From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #604 Dead-Flames Digest #604, Volume #48 Tue, 18 Oct 05 10:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Clapton/Trucks Tour? ("Schmoe") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: First show/last show ("Richard Morris") Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) ("Dylanstubs") Are you working in the same field you majored in college? (ba ba booie) Re: SKB 10/31 Teaneck, NJ (ba ba booie) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Schmoe") Re: More firsts and lasts (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Grateful Dead Sighting (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? (jomcguire1@yahoo.com) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? (brew ziggins) For Camel Toe lovers (JimK) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("pookietooth") Re: For Camel Toe lovers (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Highsteppin IntaTown") Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! (DB) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Effty") Re: SKB 10/31 Teaneck, NJ ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Grapefruit Ed Friday in Berkeley CA (crashedlevee@yahoo.com) Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? ("Bryan") moe. and Govt Mule in SF (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: moe. and Govt Mule in SF (leftie) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: More firsts and lasts (leftie) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: RMGD Word n' Numbers Taboo (leftie) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: First show/last show (DB) Re: Luxury carmakers disparage hybrids (NDC) (DG) Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) (DG) Re: Beer query (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? (DB) Re: Vegas '95 ("Andrew Murawa") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:42:01 -0700 On 18 Oct 2005 13:11:22 GMT, Joe wrote: >Isn't it ironic that booze is toxic, will impair your mental and physical >functions, sometimes leads to violence, and is completely legal, while the >most benign plant on the planet can get you tossed into prison? > >Ain't America great? > Yeah, ain't it? If I were them, I'd be much more concerned about my drinking habits - That certainly has a much bigger effect on my mornings than pot. Ironically, I could end up living where there's a ballot proposition where " the use and possession of less then one ounce of marijuana" would be "non-punishable" "for adults 21 and over". http://www.saferchoice.org/ >Joe ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Clapton/Trucks Tour? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:44:22 -0400 Rumour mill has Derek Trucks likely to tour with Clapton next year in a Derek & The Dominos show. Derek cut 9 tracks with Clapton earlier this year for EC's upcoming album. If this happens and the tour cuts into the normal ABB schedule, does Dickey get invited back? Stay tuned...same bat time...same bat channel... Discuss. ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:48:52 -0700 On 18 Oct 2005 06:30:29 -0700, "imsjry" wrote: > >I didn't know there were any jobs these days where they DIDN'T drug >test. I think it is just a reality. The "go work somewhere else" advice >is just naive. My employer even has a sign saying that they drug-test, so if you use drugs don't bother applying. They probably didn't give me one because they're cheap bastards and express their fascism in other ways. (and I'm not driving forklifts or anything like that). There may be some leeway in the law WRT safety related positions, but they're supposed to make sure the tests do not unfairly target certain workers. Maybe they can get away with only testing union workers or something like that - or it wouldn't really surprise me if they were in violation of some law. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:57:40 -0700 "DB" wrote in message news:dj2tlf$qd6$1@eri0.s8.isp.nyc.eggn.net... snip > All I recall was stumbling on the big coach school bus that my high school > rented to take about 30 of us to and from the show. I sure recall that I > was stunned by what I saw. Ahh, to be 16 again with years of GD shows > ahead of me.... Wow! Your high school did some great field trips! Was this a public or private school? I would be interested to hear more about how this came about. R. ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 07:02:07 -0700 (found on rec.music.dylan) Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices 10/4/2005 4:09:18 AM, by Ryan Paul There are two commodities that the RIAA has in great abundance: cash, and consumer resentment. Since the start of its concerted legal assault on digital media piracy, the RIAA has become a veritable pariah. Aggressive legal action against consumers doesn't exactly engender trust and respect, so it is no surprise that a casualty of the RIAA's war against piracy has decided to pursue retaliation. Tanya Anderson, a 42 year old disabled single mother from Oregon, has filed a countersuit against the RIAA, in which she claims that the organization engaged in numerous crimes, including fraud, deceptive business practices, and racketeering. In addition, she claims that RIAA has been "abusing the federal court judicial system for the purpose of waging a public relations and public threat campaign targeting digital file sharing activities." Anderson, who was accused of downloading gangster rap via the Kazaa file sharing network under the login gotenkito, claims that she has never engaged in piracy. According to Anderson, shortly after she received notice of the suit, she was contacted by the Settlement Support Center, which claimed that a company called MediaSentry illegally infiltrated her computer and found evidence of copyright infringement. Anderson, who has no interest in gangster rap, contested the accusation and even requested that the Settlement Support Center inspect her computer to verify her innocence. Brace yourselves, this is where it really starts to get freaky. In her countersuit, Anderson claims that the Settlement Support Center acknowledged the probability of her innocence, but informed her that should she refuse to settle, the RIAA would proceed with a suit in order to discourage others from attempting to defend themselves against unwarranted litigation. Lets have a look at the countersuit: Despite knowing that infringing activity was not observed, the record companies used the threat of expensive and intrusive litigation as a tool to coerce Ms. Andersen to pay many thousands of dollars for an obligation she did not owe. The record companies pursued their collection activities and this lawsuit for the primary purpose of threatening Ms. Andersen (and many others) as part of its public relations campaign targeting electronic file sharing. The record companies have falsely represented and pleaded that information obtained in this invasive and secret manner is proof of Ms. Andersen's alleged downloading and distribution of copyrighted audio recordings. Ms. Andersen never downloaded music but has been subjected to public derision and embarrassment If what she says is true, it means that the RIAA is using the threat of litigation to extort monolithic amounts of money from innocent consumers. The very prospect sends shivers down my spine, but is it true? Would the RIAA really attempt to defraud a disabled woman out of her meager social security income? If the RIAA does in fact perpetrate extortion on massive scale, it would constitute one of the most horrendous acts of large scale corporate fraud ever recorded and it would utterly annihilate the credibility of the politicians that have expressed support for the RIAA's anti-piracy efforts. Is the RIAA an evil empire driven by inhuman avarice, or is 42 year old Tanya Anderson a gangster rapping pirate in search of an easy way out? Anderson isn't the only one crying foul. Employees of Kim's Video and Music Store in New York claim that they were wrongfully arrested in June on bogus piracy charges when New York Police Department officials and RIAA representatives raided the store. Econoculture, a web site devoted to the defense of modern music culture, has a chilling article containing numerous allegations of egregiously unlawful behavior purportedly perpetrated by the RIAA and law enforcement agents. According to the article, the police officers may have confiscated CD-R discs legally produced and burned by independent artists, simply because the discs did not look like the legitimate, recorded CDs distributed by RIAA member companies: RIAA regional officer Kenneth Rivera, who worked as an undercover agent on the Kim's case, identified the store's mix tapes and CDs as piratical, testifying in an affidavit that they "listed unfamiliar company names, do not display the name of the owner of the copyright, have packaging inferior in quality when compared with legitimate discs," and because "many are recorded on CD-R media. Legitimate recordings released by RIAA member companies do not release their recording on CD-R format." Ironically, Rivera's breathless description of his pirate bounty sounds an awful lot like the run-of-the-mill product that any college band would put out as their own. The investigator obviously hasn't attended a basement show or visited a dance club in the last decade or two. One thing that readers can divine from his statement above is that he knows the CD-R format-the latest accessible recording tool-is allowing bands to bypass the label system altogether. That's a big no-no to RIAA's board of directors. If the article is to be believed, it indicates that, in an attempt to crush their only competitors, the RIAA uses law enforcement agencies to wrongfully arrest individuals that legally distribute content produced by independent musicians! The sheer depravity of it all inspires cynicism. If the RIAA is found guilty of fraud and extortion, I bet that SCO will sue them for infringement of a business methods patent. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051004-5382.html ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:52:44 -0400 Are you working in the same field you majored in college? I'm just wondering how many of the folks on this newsgroup are still working the field that they majored in college. A lot of people shift gears mid-life. Some by choice and some not. Sometimes it could be for the better and sometimes it could be for the worse. Is there a way to ease into shift? I guess if one has many obligations then one has to work like a dog to make ends meet. But sometimes a person might be tired of their career that they majored in and want to working a different field totally. Any folks out there with stories on their career change? booie......... .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Re: SKB 10/31 Teaneck, NJ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:57:13 -0400 SKB 10/31 Teaneck, NJ scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote: booie, you going? bbb wrote: Try and stop me! scarlet begonias wrote: I am up for some sushi, bbb wrote: Me to! scarlet begonias wrote: Shark Attacks and Tuna. bbb wrote: bring it on. scarlet begonias wrote: Call me. Theresa bbb wrote: Will do. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:06:39 -0400 ba ba booie wrote: > Are you working in the same field you majored in college? No, I'm in center field now. I majored in left field. ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: More firsts and lasts Date: 18 Oct 2005 07:11:51 -0700 I saw the first and last time the Dead rented flatbed trucks, blocked off Haight Street without permits and played for free. March 3, 1968. What do I win? Larry ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Grateful Dead Sighting Date: 18 Oct 2005 07:21:44 -0700 There's a Jerry Garcia Street in Mountain View, at Shoreline Ampitheater. ------------------------------ From: jomcguire1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? Date: 18 Oct 2005 07:26:52 -0700 Schmoe wrote: > Rumour mill has Derek Trucks likely to tour with Clapton next year in a > Derek & The Dominos show. Derek cut 9 tracks with Clapton earlier this year > for EC's upcoming album. > > If this happens and the tour cuts into the normal ABB schedule, does Dickey > get invited back? Stay tuned...same bat time...same bat channel... > > Discuss. It will not be a Derek & The Dominos show. Tour, yes. Derek Trucks with Clapton, probably. Derek & The Dominos, No. ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:03:11 -0400 Thus spake ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net... > > Are you working in the same field you majored in college? The field I'm in didn't exist when I was in college. The field I majored in (US Government) does exist, in some deranged and corrupted form, but I only majored in it because it had the fewest required courses. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: For Camel Toe lovers Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:03:50 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net http://tinyurl.com/84saf ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:13:29 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > Are you working in the same field you majored in college? > Not me. Majored in biology. Here's how my career has gone: biology -> chemistry -> chemistry instrumentation -> instrumentation/software tester -> software tester. ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: For Camel Toe lovers Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:16:29 GMT JimK wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/84saf Never let it be said that Sweetbac doesn't have balls, but after all the ruckus here I expected a better set of man boobs. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: "Highsteppin IntaTown" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:16:57 -0700 PE Degree 7 years College/HS Swimming Coach > wife > kids> mortgage 6 Years Advertising Sales > Insanity ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:15:37 -0400 ramzi.budayr@gmail.com wrote: > Hello couples and party planners, > > I represent a truly incredible band called Strawberry Lane from NYC, > composed of a lead singer, 2 guitarists, a bassist, and a drummer. > These guys started playing when they were in the 8th grade and pretty soon, they will be in 9th grade. DB ------------------------------ From: "Effty" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:20:30 -0700 imsjry wrote: > I didn't know there were any jobs these days where they DIDN'T drug > test. I think it is just a reality. The "go work somewhere else" advice > is just naive. Actually, I used to work for a (very large) public library that did not test. Still does not. It's a matter of privacy to them. They will test if you get injured on the job, but otherwise they only care about your work performance. I can't think of any other employers with a similar stance, certainly not around here. ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: SKB 10/31 Teaneck, NJ Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:20:53 -0700 We're good to go. I've got the tickets. Theresa ------------------------------ From: crashedlevee@yahoo.com Subject: Grapefruit Ed Friday in Berkeley CA Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:36:13 -0700 two sides to every story........... Grapefruit Ed plays Dylan, Dead, Garcia and some Neil Young. They are loud and very electric. come if you like and hang with some nice heads. Please join Grapefruit Ed for a full blown electric dance party on Friday, October 21st at Ashkenaz in Berkeley with special guests the flux Door: 8:30 Show: 9:30 tix $10.00 at the door advance tix available@ http://www.ashkenaz.com or call Ashkenaz @ 510-525-5054 this is an ALL AGES show. address: 1317 San Pablo Avenue, Berkeley, CA check out our website: http://www.grapefruited.com p s y c h e d e l i c c i t r u s f o r t h e s o u l ------------------------------ From: "Bryan" Subject: Re: Are you working in the same field you majored in college? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:43:16 GMT Masters Degree in Social Work....Managing a Music Store. ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: moe. and Govt Mule in SF Date: 18 Oct 2005 08:58:12 -0700 Anyone else going to the Warfield this weekend? I'll be there both nights. I admit to being a moe.ron. First saw them at Shoreline, opening the 1997 Furthur Festival. Then caught them at the Fillmore that September. Never seen a moe. show I didn't have fun at. Hopefully Mule is the opening band both nights, but somehow I doubt that's gonna happen. Larry ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 09:01:02 -0700 Just where the hell do I get one of these drug testing jobs, anyway?!!? I'm ready! Larry ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: moe. and Govt Mule in SF Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:09:47 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Anyone else going to the Warfield this weekend? I'll be there both > nights. > I admit to being a moe.ron. First saw them at Shoreline, opening the > 1997 Furthur Festival. Then caught them at the Fillmore that September. > Never seen a moe. show I didn't have fun at. Hopefully Mule is the > opening band both nights, but somehow I doubt that's gonna happen. Saturday only for me. I hope moe. opens that night. While I dig moe. a lot, the Mule is the shit. "Hey 'nother Saturday night Hey 'nother Saturday night Everybody gettin' right One more Saturday One more Saturday One more Saturday night!" ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 09:11:03 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Just where the hell do I get one of these drug testing jobs, anyway?!!? > I'm ready! > > Larry I think sometimes they actually want to watch you pee. That would be a lousy job unless you were gay. .. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: More firsts and lasts Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:12:49 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > I saw the first and last time the Dead rented flatbed trucks, blocked > off Haight Street without permits and played for free. > March 3, 1968. > What do I win? A Hep C test. You people were crazy! ;-) (Actually that was one of my favoritist tapes -- and I loved the very idea of it -- back in the day. Tell us some stories about it!) ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 09:12:55 -0700 Librarian is a cool job. .. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: RMGD Word n' Numbers Taboo Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:32 -0700 Joe wrote: > pbleers@hotmail.com wrote: > >>G-13 > > That, I'll have you know, is Geraldine's mother. Or, depending on how you > look at it, her father. Or, so they say... I thought Geraldine was one of the Cali chicks with two mothers... "It's a nice day for a white widow..." ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: 18 Oct 2005 09:17:36 -0700 A scandal is a better description. The government is scared to admit that it is arresting three quarters of a million people every year for something that literally cannot kill you and has shown huge health benefits. What would the government say? "Never mind the many millions of people we arrested and the millions of man years spent in jail for no other reason than we are stupid"? .. ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:29:01 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > "DB" wrote in message > news:dj2tlf$qd6$1@eri0.s8.isp.nyc.eggn.net... > > snip > > >>All I recall was stumbling on the big coach school bus that my high school >>rented to take about 30 of us to and from the show. I sure recall that I >>was stunned by what I saw. Ahh, to be 16 again with years of GD shows >>ahead of me.... > > > Wow! Your high school did some great field trips! Was this a public or > private school? I would be interested to hear more about how this came > about. > > R. > > 5/7/77 -- I was in 10th grade at a boarding school in Newport R.I. As of that time, the only bands I had seen in concert were Aerosmith, Crosby & Nash, and the New Riders of the Purple Sage. So after a shaky concert going start, I began heading in the right musical direction. The head of our Entertainment Committee at our school was a Deadhead. He was also my senior mentor/big brother. He and the Entertainment Committee arranged the whole trip, including buying a block of tickets and renting a coach bus for about 30 or 40 of us to go from Newport to Boston and back again. He also made sure that me and my friends got tickets. Two teachers came as chaperons, but they promptly went to a nearby bar to see the Bruins game as soon as we got to Boston, and, as far as I know, they never set foot inside the Garden that night. I have no idea where our real seats were. I just recall sitting up high in the back of Boston Garden with a couple of my best friends taking in the entire scene. Through the haze of the Garden, I remember Jerry standing out like some sort of black beacon, with his dark hair, beard, black t-shirt and pants, while the two drummers blazed away behind him. Oddly, I don't recall much of Bobby or Phil, not to mention Keith, but I do remember thinking how strange it was that Donna kept going off stage when she wasn't singing and then running back to the misc just in time to sing her verse. The set list was pretty meaningless to us at the time since we didn't have any tapes and did not even know some of the songs. I do remember thinking after the show ended that this was the best concert I had ever seen, but given my limited concert going experience at the time, I didn't really know how good the show was until I got some good audience tapes in about 1980. I did know that I wanted to see these guys play again, but unfortunately I did not get to my next show until Providence 1/18/79. In all, the whole scene at the show was just too much and we had the time of our lives. We were all familiar with the Dead's albums, but none of us had any clue as to what were stepping into. It was a life altering experience for all of us, and I still keep in touch with the two guys that I sat with at that show to this day. So for me, the bus really did come by and I got on, that's where it all began.... Sorry, that there are no showerheads or sushi in this story, but sometimes life is like that. DB ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: Luxury carmakers disparage hybrids (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:34:45 -0700 "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote: > >JAPAN-GERMANY-US-AUTO > > Luxury car makers say hybrids overrated > > by Hiroshi Hiyama Flex cars are where it's at. They can use both ethanol and gasoline in any mixture. They are the same price as normal cars. Why hasn't the US been on this years ago? ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:40:27 -0700 Dylanstubs wrote: > >(found on rec.music.dylan) > > >Woman countersues RIAA for fraud and deceptive business practices >10/4/2005 4:09:18 AM, by Ryan Paul F the RIAA. Don't buy new releases. Buy used. ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Beer query Date: 18 Oct 2005 09:50:12 -0700 That's mildly annoying... ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Clapton/Trucks Tour? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:52:53 -0400 jomcguire1@yahoo.com wrote: > Schmoe wrote: > >>Rumour mill has Derek Trucks likely to tour with Clapton next year in a >>Derek & The Dominos show. Derek cut 9 tracks with Clapton earlier this year >>for EC's upcoming album. >> >>If this happens and the tour cuts into the normal ABB schedule, does Dickey >>get invited back? Stay tuned...same bat time...same bat channel... >> >>Discuss. > > > > It will not be a Derek & The Dominos show. Tour, yes. Derek Trucks > with Clapton, probably. Derek & The Dominos, No. > Yeah, Derek should dump that old has-been Clapton and get a real guitarist to play with him. Seriously, will this be another Clapton effort to cash in on his past glory by charging $300+ per ticket to play his golden oldies? I am really disgusted with this Cream business at $375 a ticket for the MSG shows and would be surprised and disheartened to see one my current guitar heroes Derek Trucks succumb to corporate rock. Don't do it Derek! Keep your day job with the DTB and ABB. DB ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: Vegas '95 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:55:48 -0700 "Jeff" wrote in message news:dj1rsa$lnm7@xco-news.xilinx.com... > > Ok, I'll admit to this being a wild trip for us from the mountains of > Colorado. Raoul Duke himself would have been proud. I've never heard > the recordings, and thinking back all I could remember was an Here > Comes Sunshine, a Jack Straw, and of course, the Unbroken Chain. > > But I recall walking away saying I was done. I'd gotten my Unbroken > Chain, and only St. Stephen->Eleven was going to get me back to a > show. > > So I went back to look at the setlists finally...wow...were they > really the dogs the setlists look like? > > first two nights got 6 song first sets. Perfectly placed Way to go > Home, Cheesy Answers, Samba, Last Time and Corrina to crush any > momentum. No wonder I've forgotten these shows. > > I mean...China->Rider, Samba? Wow. You'd think the trauma of that > would have stuck with me. > > Now, having slammed them based on hazy memory and setlist > overanalysis, are they worth listening to? They were, all in all, pretty damn bad shows... Are they worth listening to though? Sure, why not. If only to confirm that they were indeed pretty bad shows... There were a couple relative highlights here and there... I thought the Sunday show was "best".... Post-drums is pretty cool I think... http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=13964 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .