From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #432 Dead-Flames Digest #432, Volume #48 Wed, 28 Sep 05 12:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster (brew ziggins) Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster ("Ray") Re: etree down... (DB) Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: Comes a Time Rex Benefit ... do we need an offer? (DB) Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite ("mjd") Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster ("Stuknot") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite ("Mizshely") Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster ("Steve Terry") looking for friends in south east VA ("gnome") Re: ndd-A Rose is a rose ("Sean Baker") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite (Peter_Wimsey) Re: SKB - Capistrano ("Andrew Murawa") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite (JimK) Umphrey's in NYC -- Yesss! (DB) Re: (NDC) Bug Man goin' down? (JimK) Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. ("Gabe Grall") Re: the strangest of places... (flat9) Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster (brew ziggins) Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: Umphrey's in NYC -- Yesss! ("Greg Sasso") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite ("pookietooth") Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. ("Greg Sasso") Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. ("Josh") Re: the strangest of places... ("Josh") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:24:59 -0400 Thus spake hayman@nospam.duke.edu... > I thought this was moderately funny; the comments from the Kansas board > of ed are the best part, > N > > http://www.venganza.org/ Ah, yes, the pastafarians... Apparently there's a theological schism as to whether the FSM is made of linguine or fettucini. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:35:17 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > Ah, yes, the pastafarians... > > Apparently there's a theological schism as to whether the FSM is made of > linguine or fettucini. As every True Pastafarian knows, the Fettucinites are wrong and they will burn in hell for their blasphemy against the Noodly Master. Ray (Touched By His Noodly Appendage) ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: etree down... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:34:38 -0400 tim_ratdog wrote: > DG wrote: > >>Anyone know why? > > > eaxe? > > -tim > It took me a moment, but LOL. DB ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:36:19 -0700 Brew wrote: "Apparently there's a theological schism as to whether the FSM is made of linguine or fettucini. " What, not Angel Hair? Theresa ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Comes a Time Rex Benefit ... do we need an offer? Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:39:14 -0400 There are actually 2 audience recordings in circulation as BT's right now. Rob R's 3 Nak 300's and a source labeled "MBHO 603a/ka200n>Sound Devices 722 @ 24bit/96khz" taped by Ian Stone. Any consensus on which sounds better? Well, maybe consensus is a bad choice of words around here. I'll just take a few opinions if anyone has compared to the 2 sources. DB ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:46:46 -0700 >Dylan was about what he wrote and played >and performing that music, not some movement that he had to adhere to. I loved the interview where Dylan was asked how many other people are writing protest songs; he says "...136", the press-dweeb, dead serious, asks, "...is that exactly 136, or about 136?". Bob tells him, 142. Just classic... ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:47:19 -0700 Ray wrote: > brew ziggins wrote: > > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > > > Ah, yes, the pastafarians... > > > > Apparently there's a theological schism as to whether the FSM is made of > > linguine or fettucini. > > As every True Pastafarian knows, the Fettucinites are wrong and they > will burn in hell for their blasphemy against the Noodly Master. > > Ray (Touched By His Noodly Appendage) Heretic! Apostate! Fettucinites will not burn in hell, they will boil there. John H. WWFSMD? ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: 28 Sep 2005 10:54:50 -0700 Lol! As the kid who embarrassed herself for going on 40 years now with that movie magazine comment (which landed up in this film, can't I get some $$$ kicked my way for THAT???) , I can testify that even in person, it is difficult to understand what Dylan says. Unless you listen. He is amazing. Always was, always will be. Always a teeny bopper and proud of it, Michelle McFee ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:57:52 -0500 "Stuknot" wrote in message: > Heretic! Apostate! Fettucinites will not burn in hell, they will boil > there. No al dente for them. ------------------------------ From: "gnome" Subject: looking for friends in south east VA Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:02:29 -0400 just moved here and trying to find some kind people. post here or email me. gnome ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: ndd-A Rose is a rose Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:03:04 -0500 Anybody catch the interview of "Marty" Scorsesi with Charlie Rose. I don't think I've ever seen a bad interview by Rose. This was a fun interview for both. A great end to two nights of excellent PBS tee vee. Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: Peter_Wimsey Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:04:38 -0400 Mizshely wrote: > Lol! As the kid who embarrassed herself for going on 40 years now with > that movie magazine comment (which landed up in this film, can't I get > some $$$ kicked my way for THAT???) , I can testify that even in > person, it is difficult to understand what Dylan says. Unless you > listen. He is amazing. Always was, always will be. > > Always a teeny bopper and proud of it, > Michelle McFee > Excellent! N ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: SKB - Capistrano Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:04:34 -0700 "Steve Lenier" wrote in message news:BF5F8F99.319C5%slenier@comcast.net... > in article r5e_e.997$Fi3.452@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net, Dave Kelly at > sweetbac@pacbell.net wrote on 9/27/05 9:05 AM: > >> >> "Andrew Murawa" wrote in message >> news:3pr49gFbq5ecU1@individual.net... >>> This could be summed up in one word: Wow! >> >> * OH....TELL it, brother! >> Looking forward to New Years Eve..gotta pick up a tick. >> Master sounds like he took care of binniss. >> Did any other rmgd folk show they face? >> No, huh? >> What are we gonna DO with these lames, Andy? > > > I loaded up on codeine cough syrup and slept from about 4 pm on, aside > from > a brief wake-up for dinner...got attacked the day before by a vicious > throat > thing I just loaded up on aspirin and beer and danced... Not saying one is better than the other, really... ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:09:19 GMT "pv34pv3p" wrote in message news:1127882918.715439.61830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Nice work 007....I mean DGDevin...;~) > > Tony Blair supports your efforts and they won't go unrecognized... > > pv34pv3p(Help on the way....) Ummm, okay, whatever.... ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:11:58 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:08:40 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote: > >"Peter_Wimsey" wrote in message >news:dhehb1$vma$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu... >> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>> >>> That folkie crowd was one stuck-up and snobby bunch. Any deviation from >>> the accepted norm of acoustic folk perfection, any lyrics that spoke to >>> anything other than civil rights and world peace and labor organizing was >>> automatically assumed to be a threat to the genre. > >> I didn't get that at all. > >They hated that he was writing about individuals instead of "the movement". >That was explicitly stated in the film. Who cares about some kid going out >on his own like a rolling stone? We're all supposed to be together! Seeger >was almost apoplectic in the film as he explained his anger over this at the >time. To think that one of us would write about an individual breaking away >from norm. For shame! IIRC, Seeger said he was pissed because the sound was so bad that nobody could understand any of the words. One of the others interviewed said he thought Pete was upset with the sound because his father had a hearing problem and was bothered by the sound. There have been a lot of rumors over the years about Seeger's disdain for Dylan's electric music, but I'm not sure any have ever been confirmed. >> Many of Dylan's tunes were not about these things, and Pete and Joan saw >> the transcendence of his stuff. I think they felt that the rock scene was >> the stuck up and snobby bunch, and didn't want to lose their hero to it. > >The irony was that they were the stuck up snobs, and while rock was clearly >more commercial, it was also far more original and creative than singing >This Land is Your Land for the Brazilionth time. > >>> They were right. The incredibly sappy Pete Seeger (who apparently saw >>> himself as some kind of folk music god) and the incredibly annoying Joan >>> Baez (ok, she was hot, but still annoying) could never compete musically >>> or commercially with Dylan. This isn't totally accurate, either. Seeger and Baez were pretty well-established commercial successes, as folkies go, well before Dylan came along and certainly before he went electric. It is true that Dylan eventually surpassed them both musically and commercially. But without their support in his early years, who knows if Dylan would have ever made it big. Thankfully, he did. > >> I don't think this is fair. Pete Seager is (and probably was then) a >> wonderful, approachable, and modest person who has done a lot for >> education and environmental awareness, as well as propagating the folk >> tradition that we (deadheads) benefit from. > >True enough. Yet his music is grating, annoying, and dated. Never could >stand that pretentious academic approach to music. Or him. Yecch. I'm not a big Seeger fan either, but his contributions to music and politics have to be recognized. > >> Now, I can't stand Joan Baez's singing, but you can't take away her >> contribution either. Even Dylan would tell you both these things. > >She did her thing for a while and it was fresh. It stayed right there and >didn't change for decades. She really wasn't about music anyway, she use it >to advance her politcal beliefs. Dylan was about what he wrote and played >and performing that music, not some movement that he had to adhere to. >That's why in the film they explained that he didn't want Baez to share a >stage with him because she wanted to do a bunch of protesty political stuff >instead of just playing music. He wouldn't let her on. She was pissed. > >>> Jealousy and envy. > >> No, short-sightedness and possessiveness. > >Jealousy and envy and shortsightedness and possessiveness. > >EGBH > Joan Baez can sure be annoying at times (note her phony, intellectual speaking mannerisms and accents during one of those interviews from the early days), but she seems to have become a little more real and down to earth in her old age. I actually thought she was pretty cool in her latter day observations about Dylan. There's no doubt that she probably knows him as well as anyone. JimK ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Umphrey's in NYC -- Yesss! Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:08:47 -0400 Tix for 2 shows at Irving Plaza 11/18 & 19 (the Friday & Saturday before Thanksgiving) just went on sale today. It will be a busy week between these shows and the Phil shows in Newark on Tues and Weds of the following week. DB ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: (NDC) Bug Man goin' down? Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:17:37 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:57:06 GMT, bigamps wrote: > > >http://tinyurl.com/dg43a > >By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer > >WASHINGTON - A Texas grand jury on Wednesday charged Rep. >Tom DeLay and two political associates with conspiracy in a campaign >finance scheme, an indictment that could force him to step down as House >majority leader. >... >House Republican Party rules require leaders who are indicted to >temporarily step aside from their leadership posts. >... >DeLay has denied committing any crime and accused the Democratic >district attorney leading the investigation, Ronnie Earle, of pursuing >the case for political motives. >... >Democrats have kept up a crescendo of criticism of DeLay's ethics, >citing three times last year that the House ethics committee admonished >DeLay for his conduct. >... And so it begins..... JimK ------------------------------ From: "Gabe Grall" Subject: Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:16:23 GMT As a bona fide Katrina Survior, I think "Benefit" concerts like this one are a ripoff. Just who the hell is "The New Orleans Musicians Clinic" anyway ? I'm sure Greg is a member in good standing. Telethons, Benefit Concerts and the like do nothing to help the true survivors of this Hurricane. Any money you send to The Red Cross only benefits The Red Cross. In the 9 days I spent in Gulfport waiting for rescue the ONLY organization providing any help was The Salvation Army. FEMA and The Red Cross were nowhere to be seen. You want to help a Hurricane Survivor ? Mail me a dollar. G.R.Grall 1903 Spruce Bentonville, AR 72712 "Greg Sasso" wrote in message news:1127846134.692088.199460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Looks pretty great. This is from the Summerstage site. > > Wednesday, September 28, 2005 >>From 4:00 PM to 10:00 PM > Central Park SummerStage > The 20th anniversary season wraps with a Benefit Concert FROM the Heart > of New York City TO the Heart of New Orleans on September 28, 2005. > > > Admission is free with a Suggested Donation of $25.00 - all net > proceeds will donated to the New Orleans Musicians' Clinic. Doors open > at 4:00, Show starts at 5:30pm. New Orleans Cuisine provided by Blue > Ribbon and Jacques Imo's. T-shirts and screen printing provided by > Amalgamated Culture Works, Burlington, Vermont. All T-shirt proceeds > benefit New Orleans Musicians' Clinic. Amalgamated Culture Works > > > Net proceeds of Snapple and soft drink purchases at Soul to Soul will > also benefit New Orleans Musicians' Clinic. Have a drink! > > Featured Artists include: Cassandra Wilson, Allen Toussaint, Ivan > Neville, Dr. John, Angelique Kidjo, Lou Reed with Mike Rathke, Lori > Anderson, Cory Glover, Vernon Reid, Hubert Sumlin, DJ Logic, Soulive, > Dar Williams, Drive By Truckers, J Mascis, Bettye Lavette, Charlie > Hunter, Christian McBride, Rock'n Dopsie, Rob Wasserman and Tony > Thunder Smith (list in formation) > ------------------------------ From: fmilews1@swarthmore.edu (flat9) Subject: Re: the strangest of places... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:18:35 GMT Not all that strange, but a pleasant surprise: Comcast On-Demand has JGB doing Deal and Run for the Roses in the Music>Concert section. I think it's running till 9/30 They had Grisman Quintet a few weeks back. Frank ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Flying Spaghetti Monster Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:20:45 -0400 Thus spake scarletbgonias@hotmail.com... > Brew wrote: > > "Apparently there's a theological schism as to whether the FSM is made > of > linguine or fettucini. " > > What, not Angel Hair? I only follow these things so closely. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find an Angel Hair sect. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:25:22 GMT "Ray" wrote in message news:1127887264.920279.125160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Things have gotten so odious under this Adminstration that even some > hardcore Repubs are finally getting disgusted. Funny how you'd never > know that from the rhetoric of the hardcore see-no-evil, > blame-anyyone-and-anything-else Bushies around here though. > > Ray That's the nature of the beast, fanatics willfully blind themselves regardless of which end of the spectrum they come from, for every Bush-apologist there is a matching donation from some left-wingnut who thinks 9/11 was planned in the Whitehouse basement. I read a bunch of newsgroups, and in some suggesting that the invasion of Iraq was anything less than a brilliant and vital strategic move results in a blowtorch reaction, meanwhile, in r.m.gd the counter-wingnuts are trying to figure out how BushCo was able to intentionally *aim* Katrina at an area administered by Dem politicians who might have a teensy tiny bit of a problem with corruption and incompetence but not really enough to be worth mentioning. I'd laugh if I wasn't tempted to cry instead. Now Playing: Bob Dylan -- "Bye and Bye" ------------------------------ From: "Greg Sasso" Subject: Re: Umphrey's in NYC -- Yesss! Date: 28 Sep 2005 11:26:25 -0700 These shows will sell out in advance. No question. I've seen a bunch of UM recently, all of it pretty awesome. ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: 28 Sep 2005 11:26:28 -0700 JimK wrote: > > IIRC, Seeger said he was pissed because the sound was so bad that > nobody could understand any of the words. One of the others > interviewed said he thought Pete was upset with the sound because his > father had a hearing problem and was bothered by the sound. There have > been a lot of rumors over the years about Seeger's disdain for Dylan's > electric music, but I'm not sure any have ever been confirmed. > Of course he did what any person would do when their father's hearing aid is having trouble, he picks up an axe to cut off Dylan's vocals. Or maybe he realized later that he is an egomaniacal control freak and tried to put a different spin on events after the fact. Hmmm, I wonder which is true? ------------------------------ From: "Greg Sasso" Subject: Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. Date: 28 Sep 2005 11:27:46 -0700 I'm no member. I just thought it looked like something the newsgroup might appreciate. ------------------------------ From: "Josh" Subject: Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:32:54 GMT "Gabe Grall" wrote in message news:X5B_e.600$4h2.182@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > As a bona fide Katrina Survior, I think "Benefit" concerts like this one > are a ripoff. Just who the hell is "The New Orleans Musicians Clinic" > anyway ? I'm sure Greg is a member in good standing. > > Telethons, Benefit Concerts and the like do nothing to help the true > survivors of this Hurricane. Any money you send to The Red Cross only > benefits The Red Cross. In the 9 days I spent in Gulfport waiting for > rescue the ONLY organization providing any help was The Salvation Army. > FEMA and The Red Cross were nowhere to be seen. I've been intrigued by the little banners that MTV runs once in a while that say "A donation of $100 to the Salvation Army will feed a family of 4 for two days." What the hell are these people eating?! Maine Lobster? We're a family of 3, and $75 (spent frugally) could last us close to a week. -Josh ------------------------------ From: "Josh" Subject: Re: the strangest of places... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:34:19 GMT "flat9" wrote in message news:433addeb.191805968@news.interprise.net... > Not all that strange, but a pleasant surprise: > Comcast On-Demand has JGB doing Deal and Run for the Roses in the > Music>Concert section. > I think it's running till 9/30 > > They had Grisman Quintet a few weeks back. Thanks for the tip! -Josh ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:37:38 -0700 "JimK" wrote in message news:famlj1lggjj0ahs5pbdbsfs70kft9d6u8f@4ax.com... > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:08:40 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" > wrote: > >> >>"Peter_Wimsey" wrote in message >>news:dhehb1$vma$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu... >>> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> That folkie crowd was one stuck-up and snobby bunch. Any deviation >>>> from >>>> the accepted norm of acoustic folk perfection, any lyrics that spoke to >>>> anything other than civil rights and world peace and labor organizing >>>> was >>>> automatically assumed to be a threat to the genre. >> >>> I didn't get that at all. >> >>They hated that he was writing about individuals instead of "the >>movement". >>That was explicitly stated in the film. Who cares about some kid going >>out >>on his own like a rolling stone? We're all supposed to be together! >>Seeger >>was almost apoplectic in the film as he explained his anger over this at >>the >>time. To think that one of us would write about an individual breaking >>away >>from norm. For shame! > IIRC, Seeger said he was pissed because the sound was so bad that > nobody could understand any of the words. One of the others > interviewed said he thought Pete was upset with the sound because his > father had a hearing problem and was bothered by the sound. There have > been a lot of rumors over the years about Seeger's disdain for Dylan's > electric music, but I'm not sure any have ever been confirmed. Guess you missed the show. Seeger is on film grimacing as he utters the horrible words "rock and roll" and how Dylan dared to play that total crap. He complained about the sound too, but he simply hated all music other than his own. Its very clear in the show. Baez is in the show grimacing as she mentions "the blues", as if it were a disease. Seeger also commented on Dylan writing about individuals instead of about all the happy people in the movement going forward together like they're supposed to. He was clearly disgusted to the bone by the change in Dylan's lyrical content. >>> Many of Dylan's tunes were not about these things, and Pete and Joan saw >>> the transcendence of his stuff. I think they felt that the rock scene >>> was >>> the stuck up and snobby bunch, and didn't want to lose their hero to it. >> >>The irony was that they were the stuck up snobs, and while rock was >>clearly >>more commercial, it was also far more original and creative than singing >>This Land is Your Land for the Brazilionth time. >> >>>> They were right. The incredibly sappy Pete Seeger (who apparently saw >>>> himself as some kind of folk music god) and the incredibly annoying >>>> Joan >>>> Baez (ok, she was hot, but still annoying) could never compete >>>> musically >>>> or commercially with Dylan. > This isn't totally accurate, either. Seeger and Baez were pretty > well-established commercial successes, as folkies go, well before > Dylan came along and certainly before he went electric. It is true > that Dylan eventually surpassed them both musically and commercially. > But without their support in his early years, who knows if Dylan would > have ever made it big. Thankfully, he did. I'm not saying Dylan didn't like these people; he loved them at one time. But the show clearly shows how disgusted Seeger became and how jilted Baez felt. Neither were doing anything commercially at the time, although Baez did manage to show up ate every protest for decades. They didn't want to sell records, that wasn't what they were about. They were about politics, Dylan was about making and performing music. >>> I don't think this is fair. Pete Seager is (and probably was then) a >>> wonderful, approachable, and modest person who has done a lot for >>> education and environmental awareness, as well as propagating the folk >>> tradition that we (deadheads) benefit from. >>True enough. Yet his music is grating, annoying, and dated. Never could >>stand that pretentious academic approach to music. Or him. Yecch. > > I'm not a big Seeger fan either, but his contributions to music and > politics have to be recognized. I recognize them. I also recognize that for me his music is insipid garbage and always has been. Lame. >>> Now, I can't stand Joan Baez's singing, but you can't take away her >>> contribution either. Even Dylan would tell you both these things. >> >>She did her thing for a while and it was fresh. It stayed right there and >>didn't change for decades. She really wasn't about music anyway, she use >>it >>to advance her politcal beliefs. Dylan was about what he wrote and played >>and performing that music, not some movement that he had to adhere to. >>That's why in the film they explained that he didn't want Baez to share a >>stage with him because she wanted to do a bunch of protesty political >>stuff >>instead of just playing music. He wouldn't let her on. She was pissed. >> >>>> Jealousy and envy. >> >>> No, short-sightedness and possessiveness. >> >>Jealousy and envy and shortsightedness and possessiveness. >> >>EGBH > Joan Baez can sure be annoying at times (note her phony, intellectual > speaking mannerisms and accents during one of those interviews from > the early days), but she seems to have become a little more real and > down to earth in her old age. I actually thought she was pretty cool > in her latter day observations about Dylan. There's no doubt that she > probably knows him as well as anyone. I'd bang her now. EGBH ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .