From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #595 Dead-Flames Digest #595, Volume #48 Mon, 17 Oct 05 06:00:01 PDT Contents: Grateful Dead Sighting ("drmz") Re: guitar question NDC ("The Iron Muffin") Re: fast food soup (nDc) ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: Schadenfreude Alert! (NDC) ("DGDevin") Re: Grateful Dead Sighting (the.stugots@gmail.com) Re: First show/last show ("dyrewlf") Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 (Seth Jackson) Re: First show/last show (Seth Jackson) Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 ("ck") Re: First show/last show (mrpomfrit) Riding with the (BB) King (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 (JimK) Re: First show/last show (Stu Schwartz) Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: fast food soup (nDc) (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: fast food soup (nDc) (The Lord of Eltingville) Visiting San Francisco (steve5877@hotmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "drmz" Subject: Grateful Dead Sighting Date: 16 Oct 2005 21:37:47 -0700 new ABC show Freddie - saw a promo for it one of the guys is wearing a "The Wheel" shirt broken spoke, roses... drmz ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: guitar question NDC Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:52:58 -0400 Corky wrote: The Iron Muffin wrote: > > How does it sound? > > I've been babysitting my friends '64 Vibrolux > and it sounds pretty cool through that. Nice > raw tone. Its all neck. Fun to play for sure. Rock on. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: fast food soup (nDc) Date: 16 Oct 2005 22:02:10 -0700 Oh, I forgot the fresh green beans... ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Schadenfreude Alert! (NDC) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:39:03 GMT "John Doherty" wrote in message news:jgnospamdoherty-9DF2D3.19412516102005@comcast.dca.giganews.com... > My bad, then-- I never was a math Major;-) Million, billion, whatever, why let facts slow down a good rant? ------------------------------ From: the.stugots@gmail.com Subject: Re: Grateful Dead Sighting Date: 16 Oct 2005 23:08:55 -0700 on the phili hendrie show last week... one of his characters, bob green of frazier foods... mentioned customers who have 'jerry garcia complex'... ------------------------------ From: "dyrewlf" Subject: Re: First show/last show Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:23:42 GMT My first was 4/14/82 was dragged by my brother who was supposed to be babysitting me. I had no idea what hit me. I didn't go on my power until 5yrs later. My last was 6/25/95. Steve ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:29:18 GMT On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:49:27 +0900, band beyond description <123@456.com> wrote: >On 2005-10-16 22:50:34 +0900, JimK said: > >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:43:40 GMT, Seth Jackson >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:38:35 GMT, Seth Jackson >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> The Scarlet>Fire>Playing on 10/15 ain't too shabby either. Time to >>>>> break out the Sennheiser 441 FOB masters I made back then and give them >>>>> a whirl over the weekend. Woo-hoo. >>>> >>>> You forgot to mention that as good as the S/F was on 10/15, the >>>> Playin' was equally awesome. >>> >>> Oops! It must be getting late...I reread your first sentence several >>> times to be sure you really omitted the "Playin'" before I posted. >>> And then, after I hit "send", I realized that you did include it, >>> after all! >> >> Hallucinating again?? >> >> JimK > >comes with the Haaaatford territory (I was only there in '82). Some of the best shows I saw were in Hartford. I missed '82, but I was there in '77, '83, '84, and '87, and '88. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: First show/last show Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:35:35 GMT First show: 3/16/73 - Nassau Coliseum (w/NRPS) Last show: 5/21/95 - Las Vegas ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:58:46 -0400 "Seth Jackson" wrote in message news:c3h6l1l0cheu6o876mqfo7qgb5fvhj5kvs@4ax.com... > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:49:27 +0900, band beyond description > <123@456.com> wrote: > > >On 2005-10-16 22:50:34 +0900, JimK said: > > > >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:43:40 GMT, Seth Jackson > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:38:35 GMT, Seth Jackson > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> The Scarlet>Fire>Playing on 10/15 ain't too shabby either. Time to > >>>>> break out the Sennheiser 441 FOB masters I made back then and give them > >>>>> a whirl over the weekend. Woo-hoo. > >>>> > >>>> You forgot to mention that as good as the S/F was on 10/15, the > >>>> Playin' was equally awesome. > >>> > >>> Oops! It must be getting late...I reread your first sentence several > >>> times to be sure you really omitted the "Playin'" before I posted. > >>> And then, after I hit "send", I realized that you did include it, > >>> after all! > >> > >> Hallucinating again?? > >> > >> JimK > > > >comes with the Haaaatford territory (I was only there in '82). > > Some of the best shows I saw were in Hartford. I missed '82, but I > was there in '77, '83, '84, and '87, and '88. you must have wondered where everyone was in '83 because we were all down the road in New Haven that year..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:17:12 +0200 From: mrpomfrit Subject: Re: First show/last show First: 24th May 1970 Hollywood Festival, Newcastle, England. Last: 28th October 1990 Zenith, Paris, France. Not necessarily in that order. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Riding with the (BB) King (NDC) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:22:06 +0900 bc-music-bbking (ATTN: Entertainment editors) (Includes optional trims) One photo (TPN) available at www.latwp.com //A King, and Yet a Prince// (Los Angeles) By Randy Lewis (c) 2005, Los Angeles Times LOS ANGELES - The tour bus where B.B. King is sitting has parked right outside the artists' entrance so the walk to the stage will be short and painless. The venerated guitarist, singer and songwriter is balancing his lifelong yearning to get onstage against offstage life with diabetes. The illness has given him a latter-day second career as a spokesman for a glucose monitoring device, and he mentions those ads for comic relief once he's in front of an audience again. But the truth of his condition is that, at age 80, walking and even standing now require serious effort, the reason he spends as much time as possible off his feet. Stretched across the bus' comfortably upholstered bench, in the same black silk shirt, black slacks and gleaming black patent leather shoes he'll wear onstage, the one-time Mississippi sharecropper exudes a regal presence befitting the man always introduced as ``the king of the blues,'' a musical monarch whose bus is his castle. Yet this is no king in exile. The road is where B.B. King wants - lives - to be: either relaxing before a show with such techno toys as P3 and DVD players and satellite radio, or fiddling with them on the journey to the next gig. The 13-time Grammy winner technically lives in Las Vegas, but rarely spends a week there without a next gig looming. Last year, King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden presented King with the Royal Swedish Academy of Music's annual Polar Music Prize, but despite such late-in-life accolades, there remains one reality for him. The music he's played to audiences in 90 countries more than 300 nights a year for upward of six decades still doesn't receive the recognition he thinks it should. His constant touring, therefore, is as much a product of necessity as desire. ``I'm not doing as much as I once was,'' he says, a sobering comment given not only his touring but the fact that he's just released a new album, ``80,'' of duets with a dozen rock and pop stars; has a new book, ``The B.B. King Treasures''; and is making a series of national TV appearances. Oh, and he's at work on a blues museum in Indianola, Miss., where he grew up. ``People thought I was truly a workaholic. But I never got the exposure in my kind of music that other types of music that are exposed daily in the media (received),'' he says with more than a trace of hurt in his voice. ``I never had that. I've had one record that was played like other records. It was called `The Thrill Is Gone,' the only one I ever had that was played on radio stations like other types of music, unless I was playing with somebody else.'' Before he was a bluesman, he was a country boy named Riley B. King on a Mississippi plantation. He earned 35 cents per 100 pounds of cotton he picked, and he could pull close to 500 pounds a day. Later, he learned to drive a tractor and upped his pay to $22.50 a week. Tractor drivers got a lot more attention from girls than cotton pickers did, but he quickly learned that musicians got even more. That's not the only reason he chose music, but it's not inconsequential either. ``I think woman is God's greatest creation,'' says King, who has been married and divorced twice, with no children. ``I think we're No. 2, but she's No. 1. Not that I want to sleep with every woman I meet, but I admire them all.'' Over his long career, King has made excursions into rock, R&B, even disco, but he's always stayed rooted in the blues, and been a bit disappointed that so few young black musicians seem interested in the sound he loves. (Recently he's toured with Kenny Wayne Shepherd and Joe Bonamassa, two next-generation white blues players.) But you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with a negative word to say about B.B. King or his music. ``B.B. King taps into something universal,'' says Eric Clapton. ``He can't be confined to any one genre. That's why I've called him a `global musician.' '' Nor is there much debate that he's among the kindest souls in the music world. King owes a good part of that to his mother, Nora Ella King, and her words to him when he was 9 and she was dying. As blues historian Charles Sawyer writes in his introduction to ``The B.B. King Treasures'': ``She reminded him that he was a good boy, that he should try to do good, and that he should be kind to others, because the kindness would always come back to him.'' (Begin optional trim) His parents' marriage ended when Riley was 4, but he found four key male role models who helped shape his outlook on people and the world: his grade-school teacher, Luther Henson; Johnson Barrett, the owner of a plantation where he once worked; Flake Cartledge, the patriarch of a white family that employed him as a houseboy; and Bert Ferguson, one of the owners of WDIA, the Memphis, Tenn., radio station where he made his name as ``Blues Boy,'' later simply B.B. Seventy years later, King thinks their examples served him well as he grew up in a segregated South. ``The bad times I had in my early years . . . ,'' he says, his voice trailing off. ``People have been so good to me the last 40 or 50 years that I forgot 'em. I really forgot 'em. For me to think about them, somebody's gotta talk about it - the segregated era and the many things that happened. ''I finally learned that drinking out of a white fountain, the water tastes just as good out of the black one,`` he says. ''I didn't notice the difference.`` (End optional trim) In concert nowadays, King's age is reflected in his thinning and increasingly snowy hair, and the chair on which he sits during most of his performances. He's still impishly animated, though, playing his famed Gibson electric guitar ''Lucille`` - he chose the name after narrowly escaping a 1949 nightclub fire started by two men fighting over a woman called Lucille - with the energy and stinging intensity that's long characterized his music. His vocals remain impassioned, his body contorting with every painful admission, convulsing with the happy ones. ''I try my best to make that story as an actor or an actress would tell the story. . . . Every night I go onstage, I do my best. Every night,`` he says. ''But a lot of times, my best is not as good as I'd like it to be. And that's the truth. And those are the nights I wished I could have done better.`` Discussing ''80,`` his new star-laden duets album, King talks of ''the young people`` who collaborated with him. He's referring to youngsters including Clapton and Van Morrison (both 60), Elton John (58), Glenn Frey and Mark Knopfler (both 56) and relative toddler John Mayer (28). ''I'm so happy that everybody that was asked . . . said yes. And some others who couldn't do it at the time said they would when they could. I thought, `Gosh' . . . and I thought about something I read about Henry Ford. They were talking about people being rich and blessed. And (Ford) said that if he went broke tomorrow, but could borrow a dollar from each one of his employees, he still would be a millionaire. ``And I thought . . . `If I could get 50 cents from each one of my friends around the world, I could become a millionaire too,' '' he says. ``I believe I have that many friends around the world.'' ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: 21 Years Ago -- Hartford '84 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:04:49 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:58:46 -0400, "ck" wrote: > >"Seth Jackson" wrote in message >news:c3h6l1l0cheu6o876mqfo7qgb5fvhj5kvs@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:49:27 +0900, band beyond description >> <123@456.com> wrote: >> >> >On 2005-10-16 22:50:34 +0900, JimK said: >> > >> >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:43:40 GMT, Seth Jackson >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:38:35 GMT, Seth Jackson >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>> The Scarlet>Fire>Playing on 10/15 ain't too shabby either. Time to >> >>>>> break out the Sennheiser 441 FOB masters I made back then and give >them >> >>>>> a whirl over the weekend. Woo-hoo. >> >>>> >> >>>> You forgot to mention that as good as the S/F was on 10/15, the >> >>>> Playin' was equally awesome. >> >>> >> >>> Oops! It must be getting late...I reread your first sentence several >> >>> times to be sure you really omitted the "Playin'" before I posted. >> >>> And then, after I hit "send", I realized that you did include it, >> >>> after all! >> >> >> >> Hallucinating again?? >> >> >> >> JimK >> > >> >comes with the Haaaatford territory (I was only there in '82). >> >> Some of the best shows I saw were in Hartford. I missed '82, but I >> was there in '77, '83, '84, and '87, and '88. > > > you must have wondered where everyone was in '83 because we were all down >the road in New Haven that year..... > New Haven in the Spring, Hartford in the Fall. See DP 6 for proof. JimK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:31:47 -0400 From: Stu Schwartz Subject: Re: First show/last show Stu Schwartz wrote: > Steve Terry wrote: > >> Let's take a poll, for strictly non-scientific purposes. Here it >> goes... What was your first Grateful Dead concert, and your last? >> Anything after 7/9/95 doesn't count. Ladies, I can understand your >> sensitivities about revealing your age, but remember, this is for >> strictly non-scientific purposes. Larry the Joker inspired this by >> telling us that his first show was 3/3/68 and his last was 5/27/89. >> Wow, that's a helluva range! My first was 6/30/84 and my last was >> 6/22/93, I think. What was your first and last show? >> > 3/15/1973 Nassau Coliseum First > 6/25/1995 RFK Last Ooops... I mean 3/16/73... ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Open Apology to the RMGD Women Date: 17 Oct 2005 05:04:01 -0700 Steve Terry wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1129510132.328505.264680@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Christ, you sound like a girl. > > > > So do the Patriots. That's very hurtful, Steve. Mark ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: fast food soup (nDc) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:56:45 -0400 Steve Lenier wrote: > > Who doesn't want soup once in awhile? And in today's America (good thing > Joe's gone), the easiest way to get food is sometimes the drive-through > window. So first, I proclaim here and now that someone needs to create a > fast-food soup chain and they would do very well with it. And if you take my > idea and run with it, I get free soup at your chain forever. > > But more importantly, IS there any good fast food soup available now? I know > of one, and that's the new chicken tortilla soup at El Pollo Loco (for those > of you that have that chain available). I'm telling you, it's GOOD. LOTS of > chicken, good flavor, good veggies. And they give you fresh cilantro, and > some crunchy tortilla strips on the side. Wendy's chili, of course, but that > only works if you're in the mood for chili. I think Subway has soup don't > they? Is it any good? Where else can one go for a good, fast bowl or cup of > soup?? There used to be a chain of soup places in some of the local mall food courts. Soups and stews were all they served. I can't remember the name, and it's been years since I've been to a mall, but they were quite good. When I went back to school in the early 90s, I used to go to the one at the North Shore Mall, rught up the street from the campus. The Baja Fresh here in Stoneham is now serving tortilla soup. I tried a bowl a few weeks ago and was surprised at how tasy it was. I'll probably start getting it more often once the temp drops for the season. ~Ted ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: fast food soup (nDc) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:10:45 -0400 "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" wrote: > > Well, Steve, I make a killer hamburger soup. Beef broth, green peppers, > onions, beef, tomato, alphabet noodles. You'll thank me later. You can't go wrong with beef stew. Coat chunks of chuck with flour and brown in a large pot with some olive oil. Add some coarsely (1-2") chopped onions, celery and carrots, along with enough chicken stock to cover (beef stock tends to make the stew a bit too overbearing). Simmer until the meat starts to get tender. Season to taste with salt & pepper, add some large potato chunks and simmer until the meat pulls apart easily with a fork. If you want a really thick and rich stew, add a dollop of sour cream to the mix and let simmer for another ten or fifteen minutes -- you could also add corn or green beans at this time, if'n that's your thing. I use a pressure cooker so I can have a steaming bowl of stew in front of me in about an hour, but this would be an all-afternoon thing if you were to use a stock pot, or an all-day affair with a slow-cooking crock-pot. Serve with big pieces of freshly baked, crusty bread and plenty butter for a great way to warm the bones on a cold New England night. It's even better when reheated a day or two later... ~Ted ------------------------------ From: steve5877@hotmail.com Subject: Visiting San Francisco Date: 17 Oct 2005 05:53:32 -0700 Hey all I'll be visiting SF from 11/5 through 11/12 on business with significant free time. The tourism stuff I can figure out, I believe. The only thing I'm interested in that's a bit off the norm is driving Rt 1 for some coastal scenery. I've been told that North is less crowded and just as nice. Anyone confirm? What bars with /blues/rock/rockabilly bands should I look for? And (no need to flame me, I know its a loaded question) what cover bands or places that typically feature cover bands? ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .