From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #400 Dead-Flames Digest #400, Volume #48 Sat, 24 Sep 05 14:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: Gore 08 ??? (JC Martin) Re: Spare lanes ("pv34pv3p") Run For The Roses - Shoreline ("marklaw") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Failure (Steve Lenier) Re: Spare lanes (Tom Beck) Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! ("Brett") Re: Spare lanes (JC Martin) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("pv34pv3p") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("pv34pv3p") Re: Spare lanes ("pv34pv3p") Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Spare lanes (JC Martin) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("John Hanson") Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline ("pv34pv3p") Re: Spare lanes ("pv34pv3p") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... (Cassady Ginsberg) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! ("yoker") Re: Gore 08 ??? ("Carlisle") Re: Gore 08 ??? ("Carlisle") Re: Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! (Steve S) Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) ("Steve Terry") Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) (Wayne) Re: Gore 08 ??? (Tom Beck) Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? ("YoMama") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("pv34pv3p") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("pv34pv3p") Re: Gore 08 ??? (JC Martin) Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? ("Mizshely") Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? ("Mizshely") Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) ("k sturm") Re: Gore 08 ??? ("pv34pv3p") Re: Gore 08 ??? (JC Martin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:45:28 -0700 Carlisle wrote: > > Hey jizzlobber- > I've noticed no one has taken the screen name--Stagger Lee. > Hurry!!! ;> I am listening to Murder Ballads now. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds is my second favorite band ever. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:24 GMT pv34pv3p wrote: > The thought that regardless of who won, most of America could actually > live with( it ) is sorta novel... I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national security issues. This whole "we can't cut and run" rhetoric is exactly what we'll have to end up doing, though certainly we won't use that type of language in the future. Iraq is Iran's present and China's future newest ally, not the U.S.'s. We basically paid for a war which doesn't benefit the U.S. other than a few multi-nation business interests, unless of course you believe Iraq was a terrorist threat in the first place. I sure as hell don't. I think they're more of a terrorist threat today than under Saddam. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:46:27 -0700 >The beach in Matamoros is an awesome place to >hang!###### >I guess your brother has as much class you! He's 6' 6" 290 red and white...so not many folks fuck with him...Even in Mexico... As far as class??? Who knows??? Unlike looter dude, we both tend to actually pay for our cerveza... pv34pv3p(Thinkin' Bro's managing just fine...) ------------------------------ From: "marklaw" Subject: Run For The Roses - Shoreline Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:49:21 -0700 Was just watching the Shoreline show. Some of the riffs in Run for the Roses sound like they are right out of Touch of Grey, don't they? ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:49:13 GMT "John Hanson"> wrote in message So far it's all been bullshit. John H. ************************** Isn't a friend's account considered .....hearsay? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:51:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Failure From: Steve Lenier in article 1127583937.914840.315230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, marklaw at mkalina@ameritech.net wrote on 9/24/05 10:45 AM: > Google "Failure" and see what the first hit is. > and notice the 2nd one, too. interesting that these two would end up side by side in this context. Steve ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:58:40 -0500 pv34pv3p wrote: >>The beach in Matamoros is an awesome place to >>hang!###### > > >>I guess your brother has as much class you! > > > He's 6' 6" 290 red and white...so not many folks fuck with him...Even > in Mexico... > > As far as class??? Who knows??? > > Unlike looter dude, we both tend to actually pay for our cerveza... > > pv34pv3p(Thinkin' Bro's managing just fine...) > I prefer the west coast of Mexico. Maz, PV and Z town are great places for hanging out, eating and above all else fishing (especially Z). Tom ------------------------------ From: "Brett" Subject: Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:53:50 -0700 It appears to me that Bobby and or Cameron are using my likeness to sell tickets to Ratdog shows: http://www.onlineseats.com/bob-weir-and-rat-dog-tickets/index.asp This is really pissing me off... Brett ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:54:42 GMT pv34pv3p wrote: >>The beach in Matamoros is an awesome place to >>hang!###### > > >>I guess your brother has as much class you! > > > He's 6' 6" 290 red and white...so not many folks fuck with him...Even > in Mexico... That ain't gonna do him much good if someone wants to wet him up. Being big has its disadvantages after all. The tough guy act can get ya in trouble, even with the likes of me son. Hommie don't play...even if I stank patulli, and ain't a member of the NRA. -JC ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:55:02 -0700 >And I thought it was "Elephants" that never forget... Lot's of stealin' from each other's playbooks lately... Bush---200 Billion GiveAway... Dems--Bitchin; about it... pv34pv3p(Crazy shit huh???) ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 24 Sep 2005 11:56:56 -0700 >Isn't a friend's account considered >....hearsay? Only if he's a Democrat... pv34pv3p ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:00:07 -0700 >That ain't gonna do him much good if someone wants to wet him up. Being >big has its disadvantages after all. The tough guy act can get ya in >trouble, even with the likes of me son. >Hommie don't play...even if I stank patulli, and ain't a member of the >NRA. Forgot to mention that we both tend to tip well... pv34pv3p(Try it some time...) ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:04:21 GMT jizzlobber@intergate.com wrote: > Ken Fortenberry wrote: >>And you're whining about Sweetbac. Dave Kelly plays an asshole >>on Usenet for his own amusement. He does it so well some, myself >>included, think he must be an asshole in real life too, but I've >>never met the guy so what do I know. In any case it's ridiculous >>to get upset at a Usenet persona. If you want to get upset at >>someone you need to get upset at whoever named you "jizzlobber." > > > I am an asshole too. I try to pretend I am shy but its the real reason > I don't have any friends. Fine, you're an asshole. Welcome to the club, but here's the deal, assholes don't whine. Whining is unbecoming of an asshole. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:07:37 GMT pv34pv3p wrote: >>That ain't gonna do him much good if someone wants to wet him up. Being >>big has its disadvantages after all. The tough guy act can get ya in >>trouble, even with the likes of me son. > > >>Hommie don't play...even if I stank patulli, and ain't a member of the >>NRA. > > > Forgot to mention that we both tend to tip well... > > pv34pv3p(Try it some time...) I'm married to a former waitress. I don't have a choice in the matter. -JC ------------------------------ From: "John Hanson" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:08:45 GMT "pv34pv3p" wrote in message news:1127586958.670667.306370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Yes, I know the Doc that I referenced...and I know the guy that sent > sent the post to me...and he knows both of us...He actually said > Remember Doc Johnson? Here's what he's been posting... > Hey genius - Doc "Johnston" from Mississippi is the one who posted the story. Doc "Johnson" from Iowa is the one who sent it to you. So, your pal Doc Johnson should have said, "Remember Doc Johnston? Here's what he's been posting..." John H. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:16:09 -0700 Used to happened all the time...Like stirrin' a big ol pot of soup...recognizable chunks would sometimes appear on the surface... The St. Stephen Jam in the wiggle towards Last Time (12/15 or 12/18/94) smoked!!! You can tell it 'bout drove Bob nuts... pv34pv3p ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:18:55 -0700 >I'm married to a former waitress. I don't have a choice in the matter. >-JC Forgot to mention the potential downside...;~) pv34pv3p(Hope your as happy with yours as I am mine...) ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:57:23 -0400 pv34pv3p wrote: > > Yes, I know the Doc that I referenced...and I know the guy that sent > sent the post to me...and he knows both of us...He actually said > Remember Doc Johnson? Here's what he's been posting... He's got a pretty extensive product line as well... http://www.docjohnson.com/main.aspx > And as I pointed out, the guy that sent it to me is a Dem...Nothing > wrong with that...Other than I shoulda read it more carefully and > Snoped it... > > pv34pv3p(YoMama's hair has grown 0.00001 inches since my last > prediction) ------------------------------ From: Cassady Ginsberg Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:25:22 +0000 (UTC) "pv34pv3p" } However, I know both of 'em... Don't feed the lying, sack of shit troll... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:45:23 GMT Cassady Ginsberg wrote: > "pv34pv3p" > > } However, I know both of 'em... > > Don't feed the lying, sack of shit troll... Amen. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: "yoker" Subject: Re: Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:46:17 -0700 Brett wrote: > It appears to me that Bobby and or Cameron are using my likeness to > sell tickets to Ratdog shows: > > http://www.onlineseats.com/bob-weir-and-rat-dog-tickets/index.asp > > This is really pissing me off... > > Brett You can, but .... they/Bob Weir would just countersue. An out-of-court settlement may be more apropriate. The first two pictures are of "BOB WEIRD" not BOB WEIR. Are you really "BOB WEIRD" or the famous/infamous Brett Misner? Yoker. ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:47:23 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > pv34pv3p wrote: > > The thought that regardless of who won, most of America could actually > > live with( it ) is sorta novel... > > > I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national > security issues. This whole "we can't cut and run" rhetoric is exactly > what we'll have to end up doing, though certainly we won't use that type > of language in the future. Iraq is Iran's present and China's future > newest ally, not the U.S.'s. We basically paid for a war which doesn't > benefit the U.S. other than a few multi-nation business interests, > unless of course you believe Iraq was a terrorist threat in the first > place. I sure as hell don't. I think they're more of a terrorist > threat today than under Saddam. > > Peas, > JC Can I agree with you and still seem controversial, JC?? ;) Really in this case, I do. cheers, Carrie ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:01:02 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > pv34pv3p wrote: > > The thought that regardless of who won, most of America could actually > > live with( it ) is sorta novel... > > > I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national > security issues. This whole "we can't cut and run" rhetoric is exactly > what we'll have to end up doing, though certainly we won't use that type > of language in the future. Iraq is Iran's present and China's future > newest ally, not the U.S.'s. We basically paid for a war which doesn't > benefit the U.S. other than a few multi-nation business interests, > unless of course you believe Iraq was a terrorist threat in the first > place. I sure as hell don't. I think they're more of a terrorist > threat today than under Saddam. > > Peas, > JC Can I agree with you and still seem controversial, JC?? ;) In this case I pretty much do. The invasion of Iraq was built on a tenuous premise. And the price will be high. Still, I pray/chant/sing that the alarmists/neo-cons/optimists who got us into this war weren't all wrong since we are there and ultimate sacrifices have been made and we aren't leaving anytime soon. peace and awe, Carrie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Look like I might have to SUE RATDOG! From: Steve S Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:07:59 -0500 "Brett" wrote in news:1127588030.140108.66590 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > It appears to me that Bobby and or Cameron are using my likeness to > sell tickets to Ratdog shows: > > http://www.onlineseats.com/bob-weir-and-rat-dog-tickets/index.asp > > This is really pissing me off... > > Brett > > You really are a clueless fuck, Brett. Can you tell me how Bob is affiliated with that site? Because I'm sure if he was his name would be properly spelled. You sure do love to sue, don't you, Brett. First it was SNL for having a character named Breck Meysner. You have an ongoing battle with the LAFD because one of their helicopters dropped a tiger shark in your pool (you really should check out snopes.com before you start claiming a debunked urban legend happened to you). Next you'll be suing a used car salesman fron Jersey cause he has the same name as you. PS - wasn't your movie supposed to be out last year? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:22:14 -0500 > Steve Terry, how 'bout you? Do people in your part of Indiana eat > possums? Deep in these hills of southern Indiana? Probably...but not me. I do know thought possum hunting is big in these parts. I have tried squirrel way back when I was a kid. My dad did the hunting thing then. I didn't like it much. I've still got his shotgun. Haven't shot it in over 20 years though. ------------------------------ From: TunedInDude@webtv.net (Wayne) Subject: Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:10:44 -0700 Alvin, Theodore, and Simon would be objecting to this post, I'm sure. And the discussion about munching on chipmunk balls must really have them spinning in their graves like rotisserie chickens. Wayne ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:30:54 -0500 Carlisle wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >>pv34pv3p wrote: >> >>>The thought that regardless of who won, most of America could actually >>>live with( it ) is sorta novel... >> >> >>I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national >>security issues. This whole "we can't cut and run" rhetoric is exactly >>what we'll have to end up doing, though certainly we won't use that type >>of language in the future. Iraq is Iran's present and China's future >>newest ally, not the U.S.'s. We basically paid for a war which doesn't >>benefit the U.S. other than a few multi-nation business interests, >>unless of course you believe Iraq was a terrorist threat in the first >>place. I sure as hell don't. I think they're more of a terrorist >>threat today than under Saddam. >> >>Peas, >>JC > > > Can I agree with you and still seem controversial, JC?? ;) > In this case I pretty much do. > The invasion of Iraq was built on a tenuous premise. And the price will > be high. Still, I pray/chant/sing that the alarmists/neo-cons/optimists > who got us into this war weren't all wrong since we are there and > ultimate sacrifices have been made and we aren't leaving anytime soon. > peace and awe, > Carrie I wish it for you, more than just ashes, when your dreams come true. Sooner, probably rather than later I suspect we will cut and run and then our own economy will go to hell with fuel prices sky high. I hope you have plenty of warm clothing. And don't mind walking or riding a bicycle. Tom ------------------------------ From: "YoMama" Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:28:14 -0700 Richard Morris wrote: > wrote in message > news:1127579700.092308.111360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > So Bill may be ineligible to be > > elected to the office but he is not > > ineligible to assume it if needed! > > > > The right leaning Supreme Court > > might look for a reason to disagree. > > The way I read it, if you are not eligible to be presnit ... either because > you lack the requisite citizenship requirements, age, or you have already > done two terms, then you are not eligible to be vice-presnit. The apparent > reason being, of course, that if you are v.p. you might at some point be > called upon to assume the office of the presnitcy. And if you aren't > eligible for the office, that wouldn't work so good. > > Hope this he'ps, > > Richard This being said, how 'bout Gore/Hillary Rodham Clinton? The experience and intellect of Bill Clinton would certainly be within reach. Here's an old (3.28.02) but relevant piece "What if Al Gore Were President Today? Be sure to read to the end... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26999 ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:28:37 -0700 >Hey genius - Doc "Johnston" from Mississippi is the one who posted the >story. Doc "Johnson" from Iowa is the one who sent it to you. So, your pal >Doc Johnson should have said, "Remember Doc Johnston? Here's what he's been >posting..." Start from the top... The "friend" that sent it to me referenced the Doc... I ASS-U-ME'd that he was referring to our common aquaintance... Fuck... pv34pv3p(YoMamma's hair has grown another 0.0001"...) ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:31:41 -0700 >Amen. An astonishing remark from someone subscribed to alt.atheism... pv34pv3p ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:34:03 GMT Carlisle wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >>pv34pv3p wrote: >> >>>The thought that regardless of who won, most of America could actually >>>live with( it ) is sorta novel... >> >> >>I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national >>security issues. This whole "we can't cut and run" rhetoric is exactly >>what we'll have to end up doing, though certainly we won't use that type >>of language in the future. Iraq is Iran's present and China's future >>newest ally, not the U.S.'s. We basically paid for a war which doesn't >>benefit the U.S. other than a few multi-nation business interests, >>unless of course you believe Iraq was a terrorist threat in the first >>place. I sure as hell don't. I think they're more of a terrorist >>threat today than under Saddam. >> >>Peas, >>JC > > > Can I agree with you and still seem controversial, JC?? ;) > Really in this case, I do. See, you really haven't been here long. Agreeing with me IS controversial. I'm a lightning rod for it and I don't even have to try hard at it. Heck, I even offend myself some times. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:34:29 -0700 Does anyone besides me get irritated at seeing the word president abbreviated to presnit? Has this newsgroup adopted Bush-speak now??? Heaven forbid. Personally, I like the idea of a Gore/Clinton ticket but then someone would have to shoot Gore so we could get Bill back in office. I think I prefer Hillary as President and Bill as Vice President. Two intelligent people for the price of one. By the way, last year when Mr. Clinton published his book, I stoof in line all day for the opportunity to shake his hand and get his autograph. It was SO beyond worth it, even with these aging knees and the hot sun beating down on me for several hours. Thus spake, Mizshely ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:36:01 -0700 Pardon my self editing, I STOOD in line all day. What the hell is stoof, only I know and I'm not telling . ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:37:47 GMT "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:dh4cir$2f7g$1@news.iquest.net... >> Steve Terry, how 'bout you? Do people in your part of Indiana eat >> possums? > > Deep in these hills of southern Indiana? Probably...but not me. I do know > thought possum hunting is big in these parts. I have tried squirrel way > back when I was a kid. My dad did the hunting thing then. I didn't like it > much. I've still got his shotgun. Haven't shot it in over 20 years though. > Good, I didn't think you'd either eat possums or like to hunt. Gee, I must be a pretty good judge of character, huh? (if only...) ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: 24 Sep 2005 13:40:30 -0700 >I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national >security issues Can't imagine Richardson having the same problem...as Sec of Energy when shit was flyin' outa Los Alamos to China... pv34pv3p(Might still actually support him if he revealed why?) ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:50:44 GMT pv34pv3p wrote: >>I like McCain, but I find him rather naive when it comes to national >>security issues > > > Can't imagine Richardson having the same problem...as Sec of Energy > when shit was flyin' outa Los Alamos to China... > > pv34pv3p(Might still actually support him if he revealed why?) I don't know why he would know about a criminal act. I certainly don't think he was involved, just like I don't believe Dubya was behind 9/11. That aside, I like Richardson's resume. He'd be a good leader for the times. But I don't think he'll be the nomination. Fucking Democrats aren't so great at pickin' them after all, though it was the right choice to choose Kerry over Dean, who had no shot at against Dubya or anyone else for that matter. -JC ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .