From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #602 Dead-Flames Digest #602, Volume #48 Tue, 18 Oct 05 03:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: First show/last show (JimK) Re: Bottle Brush must go... (JimK) Re: why baseball sucks? ("k sturm") Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women (Kelly Humphries) Re: Conservative slams Bush: Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature (NDC) (Seth Jackson) Re: Tahoe reccomendations? (mdshuster@gmail.com) More firsts and lasts (pantagruel) Re: First show/last show (pantagruel) Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . ("DGDevin") Re: First show/last show (Paulbill) Re: Bottle Brush must go... ("band beyond description") drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: Tedeschi ("Junter522") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("Junter522") Hey Neil X (Hendrix/BB King content) (Steve Lenier) Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: interesting article on guy who started Bit Torrent ("band beyond description") Luxury carmakers disparage hybrids (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: fast food soup (nDc) ("band beyond description") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JimK Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:07:15 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:48:19 -0600, Jeff wrote: >Wayne wrote: >> San Diego Sports Areana, San Diego, CA (Sunday, 12/12/93) >> >> Cold Rain and Snow >> New Minglewood Blues >> Friend Of The Devil >> Black Throated Wind >> Althea >> BIODTL >> Bird Song -> >> Promised Land >> >> Shakedown Street >> Samson and Delilah >> Ship Of Fools >> Truckin' -> >> Nobody's Fault But Mine -> >> That Would Be Something -> >> Drums -> >> Space -> >> The Wheel -> >> Watchtower -> >> Stella Blue -> >> Around and Around >> >> I Fought The Law > >I haven't heard this one....But what an amazing way to completely destroy an awesome set >list. Round & Round would have been a total letdown for me, and then to set through that >just to get to a Law? > >But the rest looks nice for a last show. Better then the setlists from my last run, Vegas >'95... Believe it or not (to quote Hunter), '93 actually saw some pretty good renditions of R&R where Bobby really stretched it out a bit, kind of jazzy and mellow in spots. I remember the one from Albany being particularly nice. IFTL was always good for a quick getaway to beat the traffic. JimK ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Bottle Brush must go... Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:10:56 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:51:18 -0700, DG wrote: >The bottle brush is being chopped down because the flowers clog the >neighbor's pool filter. The roses will be trained to fill in the >space. > >The Eureka lemon is fruiting heavily with 30+ lemons. The Improved >Meyer has 10+ lemons. Of the 25 Italian torpedo onions I've planted, >20 are still strong and doing fine. > >The fig tree trimming has gone well. > >The apple trees need to be pruned next. Umm, alt.gardening is just down the hall, second door on the left. They left the light on for ya. JimK ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: why baseball sucks? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:23:25 GMT "william weaver" wrote in message news:6085-43547C56-1@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... >i love baseball , used to go to angels games with my > girlfriend at the time , i used to kiss her between the strikes > and she would kiss me between the balls . > forgive me its an old one > I think there's video of her in another thread... ------------------------------ From: Kelly Humphries Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:35:35 -0700 Also sprach scarletbgonias: > Uh Kelly, no husband.... I know someone who will be breaking a sales record at work a couple Saturdays from now if she keeps going on like this.... ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Conservative slams Bush: Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature (NDC) Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:45:18 GMT Why does he hate America so much? On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:48:49 +0900, "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote: >http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?eo20051018db.htm > >Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature > >By DOUG BANDOW > > WASHINGTON -- For most men who hold the office of America's president, >government is serious business. For George W. Bush it apparently is a hobby. >That's the only explanation for his "trust me" nomination of Harriet Miers >to the U.S. Supreme Court. >Miers appears to be a good attorney and competent presidential counsel. But >nothing in her career suggests that she is among those most qualified to >serve on America's highest court. > >Indeed, there's no evidence that she has done anything to prepare herself >for such a role. Has she ever thought about constitutional jurisprudence? >Seriously considered controversial political issues? Studied the historical >and philosophical context of American government? > >She might be a quick learner, but beginning her sixth decade is rather late >to prepare for such a dramatic career change. And there's nothing about her, >other than the personal confidence of the president, that speaks for her >nomination. > >Ask 10, 100, or 1,000 legal scholars to name the top prospects for the high >court, and her name would not appear. Bush might have suppressed his >telltale smirk when claiming that she was "the best person I could find," >but none of his listeners could avoid smirking. > >The appointment is simple cronyism. > >Of course, not all cronyism is created equal. Personal rapport matters for >an official likely to work closely with the president, such as the White >House Counsel. And Miers at least possesses a basic competence, in contrast >to, for instance, one-time presidential favorite Michael Brown at the >Federal Emergency Management Agency. > >But a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court is different. Friendship >with the chief executive should not be considered a qualification to sit on >the nation's highest judicial tribunal. Indeed, it is cause for concern when >a putative Supreme Court Justice reportedly has described the president >whose conduct she would judge as the most "brilliant" man she has ever met. > >At issue is less corruption and more frivolity. Bush simply doesn't take >government seriously. Which is why Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) >is so wrong to say that conservatives "ought to take him at his word" in >vouching for Miers' qualifications. > >Bush's judgment cannot be trusted. > >Consider his response to Hurricane Katrina. Positions were filled by friends >and loyalists -- "Brownie" in the case of FEMA, despite its particularly >important role in the post-9/11 world. > >Nor was performance measured. Just showing up for work meant that Brownie >was "doing a heck of a job," as the president put it. Until the political >explosion that occurred in Katrina's aftermath, no one had been held >accountable for anything in this administration. > >Iraq is an even more spectacular example. > >Decide on a policy of war, while discouraging anyone offering evidence >contradicting the existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Fail to >plan for the most obvious contingencies, such as an insurgency. > >Ignore the most basic details, such as outfitting troops with body armor and >armored vehicles. Refuse to acknowledge mistakes and promote the people who >committed the most blunders. > >Finally, when challenged, dig in and play the old tape with the old >rhetoric. It's almost as if the president believes that taking the U.S. into >war, the most serious decision any chief executive can make, is akin to a >big video game. > >Similarly warped has been administration budget policy. Bush pushes tax >relief for Americans while engaging in an orgy of spending that makes him >the Republican Lyndon Johnson. He calls for spending restraint while >refusing to veto a single bill. > >With the new Medicare drug benefit for retirees he helped implement the >greatest expansion of the welfare state in 40 years, but took no interest in >the measure's specifics, including its cost. He apparently saw no >contradiction between talking conservative and promising benefits worth >trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities. > >Bush is not a bad person. But he's a bad decision-maker: Intellectually >uncurious and seriously unread. > >Emotionally he remains a cocky collegiate jock, sure of his own decisions >and quick to consider opposition the equivalent of disloyalty. Finally, he >is unwilling to reflect on past decisions, acknowledge mistakes, or hold >people accountable. > >The subject is irrelevant. He doesn't have good information, choose good >people, recognize why he might be making a bad decision, and reconsider >obvious mistakes in the light of experience. > >Which is why a presidential "trust me" cannot justify elevating Harriet >Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court. Bush has repeatedly proved that his >judgment is suspect. It's up to the U.S. Senate to insist that he treat >seriously a presidential decision as important as this one. > >Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. A former special >assistant to President Ronald Reagan, he is a graduate of Stanford >University Law School. > >The Japan Times: Oct. 18, 2005 > ------------------------------ From: mdshuster@gmail.com Subject: Re: Tahoe reccomendations? Date: 17 Oct 2005 23:26:09 -0700 If you head past stateline on 50 and hang a left at Kingsbury grade, you will find a place called Mott Canyon on your right not too far up the hill. They have Steelhead extra pale on tap - sooo much better than sierra nevada - and good chili. It gets pretty loud there sometimes, particularly if NFL things are going on, but it is a terrific place. There is a bar across the street and a little further up the hill that has an excellent selection on the jukebox (including terrapin station). I don't remember the name of the place, but there aren't a whole lot of bar/grill type places up there. They have a couple of pool tables and great food specials. Although I did get a twist tie in on top of my mushroom burger there once. Good fries. Michael Shuster ------------------------------ From: pantagruel Subject: More firsts and lasts Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:46:41 GMT On the subject of firsts and lasts: In my distinguished career as a Deadhead, I saw the first Day Job -- August 28, 1982 at Veneta, Oregon and the last Day Job -- Hartford Civic Center, April 4, 1986 Can anybody top that for historical significance! ------------------------------ From: pantagruel Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:53:34 GMT Bob Ashton wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:21:25 -0500, "Steve Terry" > wrote: > > >>What was your first and last show? > > > 4/26/72 Frankfurt > > 7/8/95 Chicago > > Wow. ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:00:33 GMT wrote in message news:1129564653.261090.300720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Joe wrote: > >> Cheney will do anything for money. You would too, if you had a >> lesbian wife. > > You lost me. Huh? I think we need Lou Diamond Philips perspective > here. > > Kurt The more-evolved-one spends a lot of time worrying about other people's sexual orientation, you would too if you had trouble figuring out why you can't seem to hang onto a woman for long anymore.... ------------------------------ From: Paulbill Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:15:47 GMT 6/9/84 Cal Expo 7/9/95 Soldier Field ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Bottle Brush must go... Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:10:52 +0900 > The Eureka lemon is fruiting heavily with 30+ lemons. The Improved > Meyer has 10+ lemons. IAAHSWPII? -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:29:38 -0700 just wondering others experiences. I just interviewed for a job today that has a drug test. I might even be able to pass at this point, but am still planning on using some product that I bought - dehydrated piss that's guaranteed clean. How does this usually work with big companies? Since they flew me up to their HQ for the interview, I was prepared to use the dehydrated solution, but they didn't mention it and so I'm left pondering the possibilities: 1: They tell me to go to a testing facility where I live when they make an offer and tell me it's contingent on that 2: They test me when I report to work - sounds crazy, but this is how another company I went to work for did it - I passed that one - was clean for a good 6 weeks and drank some tea just for good measure. That was a much smaller company - this one's BIG. 3: It's a bluff to weed out applicants - probably a pipe dream on my part There was a part on the application saying I agreed to submit to piss or blood tests whenever they requested it, but the job description didn't say anything about random tests - I imagine it's just a pre-employment and a for-cause thing. I wouldn't be doing anything like driving a forklift although some positions in the company do that sort of thing. I figure a blood test is only if they suspect you're drunk or under the influence at the time - can that even detect drug use beyond that? I know piss tests for pot can detect up to a month and maybe more. That's what really bothers me. I've been clean for a month except for few resin hits a couple weeks ago which really didn't do much anyway. I don't have an offer yet, but it seems weird that they would spend somewhere between $500-$1000 to interview me in person but not include the drug test then. A drug test surely wouldn't cost more than $50-100, would it? So why wait until they extend an offer or until I show up for my first day of work to actually require a piss test? ------------------------------ From: "Junter522" Subject: Re: Tedeschi Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:17:43 GMT "Schmoe" wrote in message news:oAW4f.12794$vV4.11888@fe08.lga... > Any catching Susan Tedeschi at Irving Plaza, NYC this Friday? First round's > on me. She just release a new disk last week called Hope & Desire (Hope=her > kids, Desire=Derek Trucks). Superb release filled with great R&B with hints > of gospel. Since I live 3 doors down I will probably be there if I don't see Yonder instead. Peace Gary > > ------------------------------ From: "Junter522" Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:23:44 GMT "Ben" wrote in message news:s189l1h9kbhvu8hb8nhj9mq3r8ci8q9dba@4ax.com... > just wondering others experiences. > >>>Nonsense snipped out >>>> So why wait until they extend an offer or until I show up for my first > day of work to actually require a piss test? Sounds like a no win sit. as down the road they'll probably pull a random piss test on ya.Reminds me of parole.Good luck.Well if you come back positive you won't get ent back to prison at least.Fuck piss tests. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:11:39 -0700 Subject: Hey Neil X (Hendrix/BB King content) From: Steve Lenier Neil, I think I found info about that CD you sent me awhile back...I think it's misdated, and that it's actually this bootleg: http://tinyurl.com/9quvy tracks 1 and 4 line up, and the harmonica is certainly Butterfield Blues-like check it out and let me know if you agree! Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:32:29 +0900 > I don't have an offer yet, but it seems weird that they would spend > somewhere between $500-$1000 to interview me in person but not include > the drug test then. Nice to be considered for a job, but (especially as this issue is of concern to you) they're fascist motherfuckers. HTH. -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: interesting article on guy who started Bit Torrent Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:26 +0900 "Bill" wrote in message news:n3%4f.4579$Zv5.1751@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,1117681,00.html?p > romoid=yahoo > > You're right, this is an interesting article. Thanks for posting the link! -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Luxury carmakers disparage hybrids (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:33:58 +0900 JAPAN-GERMANY-US-AUTO Luxury car makers say hybrids overrated by Hiroshi Hiyama (PICTURE) TOKYO, Oct 18 (AFP-Jiji) - Soaring gasoline prices won't kill the gas-guzzling sport utility vehicle, while fuel-efficient hybrids are an overrated niche technology that will capture only a small share of the global auto market. These are the views perhaps unsurprisingly of executives of two of the world's leading luxury car makers, DaimlerChrysler and BMW. The future boss of DaimlerChrysler, Dieter Zetsche, who now heads the group's Mercedes brand, told an auto conference here he was confident that SUVs would remain popular despite rising fuel prices. ``I do not think there is a proof so far that there will be a structural change that diminishes SUV sales,'' he said. ``As far as DaimlerChrysler is concerned, yes, SUVs are an important pillar for our profitability, as are pickups. Of course, because of their shapes and weight, they have relatively higher fuel consumption.'' Japanese firms may be struggling to keep pace with demand for their fuel-efficient hybrids, but BMW chairman Helmut Panke said they would not account for more than five percent of global demand in the foreseeable future. ``Hybrid technology in the end despite the big debate right now will just be a niche technology,'' he told reporters here ahead of the Tokyo Motor Show which gets underway on Wednesday. He said hybrids may have advantages in big cities. ``But the farmer in Montana or in Wyoming, why should he pay basically the cost of such a system and not get any advantage? ``Premium brand buyers, who buy BMW, want to experience special vehicles. The same 500 dollars per year (in extra fuel cost) does not make any difference. You know they want that car.'' Zetsche, who is due to take the helm of the entire group from 2006, also played down prospects for hybrid technology. He said hybrid models showed their benefits only in ``stop-and-go traffic,'' not when vehicles were cruising at constant speed. ``There is no doubt that hybrids can contribute to saving fuel under certain circumstances,'' he said. ``Hybrids got tremendous momentum in the media... which goes beyond the factual benefits,'' he said, adding that hybrid models' environmentally friendly images are fueling their popularity. He added combustion engines have become so fuel efficient that ``the bar is raised so high'' for hybrid models to be truly efficient as they carry heavy hybrid systems, which can force them to consume more fuel, he said. Ultimately, a combination of hybrid technology and diesel fuel should lead to creation of more environmentally friendly engines, he said. ``Still, there is no doubt, whether it happens in 20 years or 120 years, the availability of fuel will come to an end. Therefore, we have to find either combustion engine that drives on an alternative fuel or other engines that drive on fuel-cell or other fuels,'' he said. hih-roc/dr/lh Japan-Germany-US-auto-company-BMW-DaimlerChrysler AFP 180921 GMT OCT 05 ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: fast food soup (nDc) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:39:55 +0900 "Steve Lenier" wrote in message news:BF78745B.32C15%slenier@comcast.net... > Who doesn't want soup once in awhile? In Tokyo, we've got Soup Stock Tokyo... http://www.soup-stock-tokyo.com/1.0philosophy.html (need to enable Japanese fonts) ....though it's of the rare, healthy, semi-fast-food variety, unfortunately it's a bit expensive for what you get (not much in the way of serving size). But I agree, you should try to eat well if you're away from home; not always easy, though... -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .