From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #612 Dead-Flames Digest #612, Volume #48 Wed, 19 Oct 05 09:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("volkfolk") Re: Happiness is . . . ("Dylanstubs") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("volkfolk") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("volkfolk") Re: For Camel Toe lovers ("volkfolk") Re: Happiness is . . . ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... (Joe) Re: Jerry Garcia Amphitheater Sign Dedication 10/29 (fwd) (Joe) Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) ("Dylanstubs") Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 ("volkfolk") Re: Happiness is . . . (John Doherty) Re: anyone going to check out CREAM? ("volkfolk") White House Indictment vigil(NDC) (John Doherty) Re: "they're all the same" (ndc) (Joe) Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) (Joe) Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: The Colberr Raporr (NDC) (brew ziggins) Re: 2-12-89 FOB 24bit for DVD burning ("Dylanstubs") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish ("Carlisle") Re: audio extraction questions (DB) Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 (JimK) Re: moe. and Govt Mule in SF (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? (JimK) Re: Jerry Garcia Amphitheater Sign Dedication 10/29 (fwd) ("Rupert") Tom Constanten torrent ("Dylanstubs") Re: Tom Constanten torrent ("Dylanstubs") Re: Tom Constanten torrent (Gary & Ellie) Re: SOT: Maning of Locomotive Breath? (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Carlisle") Re: Maning of Locomotive Breath? (Brad Sondahl) Re: Vegas '95 (JC Martin) (NDC) EFF cracks printer-tracking code (Kelly Humphries) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("pbleers@hotmail.com") Re: (NDC) EFF cracks printer-tracking code (brew ziggins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 19 Oct 2005 05:03:30 -0700 Neil X. wrote: They stood. They > watched. I pissed. Very public. This is not unlike attending a show at Great Woods with the illustrious Mr. Kreuger. Mark ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:13:03 -0400 "DB" wrote in message news:dj39ku$1l3$1@eri0.s8.isp.nyc.eggn.net... > You decide. http://jambands.com/ is running the following poll and > disturbingly, Live Phish has three of the top 5 spots. Come on folks, go > and vote. > Ok, you KNOW I have to say it. Phish Suck. HTH, Scot ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: Happiness is . . . Date: 19 Oct 2005 05:21:32 -0700 > Steve Terry wrote: > "Dylanstubs" wrote in message > news:1129658861.198197.265490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >. . . heading into the men's room stall and discovering some kind soul > > has left you the Sports page. :) > > > > Ewwww, the guy before you prolly alternated back and forth between turning > the page and wiping his ass. That ain't happiness. That's gross, IMHO. Buzzkill. SOP dictates putting the newspaper down for good when wiping commences. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:25:35 -0400 "Carlisle" wrote in message news:1129656541.802825.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > My first choice would be DP's#25, then #13. >> Even Summer 2004 gets rotation because they had the funk so down and > nobody is better on bass than MG!! Mike Gordon is a somewhat pedestrian bass player, whose ability is limited by a left hand technique that is somewhat amatuerish and limiting.(He doesn't use all of the fingers on his left hand, and he doesn't have a four or five fret reach because of that) He doesn't have the chops that great bass players (or guitar players) need in order to play what ever they hear in their head Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:26:53 -0400 "Ben" wrote in message news:j5kal113uu9u72fqa9glmkmnphveplmlci@4ax.com... > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:46:38 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville > wrote: > >>Carlisle wrote: >>> >>> My first choice would be DP's#25, then #13. >>> Sure the Grateful Dead is the stand out groundbreaking band with the >>> better songs and lead guitarist. But face it>>Phish could lay down the >>> jamz. They've rocked my world and I never even saw the band live, fyi. >>> Even Summer 2004 gets rotation because they had the funk so down and >>> nobody is better on bass than MG!! >> >>You misspelled "Dave Schools or Oteil Burbridge." I think you're >>slipping in your old age... ;-> > > You misspelled Alphonse Johnson, although at least you can spell Oteil You both misspelled Jaco Pastorious Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: For Camel Toe lovers Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:31:27 -0400 Now that was just plain wrong Scot ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Happiness is . . . Date: 19 Oct 2005 05:34:35 -0700 Dylanstubs wrote: > > Steve Terry wrote: > > "Dylanstubs" wrote in message > > news:1129658861.198197.265490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > >. . . heading into the men's room stall and discovering some kind soul > > > has left you the Sports page. :) > > > > > > > Ewwww, the guy before you prolly alternated back and forth between turning > > the page and wiping his ass. That ain't happiness. That's gross, IMHO. > > Buzzkill. SOP dictates putting the newspaper down for good when wiping > commences. Um, that's SWP. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... Date: 19 Oct 2005 12:48:03 GMT Who cares what conservatives think? They're all mentally ill. And, did I mention insane? Joe ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Jerry Garcia Amphitheater Sign Dedication 10/29 (fwd) Date: 19 Oct 2005 12:50:23 GMT Dave Kelly wrote: > The Jefferson Starship ( Kantner version) are going to play > or thats what I hear. Me too. Is Sweetback going to finally meet Geraldine for the ass kicking he so rightously deserves? Joe ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) Date: 19 Oct 2005 05:56:19 -0700 > Nimrod Q. Puppystuffer wrote: > "Dylanstubs" wrote in message > news:1129644127.686847.27970@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Learn > > hoW TWO OPERate > > A > > COMPuterKEybaorddd. It was a copy and paste issue. I should have previewed it first. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:57:02 -0400 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:1O2dnaim2q1Pkc7enZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Well said, Rick, well said. Hunter is an enormously talented man ... > imnsho one of the great American lyricists. He was missed, but he was > definitely there. Hunter is the only lyricist who is on a par with Dylan, and actually may surpass Dylan IMO (Depending on my mood that day) Scot ------------------------------ From: John Doherty Subject: Re: Happiness is . . . Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:03:17 -0400 In article <1129659465.479812.320390@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com wrote: > Why do people read while engaged in that activity? > We're fans of the Uncle John's Bathroom Readers, a paperback series of odd articles of various length, intended just for this, er, venue. I always liked that line froma Marx Bros. movie when Grouch gets locked in a bathroom from the outside. he hammers on the door: Wham Wham Wham "let me outta here!"Wham Wham Wham "let me outta here!" Wham Wham Wham "let me outta here, or throw in a magazine!" ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: anyone going to check out CREAM? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:05 -0400 "gb" wrote in message news:M8Kdnfo0q4N5-c3eRVn-vQ@adelphia.com... > "Richard Morris" wrote in message > news:UYudnS3La5Lk_M3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com... >> >> "gb" wrote in message >> news:KrGdnWng5vo3yM3eRVn-pw@adelphia.com... >> > are there rumors they'll play more than just MSG? >> > >> > >> >> Yes! I started one yesterday ... they are going to come out to San >> Francisco in May and perform at Winterland. >> >> R. >> > > man, what is the deal with this newsgroup? I used to be on here all the > time. I took a break for a year or so, and now it seems like there's 90% > sarcasm. I'll bet someone replies to this post with a "genosteaks" link > or > something.... Meet the new boss (same as the old boss) Scot ------------------------------ From: John Doherty Subject: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:44 -0400 from the blog of former CIA agent Larry Johnson: Had lunch today with a person who has a direct tie to one of the folks facing indictment in the Plame affair. There are 22 files that Fitzgerald is looking at for potential indictment . These include Stephen Hadley, Karl Rove, Lewis Libby, Dick Cheney, and Mary Matalin (there are others of course). Hadley has told friends he expects to be indicted. No wonder folks are nervous at the White House. Posted by Larry Johnson on October 18, 2005 at 03:48 PM | Permalink http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/10/a_new_tidbit_on.html ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: "they're all the same" (ndc) Date: 19 Oct 2005 13:05:42 GMT scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: > 85% of the women in the White House Administration under William > Jefferson Clinton said they'd never have sex with him again. > I don't condone a man's (or woman's) infidelity, but what is happening > now to the collective whole is far more serious than what happened > between a man and a wife. Why? Who really needs children with intact brains, or clean air? ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 19 Oct 2005 13:10:29 GMT Ummm. Everyone at the White House is guilty of crimes against humanity. Even 2 year olds suffering from mercury poisoning know that. So do the 300.000 dead iraqis. But hey, as long as Halliburton is making money and prozac is available, who gives a flying fuck. Let's all have a Big Mac and watch TV. ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: 19 Oct 2005 06:12:56 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > You both misspelled Jaco Pastorious You did, too. http://www.jacopastorius.com/ Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: The Colberr Raporr (NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:39:14 -0400 Thus spake frndthdevl@aol.com... > > scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: > > And I fell asleep just as it came on. I'll try again tonight. > > > looks like they do reruns following the Daily Show at 2:30 pst and 8:30 > pst. Yeah, I caught the first show last night on the 8:30 pm (EST) rerun. Freaking hilarious. Of course, they've had six months to write that show. But having, seen Ep 1, I am VERY optimistic for the show. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: 2-12-89 FOB 24bit for DVD burning Date: 19 Oct 2005 06:39:12 -0700 There were some nice moments in this show, but the highlight of the weekend for me was the Drums on Saturday night, with Flora Purim and Diana Moreira doing this MINDBLOWING singing/chanting thing. Airto was rather intoxicated as well. Steve Parish sort of "helped" him off the stage. :) ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: 19 Oct 2005 06:43:03 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > "Carlisle" wrote in message > news:1129656541.802825.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > My first choice would be DP's#25, then #13. > >> Even Summer 2004 gets rotation because they had the funk so down and > > nobody is better on bass than MG!! > > Mike Gordon is a somewhat pedestrian bass player, whose ability is limited > by a left hand technique that is somewhat amatuerish and limiting.(He > doesn't use all of the fingers on his left hand, and he doesn't have a four > or five fret reach because of that) He doesn't have the chops that great > bass players (or guitar players) need in order to play what ever they hear > in their head > > Scot Thanks Scot. I had no idea. I'll rephrase my sentence>>>and there's nobody that I enjoy more on bass than Cactus. How's that? Technique? I haven't a clue..I'm not a musician. I go by whatever moves me. And I do get carried away when I'm going on and on about Phish. I realize this. They still rocked. With that said, my current all time favorite show is 11/14/73 San Diego Sports Arena. Music doesn't get any better (for me) than this. The good ol' Grateful Dead not just another rock n roll band! All good things in all good time, Carrie ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: audio extraction questions Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:43:15 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > "Steve Terry" wrote in message > news:dj3vga$2nn4$1@news.iquest.net... > >>"Bill" wrote in message: >> >> >>>What's the SHN plug for? >> >>I think it allows you to play shn files without ever having to convert >>them to wav (audio). >> > > > ayup ... I have the flac plug in, and it works nicely. gotta get the shn! > > R. > > Now, if they only made a digital music player that played both shn's & flac's, I might toss out my discman. I hate explaining to people that I am not behind the technology curve by insisting on listening to a lossless format even when I am on the go. DB ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Robert Hunter Journal update, 10/14/05 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:46:59 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:57:02 -0400, "volkfolk" wrote: > >"Richard Morris" wrote in message >news:1O2dnaim2q1Pkc7enZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Well said, Rick, well said. Hunter is an enormously talented man ... >> imnsho one of the great American lyricists. He was missed, but he was >> definitely there. > >Hunter is the only lyricist who is on a par with Dylan, and actually may >surpass Dylan IMO (Depending on my mood that day) > >Scot > I think Van Morrison is probably up there with them, too, although he'd definitely take third place in that group. JimK ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: moe. and Govt Mule in SF Date: 19 Oct 2005 06:51:32 -0700 What the ?!?! Uh, does this have anything to do with Algebra kicking your ass, so to speak? Now, I am going primarily be cause of moe. (and a nice redhead deadhead I know), but Govt. Mule aint half bad. In any case, moe. will be enough to ensure a good time. Yea, we can split a beer on NYE, most likely. The SKB download didn't work and I haven't figured out what happened. Oh well, it's only 2005. I'll get this shit figured out before the next millenium. Larry ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:54:02 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 19 Oct 2005 04:49:30 -0700, "Rogues Island's finest" wrote: > >ba ba booie wrote: >> Are you working in the same field you majored in college? I was always too fucked up to remember what I majored in. To this day I have no idea how I graduated. I do recall meeting with my faculty advisor at the end of my senior year (I had last seen him when I started my freshman year). He looked at the courses I had taken during my four years and commented derisively on the seeming lack of any coherent direction. I agreed, but told him I'd had one helluva time, then got up and left. I've been an early retiree for a few years now, and I can't remember what the hell it was I used to do for a living, nor do I want to. JimK ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: Jerry Garcia Amphitheater Sign Dedication 10/29 (fwd) Date: 19 Oct 2005 07:08:20 -0700 You mean Sweets might go outside for something other than a Kimock show? Damn, I'm bringin' the whole family! Seriously though, free outdoor shows are about all we can go to these days with the little guy. Fortunately, this seems to be the season for 'em. ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Tom Constanten torrent Date: 19 Oct 2005 07:21:49 -0700 On the Yeeshkul (Pink Floyd) tracker, of all places. http://www.yeeshkul.com/torrenttrader/torrents-details.php?id=263 ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: Tom Constanten torrent Date: 19 Oct 2005 07:24:40 -0700 Tom Constanten 06.19.1983 the Old Waldorf San Francisco 2nd Gen SBD cass > sf7 > flac Cold Rain and Snow Ragtime Dance Ragtime Nightmare That Hand Played Rag Solis a Mexican Seranade Green & Gold Take the Cake Walk the San Andreas Stomp Fields of Flowers Boogie Woogie Blue Speaking Parallax Land of the Hassled and Free Deja Dark Star Sound of Rocks Getting Off unknown the Entertainer encores: Rialto Ripples unknown unknown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:25:15 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: Tom Constanten torrent Dylanstubs wrote: > On the Yeeshkul (Pink Floyd) tracker, of all places. > > http://www.yeeshkul.com/torrenttrader/torrents-details.php?id=263 > Can you post some info about the show? I don't want to register there unless I have too. Thanks ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: SOT: Maning of Locomotive Breath? Date: 19 Oct 2005 08:02:16 -0700 Gary wrote: > And the all-time winner > Has got him by the balls. I read an amusing story once about how the label thought radio might find this line too risque in the 70's, so they edited in a word from another verse to replace "balls" and the line became "got him by the fun." Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: 19 Oct 2005 08:13:56 -0700 JimK wrote: > On 19 Oct 2005 04:49:30 -0700, "Rogues Island's finest" > wrote: > > > > >ba ba booie wrote: > >> Are you working in the same field you majored in college? > > I was always too fucked up to remember what I majored in. To this day > I have no idea how I graduated. I do recall meeting with my faculty > advisor at the end of my senior year (I had last seen him when I > started my freshman year). He looked at the courses I had taken during > my four years and commented derisively on the seeming lack of any > coherent direction. I agreed, but told him I'd had one helluva time, > then got up and left. > > I've been an early retiree for a few years now, and I can't remember > what the hell it was I used to do for a living, nor do I want to. > > JimK That's pretty funny, JimK. I can relate insofar as my academic dean was a Catholic nun and I got called in. I'm thinking, "This lady's religious, she'll be easy to deal with, right?." Wrong!! She was mean as hell and made me feel lower than a grub worm for "wasting my parent's money", etc..I got it together because I NEVER wanted to have to face Sister Kate again. True story. I was a History major and had illusions of teaching high school. Tried that. Did NOT have the personality nor the intestinal fortitude for that career! I'm a sales person, I guess. Managed rental property for seven years before I tried to pursue my ill-fated teaching dream>>>then I got preggo. Keep it real. Mrs. Car Whistle ------------------------------ From: Brad Sondahl Subject: Re: Maning of Locomotive Breath? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:21:04 GMT Jeff Howe wrote: > "Gary" wrote in message > news:43557adc$0$96610$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... > >>Ok, so weird thoughts sometimes enter my mind and then >>won't leave until complete. Heard Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath >>on the radio the other day. I've never been much of a Tull fan, but >>this song, at this time, seemed very, uh, hmmm, real(?) to me. >> >>Anyone know what that song is about, what it means, or >>what it could mean? > > > Never knew what it meant.... > > ...but it has an all-time top 10 just exackly perfect(tm) > guitar solo... > > here's to you, martin barre, wherever you are... > > ~jeff > > My sister sat next to Martin Barre on a plane flight (not first class) a couple years ago--she's old enough not to know what Jethro Tull was about. I think she said he was going to a casino gig (the Branson of 60's rock bands). She said he seemed to be a nice guy. My comment was, you should have heard him playing on "Locomotive Breath." Brad Sondahl -- For my pottery how-to videos, original art, music, pottery, and literature, visit my homepage http://sondahl.com ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Vegas '95 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:23:12 GMT Ray wrote: > Stuknot wrote: > >>Andrew Murawa wrote: >> >>>"Jeff" wrote in message >>>They were, all in all, pretty damn bad shows... Are they worth listening >>>to though? Sure, why not. If only to confirm that they were indeed >>>pretty bad shows... There were a couple relative highlights here and >>>there... >>> >>>I thought the Sunday show was "best".... Post-drums is pretty cool I >>>think... http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=13964 >> >>I had to leave after Saturday for some reason, so I missed Unbroken on >>Sun. I do remember a good Uncle John's and SOTM on Fri., and Sat.'s >>Morning Dew was good too. > > > That Dew was the highlight of the run for me. I had a great time that > weekend, if only because not having a great time on a Vegas Dead > weekend would have been difficult - they were always a blast. But the > shows themselves left much to be desired. Haven't heard the tapes. Jerry was just a mess at these shows IMO. My very last show was Sunday, and I knew Jerry was on his last legs. I told one of my friends who I went with on the drive home that Jerry probably wasn't going to be with us for very long. Very sad weekend, despite being with two of my best friends. -JC ------------------------------ From: Kelly Humphries Subject: (NDC) EFF cracks printer-tracking code Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:41:58 -0700 The Electronic Frontier Foundation has cracked a code which allows printers to be tracked down to date/time of printout and serial number of printer, based on a grid of yellow dots printed on each page. http://tinyurl.com/9m36p List of (known) printers at: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php how to read the code from a page printed on a Xerox DocuColor machine: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/index.php#program From a United Press International article: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20051019-095443-3123r "The U.S. Secret Service acknowledged the markings, which are not visible to the human eye, are there, but it played down the use for invading privacy. " 'It's strictly a countermeasure to prevent illegal activity specific to counterfeiting,' U.S. Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said. 'It's to protect our currency and to protect people's hard-earned money.' " Mmm-hmmm. It's for your *protection*!####### ------------------------------ From: "pbleers@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: 19 Oct 2005 08:55:32 -0700 I changed my major about 20 times-communication, anthropology, liberal arts generalist, geology, etc.......finally decided on Political Science (focused on Marx, Hegel, Kant...........I wanted to understand what all the full was about) which naturally led to a satisfying career as a headhunter. There's a joke in my industry-no one ever grows up wanted to be a headhunter, it just happens. I can relate to that. ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: (NDC) EFF cracks printer-tracking code Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:59:29 -0400 Thus spake Kelly Humphries ... > The Electronic Frontier Foundation has cracked a code which allows > printers to be tracked down to date/time of printout and serial number > of printer, based on a grid of yellow dots printed on each page. > > http://tinyurl.com/9m36p > > List of (known) printers at: > > http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php > > how to read the code from a page printed on a Xerox DocuColor machine: > > http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/docucolor/index.php#program > > From a United Press International article: > > http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20051019-095443-3123r > > "The U.S. Secret Service acknowledged the markings, which are not > visible to the human eye, are there, but it played down the use for > invading privacy. > > " 'It's strictly a countermeasure to prevent illegal activity specific > to counterfeiting,' U.S. Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said. > 'It's to protect our currency and to protect people's hard-earned > money.' " > > Mmm-hmmm. It's for your *protection*!####### I don't like this kind of sh*t any more than the next FreedomLover(tm). But the ability of counterfeiters to pose ruinous damage to world economies with desktop equipment you can buy at Home Depot requires these kinds of measures. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .