me this time, ruining my entire day. Gee Toad, you're just too uptight. :-o > Felt real bad for Jerry; the usual disappointment coupled with anger. > > The earlier original unbridled thrill of having them come to my town for a > long run, of seeing the clan descend on the Strip, of having Vegas turn into > Mendocino for a weekend, had faded away by '95. My casino employee friends > had originally found the heads endearing; they were saying all the usual > stuff about how friendly and cool everyone was compared to the usual shlubs > they had to take shit from. By '95 it had become "when do these smelly, > rude, panhandling freaks go away?" Deadheads not welcome in Vegas? That's saying something. I saw them/us get kicked out of Berkeley for pretty much the same reasons (too many smelly, rude, panhandling freaks) - which is of course also saying something. Sad. Your 'smelly' comment reminds me of seeing Phish in Vegas one time. At a blackjack table the dealer said to me and my friends, "You are all here for the Phish shows, right? You all seem so nice and normal. What I don't understand is, what's with all these other Phish fans who don't wash themselves? That just doesn't make any sense to me." We told her that we didn't know - it never made any sense to us either. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:54:29 GMT "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1129816642.468566.172630@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I dragged my buddy, who also happens to be my boss, to see Susan > Tedeschi last night at Lupos in Providence. Very small crowd, but her > Dad and uncle were standing next to me all night ...nice enough dudes, but they NEVER offered to buy me a cognac..WTF?...anyways after "Stormy Monday", I screamed out "GODDAMN DO YOU HAVE NICE CANS!"....and "JESUS, DEREKS TAPPIN' THAT ASS!"... next thing I know, Uncle douchebag throws a punch, and it was ON!.. I bitch slapped pappy Tedeschi 3 or 4 times before he fell on the floor.. I HATE beating up senior citizens, but this punk fucked with Nantucket.. NO ONE fucks with me....ESPECIALLY at Lupo's...dig that...anyways, as I was delivering a final kick in the crotch to Uncle Redneck, I pointed at Susan up on stage and screamed "THIS IS FOR DICKEY BETTS" By this point, there was dead silence in the room...tables scattered all over the room...chairs knocked over...I locked eyes with Susan as I strutted out of Lupos...there was fear in her eyes...actually, I think she was awestruck at FINALLY seeing what a REAL man looks like... I found my buddy and we piled into the '67 GTO..our work was done. Nantuckets Finest ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: 20 Oct 2005 11:15:43 -0700 Walked to work today listening to the second disc of DP16 and felt like I was in a Fillmore vortex. Phil was shaking the rafters at one point, then his bass sounded like a dragon roaring out of the speakers. The Dark Star -> Other One transition is a complete mind melt. I like what Phish I've heard, but obviously no band can touch the Dead. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo Date: 20 Oct 2005 11:19:31 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1129816642.468566.172630@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >I dragged my buddy, who also happens to be my boss, to see Susan > > Tedeschi last night at Lupos in Providence. Very small crowd, but her > > Dad and uncle were standing next to me all night ...nice enough dudes, > but they NEVER offered to buy me a cognac..WTF?...anyways after > "Stormy Monday", I screamed out "GODDAMN DO YOU HAVE > NICE CANS!"....and "JESUS, DEREKS TAPPIN' THAT ASS!"... > next thing I know, Uncle douchebag throws a punch, and it was ON!.. > I bitch slapped pappy Tedeschi 3 or 4 times before he fell on the floor.. > I HATE beating up senior citizens, but this punk fucked with Nantucket.. > NO ONE fucks with me....ESPECIALLY at Lupo's...dig that...anyways, > as I was delivering a final kick in the crotch to Uncle Redneck, I pointed > at Susan up on stage and screamed "THIS IS FOR DICKEY BETTS" > By this point, there was dead silence in the room...tables scattered all > over the room...chairs knocked over...I locked eyes with Susan as I > strutted out of Lupos...there was fear in her eyes...actually, I think she > was awestruck at FINALLY seeing what a REAL man looks like... > I found my buddy and we piled into the '67 GTO..our work was done. > > Nantuckets Finest Amazingly, that's almost exactly how it went down. However, we took my '68 Camaro last night. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 11:20:54 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > I hear ya. I still think however this is about Scooter and Rove. Very > unlikely that Cheney falls on this one. It's doubtful IMO that Cheney > even gave a direct order to reveal Plame's name I agree, although remember that this went down when BushCo was seemingly invincible and the media were their lap dogs. It's possible that Cheney might have become overconfident and slipped up here, as Rove and Libby apparently did. > and even if he did, it > would be hard to prove. Agreed. I doubt we'll see charges against Cheney. > But let's face it, they're gonna > have 2 new Supreme Court justices before it's all said and done...quite > an accomplishment for the Republican Party and conservatives in general. Agreed, although if Miers is confirmed many Republicans will disagree. Including Robert Bork, who came to the opposite conclusion: "With a single stroke--the nomination of Harriet Miers--the president has damaged the prospects for reform of a left-leaning and imperialistic Supreme Court, taken the heart out of a rising generation of constitutional scholars, and widened the fissures within the conservative movement. That's not a bad day's work--for liberals." http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007424 Ray ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Dead sighting Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:30:47 GMT The _Humble Stumble_ comic strip of 10/20. http://www.comics.com/comics/humblestumble/ -- Ken Fortenberry - no beard, no dress ------------------------------ From: mrose101 Subject: Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:36:28 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ==============060501030708070504090704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: >jomcguire1@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>>Seriously, will this be another Clapton effort to cash in on his past >>>glory by charging $300+ per ticket to play his golden oldies? >>> >>> >>Oh for crying out loud! >>If you have to criticize him, at least criticize him for someone he has >>acually done, not for some stupid internet rumor that you are part of >>spreading around. >> >> > >He sucks and is way overrated for everything he has done? >Seriously, take a poll, I'll bet the number one criticism >is that he is simply overrated and takes a bit of limelight >from those who may deserve more. > >Kurt > > > Have any of you seen the DVD of Cream from RAH?....it was surprisingly good....and this from someone who was prepared to be underwhelmed. In fact i thought Bruce as a bass player was the weakest link....just my two cents ==============060501030708070504090704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: 
jomcguire1@yahoo.com wrote:
  
Seriously, will this be another Clapton effort to cash in on his past
glory by charging $300+ per ticket to play his golden oldies?
      
Oh for crying out loud!
If you have to criticize him, at least criticize him for someone he has
acually done, not for some stupid internet rumor that you are part of
spreading around.
    

He sucks and is way overrated for everything he has done?
Seriously, take a poll, I'll bet the number one criticism
is that he is simply overrated and takes a bit of limelight
from those who may deserve more.

Kurt
Have any of you seen the DVD of Cream from RAH?....it was surprisingly good....and this from someone who was prepared to be underwhelmed.  In fact i thought Bruce as a bass player was the weakest link....just my two cents
==============060501030708070504090704== ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 11:56:16 -0700 Ray wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > > I hear ya. I still think however this is about Scooter and Rove. Very > > unlikely that Cheney falls on this one. It's doubtful IMO that Cheney > > even gave a direct order to reveal Plame's name > > I agree, although remember that this went down when BushCo was > seemingly invincible and the media were their lap dogs. It's possible > that Cheney might have become overconfident and slipped up here, as > Rove and Libby apparently did. > > > and even if he did, it > > would be hard to prove. > > Agreed. I doubt we'll see charges against Cheney. > > > But let's face it, they're gonna > > have 2 new Supreme Court justices before it's all said and done...quite > > an accomplishment for the Republican Party and conservatives in general. > > Agreed, although if Miers is confirmed many Republicans will disagree. > Including Robert Bork, who came to the opposite conclusion: > > "With a single stroke--the nomination of Harriet Miers--the president > has damaged the prospects for reform of a left-leaning and > imperialistic Supreme Court, taken the heart out of a rising generation > of constitutional scholars, and widened the fissures within the > conservative movement. That's not a bad day's work--for liberals." > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007424 > > Ray Good link. Regardless of your political perspective, the Wall Street Journal is a great newspaper. The Weekend & Personal Journals are worth their weight in gold. Even the pro-business Opinion section offers differing and informative perspectives. I learned alot about economics from Robert Bartley himself. The WSJ makes a good counterbalance to most city papers. Although, it will probably dwarf most other news in the quality, intelligence and content departments. Food for thought anyway!! cheers, Carrie ps-Robert Bork is a reactionary grouch with a grudge. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .