From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #601 Dead-Flames Digest #601, Volume #48 Mon, 17 Oct 05 22:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Real Talent (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: 35 Years ago today... (bigchuck51@aol.com) Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 (Seth Jackson) Re: First show/last show (Wayne) Re: Sox memories: remember Harry Caray quaffing Falstaff beer to excess on-air? (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: Visiting San Francisco ("band beyond description") Re: First show/last show (Paul) 9/21/72 My mind has left my body ... ("Richard Morris") Re: 10-31-91 (Gary & Ellie) your wedding or party! (ramzi.budayr@gmail.com) Re: Visiting San Francisco (Joe) Re: First show/last show (Jeff) Re: Grateful Dead Sighting (drumsandwires@yahoo.com) Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. (Joe) Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! ("Richard Morris") Re: First show/last show (Seth Jackson) Vegas '95 (Jeff) interesting article on guy who started Bit Torrent ("Bill") Re: First show/last show (Bob Ashton) Re: why baseball sucks? (william weaver) Conservative slams Bush: Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature (NDC) ("band beyond description") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:36:10 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: 10-31-91 Chairman of the Bored wrote: > http://tmnsp.net/details.php?id=934 > > This new aud/sbd mix of Set 2 is just beautiful. If you like this show, you > will dig this... > > > Is this a newer matrix? The one I heard is a mess. http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=30699#comments ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: fast food soup (nDc) Date: 17 Oct 2005 19:40:58 -0700 Okay, this whole thing has made me remember the very old SNL skit "Trough & Brew". It was a parody of trendy Manhattan restaurants. Customers ate slop out of big, common troughs along the wall. Above the troughs were beer spigots, so that the diner only had to turn his/her head up and open the tap! It was hillarious with all these yuppies business people on their knees scarfing down the trendy slop and chatting each other up. Every so often the "waiters" would come out and hose the whole place down. Funny shit. Larry ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: more on the sox-cubs thing (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:39:22 +0900 bc-chicago-mood (ATTN: National editors) //A Tale of Two Teams, One City// (Chicago) By P.J. Huffstutter (c) 2005, Los Angeles Times CHICAGO Just east of Wrigley Field, in the heart of the Cubs nation, a Chicago White Sox banner hangs over the banister of an apartment porch. It's an unthinkable sight. After decades of suffering in a town where their team was butt of jokes, routinely overshadowed by the ever-beloved Chicago Cubs, Sox fans now find themselves in the position of being envied. ``I have people saying to me: `You know, I've always thought the Sox were a scrappy team. Think they can win the World Series for Chicago?' '' said William ``Butch'' Nelson, 63, a resident of the South Side neighborhood of Bridgeport who as a teenager worked as a Sox usher at Comiskey Park. ``It makes me crazy, these Johnny-Come-Latelys,'' Nelson said. ``Where have they been ... all these years? They don't deserve to enjoy our win.'' In the Windy City, the baseball team you cheer for says much about your economic status and neighborhood loyalties. And there has been little love lost between fans north and south of Madison Street, the road that physically and philosophically divides this town. On Monday, none of the bars across from Wrigley Field posted signs congratulating the Sox, who are going to the World Series for the first time since 1959. Not that the pubs to the south were much friendlier two years ago. When the Cubs faced the Florida Marlins in the 2003 National League championship series, one South Side bar put up a banner that read, ``Go Marlins!'' ``The Sox are from the south, where the factories were built and the factory workers lived. The Cubs are from the north, where the factory owners lived in the nicer neighborhoods,'' said Richard Lindberg, author and Sox historian. ``Even though the city has gone through enormous gentrification, and the ethnic lines have moved, people here still see things the same way. ''Can we all get along?`` Lindberg asked. ''I doubt it.`` Suffering has become a way of life for many Sox fans, as has a bitterness that is oddly comforting. For more than a century, the Schaller family has nursed broken spirits and baseball dreams at their pub in Bridgeport, about a mile west of where Comiskey once stood. Owner Jack Schaller still gets teary-eyed when he recalls the last time the Sox broke his heart. It was 1959. The team was facing the Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series. Behind the dark wooden bar at Schaller's Pump, Jack and his patrons listened to a radio broadcast ''It was grim in here when they lost,`` said Schaller, 81. ''To be a Sox fan, you have to be very thick-skinned, and you have to be tough enough to be called a second-class baseball fan.`` But cheering the Sox is a family tradition. Jack's grandfather and father were fans. Seven of his children and all of his grandchildren are fans. Then, there's his youngest child, Jay. ''His mother dropped him on his head, I'm sure of it. It's the only way to explain why he likes the Cubs,`` Schaller said with a grimace. Jay, 42, sighed and rolled his eyes as he wiped down the bar. ''You would not believe how much grief I'm getting these days,`` Jay said. ''I'm just waiting for next season to hurry up and get here.`` To a certain degree, bemoan fans, the Sox have been the cause of their own pain. There was, of course, the 1919 Black Sox scandal. In the years that followed, interest in the team dwindled. At the same time, the Cubs began winning pennants and attracting new fans. After winning the American League pennant in '59, Chicago's fire commissioner sounded the city's air raid sirens in celebration. Unfortunately, ''the Cold War was on, and when people heard the sirens, they thought the Russians were invading,`` said Studs Terkel, the eminent author and oral historian. ''People hid under their beds, waiting for the attack.`` In 1976, the team's warm-weather uniform included shorts and players were reluctant to slide out of concern they might injure themselves. Then there was the infamous Disco Demolition riot in 1979, where more than 5,000 fans who'd brought disco records to toss into a bonfire rushed the field. ''We all want to forget the past,`` said David Strouse, 47, who married his wife, Laurie, at home plate at U.S. Cellular Field last month. ''Even my friends who are Cubs fans say they just want Chicago to win a World Series.`` Of course, Strouse noted, if that happens, Chicago will have a South Side team to thank for ending the city's 88-year championship drought. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: 1972 offer ... No blanks, no postage ... Offer Closed Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:50:06 -0700 We have a winner ... Mr. Steve Terry has a mighty fast draw, and I will be sending the DVDs to him this week. For those of you who emailed me, I will send your emails over to him so that he is aware of your interest. Richard "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:XvWdnUaNA--S28neRVn-3g@comcast.com... > Trick or Treat! > > **This offer requires that you have the ability to read DVD-R (that's DVD > minus R!) discs, and that you have the ability to decode .shn files and > convert them to .wav files. If ya don't, then please pass this one up.** > > I am offering 1972. Yep, the whole year. At least, the whole year's > worth of SBDs ... and a few audience-recorded shows as well. This is > somewhere around 85 shows, burned onto 20 DVDs. Several hundred CDs worth > of great music burned as data files onto 20 DVDs. > > The story is, Ted did a wonderful 1972 offer recently which consisted of > four DVDs. In addition, I got a download of a show from 1972 that is no > longer on the archive (thankewe Mr. Lucas), as well as 9/21/72 from Steve > Terry and three shows no longer on the archive from Tim Ratdog. (Thanks > very much, guys) So, it seemed like a good idea to download the rest of > the 1972 soundboards from the archive and burn them to disc. And when I > did that, I made an extra set. One for me, one for you. > > If you want to see what is included, just hop onto the archive, and check > the sbds. In addition, the following shows that are no longer on the > archive are included: 4/8/72, 4/14/72, 4/26/72, 5/3/72, 5/4/72 5/10/72, > 9/21/72. > > Caveat: I put these on HP DVDs ... they were on sale, and it is what I > could afford right now. So this will probably work best if you get the > DVDs, copy what you want of them onto whatever DVD you think is most > archival, and pass them along to someone else who can do the same until > they wear out :) > > Ideally, the first person to get these should be someone who can't > download from the archive, but who can work with DVDs and compressed files > ... and someone who is anal enough to want to duplicate the year and pass > it along to the next retentive type. A permavine, if you will. > > So, edit my email address and respond. Please let me know your download > capability. And, if you get the discs, plan on also getting a list of > folks who emailed and didn't get chosen, but would also like a shot at > them. Hopefully that will keep them moving around for the next year or so. > > Richard > > -- > Drop "trousers" to respond via email. > ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: 1972 offer ... No blanks, no postage ... Trick or Treat! Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:41:02 +0900 very cool idea! hope it works! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Bottle Brush must go... Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:51:18 -0700 The bottle brush is being chopped down because the flowers clog the neighbor's pool filter. The roses will be trained to fill in the space. The Eureka lemon is fruiting heavily with 30+ lemons. The Improved Meyer has 10+ lemons. Of the 25 Italian torpedo onions I've planted, 20 are still strong and doing fine. The fig tree trimming has gone well. The apple trees need to be pruned next. ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: Real Talent Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:24 -0700 The Lord of Eltingville wrote: > >seraphim wrote: >> >> http://www.funnyinside.com/DeepThroat.shtml >> >> very rarely do I post this kinda crap but well....sorry for those who get >> offended but the pride this girl shows......jesh not just a dumb blonde huh? >> >> that's called sarcasm if you didn't know..... > >I don't care what you call it. I love her. Hopefully, she's my future ex-wife... ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: 1972 offer ... No blanks, no postage ... Trick or Treat! Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:00:16 -0700 "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message news:3rj689FjqcnuU1@individual.net... > very cool idea! hope it works! > -- > Peace, > Steve Yeah, it is kind of like getting a gift with a curse attached ... you love what you have, but if you take to heart the mission of passing it along, you commit to a fair bit of time and attention. Actually, not so bad ... 20 discs will burn in about 10 hours. A mere pittance when you consider, for example, Neil's offer last year of all the New Year's shows. Thank god for cable broadband ... I was able to pull most these shows in at about a half-hour to 40 mins each! And thanks again to Ted, Tim Ratdog, Steve Terry and Steve Lucas for helping to get the good stuff in this offer. R. ------------------------------ From: ramzi.budayr@gmail.com Subject: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! Date: 17 Oct 2005 20:03:55 -0700 Hello couples and party planners, I represent a truly incredible band called Strawberry Lane from NYC, composed of a lead singer, 2 guitarists, a bassist, and a drummer. These guys started playing when they were in the 8th grade and they've been together ever since, playing at major auditoriums at NYC schools, and headlining fundraisers for the Tsunami, for AIDS. In addition, they are scheduled to perform a concert to raise funds for the victims of Hurricane Katrina in January. They do everything from current hits to the classics to jazz to hip-hop and have written about 5 original songs. They started recording their demo at a major recording studio in New York City last year and are putting the finishing touches before they send their music out to the major record labels. These guys are going to hit it big, and I guarantee they will make your wedding one of the most memorable events in your life. You can hear some of their jams at strawberrylane.4t.com. Contact me at Ramzi.Budayr@gmail.com or call my office at 201-543-9646. Hope to contact you soon! Ramzi A. Budayr ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco Date: 18 Oct 2005 03:33:41 GMT Any plans for an RMGD meet up on Sunday's Chet Fest ------------------------------ From: Jeff Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:48:19 -0600 Wayne wrote: > San Diego Sports Areana, San Diego, CA (Sunday, 12/12/93) > > Cold Rain and Snow > New Minglewood Blues > Friend Of The Devil > Black Throated Wind > Althea > BIODTL > Bird Song -> > Promised Land > > Shakedown Street > Samson and Delilah > Ship Of Fools > Truckin' -> > Nobody's Fault But Mine -> > That Would Be Something -> > Drums -> > Space -> > The Wheel -> > Watchtower -> > Stella Blue -> > Around and Around > > I Fought The Law I haven't heard this one....But what an amazing way to completely destroy an awesome set list. Round & Round would have been a total letdown for me, and then to set through that just to get to a Law? But the rest looks nice for a last show. Better then the setlists from my last run, Vegas '95... ------------------------------ From: drumsandwires@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Grateful Dead Sighting Date: 17 Oct 2005 20:59:33 -0700 On the road to Olympic National Park, here in beautiful Washington State, there is an "adopt a highway" that is dedicated to the memory of Jerry Garcia. It always puts a smile on my face when I drive back from a hike in the mountains. Steve M. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. Date: 18 Oct 2005 04:06:32 GMT Do a google search on "ice hash." Those dumb fucks in the US Government declared war on marijuana, so all the botanists and chemists decided to beat the US government in their stupid war. So, now we got 19% THC weed and ice hash. Fuck the government. Smoke dope. Geraldine ice hash does the job, in case you were wondering. FYI, 10% of all the THC on a plant lives in the stems. Ice will extract that. Or. so I've heard. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Amazing Band for your wedding or party! Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:07:16 -0700 wrote in message news:1129604635.836859.6370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Hello couples and party planners, > > I represent a truly incredible band called Strawberry Lane from NYC, > composed of a lead singer, 2 guitarists, a bassist, and a drummer. > These guys started playing when they were in the 8th grade and they've > been together ever since, playing at major auditoriums at NYC schools, > and headlining fundraisers for the Tsunami, for AIDS. In addition, they > are scheduled to perform a concert to raise funds for the victims of > Hurricane Katrina in January. They do everything from current hits to > the classics to jazz to hip-hop and have written about 5 original > songs. They started recording their demo at a major recording studio in > New York City last year and are putting the finishing touches before > they send their music out to the major record labels. These guys are > going to hit it big, and I guarantee they will make your wedding one of > the most memorable events in your life. You can hear some of their jams > at strawberrylane.4t.com. Contact me at Ramzi.Budayr@gmail.com or call > my office at 201-543-9646. Ah, the voice of optimism. And versatile, too! Classics to jazz to hippity hop. R. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: First show/last show Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:08:37 GMT On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:22:31 -0600, Edwin Hurwitz wrote: >PS I was also at 5/7/77. The Gahden sold me a seat in the second balcony >that had a notch cut out for it to accommodate the huge concrete pillar >that supported the ceiling. When I straddled the pillar and tried to sit >in that seat, my face was literally pressed against the concrete. I >can't believe it was a ticket that they actually sold! When I complained >about the "obstructed view", the Garden staff calmly pointed out that >tickets were still available and I was free to buy another. Instead, I >found a free seat on the balcony rail and had a splendid view, although >the sound was a little weird, as I could hear it fly past me down the >hall and strike the rear wall and bounce back. I'll never forget the >sight of the lights going down and the cloud of smoke rising from the >floor as everyone lit up simultaneously! Did you happen to notice how, on the way out of Boston Garden that evening, everyone seemed to be leaving the show in something of a stunned silence? ------------------------------ From: Jeff Subject: Vegas '95 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:58:02 -0600 Ok, I'll admit to this being a wild trip for us from the mountains of Colorado. Raoul Duke himself would have been proud. I've never heard the recordings, and thinking back all I could remember was an Here Comes Sunshine, a Jack Straw, and of course, the Unbroken Chain. But I recall walking away saying I was done. I'd gotten my Unbroken Chain, and only St. Stephen->Eleven was going to get me back to a show. So I went back to look at the setlists finally...wow...were they really the dogs the setlists look like? first two nights got 6 song first sets. Perfectly placed Way to go Home, Cheesy Answers, Samba, Last Time and Corrina to crush any momentum. No wonder I've forgotten these shows. I mean...China->Rider, Samba? Wow. You'd think the trauma of that would have stuck with me. Now, having slammed them based on hazy memory and setlist overanalysis, are they worth listening to? ~Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Bill" Subject: interesting article on guy who started Bit Torrent Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:42:59 GMT http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,1117681,00.html?p romoid=yahoo ------------------------------ From: Bob Ashton Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:44:59 -0500 On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:21:25 -0500, "Steve Terry" wrote: >What was your first and last show? 4/26/72 Frankfurt 7/8/95 Chicago ------------------------------ From: ttotto@webtv.net (william weaver) Subject: Re: why baseball sucks? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:38:46 -0700 i love baseball , used to go to angels games with my girlfriend at the time , i used to kiss her between the strikes and she would kiss me between the balls . forgive me its an old one ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Conservative slams Bush: Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature (NDC) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:48:49 +0900 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?eo20051018db.htm Miers pick reflects Bush's flaky nature By DOUG BANDOW WASHINGTON -- For most men who hold the office of America's president, government is serious business. For George W. Bush it apparently is a hobby. That's the only explanation for his "trust me" nomination of Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court. Miers appears to be a good attorney and competent presidential counsel. But nothing in her career suggests that she is among those most qualified to serve on America's highest court. Indeed, there's no evidence that she has done anything to prepare herself for such a role. Has she ever thought about constitutional jurisprudence? Seriously considered controversial political issues? Studied the historical and philosophical context of American government? She might be a quick learner, but beginning her sixth decade is rather late to prepare for such a dramatic career change. And there's nothing about her, other than the personal confidence of the president, that speaks for her nomination. Ask 10, 100, or 1,000 legal scholars to name the top prospects for the high court, and her name would not appear. Bush might have suppressed his telltale smirk when claiming that she was "the best person I could find," but none of his listeners could avoid smirking. The appointment is simple cronyism. Of course, not all cronyism is created equal. Personal rapport matters for an official likely to work closely with the president, such as the White House Counsel. And Miers at least possesses a basic competence, in contrast to, for instance, one-time presidential favorite Michael Brown at the Federal Emergency Management Agency. But a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court is different. Friendship with the chief executive should not be considered a qualification to sit on the nation's highest judicial tribunal. Indeed, it is cause for concern when a putative Supreme Court Justice reportedly has described the president whose conduct she would judge as the most "brilliant" man she has ever met. At issue is less corruption and more frivolity. Bush simply doesn't take government seriously. Which is why Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is so wrong to say that conservatives "ought to take him at his word" in vouching for Miers' qualifications. Bush's judgment cannot be trusted. Consider his response to Hurricane Katrina. Positions were filled by friends and loyalists -- "Brownie" in the case of FEMA, despite its particularly important role in the post-9/11 world. Nor was performance measured. Just showing up for work meant that Brownie was "doing a heck of a job," as the president put it. Until the political explosion that occurred in Katrina's aftermath, no one had been held accountable for anything in this administration. Iraq is an even more spectacular example. Decide on a policy of war, while discouraging anyone offering evidence contradicting the existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Fail to plan for the most obvious contingencies, such as an insurgency. Ignore the most basic details, such as outfitting troops with body armor and armored vehicles. Refuse to acknowledge mistakes and promote the people who committed the most blunders. Finally, when challenged, dig in and play the old tape with the old rhetoric. It's almost as if the president believes that taking the U.S. into war, the most serious decision any chief executive can make, is akin to a big video game. Similarly warped has been administration budget policy. Bush pushes tax relief for Americans while engaging in an orgy of spending that makes him the Republican Lyndon Johnson. He calls for spending restraint while refusing to veto a single bill. With the new Medicare drug benefit for retirees he helped implement the greatest expansion of the welfare state in 40 years, but took no interest in the measure's specifics, including its cost. He apparently saw no contradiction between talking conservative and promising benefits worth trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities. Bush is not a bad person. But he's a bad decision-maker: Intellectually uncurious and seriously unread. Emotionally he remains a cocky collegiate jock, sure of his own decisions and quick to consider opposition the equivalent of disloyalty. Finally, he is unwilling to reflect on past decisions, acknowledge mistakes, or hold people accountable. The subject is irrelevant. He doesn't have good information, choose good people, recognize why he might be making a bad decision, and reconsider obvious mistakes in the light of experience. Which is why a presidential "trust me" cannot justify elevating Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court. Bush has repeatedly proved that his judgment is suspect. It's up to the U.S. Senate to insist that he treat seriously a presidential decision as important as this one. Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. A former special assistant to President Ronald Reagan, he is a graduate of Stanford University Law School. 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