From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #610 Dead-Flames Digest #610, Volume #48 Tue, 18 Oct 05 21:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: First show/last show (Steve McHenry) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: Visiting San Francisco (Steve McHenry) Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? (Steve Lenier) Re: (ndc) Nov. 2nd ("Millhaven") Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? (Steve Lenier) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Steve Terry") Re: audio extraction questions (Gary & Ellie) Re: so...who owns a "hippy store" here? ("k sturm") Re: First show/last show ("Jeff Howe") Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish (DB) A good mule ("seraphim") Re: More firsts and lasts ("Jeff Howe") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Jeff Howe") Re: Maning of Locomotive Breath? ("Jeff Howe") Legion of Mary Permavine (thomasasmric@aol.com) Re: Vegas '95 ("Carl Sparndan") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Neil X.") Re: audio extraction questions ("Neil X.") Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) ("Nimrod Q. Puppystuffer") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve McHenry Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:39:59 -0700 On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:21:25 -0500, "Steve Terry" pounded on the keyboard until the following appeared: >Let's take a poll, for strictly non-scientific purposes. Here it goes... >What was your first Grateful Dead concert, and your last? 7/1/78 Kansas City 4/2/95 Memphis s ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:43:22 -0700 On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:04:37 -0700, "Richard Morris" wrote: > >"Gary" wrote in message >news:43557bc2$0$41000$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... >> >>> Yeah ... and if you get caught up in a random test and get terminated, >>> you >>> have an unexplainable gap in your work history. That can dog you for a >>> number of years. >> >> Don't worry about crap like that till it happens. There are always ways to >> explain >> that type of thing. > >Can you name one way--just one--that would reflect positively on the person >and make them more competitive in a hiring situation? > You don't have to tell them the circumstances - if you're qualified they may not even ask. I wasn't asked about a 6 month gap in my resume 5 years ago, even though the job after that resulted in a layoff. >R. > ------------------------------ From: Steve McHenry Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:48:56 -0700 On 17 Oct 2005 05:53:32 -0700, steve5877@hotmail.com pounded on the keyboard until the following appeared: >Hey all > >I'll be visiting SF from 11/5 through 11/12 on business with >significant free time. The tourism stuff I can figure out, I believe. >The only thing I'm interested in that's a bit off the norm is driving >Rt 1 for some coastal scenery. I've been told that North is less >crowded and just as nice. Anyone confirm? No. Better views and much more coastline to the south. Much of Highway 1 to the north of San Francisco runs inland. Once you get outta town, the crowds are not bad at all. Driving down the San Mateo County coast through Santa Cruz, and then south past Big Sur makes for one fine day's drive. You'll get traffic in Santa Cruz > Capitola, and likely some slowdowns at Moss Landing. Then there's Monterey and Carmel. Once you are on the southern outskirts of Carmel at Pt. Lobos, you'll be cookin! If you get a good start, on the way back you could take Carmel Valley Road up to that town. Nice wine and some cool restaurants. If you *really* get an early start you could make it down to San Simeon, but that's a hell of a long drive. The key is to take it slow and never be afraid to pull off and ogle the scenery. About a month ago we headed down south and, on the way back in the Ventana area, a condor swooped off the mountains and just in front of my car! One of the coolest bird sightings I've ever had. steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:45:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? From: Steve Lenier in article Y_65f.14486$vV4.13025@fe08.lga, Schmoe at jschmoe@yourguess.com wrote on 10/18/05 6:44 AM: > Rumour mill has Derek Trucks likely to tour with Clapton next year in a > Derek & The Dominos show. Derek cut 9 tracks with Clapton earlier this year > for EC's upcoming album. > > If this happens and the tour cuts into the normal ABB schedule, does Dickey > get invited back? Stay tuned...same bat time...same bat channel... > > Discuss. > > and does it get called Derek and Derek and the Dominos? Steve ------------------------------ From: "Millhaven" Subject: Re: (ndc) Nov. 2nd Date: 18 Oct 2005 18:47:19 -0700 Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > So who's going to the meet up in their town? I am. > http://www.worldcantwait.org Even though I think Cheney would make a much better President, I am going to see U2 that day. Kathleen Hanna is cute, too bad she hates men. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:56:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? From: Steve Lenier in article 5802-4354FE2C-1244@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net, ba ba booie at ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net wrote on 10/18/05 6:52 AM: > > Are you working in the same field you majored in college? pretty much...I double-majored in journalism and english, and I've now been an editor for about 18 years (Managing Editor for all but the first 4 years)...mostly I've been with print publications, mostly medical stuff...in 2000 I left the print world and jumped onto the Internet, doing online medical web content and business stuff...then at the beginning of this year I moved back into print, with a magazine for retina specialists...still do some online stuff for various clients. So the journalism and english definitely lead to the editing, I never had any intention of going medical but that's what happened and it's been great, and the online stuff developed as the Web was born, long after college. It's been a great career, rather twisty and turny but strangely cohesive in focus overall. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:01:42 -0500 "Bzl." wrote in message news:3rlhl2Fk13sqU1@individual.net... > > "walstib77" wrote in message > news:1129669210.713742.61890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>I started off a Chemistry major. And then I was a Sound Engineering >> major. Then Marketing. Then advertising. Then English. >> >> I got a degree in English, and the last year of school, I realized if I >> went two more quarters, I could get a degree in Economics also. >> >> So I did. >> >> However, what I really majored in was touring with the dead on Spring >> break and in summer; saw about a hundered shows while I was doing >> school. Thank you, Uncle Sam, for the student loan program! I also >> played in a very active rock band throughout school. >> >> When I got out, I moved to Hoboken NJ, saw a bunch of east coast shows >> from 93-95, and managed a warehouse before I ended up in music sales >> and then a variety of sales jobs. >> >> I'm currently trying to transition into journalism. >> >> So really, I majored in Dead Tour, and sadly, I am no longer doing >> that. >> > > I majored in accounting, and still do that for a living. I know that > there are a few CPAs on this board, so I ain't alone 'cuz it's unlikely > that we numbercrunchers majored in anything else. > I majored in finance and worked at an accounting firm for a couple years. Quit that gig, followed the dead, delivered pizzas, now delivering mail. (Does anyone out there really understand the Alternative Minimum Tax?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:07:19 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: audio extraction questions Bill wrote: > "Steve Terry" wrote > >>"Bill" wrote in message: >> >> >>>But EAC can't be used for copying a data disk (such as a flac or shn > > disc) > >>>to a blank CD. Presently I use Adaptec's Easy CD Creator (CD Copier >>>option) >>>to copy data CDs. Is this copying the data accurately (like EAC >>>presumably >>>would) or should some other program be used? >> >>Can't you just verify file integrity by using the MD5's of the discs you >>burned? > > > I don't know. I need to read up on md5 files. But if I'm doing a straight > copy of an shn or flac disk, aren't I just copying the existing md5 file? > If so, I don't think the md5 would tell me how good the copy of the shn or > flac disk is. > > Typically, the process that people use for archiving lossless files is to burn the ffp or md5 file to the disc as well. After burning the md5 is run to make sure the data was burned to disc accurately. To extract, just select the files you want to extract and drag them to a folder on your computer, just like you were moving any other file. After you copy the lossless files and the md5 to your hard drive, run the md5 again to make sure it copied to your hard drive okay. If not, recopy the offending file from the disc. This method will guarantee that you get files that match the originals. Something that someone using EAC will never be able to guarantee. ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: so...who owns a "hippy store" here? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:22:23 GMT "Nick's Picks" wrote in message news:1129681597.415162.166910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8344381427&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT > > for example... > Nick, hers are nice, but yours are better!! ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Howe" Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:24:43 -0400 First show: Boston Garden, 5/7/77 Last show: also the Gahden, 9/30/93 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:diunhv$15ht$1@news.iquest.net... > Let's take a poll, for strictly non-scientific purposes. Here it goes... > What was your first Grateful Dead concert, and your last? Anything after > 7/9/95 doesn't count. Ladies, I can understand your sensitivities about > revealing your age, but remember, this is for strictly non-scientific > purposes. Larry the Joker inspired this by telling us that his first show > was 3/3/68 and his last was 5/27/89. Wow, that's a helluva range! My first > was 6/30/84 and my last was 6/22/93, I think. What was your first and last > show? > ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Dicks Picks vs. Live Phish Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:31:23 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > "DB" wrote in message > news:dj39ku$1l3$1@eri0.s8.isp.nyc.eggn.net... > >>You decide. http://jambands.com/ is running the following poll and >>disturbingly, Live Phish has three of the top 5 spots. Come on folks, go >>and vote. > > > Time for the periodic Dead/Phish foo-fraw, is it? > > R. > > Hey, I like Phish as much as the next guy, but come on, if you could only bring one show with you on a long road trip, would it really be a Phish CD? I don't think so. DB ------------------------------ From: "seraphim" Subject: A good mule Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:35:45 GMT Algebra!!!! Damn!! Good mule!!! A couple from Montana were out riding on the range, he with his rifle and she (fortunately) with her camera. Their dogs always followed them, but on this occasion a Mountain Lion decided that he wanted to stalk the dogs (you'll see the dogs in the background watching). Very, very bad decision... The hunter got off the mule with his rifle and decided to shoot in the air to scare away the lion, but before he could get off a shot the lion charged in and decided he wanted a piece of those dogs. With that, the mule took off and decided he wanted a piece of that lion. That's when all hell broke loose... for the lion. As the lion approached the dogs the mule snatched him up by the tail and started whirling him around. Banging its head on the ground on every pass. Then he dropped it, stomped on it and held it to the ground by the throat. The mule then got down on his knees and bit the thing all over a couple of dozen times to make sure it was dead, than whipped it into the air again, walked back over to the couple (that were stunned in silence) and stood there ready to continue his ride... as if nothing had just happened. Fortunately even though the hunter didn't get off a shot, his wife got off these 4... I didn't include the photos but if you wanna see a poor mountain lion get bitten to death and tossed about I'll e-mail it to ya ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Howe" Subject: Re: More firsts and lasts Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:40:44 -0400 "Seth Jackson" wrote in message news:1onal19to0mohpd71e8doo3cgqr92ge2ac@4ax.com... > A few firsts I've seen that come to mind: > > First Stanger - 3/31/80 > First Saint of Circumstance - 8/31/79 > First West LA Fadeaway - 8/28/82 > First Touch of Grey - 9/15/82 First Throwin' Sones: 9/17/82 in Portland ME > First Watchtower - 6/20/87 > Only Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues - 3/27/86 Somehow managed to miss this one, also in Portland... > > These are off the top of my head. There may be others. ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Howe" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:44:51 -0400 "imsjry" wrote in message news:1129642229.933908.317700@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I didn't know there were any jobs these days where they DIDN'T drug > test. I think it is just a reality. The "go work somewhere else" advice > is just naive. Of course there are employers that don't require drug testing. Mine for example. I'm a software developer. ~jeff > ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Howe" Subject: Re: Maning of Locomotive Breath? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:02:41 -0400 "Gary" wrote in message news:43557adc$0$96610$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... > > Ok, so weird thoughts sometimes enter my mind and then > won't leave until complete. Heard Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath > on the radio the other day. I've never been much of a Tull fan, but > this song, at this time, seemed very, uh, hmmm, real(?) to me. > > Anyone know what that song is about, what it means, or > what it could mean? Never knew what it meant.... ....but it has an all-time top 10 just exackly perfect(tm) guitar solo... here's to you, martin barre, wherever you are... ~jeff ------------------------------ From: thomasasmric@aol.com Subject: Legion of Mary Permavine Date: 18 Oct 2005 20:05:39 -0700 Thanks to Steve and Jason, I just finished burning these shows so it is time to offer them back up. First one to reply to me directly with a promise to continue the vine gets 'em. Legion of Mary (6 shn discs total) 4/6/75 : http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=6372 4/8/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14207 4/9/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14606 4/9/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4485 4/10/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=14209 4/13/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4483 4/18/75: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=4482 ------------------------------ From: "Carl Sparndan" Subject: Re: Vegas '95 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:08:49 GMT just an opinion and no offence. but i always identified with that bumper sticker: "Another Picky Deadhead." ------------------------------ From: "Neil X." Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 20:17:01 -0700 > Ben wrote: > > But without going into excruciating detail the one that drug tests is > SO much better that there's no question in my mind about which to > take. (I did the math in my head on the way home from work today - > 20% salary increase). My current employer is gonna shit when I tell > them. I'm going to have a huge laugh if they try to ask what it would > take to get me to stay. I was regularly urine tested for over 2 years while I did consultant work for biotech companies. Many pharma companies asked for urine tests, it was quite common to show up for the first day at a new gig, work my first day, and at the end of the day be pointed to the Occupational Health Office to give urine. FWIW, there was no personal privacy for any of these tests. I don't know what you have planned for that dried urine of yours, but even a "whizzinator" wouldn't have done me any good at any of the places that tested me. They stood. They watched. I pissed. Very public. I'm now working at a great company that didn't test. My recommendation--don't give into the fascists. In restrospect, it was a mistake for me to consent to this indignity. Never again. Quality of life is as important as a paycheck. Opt to work for the company that doesn't try to own your soul......what looks like a great opportunity today won't necessarily look that way in 6 months. Peace, Neil X. ------------------------------ From: "Neil X." Subject: Re: audio extraction questions Date: 18 Oct 2005 20:29:02 -0700 > Bill wrote: > > If EAC is needed to extract data accurately off a CD, it would seem a > similarly accurate program would be needed to extract data off a data disc > or hard drive. OK, Bill, here's the scoop on audio files versus data files. Your standard data file, whether it be a SHN file of compressed music, a database of the yellowpages, or a large .tiff image/photograph, has a data archetecture that reserves some data blocks for error correction. Audio files, on the other hand, due to their streaming nature, were not designed with any blocks reserved for error correction. Now, data transfer is a very error-prone process. Your hard drives and optical drives constantly make read and write errors. But for regular file types, that isn't a problem, becuase the errors are caught, corrected and annotated in the data blocks reserved for that purpose. Audio files don't have that advantage, so if you want to make a clean, error-free copy of audio files, you have to use special software like EAC. That isn't necessary for data files--the error correction is automaticaly, intrinsically built into them. As an additional fail-safe for data files, some large file types like SHNs and FLACs come with "md5 checksums." The md5 checksum is simply a sum of all the data in the file. When you make a copy of a given file, if an error occurs, the sum of the data in the file will be different, and the copied file will not have the same checksum as the original. So those md5 checksums are essentially a double-redundancy fail-safe. If the md5 sum matches the copied file, you are guaranteed that the copied file is bit-for-bit identical to the original file. So EAC is simply not needed for data files like SHNs....... HTH, Neil X. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Nimrod Q. Puppystuffer" From: "Nimrod Q. Puppystuffer" Subject: Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:17:22 GMT "Dylanstubs" wrote in message news:1129644127.686847.27970@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... 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