From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #402 Dead-Flames Digest #402, Volume #48 Sun, 25 Sep 05 02:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: 4-video collection set (new) on ebay ("Steve Terry") nothing about shower heads, though (NDC) (band beyond description) Re: Failure (band beyond description) Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... (kpnnews@yahoo.com) OMFG! Even Whoraldo get's it!!! ("pv34pv3p") Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... ("grtflmark") Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... ("grtflmark") Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... ("grtflmark") Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline ("marklaw") Re: bush's waterloo ("yakuza") Re: bush's waterloo ("yakuza") Re: OMFG! Even Whoraldo get's it!!! ("frndthdevl") Tellurideans love their ganja (NDC) ("band beyond description") N.Z. electronic voting glitch -- let this be a lesson to the U.S. (NDC) ("band beyond description") Rex show tonight... ("Rupert") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: 4-video collection set (new) on ebay Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:01:49 -0500 "gary" wrote in message news:_f2dnQI03tWYnaveRVn-iw@adelphia.com... > hey now, > i'm selling my 4-video collection set, because it's on VHS. its on ebay, > the opening bid is only $15. 3 of the vids are still in the shrink wrap. > I > watched Dead Ahead just one time. > > included is Dead Ahead, Downhill from here, Ticket to New Years, and > Grateful Dead movie. > > the item number is 6435957191. > > peace > > Wanna trade? I got a bunch of Maxells to offer in kind. ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: nothing about shower heads, though (NDC) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:21:38 +0900 http://www.globalcompassion.com/cgi-bin/postcardjw.cgi?image=/images2/toilets.jpg -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Failure Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:22:33 +0900 On 2005-09-25 03:51:02 +0900, Steve Lenier said: > in article 1127583937.914840.315230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, marklaw at > mkalina@ameritech.net wrote on 9/24/05 10:45 AM: > >> Google "Failure" and see what the first hit is. >> > > > and notice the 2nd one, too. interesting that these two would end up side by > side in this context. > > Steve i think partisans on both sides are playing tricks with Web page metadata. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... Date: 24 Sep 2005 19:39:36 -0700 Walter Karmazyn wrote: > kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > > >>grtflmark wrote: > >> > >>>.....by the way - my wife and I enjoyed the hell out of David Nelson > >>>and the Papermill Creek Rounders with Banana last Wednesday Nite at > >>>Sweetwater!! -- So thanks, much from both us us, Shelly! > >>> > >>>....I especially loved the version of "Diamond Joe" they played at the > >>>end of the first set!! I've really liked that song since Dylan did in > >>>the strange movie he made recently...... i > >>> > >>>.... I think I saw Joe there - but no one messed with us and we enjoyed > >>>the hell out of the evening!! Great recommendations! > >> > >>Wow, what a disappointing ending. > > > > > > We got in to SF last night. We are staying near Turk and Broderick (?) > > As we were driving in I saw Fulton St. Is that the Airplane Fulton St? > > Anyway, I will be wearing my usual Bull Durham Blues shirts. So, if you > > see me feel free to say hello or hurl insults. Today Sonoma. I'll > > report > > back later. Unfortunately, there was no way we were going to go to the > > Rex benefit. BTW - I think Toronado will be on monday and tuesday. > > Anyone know of a good nature hike? :) > > > > Kurt > > > > Mt Tam has tons of trails, how much time did you want to spend hiking? I was just goofing about Joe's nature hikes. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: OMFG! Even Whoraldo get's it!!! Date: 24 Sep 2005 19:48:46 -0700 Never been a fan...But I can't wait for the transcript of our favorite dipship whackin'the profoundly greater dipship libs tonight on At Large... pv34pv3p(So much for Joe's theory...) ------------------------------ From: "grtflmark" Subject: Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... Date: 24 Sep 2005 21:03:10 -0700 >Wow, what a disappointing ending. >Mark ......sorry, dude - but, sometimes the truth is boring.... of course, that doesn't always mean its not fun! ------------------------------ From: "grtflmark" Subject: Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... Date: 24 Sep 2005 21:06:19 -0700 >We got in to SF last night. We are staying near Turk and >Broderick (?) As we were driving in I saw Fulton St. Is that the >Airplane Fulton St? Anyway, I will be wearing my usual Bull >Durham Blues shirts. So, if you see me feel free to say hello or >hurl insults. Today Sonoma. I'll report back later. Unfortunately, >there was no way we were going to go to the Rex benefit. BTW -> I think Toronado will be on monday and tuesday. >Anyone know of a good nature hike? :) >Kurt ........ back in the Midwest, Kurt - sorry we missed you.... if we HAD spotted each other there - Ida bought you a round and hopefully enjoyed some of the wonderful music and culture there.... ------------------------------ From: "grtflmark" Subject: Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... Date: 24 Sep 2005 21:08:35 -0700 DG Sep 24, 12:38 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead From: DG - Find messages by this author Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:38:14 -0700 Local: Sat, Sep 24 2005 12:38 pm Subject: Re: San Francisco Deadheads..... Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Oct 1, 12:38 pm). - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - kpnn...@yahoo.com wrote: >Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> grtflmark wrote: >> > .....by the way - my wife and I enjoyed the hell out of David Nelson >> > and the Papermill Creek Rounders with Banana last Wednesday Nite at >> > Sweetwater!! -- So thanks, much from both us us, Shelly! >> > ....I especially loved the version of "Diamond Joe" they played at the >> > end of the first set!! I've really liked that song since Dylan did in >> > the strange movie he made recently...... i >> > .... I think I saw Joe there - but no one messed with us and we enjoyed >> > the hell out of the evening!! Great recommendations! >> Wow, what a disappointing ending. >We got in to SF last night. We are staying near Turk and Broderick (?) >As we were driving in I saw Fulton St. Is that the Airplane Fulton St? >Anyway, I will be wearing my usual Bull Durham Blues shirts. So, if you >see me feel free to say hello or hurl insults. Today Sonoma. I'll >report back later. >Going to Bromberg tonight in Petaluma? .....saw posters for this performance and for Dickie Betts while we were "doing the tourist thing" on Haight Street - damn sorry I missed 'em both! ------------------------------ From: "marklaw" Subject: Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline Date: 24 Sep 2005 21:40:43 -0700 After watching this again I am convinced that Run for the Roses and Touch of Grey are essentially the same song. ------------------------------ From: "yakuza" Crossposted-To: rec.music.dylan,nyc.politics,alt.politics.turn-left Subject: Re: bush's waterloo Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 05:23:49 GMT Don't hold your breath. "ARON KAY" wrote in message news:hQ%Ye.820$tX3.89@trndny06... > he and his cronies need a nuremburg-style tribuanl > > "yakuza" wrote in message > news:qM%Ye.2942$vw6.1323@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> His waterloo will be the 8 year term limit, just like Clinton and Reagan. >> >> "ARON KAY" wrote in message >> news:sK%Ye.369$lW3.297@trndny09... >> > ITS LONG OVERDUE FOR A GEORGE BUSH FUNERAL MARCH!!!IN THE POLITICAL > SENSE >> > OF >> > THE WORD ITS TIME FOR THE MASSES TO RISE UP AND SING, "HAPPY FUNERAL > DAY" >> > TO >> > THE TUNE OF "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" >> > >> > aron pieman kay >> > http://www.pieman.org >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "yakuza" Crossposted-To: rec.music.dylan,nyc.politics,alt.politics.turn-left Subject: Re: bush's waterloo Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 05:24:21 GMT On second thought, hold your breath. "ARON KAY" wrote in message news:%wjZe.607$j_3.287@trndny07... > that is not enough!!!bush and his stooges need to be arrested, tried > before > a people's tribunal...they need to be sentenced to working off a big debt > in > the pot fields!!! > PLANTING, NURTURING, PICKING AND PACKAGING THE GANJA!!! ALL BY HAND!!! > "yakuza" wrote in message > news:qM%Ye.2942$vw6.1323@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> His waterloo will be the 8 year term limit, just like Clinton and Reagan. >> >> "ARON KAY" wrote in message >> news:sK%Ye.369$lW3.297@trndny09... >> > ITS LONG OVERDUE FOR A GEORGE BUSH FUNERAL MARCH!!!IN THE POLITICAL > SENSE >> > OF >> > THE WORD ITS TIME FOR THE MASSES TO RISE UP AND SING, "HAPPY FUNERAL > DAY" >> > TO >> > THE TUNE OF "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" >> > >> > aron pieman kay >> > http://www.pieman.org >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: OMFG! Even Whoraldo get's it!!! Date: 24 Sep 2005 22:49:50 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > Never been a fan...But I can't wait for the transcript of our favorite > dipship whackin'the profoundly greater dipship libs tonight on At > Large... > > pv34pv3p(So much for Joe's theory...) what you missed the part where he whacked the dipshit republican congressman from looeezeanna? Where he said he ws tired of both parties trying to spin these tragedies? peace jeff Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth, Blowing down the backroads headin' south. Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth, You're an idiot, babe. It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe. rz ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Tellurideans love their ganja (NDC) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:28:32 +0900 bc-pot //Pot Unenforcement Goes on the Ballot// (Telluride, Colo.) By Scott Gold (c) 2005, Los Angeles Times TELLURIDE, Colo. Nestled in the San Juan Mountains, home to moneyed hippies, artists and nature buffs, Telluride is a live-and-let-live kind of town. A sign assures visitors that they are in a ``civil liberties safe zone.'' The 15-mph speed limit, which applies in most of the town, is largely enforced by placing a police hat on the tip of a stick and perching it in the driver's seat of a squad car. In the center of town is the Freebox, a collection of wooden bins where people swap bootleg concert tapes, alpine gear and more, regulated only by the principles of karma. So perhaps it should come as no surprise that although Telluride cannot legalize marijuana, it may do the next closest thing: officially declare possession of pot for personal use to be the town's ``lowest law enforcement priority.'' In August, the Town Council voted 6 to 0 to put the issue on the Nov. 1 ballot. Residents will be asked whether to instruct town marshals the local law enforcement to make the investigation, arrest and prosecution of marijuana possession their lowest priority. The proposal applies only to the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana by people 18 or older. Several cities already have what proponents term ``sensible'' pot ordinances, most notably Seattle, where voters in 2003 approved an initiative to make the possession of small amounts of marijuana law enforcement's lowest priority. Still, Telluride's vote will be closely watched, experts said, because it is the first marijuana ballot proposal since the Supreme Court ruled in June that the federal government could enforce its zero-tolerance policy on pot, even in the 10 states that permit its use for medical purposes. Colorado is among those states; the others are Alaska, California, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Executive Director Allen F. St. Pierre of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws said the fact that the Supreme Court did not strike down the state laws seemed to suggest ``concern by justices about thwarting local control, local values.'' People who favor relaxing marijuana laws many of whom believe the government wastes public resources by targeting low-level drug offenders hope Telluride sets a national example, St. Pierre said. ``The great disconnect at the policy level is here in Washington, D.C.,'' he said. ``Congress is frozen in a sort of reefer madness that states and localities are not.'' But Calvina Fay, executive director of the Drug Free America Foundation, said the agenda behind local initiatives ``clearly is the legalization of drugs. ... They have made it very clear that they are going to keep pushing.'' Her argument has gained more traction here recently than it might have a few years ago. A famously fun-loving town with a year-round population of about 2,000 and an ``in-season'' population close to 10,000, Telluride has become a ritzy resort in recent years and is peppered with log cabin mansions and swanky restaurants that require reservations even if you can still wear flip-flops or the T-shirt you hiked in all day. But the town's newer arrivals have tempered its freewheeling ways. ``Telluride is really in transition,'' Chief Marshal Mary Heller said. J. Michael Dorsey, who served in several high-profile federal government posts before he retired, moved to town a year ago. He was the assistant secretary for public and Indian housing during the Reagan administration, and sat on the national drug policy board. And he has become a leading critic of the Telluride proposal. Dorsey said the proposal was misguided, partly because voters should not establish law enforcement priorities. He also objected to a second portion of the initiative, which would declare that Telluride would approve if Colorado decided to legalize, tax and regulate marijuana use. That would ``tell people in town that we think marijuana should be legal, and it will tell people who visit that we think marijuana should be legal,'' he said. ``I think that's the wrong message to give to families in town, and I think it's the wrong message to give to families who are coming here.'' To supporters, the proposal reflects the ethos here. Much of the town seems to celebrate the fact that the word ``high'' can refer both to its lung-clenching altitude it sits 8,750 feet above sea level and to the heady smoke that wafts intermittently through town. One bustling restaurant is called Baked in Telluride; a popular T-shirt reads: ``Honey, I think the whole town is high.'' ``In Telluride, we tend to respect an adult's right to make decisions for themselves, within reason,'' said resident Ernest Eich, 30, a leading backer of the proposal. ``I think this has a very good chance.'' Eich said that with fewer marshals in town three of the department's 10 positions are vacant those on patrol should pursue crimes that people find more worrisome than marijuana possession. Heller, the chief marshal, said the initiative wouldn't have much practical impact. Marijuana possession, she said, typically is charged only as a secondary offense, such as when an officer pulls someone over on suspicion of drunken driving and happens to find a bag of pot. Even then it is treated under Colorado law as a petty offense, similar to a traffic citation. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: N.Z. electronic voting glitch -- let this be a lesson to the U.S. (NDC) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:55:38 +0900 BC-AS-POL--NewZealand-El 09-23 0295 NZ- BC-AS-POLNewZealand-El 09-23 0295 asian BC-AS-POLNew Zealand-Elections NZ election official plays down absentee voting computer glitch WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) An unknown number of the absentee votes which might decide the outcome of New Zealand's cliffhanger general election may have been invalidated by computer glitches, Wellington's Dominion Post newspaper reported Saturday. The paper said voting forms downloaded from the Electoral Office Web site by New Zealanders casting ballots overseas may have been damaged by voters' computer software. More than 200,000 absentee or ``special votes'' have still to be counted before the final outcome of the Sept. 17 election is declared on Oct. 1. On election-night figures the center-left Labour Party of ruling Prime Minister Helen Clark held a one-seat majority over the opposition National Party in the 122-seat legislature but did not win an outright majority. The Dominion Post said as many as 13,000 voting papers downloaded and faxed to vote counters may have been corrupted by voters' computer setups. But electoral officials played down the significance of the glitch, saying voters were able to fix it with an updated version of the software. ``There have been some voters, when they have printed the (voting) paper, have found all the parties have been blanked out,'' assistant chief electoral officer Robert Peden said. ``In that case they have contacted the help desk (and) the desk has assisted them to get an updated version of (the software) and they have been able to print the paper out properly.'' Clark and National Party leader Don Brash held preliminary talks with minor parties last week aimed at brokering coalition deals for the next three-year parliamentary term. AP-NY-09-23-05 2108EDT ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Rex show tonight... Date: 25 Sep 2005 01:29:23 -0700 We got there right at show time, so it was really fucking crowded and the lawn was totally packed. In fact, I've never seen the lawn so crowded for ANY show...they completely oversold the place. But then there were hundreds, if not thousands, of people jammed into the aisles in the "reserved" seats, as well as the main walkway. And everyone was smoking cigarettes!!! What a treat, for a no-smoking facility. The rented security at this gig was a fucking joke...I actually saw one woman sitting on the railing half-way through the show, talking on her cellphone. The crowd seemed to be in a frenzy to spend as much money inside the gig as humanly possible. The $40 posters sold out within a couple of hours, and the t-shirs were all gone by the time we left. And of course, the beer was flying! Now I just want to know, why does it say on the sign outside that you can't bring in bottles, then they sell you beer in a bottle inside the show? That you can walk around with!! I can't tell you how many times I've lost my footing on bottles at the Fillmore, because someone was too lazy to go over and toss it. My heart goes out the poor tapers, too. They were forced to set up at the base of the lawn, which is okay if you have some really good mics. But, the aisleway was completely unpatroled directly in front of the tapers, so it probably sounded just exactly like a rowdy cocktail party full of hippies. We found the family section, over on one end of the lawn, and settled in. Great show, from what I remember of it. I'm on Vicodin for a pinched nerve in my back. It was great to see Merle Saunders sitting up there with Melvin during the "JGB" set. I still don't think that Trey can sing to save his life. Donna was fantastic, as were Gloria and Jackie. Greatest moment of the show: When the PA got turned off, and it took forever for them to notify the sound guy, who was UNDERNEATH it!! Somebody's looking for work on Monday, guaranteed! ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .