From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #621 Dead-Flames Digest #621, Volume #48 Thu, 20 Oct 05 10:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: 'Crony-ism' - is this a word ??? ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: any Johnny Guitar Watson fans? (JC Martin) Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) (JC Martin) Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... (JonP) Re: "Jerry and Friends" show ID help? (Shawn Lucas) Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("volkfolk") Re: Any words to say about The Simpsons moving to the Arab world? ("Bzl.") Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo ("Nick's Picks") yet another great spot for downloads... ("Nick's Picks") Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo ("Schmoe") Re: An update from college! (ndc) (leftie) Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) ("volkfolk") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("dyrewlf") Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) ("Carlisle") Re: An update from college! (ndc) ("k sturm") summer of love art show ("frank stacey") Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo (leftie) Re: 'Crony-ism' - is this a word ??? (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Brad Greer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: 'Crony-ism' - is this a word ??? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:50:08 -0700 "Don Bean" wrote in message news:AdN5f.16295$Hm3.15523@fe09.lga... > We all know what this means by now. You promote your friends regardless of > if they are qualified for the job... Example 1 - 'Brownie has it under > control in New Orleans'.... > Is this a new word that has come into the world now or has it been around > for a while ???? > Either way.... it fits the current leadership on top quite well... > Bean Thomas Jeferson and James Madison, among others, regularly bashed Alexander Hamilton for cronyism related to his running of the Treasury Department and his setting up of the Bank of the United States and the treasury security markets. Don't know if they used this exact word, but they sure knew its meaning. EGBH ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: any Johnny Guitar Watson fans? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:23:37 GMT kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > I picked up Ain't That A Bitch and Funk Beyond The Call > Of Duty from dustygroove last week. I had them on vinyl > along with several other albums from the same period. > > Does anyone else like this stuff? Oh yeah. The original Gangsta of Love. A real motha fo ya. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:44:04 GMT scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: > I don't know JC, self preservation is a strong instinct. It looks like > the Cheney office is starting to squeal. A second Cheney aid is now > talking: > > Theresa > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Second_Cheney_aide_cooperating_in_leak_1019.html > > Second Cheney aide cooperating in leak probe, those close to case say > Jason Leopold and Larisa Alexandrovna > > A second aide to Vice President Dick Cheney is cooperating with the > special prosecutor's probe into the outing of covert CIA agent Valerie > Plame Wilson, those close to the investigation say. > > Late Monday, several sources familiar with Special Prosecutor Patrick > Fitzgerald's probe said John Hannah, a key aide to Vice President > Dick Cheney and one of the architects of the Iraq war, was cooperating > with Fitzgerald after being told that he was identified by witnesses as > a co-conspirator in the leak. Sources said Hannah was not given > immunity, but was likely offered a "deal" in exchange for > information that could result in indictments of key White House > officials. > > Now, those close to the investigation say that a second Cheney aide, > David Wurmser, has agreed to provide the prosecution with evidence that > the leak was a coordinated effort by Cheney's office to discredit the > agent's husband. Her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, was one > of the most vocal critics of the Iraq war. I hear ya. I still think however this is about Scooter and Rove. Very unlikely that Cheney falls on this one. It's doubtful IMO that Cheney even gave a direct order to reveal Plame's name and even if he did, it would be hard to prove. No doubt the damage has been done though. Bush/Cheney are completely lame-duck for the next 3 years. Their spin machine is in permanent disrepair. But let's face it, they're gonna have 2 new Supreme Court justices before it's all said and done...quite an accomplishment for the Republican Party and conservatives in general. And the real question is, will Democrats and liberals tighten up their message and fill the leadership void? From a political standpoint this is a hell of an opportunity. But the left tends to be self-destruct in these instances, searching and struggling for their values in a complex and confusing world rather than sticking to a simple message which resonates with the general electorate. We wouldn't be human if we didn't have doubts. But that doesn't mean you put those doubts on display, not in the age of TV droidism anyway. -JC Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:23:30 -0700 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:28:21 -0700, Walter Karmazyn wrote: >Joe wrote: >> Who cares what conservatives think? They're all mentally ill. And, did I >> mention insane? >> >> Joe If you represent the other side......Ill take the republicans... JonP ------------------------------ From: slucas_2@ya_nospam_hoo.com (Shawn Lucas) Subject: Re: "Jerry and Friends" show ID help? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:31:56 GMT On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:20:41 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville wrote: > >I have a copy of a "Tueday Night Jam" that came with the following info >file (although this date isn't listed at thejerrysite, the shns came >with an addt'l jpeg of a poster that shows a date of May 21, but the >year was omitted): > > > >One of the posters can be seen here >-- > >I haven't listened to the gdlive version to see if it might be the same >thing with a few cuts missing/edited. This version starts off with a >54+ minute jam... > > >~Ted Hey Ted, Thanks for the suggestion. I have the 5/21/68 show and this stuff that I'm trying to ID is totally different material. I've finally been able to give it a listen and its got someone (Papa John Creach?) playing violin and it sounds crisper than most of those '68 Matrix tapes. Its kind of interesting stuff...worth a listen if you like unpolished, kinda bluesy, loose instrumental jams. Shawn ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:45:39 -0400 "LP" wrote in message news:1129739219.738741.56930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Carlisle wrote: >> volkfolk wrote: >> > "Carlisle" wrote in message >> > news:1129656541.802825.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > > My first choice would be DP's#25, then #13. >> > >> Even Summer 2004 gets rotation because they had the funk so down and >> > > nobody is better on bass than MG!! >> > >> > Mike Gordon is a somewhat pedestrian bass player, whose ability is >> > limited >> > by a left hand technique that is somewhat amatuerish and limiting.(He >> > doesn't use all of the fingers on his left hand, and he doesn't have a >> > four >> > or five fret reach because of that) He doesn't have the chops that >> > great >> > bass players (or guitar players) need in order to play what ever they >> > hear >> > in their head >> > >> > Scot >> >> Thanks Scot. I had no idea. I'll rephrase my sentence>>>and there's >> nobody that I enjoy more on bass than Cactus. How's that? Technique? I >> haven't a clue..I'm not a musician. I go by whatever moves me. And I do >> get carried away when I'm going on and on about Phish. I realize this. >> They still rocked. With that said, my current all time favorite show is >> 11/14/73 San Diego Sports Arena. Music doesn't get any better (for me) >> than this. The good ol' Grateful Dead not just another rock n roll >> band! > > Don't let the anti-Phish sway you carrie. Gordo was a great player in > the context of Phish, and his technique works for him quite well. MG is a passable Bass player. Great is not an adjective that any objective listener would apply to his bass playing. If he hadn't been in Phish, he would have probably been in some VT bar band playing the Rusty Nail in Stowe on Saturday nights. His work with Leo Kottke was interesting, but then again, what he did with Leo is not what I would describe as "bass" playing. > He does use his fret hand in an unconventional manner, but the only > amatuerish and limiting thing here is one guy's obsession with putting > down all things Phish. Lighten up Francis, you're the only one here who doesn't get the joke. Scot PS I can't be that amateurish, I hook you every time. ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: Any words to say about The Simpsons moving to the Arab world? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:49:21 -0400 > Any words to say about The Simpsons moving over to the Arab world? > Maybe Ashley will be a big hit in Saudi Arabia. ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo Date: 20 Oct 2005 09:03:26 -0700 yea, shes shagadelic. and has nice fun bags. :) ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: yet another great spot for downloads... Date: 20 Oct 2005 09:03:54 -0700 http://www.shnflac.net/ ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:13:17 -0400 DB wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> I dragged my buddy, who also happens to be my boss, to see Susan >> Tedeschi last night at Lupos in Providence. Very small crowd, but >> her Dad and uncle were standing next to me all night and she put on >> one hell of a show. Not much of a guitar player but that girl can >> sing, and her stage presence is sexy as hell. Go see her if you >> have the chance, highly recommended. >> > > She was great when the Other Ones reformed in the fall of 2002. She > is playing Irving Plaza in NYC on Friday. I wish I could go. I'll be there. Very psyched for that show. Then Cream Monday followed by SKB the following Sunday. Happy October! :) ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: An update from college! (ndc) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:19:59 -0700 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > My daughter sent me this short video, it looks like things are going > very well so far! Check is in the mail, honey. > > http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1616564 That link didn't work.... ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:29:36 -0400 "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message news:3roj2aFkiebrU1@individual.net... > BC-NA-GEN--US-ObesityLaw 10-19 0438 > Ho-House votes to block lawsuits blaming food industry for obesity > By LIBBY QUAID > Associated Press Writer > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican-controlled House voted Wednesday to > shield > fast-food chains from lawsuits that blame them for making people fat. > > Nicknamed the ``cheeseburger bill,'' the measure stems from lawsuits > accusing McDonald's of causing obesity in tens of thousands of children. > The > food industry has asked Congress and state legislatures to protect it from > liability, and so far, 21 states have agreed. > > ``You cannot litigate personal choices and lifestyles,'' said Republican > Rep. Mike Rogers. > > House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, also a > Republican, said > potential costs from the lawsuits threaten the food industry and its 12 > million employees and raise food prices for consumers. > > ``These suits would be laughable if they were not so harmful,'' > Sensenbrenner said. > > The measure, which won approval on a 306-120 vote, would prevent class > action lawsuits blaming restaurants and food companies for weight gain or > obesity. The House passed a similar bill last year, but the Senate ran out > of time to act. > > Two-thirds of American adults are overweight, and nearly one-third are > obese, while obesity among children and teenagers more than doubled in the > past 30 years, according to government estimates. > > Critics of the bill contend that a better way to make people responsible > for how they eat is to require nutrition information on menus and menu > boards. > > ``But of course this silly legislative effort has nothing to do with > encouraging personal responsibility and everything to do with pleasing a > powerful and politically connected industry,'' said Michael Jacobson, > director of the Washington-based Center for Science in the Public > Interest. > > A food industry lobbyist said lawsuits against food companies are the > wrong way to fight obesity in America. > > ``More energy must be put into solving the problem of obesity, and less > into assigning blame for the purpose of collecting legal fees,'' said Hunt > Shipman, executive vice president of government affairs and communications > for the Food Products Association. > > Courts have dismissed most obesity claims, but an appeals court in New > York reinstated one lawsuit against McDonald's earlier this year. It is > stil > pending. I think this bill is long overdue. Frivilous lawsuits are killing this country, and nothing is more frivilous than someone taking a company to court because they don't have the self discipline to not supersize their meal Scot ------------------------------ From: "dyrewlf" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:29:36 GMT "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message news:R5O5f.98$EP6.478@eagle.america.net... > > "Brad Greer" wrote in message > news:fb6fl15mm64k3rvoddne0vojb7jgo86jqu@4ax.com... > >> It depends a bit on your career choice and how well you are prepared >> to answer the question about a gap in employment. "I took some time >> off to help my sick mother" is something no employer would question, >> for instance (not that I'm advocating lying, but it's one way to >> handle the question). > > On the contrary, telling a potential employer you took time off to help > your sick mother is a red flag for future FMLA use or abuse. FMLA is > tremendously costly to some companies. Where I used to work we had 60% of > the staff with an approved FMLA leave of one kind or another. Most of the > abuse centered around employee medical issues like migraines and "stress", > but I can say that our HR department, while publicly proclaiming that they > would never take FMLA leaves into consideration when hiring, evaluating, > or promoting employees, they in fact *did* and discussed these things in > private with management prior to making decisions. > EGBH > The FMLA can be costly to some companies, because they have to hire temps or have others do overtime to cover lost productivity. Others actually encourage it's use. I worked for a hospital that actually helped people come up with reasons to be able to use FMLA. I used FMLA for paternity leave, but was amazed at the reasons they would come up with for others to use it. These were workers that could've been fired for abuse of sick time. The ironic thing is that these people ended up taking more days off than had they not signed on for FMLA because now they were able to take days off without fear of retribution. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) Date: 20 Oct 2005 09:30:58 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message > news:3roj2aFkiebrU1@individual.net... > > BC-NA-GEN--US-ObesityLaw 10-19 0438 > > Ho-House votes to block lawsuits blaming food industry for obesity > > By LIBBY QUAID > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican-controlled House voted Wednesday to > > shield > > fast-food chains from lawsuits that blame them for making people fat. > > > > Nicknamed the ``cheeseburger bill,'' the measure stems from lawsuits > > accusing McDonald's of causing obesity in tens of thousands of children. > > The > > food industry has asked Congress and state legislatures to protect it from > > liability, and so far, 21 states have agreed. > > > > ``You cannot litigate personal choices and lifestyles,'' said Republican > > Rep. Mike Rogers. > > > > House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, also a > > Republican, said > > potential costs from the lawsuits threaten the food industry and its 12 > > million employees and raise food prices for consumers. > > > > ``These suits would be laughable if they were not so harmful,'' > > Sensenbrenner said. > > > > The measure, which won approval on a 306-120 vote, would prevent class > > action lawsuits blaming restaurants and food companies for weight gain or > > obesity. The House passed a similar bill last year, but the Senate ran out > > of time to act. > > > > Two-thirds of American adults are overweight, and nearly one-third are > > obese, while obesity among children and teenagers more than doubled in the > > past 30 years, according to government estimates. > > > > Critics of the bill contend that a better way to make people responsible > > for how they eat is to require nutrition information on menus and menu > > boards. > > > > ``But of course this silly legislative effort has nothing to do with > > encouraging personal responsibility and everything to do with pleasing a > > powerful and politically connected industry,'' said Michael Jacobson, > > director of the Washington-based Center for Science in the Public > > Interest. > > > > A food industry lobbyist said lawsuits against food companies are the > > wrong way to fight obesity in America. > > > > ``More energy must be put into solving the problem of obesity, and less > > into assigning blame for the purpose of collecting legal fees,'' said Hunt > > Shipman, executive vice president of government affairs and communications > > for the Food Products Association. > > > > Courts have dismissed most obesity claims, but an appeals court in New > > York reinstated one lawsuit against McDonald's earlier this year. It is > > stil > > pending. > > I think this bill is long overdue. Frivilous lawsuits are killing this > country, and nothing is more frivilous than someone taking a company to > court because they don't have the self discipline to not supersize their > meal > > Scot Tell it brother!! ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: An update from college! (ndc) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:37:17 GMT "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1129816141.461274.214440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > My daughter sent me this short video, it looks like things are going > very well so far! Check is in the mail, honey. > > http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1616564 > > Mark > Ummm, what video?? ------------------------------ From: "frank stacey" Subject: summer of love art show Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:51:54 GMT http://www.californiahistoricalsociety.org/exhibits/love.html ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Derek Trucks is one lucky mofo Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:52:11 -0700 Hope & Desire rocks! ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: 'Crony-ism' - is this a word ??? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:30:38 -0400 Don Bean wrote: > > We all know what this means by now. You promote your friends regardless of > if they are qualified for the job... Example 1 - 'Brownie has it under > control in New Orleans'.... > Is this a new word that has come into the world now or has it been around > for a while ???? > Either way.... it fits the current leadership on top quite well... > Bean Mr Webster thinks so... Main Entry: cro·ny·ism Pronunciation: -nE-"i-z&m Function: noun : partiality to cronies especially as evidenced in the appointment of political hangers-on to office without regard to their qualifications ------------------------------ From: Brad Greer Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:59:10 -0400 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:47:13 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote: > >"Brad Greer" wrote in message >news:fb6fl15mm64k3rvoddne0vojb7jgo86jqu@4ax.com... > >> It depends a bit on your career choice and how well you are prepared >> to answer the question about a gap in employment. "I took some time >> off to help my sick mother" is something no employer would question, >> for instance (not that I'm advocating lying, but it's one way to >> handle the question). > >On the contrary, telling a potential employer you took time off to help your >sick mother is a red flag for future FMLA use or abuse. FMLA is >tremendously costly to some companies. Where I used to work we had 60% of >the staff with an approved FMLA leave of one kind or another. Most of the >abuse centered around employee medical issues like migraines and "stress", >but I can say that our HR department, while publicly proclaiming that they >would never take FMLA leaves into consideration when hiring, evaluating, or >promoting employees, they in fact *did* and discussed these things in >private with management prior to making decisions. > >Since one never knows what's going on behind closed doors at a potential >employer, never ever admit to any personal or family medical problems. I'm not suggesting you say you took FMLA time off, which wouldn't show a gap in employment. It will depend on the employer, of course, whether they view leaving your job to care for a sick family member is a negative or not. Of course, you could say "took some time off to help my last surviving relative through the end stages of cancer" which would imply no more family leave to take in the future :) >> Or, "I was laid off due to downsizing and had >> the luxury of taking my time to find a new position. I wanted to find >> a position that would help advance my career, not just another >> paycheck." In fact, employers tend to like that type of response. >> But, I work in the software industry and gaps in employment aren't >> necessarily all that uncommon for people (remember the dot bomb >> implosion?). > >I remember a guy we interviewed who when asked about his 12 year gap in >employment history declared he was in San Quentin serving time for vehicular >manslaughter. He ran a red light and killed a teenage pedestrian. He was >applying for a *driving* job. 12 years is tough to explain. I'm sure the guy got an A for honesty at least. >>>Now, if ya want my personal position, it is as follows: never, never work >>>for someone who would test for drugs if being clean is unrelated to job >>>performance. If they disrespect your right to privacy in that fashion, it >>>is likely they will disrpespect you in some other fashion as well. > >> Amen. > >My old outfit, the one who used FMLA leaves against their staff, hair tested >all new hires. Last I heard they were eliminating 40% of all applicants >because of failed tests. > >And yes, they respected no one. > >EGBH > ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .