From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #522 Dead-Flames Digest #522, Volume #48 Fri, 7 Oct 05 12:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (leftie) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (naught@nil.com) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("frndthdevl") Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall (naught@nil.com) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("frndthdevl") Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("Stuknot") Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) ("Dave Kelly") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (JC Martin) Re: New rackmount gear... (wyeknot) Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: New rackmount gear... ("king88uy7") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("pookietooth") Re: Best mixed show... ("Nick's Picks") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("Ray") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (band beyond description) Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall (DB) Re: Best mixed show... (DB) Re: greatest song ever ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (brew ziggins) Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? (band beyond description) The Burning Bush ("Dave") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leftie Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:27:25 -0700 naught@nil.com wrote: > Ry Cooder: Chavez Ravine. May become my favorite Ry recording ever, and > that's saying a lot. It is a stunning piece of work. ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Dave Kelly wrote: > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! > > DJ Sweetbac > I'm pretty into the whole Asian Underground thing these days. Karsh Kale, etc. The old Nusret Fateh Ali Khan thing with Michael Brook got me hooked. Mike Babyak ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 10:32:28 -0700 ahhh,another hipper than thou thread I have been diggin on the I-river tFred's best tunes. http://pbskids.org/rogers/songlist/ ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:39:52 -0400 southforkk wrote: > The Iron Muffin spose thusly: > >> Why did I have to pick such an expensive hobby? > > > > *sigh* > > Hey, Thats what my wife says to me- Heh. > When did you pick up the bass? Early July last year, IIRC. > I thot you was one of those LP guys Hell, yes! I also play electric/acoustic. And when I have a couple more thousand dollars to spare, I'm gonna buy a stand-up bass. > Sounds like you've got GAS. (Gear Accquistion Sydrome) Chronic. > -dave (whose drooling over a Gibson EB2 as seen on ebay right now) > http://tinyurl.com/cga26 OoOoOoooooo! Sexy. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) JC Martin wrote: > If it's a half an hour of Muddy's Chess recordings, the answer would be > yes, it could be less interesting. Jams are great, but when it comes to > the riddims mon, Muddy gots them white alley cats shredded to bloody bits. > Not if it's a half hour of M-A-N. Just like the Creams, some of the great blues guys came to rest on their considerable laurels way too much later in life, when it was largely bs. And maybe much like the Cream-type acts, they deserved to. ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 10:34:39 -0700 http://pbskids.org/rogers/songlist/song7_ra.html ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:43:57 -0400 wyeknot wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > Steve Terry wrote: > > > wyeknot wrote: > > > > At this point though, I'm just plugging an acoustic guitar > > > > into the board and use an Intellitouch vibrational tuner > > > > on the headstock. > > > > > > That's what I use. > > > > So you guys run straight signal into the board? Do you have > > onboard effects on your mixers, or are you playing dry? > > Currently onboard effects for reverb. If not, I'd run it through > something first so not completely dry. Depending on the setlist/ > crowd, etc., I may go through a few effects first (delay, chorus, > even possibly an envelope ala Catfish John). OK, phew. I thought you were saying that you play with totally dry signal straight into a mixer with no effects. My mixer (and my guitarist's mixer, for that matter) has no onboard effects. That's why I use the Lexicon. What kind of mixer do you use, if you don't mind my asking? -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 10:37:22 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! > Y'know, I jumped off the whole "remixes of aboriginal peoples playing music on the reproductive organs of exotic animals" bandwagon a while ago - kind of a been there done that concept for me. I'd probably go see them live though if someone bought me a ticket and gave me a pedicure during the show. John H. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:41:10 GMT YO!.....HERES the future of food http://www.genosteaks.com/ I'd like to tie Koony down and force feed here a foot long provolone with peppers!....I would be screaming: "HERES you dead husbands idea of healthy food you dumb bitch!....why dont you put THAT on a motherfuckin' tye!" I feel better. Good MORNING RMGD! 6 inch Sweetbac ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:44:42 GMT naught@nil.com wrote: > Dave Kelly wrote: > >>I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" >>box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the >>Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top >>Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ >>techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" >>blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! >>Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! >> >>DJ Sweetbac >> > > > I'm pretty into the whole Asian Underground thing these days. Karsh Kale, > etc. The old Nusret Fateh Ali Khan thing with Michael Brook got me > hooked. My wife did a song on one of those Castle Asian Underground comps with a Nusret sample. Too bad the DJ butchered the original track, which once had a John Scofield sample as well. -JC ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:57:12 -0400 The Iron Muffin wrote: > wyeknot wrote: >>Currently onboard effects for reverb. If not, I'd run it through >>something first so not completely dry. Depending on the setlist/ >>crowd, etc., I may go through a few effects first (delay, chorus, >>even possibly an envelope ala Catfish John). > > OK, phew. I thought you were saying that you play with totally > dry signal straight into a mixer with no effects. My mixer (and > my guitarist's mixer, for that matter) has no onboard effects. > That's why I use the Lexicon. > > What kind of mixer do you use, if you don't mind my asking? I mainly use a Mackie 808S. I had put together (and still own) a 16 channel, umpteen watt rack system with enough power to drive mains and monitors; rack compressor/gate, reverb. But I can't transport it myself as it's too heavy and bulky. So I bought the 808S and two Mackie speakers. Now I can load/unload by myself if necessary and it all fits in my Outback, no problem. This system can fill most pub-sized rooms. It can drive monitors as well. http://www.mackie.com/products/808s/ My only complaint with the 808S is it only has a single mute for all channels, not individual channel mutes. That kind of sucks but isn't a show-stopper. There are comparable, competing systems that may offer even more flexibility at a better price. I just bought what I knew. Matt ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:03:09 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > YO!.....HERES the future of food > http://www.genosteaks.com/ > I'd like to tie Koony down and force feed here a > foot long provolone with peppers!....I would be screaming: > "HERES you dead husbands idea of healthy food you dumb > bitch!....why dont you put THAT on a motherfuckin' tye!" > I feel better. > Good MORNING RMGD! > > 6 inch Sweetbac Normally I don't find you funny, but that made me laugh. Not like you needed my approval or anything. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "king88uy7" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:12:51 -0700 fa fa fa foolin fa fa fa foolin ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:14:50 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! > > DJ Sweetbac I've got on Mickey Hart's 1981 world music project recording of an Eskimo lighting his own farts. True story! ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: Best mixed show... Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:22:20 -0700 some of my favorites: 5-24-92 10-1-94 12-30-85 11-21-85 6-2-95 although, there is a new AKG spaced omni FOB recording that is really nice. the DSBD is sparkeling. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:36:49 -0700 frndthdevl wrote: > ahhh,another hipper than thou thread I'm not sure what you're referring to, but if you're not familiar with Fela Kuti ("The Best Best Of" is a great intro), King Sunny Ade ("Juju Music" is a must have), and Ali Farka Toure ("Timbuktu" with Ry Cooder is very good) then you should check them out - really. Truly great music. Baaba Maal ("Djam Leeli" is a good intro) too. I think most heads who have an interest in music outside of classic rock and/or the jamband scenes would really enjoy this stuff. Ray ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:43:49 -0700 OH!! And how could I be so remiss as to neglect to mention: Jefferson Starship- Blows Against the Empire Haven't heard it in years, but now have the CD thanks to some wonderful person, and it is every bit as good as I remember! AND P&F 5/27/00 Mtn. Aire 2000 Angel's Camp, CA Nice Dark Star>Other One>Cryptical>The Eleven!!!!! Very cool! http://www.philzone.com/phil_pix/2000-mtn_aire/ ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 03:48:50 +0900 On 2005-10-07 06:37:12 +0900, kpnnews@yahoo.com said: > > leftie wrote: >> > > I have been obsessing on a couple of releases lately. > They are getting a lot of airplay at work. > > 1) Soil & Pimp Sessions - This is probably the jazz > find of the year for me. They are a group out of Japan > that can best be described as a very intense version > of Music Inc. Some of there tunes have almost a > Zappa-like flow (maybe a stretch, think Waka-Jawaka). > I got Summer Goddess and was blown away. Great stuff. Soil & Pimp Sessions is going to be doing a show on my Japanese cable TV system later this month; I'll try to catch them if possible. for freeform, wild improv jazz out of Japan, I also recommend Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden. I saw them open for James Chance a couple months ago in Tokyo and later went out and got their latest release, a CD/DVD combo called "Musical From Chaos 2." here's a local English article from a year or two ago about them: http://metropolis.japantoday.com/tokyo/4578/music_beat.asp -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:45:57 -0400 JC Martin wrote: > DB wrote: > >> band beyond description wrote: >> >>> On 2005-10-07 01:21:25 +0900, JC Martin said: >>> >>>> marklaw wrote: >>>> >>>>> Performance pretty good for old geezers. >>>>> >>>>> Recording quality a major disappointment. >>>>> >>>>> In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live >>>>> recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on >>>>> archive.org? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, >>>> yet soulless vampin'. >>>> >>>> -JC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> there! you said it! but i heard the bootlegs and occasional lack of >>> sound quality could be forgiven, but not the underlying stuff which >>> you so eloquently describe. >> >> >> >> >> Well, that sure justifies my decision not pay $400 a ticket to see >> these guys at MSG later this month. The $22.50 per ticket I spent to >> get Umphrey's McGee tix for the two Irving Plaza shows the week before >> is looking to be a much better investment. > > > > > Even though I said IT, I'd pay maybe $50 to see these guys at the > Oakland Coliseum for the nostalgia factor. I don't hate their music, > but it's kinda a 'been there, done that' kind of group for me. > > -JC You could probably talk me into paying as much as $80 for a decent seat (that's what the Allman's charge for the Beacon run), but $375 plus TM charges to see these greedy old geezers play at MSG is just over the edge and out of control. DB ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Best mixed show... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:47:49 -0400 Nick's Picks wrote: > some of my favorites: > > 5-24-92 > 10-1-94 > > 12-30-85 > 11-21-85 > > 6-2-95 > although, there is a new AKG spaced omni FOB recording that is really > nice. the DSBD is sparkeling. > Hey, what happened to the 6/12/92 Albany show you were raving about in an earlier thread? DB ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:53:34 -0700 RickNBarbInSD wrote: This was really tough there are so many "favorites" > I have, but I tried to narrow it down Hey, that reminds me; there's this section from St. Stephen on "Live Dead": "High green chilly winds and windy vines in loops around the twining shafts of lavender, they're crawling to the sun Underfoot the ground is patched with climbing arms of ivy wrapped around the manzanita, stark and shiny in the breeze Wonder who will water all the children of the garden when they sigh about the barren lack of rain and droop so hungry 'neath the sky... William Tell has stretched his bow till it won't stretch no furthermore and/or it may require a change that hasn't come before" I LOVE that bit!!! Truly one of my favorite things (besides rain drops on roses of course) EVER!! My question to y'all IS: Other than "Live Dead" where can I get any good versions of this?!?! Many thanks in advance, Rick ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:57:08 -0400 Thus spake sweetbac@pacbell.net... > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! If you don't have the two bonus discs that came with the pre-order only, give a holler... -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 03:58:26 +0900 On 2005-10-07 22:02:58 +0900, pbuzby2002@yahoo.com said: > > band beyond description wrote: >> by the way, anyone have any pithy comments to make about this release? > > I reviewed it for jambands.com. Wasn't crazy about it. Some hot licks > and a few inventive rearrangements of Miles's tunes, but too mellow and > it sounds like the guitarists have never met the rhythm section > players. > > Pat Buzby > Chicago, IL it kinda impressed me that way after a cursory Amazon search, in that the same studio band backed a series of similar-themed albums with guest guitarists; probably not worth it just for the few tracks I would like: Fusion for Miles: A Guitar Tribute ~ Various Artists Mysterious Voyages: A Tribute to Weather Report ~ Various Artists Visions of an Inner Mounting Apocalypse: A Fusion Guitar Tribute ~ Various Artists   -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Dave" Subject: The Burning Bush Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 07:57:22 +1300 Given God's previous record in the middle east this is a worry. Dave http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10349260 Bush: God told me to invade Iraq and attack Afghanistan 08.10.05 By Rupert Cornwell President George W. Bush has claimed God told him to invade Iraq and attack Afghanistan, as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and Palestinian independence. The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a new BBC series. The broadcast came on the day Mr Bush launched an impassioned attack in Washington on Islamic militants, likening their ideology to communism, and accusing them of seeking to "enslave whole nations" and set up a radical Islamic empire "that spans from Spain to Indonesia". In the programme, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, former Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former Prime Minister and now Palestinian President, that "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq', and I did." And Bush is quoted as telling the two men, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And by God, I'm gonna do it." The BBC reported that the White House had dismissed the allegations as "absurd". "He's never made such comments," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given that throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith. He told Bob Woodward - whose 2004 book Plan of Attack is the definitive account of the road to war in Iraq - that after giving the order to invade, he walked in the White House garden, praying "that our troops be safe, be protected by the Almighty". He told Woodward, "I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will. I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness." - INDEPENDENT ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .