From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #475 Dead-Flames Digest #475, Volume #48 Sun, 2 Oct 05 20:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Playboy After Dark DVD B+P ("seraphim") Re: Gentlemen Start Your Engines ("Jerry's Kids") Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? (Steve Lenier) Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: FA: GRATEFUL DEAD LP Album Collection SWEET! ("Tim Ujin") Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? ("Dave Kelly") Re: We're Excited (NDC) ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Sweden's New Funeral Rite (Real Dead Content) ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? (Steve Lenier) More on that unnecessary prescription drug thing (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: essential AUD recordings... ("Greg Sasso") Re: No Direction Home (JimK) Re: No Direction Home (JimK) Fangoria-lauded B-movie filmmaker Cunha dies (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: Today's Strictly Bluegrass Festival ("band beyond description") Re: Billy Goat Tavern (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: free shows (JimK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "seraphim" Subject: Re: Playboy After Dark DVD B+P Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:52:29 GMT I got this one as a vine sorry "Spider Dawg" wrote in message news:slrndjvk55.8gh.Spidergawdnospam@linux.site... > On 2005-10-02, band beyond description <123@456.com> wrote: >> Mike, before I would bother you about a B&P, is this still an active >> torrent? I couldn't find it after searching DAD...am I looking in the >> right >> place? > > Yes, I'd love a link also, love to see the Deep Purple and Steppenwolf > and..... all of it. > > Jim ------------------------------ From: "Jerry's Kids" Subject: Re: Gentlemen Start Your Engines Date: 2 Oct 2005 16:46:42 -0700 Don Bean wrote: > 'If they lock up the whiskey give them gasoline.....' > > I only saw them do this tune once... Maybee pitsburgh or Virginia during a > summer tour (87 or 88??) > Bean > http://subrosa.arbre.us/SubRosaMusic.html It's three AM in the combat zone Gentlemen, start your engines You can close this bar, but baby I ain't going Gentlemen, start your engines If you lock up the whiskey, give me gasoline I got a seven grand redline on the black machine The dead can do my sleeping, if you know what I mean Gentlemen, start your engines Got a little girl here in a pinafore Gentlemen, start your engines She's gonna do us all and then beg for more Gentlemen, start your engines It's dark outside, but it's darker within Check the back of my jacket just to see my grin They don't write poems about the state that I'm in Gentlemen, start your engines One of these days I'm gonna pull myself together Soon as I finish tearing myself apart Let me tell you, honey, there's some mighty stormy weather Rolling round the caverns of my heart When the police come you better let them in Gentlemen, start your engines Don't forget to tell them what a sport I've been Gentlemen, start your engines I got a head full of vintage TNT They're gonna blow me up instead of burying me If you don't like trouble, better leave me be Gentlemen, start your engines ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:06:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? From: Steve Lenier in article GxX%e.57$B14.13@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com, Dave Kelly at sweetbac@pacbell.net wrote on 10/2/05 1:36 PM: > Had a blast at yesterdays Strictly Blurgrass fest > in Golden Gate Park. My sherpa, Mr Wonderful, > was running late, so we got there when Doc Watson > was just coming on...VERY crowded...people on blankets > and those little chairs...whats up with that?....come ON > folks...take it to the beach...and don't get me STARTED > on the goddamn baby strollers?...Wonderful damn near trampled > a toddler as we tried....let me repeat that...TRIED to muscle > our way into the throng...hey people, a park is NO place > for kids....go to the mall....this is about art!....now get OUT > of our fuckin' way!....yes, I KNOW thats your blanket... > you wanna sleep?....go home...Wonderful muddied more than > one sleeping bag...did I mention the fog?...we were in NO > mood for such games...did anyone see us?....I was the dark, > brooding, handsome motherfucker with the 12'er of Newcastle > Brown ale...Wonderful shlepped a tank strapped to his back > Anyhows, we made our escape as Doc was croaking "Shady Grove" > and took refuge in Lindley Meadow as Rodney Crowell and band were > throwing it down....much cooler scene...we regrouped over beer and > plotted our next move...that would be the "Banjo" stage for the triumphant > return of the fabulous Knitters...the Knitters are X in rockabilly mode. > Dave Alvin tore it UP on the guitar...John & Exene were great...DJ > Bonebreak on the brushes and hat...stand up bass slapper...a treat. > We were going to brave the crowd and peep Earl Scruggs in another > meadow, but that was quickly voted down...fine with me...we decided > to hold our ground and see ...um.. Joe Ely/Calexico/Los Super Tacos... > whatEVER the hell they are called...various regulars on this chat group > have been heaping on the praise...hey, we're open to new things... > people I TRUST said good things...I'm always up for new sounds... > the crowd aint going anywhere...bike messenger types....punks.. > hippies...various degenerates...drunk 2-stepping.....we were home. > Um...how do I say this....godDAMN were they boring...17-18 folks > on stage....violin section...horns...squeezebox...some punk dressed like > he was at a mafia greeting...polyester suit...black turtleneck...shades... > kicking out a freddy fender jam...waiting for SOMETHING to happen.. > It sounded like 3 different bands playing at the same time... > I gave the high sign to Wonderful about 30 minutes into this mess.... > The beer was almost gone, and a thick layer of fog was hanging in the > trees.. > We rolled out of the park and settled into a massive deep dish pizza and > pints at Little Star on Divisadero...sausage/pepperoni/mushrooms... > Boont Amber...we paid the bill....$28...$10 tip. > We're like that. > > Sweetbac productions sounds like a great day Sweetz...but, by "we're like that", do you mean "too drunk and/or mathematically-challenged to figure out a reasonable tip?" ;) Steve ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:20:43 GMT "RickNBarbInSD" > wrote in message RossMcGibbon wrote: > Love 'em. > Okay, they're not perfect but I'd take them over 94 or 95 Dead. > Songs, passion and jamming. More organic feeling than Phil can be > sometimes. > I'm not about to start collecting show recordings but a damn good night > out. And, yes, I'd drive 9 hours. > > Ross Yup! Last time I caught 'em wuz at 4th an' B in SD a couple a' years ago now an' they rocked the joint! ASS-KICKING OMSN encore!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick ***************************************** Truth be told, I'd rather see Ratdog than P&F. Is Bobby still falling down drunk? If so, I'll save the $35. ------------------------------ From: "Tim Ujin" Subject: Re: FA: GRATEFUL DEAD LP Album Collection SWEET! Date: 2 Oct 2005 17:21:54 -0700 If you open up Live Dead, you can use it pretty effectively for cleaning pot as I recall. On the other hand if you pick up Europe 72 and try to find a particular record when you are really f***d up, one of the other two discs will fall out onto the floor. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:37:34 GMT "Steve Lenier" wrote in message news:BF65C418.32169%slenier@comcast.net... > sounds like a great day Sweetz...but, by "we're like that", do you mean > "too > drunk and/or mathematically-challenged to figure out a reasonable tip?" > ;) * Drunk?...nah man...more like pleasantly lubricated! We're pros, after all. Feel me. Ten bucks tip on a $28 dollah bill?.... thats what....32?...34?...percent... thats how we rolls, baby!....I don't know how you do it in Idaho...or india...or WHEREVER the fuck yer from, but we handles binniss out on the west side! ( ok....Mr. Wonderful was smitten with the waitress.... he got her digits on the way out...turns out the number was for a dry cleaners in El Sobrante....but STILL.... we carry ourselves with a LOT of class.) * Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:38:39 GMT "JC Martin" wrote in message ... http://kdka.com/consumer/local_story_154174957.html 2003 Lemon cars...... ********************************** Not one Saturn on the list. Not on the list of praise either... ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: Sweden's New Funeral Rite (Real Dead Content) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:43:52 GMT "Walter Karmazyn"> wrote in message ... scarletbgonias@hotmail.com wrote in message >This is very interesting... I like the idea of becoming a tree after >I'm buried. > >Theresa >------------------------------------------ Hey Theresa, here's what's happening here, more traditional and organic.... W Then another article: Marin cemetery: Ashes to ashes, dust to mulch Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writer Sunday, August 22, 2004 "This is what the cemetery will look like," he said. "Like nature." It is the kind of place that Goldberg wants to be, forever. She isn't dying but likes the idea so much that she is almost looking forward to the day. "I always wanted to be buried wrapped only in a shroud under a redwood tree," said Goldberg, who would not reveal her age, but believes she is old enough to begin contemplating her mortality. "I told them I want to be first on the list." ********************************************** Does anyone have a will with their funeral planned out? If so, what are your final plans? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:55:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Punks in the Park....or my grass is blue? From: Steve Lenier in article i3%%e.85$we3.15@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Dave Kelly at sweetbac@pacbell.net wrote on 10/2/05 5:37 PM: > > "Steve Lenier" wrote in message > news:BF65C418.32169%slenier@comcast.net... > >> sounds like a great day Sweetz...but, by "we're like that", do you mean >> "too >> drunk and/or mathematically-challenged to figure out a reasonable tip?" >> ;) > > * Drunk?...nah man...more like pleasantly lubricated! > We're pros, after all. > Feel me. > Ten bucks tip on a $28 dollah bill?.... > thats what....32?...34?...percent... > thats how we rolls, baby!....I don't know how you > do it in Idaho...or india...or WHEREVER the fuck yer from, > but we handles binniss out on the west side! > ( ok....Mr. Wonderful was smitten with the waitress.... > he got her digits on the way out...turns out the number > was for a dry cleaners in El Sobrante....but STILL.... > we carry ourselves with a LOT of class.) > > * Sweetbac Productions well ya didn't SAY she was CUTE...that changes things...down here in the O.C. we turns on our cell phones to get that tip calculator rockin, give a solid 18.2 percent tip IF they refilled our water glass enough and brought extra bread...back when I lived in the City of Angels the servers were all in "the industry" so they didn't even NEED my money...clearly they were wait-staffing just for the experience, so they could incorporate it into a role...hey, speaking of rolls, where's that damn waitress? Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: More on that unnecessary prescription drug thing (NDC) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:12:26 +0900 http://www.japantimes.com/cgi-bin/geted.pl5?eo20051003a1.htm Beware the hype on antipsychotic drugs By CESAR CHELALA Special to The Japan Times NEW YORK -- A new study financed by the U.S. government sheds new light on the system that promotes and approves new drugs, and shows the need for stricter guidelines to better protect consumers and reduce unnecessary government spending. The study, sponsored by the National Institute of Mental Health, compared four new-generation drugs, and one older drug, used to treat schizophrenia, a mental disorder that affects more than 3 million people in the United States. It involved an 18-month clinical trial involving 1,400 adults from around the nation. The trial, called the Clinical Antipsychotic Trials of Intervention Effectiveness, or CATIE, measured how long patients continued to take their assigned drugs before they switched because of the feeling that their drug wasn't working or was causing serious side effects. All drugs in the trial were effective in blunting symptoms of schizophrenia, such as delusions and hallucinations. Treatment with these drugs enables many patients to leave mental hospitals and return to a relatively normal life. Perhaps the best known description of the problems schizophrenic patients face is that of John Forbes Nash, Jr., a brilliant mathematician and Nobel laureate, and the subject of the 2001 Academy Award-winning film "A Beautiful Mind." The CATIE trial showed that, although the drug olanzapine, marketed by Eli Lilly as Zyprexa, was slightly more effective than the others, patients treated with olanzapine tended to gain more weight. Olanzapine also had negative effects on glucose and lipid metabolism, thus increasing the risks of becoming obese and developing diabetes and heart problems. (Weight gain is one of the most common reasons patients give for discontinuing this medication.) Perhaps the most significant finding in the study is that the oldest and cheapest drug selected for the trial, perphenazine, was as effective as the newer medications. Perphenazine costs $50 a month, while other drugs such as Zyprexa cost up to 12 times more. The study didn't evaluate some newer drugs on the market. The new drugs represent $10 billion in annual sales. The fact that the older and cheaper drug was as effective as the newer ones in treating schizophrenia probably won't change private doctors' prescription patterns. But the findings will probably have a big effect on state Medicaid programs, many of which are short on funds because of the high cost of schizophrenia drugs. The CATIE trial is particularly significant because, unlike previous short-term trials in which the drug under study was compared to a placebo, the drugs were compared with each other in terms of efficacy. The finding that the cheapest drug is as efficient as newer, more expensive ones will result in huge direct savings for consumers. It will also benefit them indirectly by diminishing Medicaid's huge expense load in antipsychotic drugs. One should not conclude that the newer drugs for schizophrenia should be automatically discontinued. They should be specifically tailored to every patient with the potential benefits and side effects taken into account. In that regard, it is important to assess each patient's risk factors when a medication is chosen. This study shows that consumers should be wary of promotional campaigns conducted by drug manufacturers that promise to deliver better drugs without substantiating their claims with facts. At a policy level it shows the need to place more stringent demands on drug approval and promotion, and to show the evident benefits by comparing drugs with each other rather than to a placebo. At stake is the health and well-being of millions of people who rely on the government for their protection. Dr. Cesar Chelala is an international public health consultant. The Japan Times: Oct. 3, 2005 ------------------------------ From: "Greg Sasso" Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: 2 Oct 2005 18:37:46 -0700 pbuzby2002@yahoo.com wrote: > tonewoods@rockisland.com wrote: > > > Is anyone combining AUDs and SBDs in Protools to give the "rather flat" > > SBDs a little (or a lot) more life? > > Yes. Check around for "matrixes." > Matrices even. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:20:04 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 2 Oct 2005 08:59:22 -0700, "Shaun" wrote: >Dylanstubs sez... > >>Are we speaking of studio work only? Oh Mercy, Time Out of Mind, and >>Love and Theft were all great albums > >They sure are! I always felt Infidels was a seriously underrated album >as well. I also like John Wesley Harding, Nashville Skyline and much >of Self Portrait, though I don't think any of those hold up to Dylan's >pre-1966 work or any of the other, later albums we've mentioned here. > >Peace, >Shaun John Wesley Harding is as good as any Dylan album, imo. Not only did it include a classic group of songs, but his voice and vocal style were as good as any other record he made. JimK ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:21:44 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 2 Oct 2005 08:56:04 -0700, "Shaun" wrote: >Brew sez... > >>Neither the Beatles nor Dylan have done anything interesting since 1966, >>with the possible exception of 'Blood on the Tracks'. Oh, and the 'Penny >>Lane'/'Strawberry Fields' single. > >Blood On the Tracks and I had a good laugh at that. > >I could name other excellent Dylan (and Beatles) work since 1966, incl. >Dylan's two most recent albums, and even a few selected solo Beatles >gems (primarily from Lennon and Harrison) but that one stands out the >most. > >Peace, >Shaun Let's not forget Good As You Been To Me and World Gone Wrong, both exceptional recordings of acoustic Dylan. JimK ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Fangoria-lauded B-movie filmmaker Cunha dies (NDC) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:25:31 +0900 bc-cunha-obit (ATTN: National editors) //Sci-Fi Filmmaker Richard E. Cunha, 83, Dies// By Dennis McLellan (c) 2005, Los Angeles Times Richard E. Cunha, a cinematographer and director who directed a quartet of low-budget movies in the late 1950s that have achieved cult status among horror and sci-fi film aficionados, including ``Giant From the Unknown'' and ``She Demons,'' has died. He was 83. Cunha died of heart failure Sept. 18 at his home in Oceanside, Calif., said his family. The Honolulu-born Cunha, who served as an Army Air Forces cameraman during World War II, had a decade of industrial films, commercials and television work behind him when he moved into low-budget feature filmmaking in 1957. He directed only a handful of films, with his four best-known ones released in 1958: ``Giant From the Unknown,'' ``She Demons,'' ``Missile to the Moon'' and ``Frankenstein's Daughter.'' Aimed at the drive-in and neighborhood movie-house market, they were made on shoestring budgets of $65,000 or less with six-day shooting schedules. ``Monsters from the Vault'' magazine writer Steve Kronenberg once wrote that Cunha ``made a lasting contribution to low-budget genre filmmaking'' and deemed all four films ``genuine genre gems'' that are ``tinged with an edgy nastiness and political incorrectness.'' Critically, however, Cunha's films were a bust. ``Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide'' dismisses ``Missile to the Moon,'' starring Richard Travis and Cathy Downs, as: ``Preposterous, low-budget sci-fi (film) about lunar expedition finding sinister female presiding over race of moon-women. Lots of laughs, for all the wrong reasons.'' ``Too boring to be funny,'' Maltin's book says of ``She Demons,'' in which three men and a sexy woman ``are stranded on an island inhabited by Nazi criminals, a mad scientist, and the title creatures.'' It starred Irish McCalla and Tod Griffin. ``They were not popular with the critics, but down on the level of `monster kids' - as we sci-fi/horror nuts call ourselves - these movies have always been big favorites,'' fantasy and science fiction movie expert Tom Weaver told the Los Angeles Times on Friday. For his part, Cunha had no illusions about his films, especially about what they'd do for the careers of the actors who appeared in them. ``I don't recall what happened to any of these people,'' he told Weaver in a 1984 Q&A article in Fangoria magazine. ``It always seems whenever I make a picture, that's the person's last picture. It must be something I do.'' His shoestring film budgets were always a problem for Cunha. Funds were so meager on ``Missile to the Moon,'' he said, ``that it was just impossible to create the proper atmosphere for a spaceship - although I think, on the money we did have, the interior of the spaceship worked well. It included many pieces of grip equipment, as I recall, and we used a big dimmer bank for some of the controls on the missile.'' With ``X number of dollars'' available, he said, ``you don't run over on these low-budget films - you shoot the opening scenes and the end scenes, and then fill in the picture in between.'' Born in 1922, Cunha attended Art Center School in Los Angeles and briefly ran a photo studio in Hollywood. But the day after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, he enlisted in the Army Air Forces. As part of the photographic division, he shot reconnaissance missions over Africa, India, China, South America and the Aleutian Islands. Later, as a member of the Army Air Force's First Motion Picture Unit, he shot military training films. After the war, Cunha formed his own company, which produced industrial films and TV commercials. As a cameraman, he also shot the early TV shows ``The Adventures of Marshal O'Dell'' and ``Captain Bob Steele and the Border Patrol.'' He later served as a director of photography on ``Death Valley Days'' and ``Branded'' before working as a director and cinematographer for Screen Gems' commercial division. Cunha is survived by his wife of 62 years, Kathryn ``Peaches'' Cunha; sons Rick, Michael and Anthony; a daughter, Kathryn; a sister, Mae Cunha Ross; seven grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. His son Steven died in 1972. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Today's Strictly Bluegrass Festival Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:33:14 +0900 wrote in message news:1128275696.382041.30550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Damn, I wanted to catch Rodney Crowell. And more. > Stuck at home on a fine, if mild, indian summer day. Working on busted > drain pipes and other assorted odious chores. > Glad you folks made it. Was it pretty crowded again? > Larry > I refer you to the Brett Meisner ("I don't hate Bluegrass. I saw the Outlaws in concert at least nine times...") thread... -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Billy Goat Tavern (NDC) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:40:35 +0900 "Bzl." wrote in message news:3qa7b9Fdqoh1U1@individual.net... > > "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message > news:3q6pqpFdb0d0U1@individual.net... > > Chee-borgah, chee-borgah, a taste of Chicago is on its way to DC... > > http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=580891 > > -- > > Peace, > > Steve > > > "Sam Sianis also said he isn't about to put a curse on anyone or anything in > Washington, as his uncle did on the Cubs when owner P.K. Wrigley would not > let his goat, who had a ticket, into the 1945 World Series _ coincidentally, > the last year the Cubs ever made it to the World Series." > > They better keep their baseball curses away from my Nats! > > That's why it's like a "theme park" version of the Billy Goat (a la Hard Rock Cafe), as the Chicago Tribune's Clarence Page says in the article...if it was "real," like the Michigan Ave. original in Chicago, they wouldn't allow Republicans... Word. -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: free shows Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:45:26 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:17:16 -0400, "Harry Bournazian" wrote: >First to e-mail me and tell me who was the first punter to be a 1st round >draft pick > >shows are in shn format. > >jgb > >2/04/94 >2/05/94 >2/06/94 > >Harry > I'll pass on the shows, but that would be Ray Guy, would it not? JimK ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .