From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #560 Dead-Flames Digest #560, Volume #48 Wed, 12 Oct 05 14:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Beer query (wyeknot) Re: (NDC) Attention Yankee fans (Brad Greer) 4-1-80 ("StabTheBarber") Re: (NDC) Attention Yankee fans ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Libby Scootin' off to the Pen? (NDC) (JimK) Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("pookietooth") Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("frndthdevl") Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: (ndc) Ever Wonder.... (JimK) Re: Ryan Adams done? (Gladys) Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("frndthdevl") Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Arkansas Mother Gives Birth to 16th Child (NDC) ("mjd") Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: (ndc) Ever Wonder.... ("Ray") Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("Andrew Murawa") Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? (brew ziggins) Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Hard ttimes in NE ("Rogues Island's finest") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Beer query Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:03:20 -0400 Brad Greer wrote: > You can get the required effect by "dry-hopping" (dry-hemping?) the > beer with cannabis. This works: During wort boil, simmer finely ground hops-alternative in small pan of vodka for an hour. When extraction is obviously well underway or complete, add several ladles of wort into small pan. Continue to simmer in an effort to boil off vodka. Add small pan of enhanced wort to already chilling main batch of wort. Add yeast, ferment, etc. Effect is there in full force. Matt ------------------------------ From: Brad Greer Subject: Re: (NDC) Attention Yankee fans Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:06:04 -0400 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:29:41 -0700, DG wrote: >He's done just fine. Sure the last ring was 2000 but that doesn't >matter. They are the cream of the crop every year. > No, they aren't. The cream of the crop is the team that wins the World Series by definition. So, the Yankees haven't been the cream of the crop since 2000. Unless you have some other definition of what is the best team in baseball. ------------------------------ From: "StabTheBarber" Subject: 4-1-80 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:10:27 -0400 anone know of any pictures during the Switchey McSwitcher promised land? thanks ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: (NDC) Attention Yankee fans Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:16:48 -0700 Brad Greer wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:29:41 -0700, DG wrote: > >He's done just fine. Sure the last ring was 2000 but that doesn't > >matter. They are the cream of the crop every year. > > > No, they aren't. The cream of the crop is the team that wins the > World Series by definition. The Yankees are more like 1% milk, a month past it's expiration date. Mark ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Libby Scootin' off to the Pen? (NDC) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:17:08 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:14:09 -0400, "The Iron Muffin" wrote: >JimK wrote: >> leftie wrote: > >> > If there's any justice he will be! >> > >> > And Rove will be going too! >> > >> >"by by, baby, by by...." >> >> We want handcuffs and raincoats. > >Keep yer sick, twisted sexual fantasies to yerself! Are there any other kind of sexual fantasies?? JimK ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:17:14 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake pookietooth@netzero.net... > > AirtimeJunkie wrote: > > > Grapefruit Ed > > > > > > > > > > Grapefruit Ed for me too. And not in an ironic way. I'd really like to > > know what makes him tick. > > If Grapefruit Ed were a tree, what kind of tree would he be? > > I, ah, think I know the answer to this one... > How about this: who would win in a knife fight between Grapefruit Ed, Superman, Jesus, and Harry Potter? ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:27:03 -0700 RossMcGibbon wrote: > > We give you Lennon, you give us Shelby & God-boy! > (Please forgive us for sending Graham Nash). > Nothing wrong with Graham's Use to Be A King some of the best Jerry steel EVER! by Graham Nash I used to be a King and everything around me turned to gold I thought I had everything and now I'm left without a hand to hold But it's all right I'm O.K. How are you? For what it's worth I must say I loved you And in my bed late at night, I miss you Someone is going to take my heart But no one is going to break my heart again I used to be a King and everything around me turned to rust It's `cause I built my life on sand And I watched it crumble in the dust But it's all right I'm O.K. and I want to know how you are For what it's worth I must say I loved you as you are And in my bed where are you? Someone is going to take my heart But no one is going to break my heart again I used to be a King and everything around me turned around But I know all I have to do is sing And I'll lift myself way off the ground Yeah, but it's all right I'm O.K. How are you? For what it's worth I must say I loved you And in my bed late at night where are you? Someone is going to take my heart But no one is going to break my heart again Steel Guitar: Jerry Garcia Electric Guitar: David Crosby Lead Vocal & Acoustic Guitar: Graham Nash ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:27:51 -0700 Andrew Murawa wrote: > "Neil X." wrote in message > news:1129090446.955419.168030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > >> Andrew Murawa wrote: > >> > >> Don't start whining about a few injuries now after > >> having been left relatively unscathed during the past two seasons... > > > > > > > > Damn man, last year we lost our 5-time All-Pro cornerback Ty Law. We > > also played more than half the season without Super Bowl MVP Deion > > Branch and All-Pro tackle Matt Light. We lost All-Pro defensive > > tackle > > Richard Seymour for both AFC playoff games. The year before, we lost > > All-Pro linebackers Rosevelt Colvin and Ted Johnson. Don't get me > > started. Was anyone else in the league forced to play wide receivers > > in their defensive secondary last year?? > > Wow, so you lost one guy for the season, a couple guys for half the > season, and another guy for two games, and you had injury problems? Talk > to the Panthers or the Titans, each of whom had at least half of their > starters lost to season-ending injuries... Injuries are a part of the > game, certainly, but by and large, the Pats escaped major injury > problems each of the last two seasons... Holy shit, you weren't kidding! Let me put it this way: you have *got* be fucking kidding! Neil listed only the high(low)lites, the Patriots had HUGE injury issues, on par or more so than anyone but Carolina. They had so many guys missing from the defensive backfield that they played a wide receiver at DB. And they went 14-2. And won the title. In 2003, the Patriots started 45, yes, that's 45! different players. And went 14-2 and won the title. That has to be some kind of record. Mark ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: (ndc) Ever Wonder.... Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:33:38 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:04:04 GMT, JC Martin wrote: >leftie wrote: >> JC Martin wrote: >> >>> leftie wrote: >>> >>>> JC Martin wrote: >>>> >>>>> This war in Iraq stinks not one bit because 2000 soldiers are dead. >>>> >>>> >>>> You best see a doctor, JC. Your olfactory sensors are not working. >>> >>> >>> You really think it's fair to isolate this one sentence without >>> context? Another cheap tactic IMO. Again, I don't think these >>> methods work. >> >> >> You typed the sentence. If it doesn't stand up to scrutiny, why is it a >> "cheap tactic" to point it out? >> >> The Iraq War stinks a lot, in part because 2000 American soldiers are dead. > > > >Disagree. Death happens naturally, in any war, from natural disaster, >from disease, etc. (my point which you were interested in twisting for >your own agenda). 2000 dead doesn't make the war unjust or wrong. Your >scrutiny doesn't change that reality. Unsderstandably, my point is too >subtle for some of you. > >-JC Sorry, but 2000 dead would stink whether the war is justifiable or not. It might be a little easier to take if the war was justifiable, but it would still stink. And in my view, death by war is not a "natural" death. JimK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:35:09 -0600 From: Gladys Subject: Re: Ryan Adams done? uNjoyMiceElf wrote: > > His insanity makes it mighty hard to be a fan." > Ugh > I read an interview with him in Rolling Stone. They asked him what was his favorite music. Tops on his list was '77 grateful dead. That's nuts. ;-) Gladys. ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:38:47 -0700 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > Holy shit, you weren't kidding! Let me put it this way: you have *got* > be fucking kidding! Neil listed only the high(low)lites, the Patriots > had HUGE injury issues, on par or more so than anyone but Carolina. > They had so many guys missing from the defensive backfield that they > played a wide receiver at DB. And they went 14-2. And won the title. > > In 2003, the Patriots started 45, yes, that's 45! different players. > And went 14-2 and won the title. That has to be some kind of record. > > Mark Exactly,they did a great job in putting their fingers in the dyke,er dike the last few years. Oh yeah,that is what Schottenheimer said givng them props, and then Brady and some others started whining that he was talking about their team. Also thought Brady showed bad sportsmanship after the San Diego game when he bolted from the field without shaking Bree's hand. The Pats have now come back to be in the top 5-6 teams, gotta say ther Colts are number 1. Steelers 2. Parity, the mantra of the NFL. peace jeff ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:18:15 -0400 RossMcGibbon wrote: > > You're not likely to bump into Private(s) Shelby. We have the joy of his > company over here in the UK - where I once met him. He seemed like a > nice enough bloke, who thinks it is fun to be obnoxious. Strange. > Remember folks, he's out there representing YOUR country!!! Best get > over here & correct the impression.... You can keep him if you'd like. Really. I don't think too many would mind (at least not over here, anyway). > Chris is planning a holiday over here too. > Geez, why'd you only send the nutters to the UK? > > We give you Lennon, you give us Shelby & God-boy! > (Please forgive us for sending Graham Nash). > > Ross > > In article , The Iron Muffin > writes > >You know, after giving it more thought, I realized that there are > >very few people on RMGD that I would *not* want to meet. > > > >Crissy Pharissee, Hateful Narc, Shelby, and the other fascist > >trolls are the only ones who really spring to mind as being the > >kind of people I generally avoid. > > -- > RossMcGibbon > For music reviews, arts, opinions and more - www.vanguard-online.co.uk > > "I've been all around the world and I've never seen a statue of a critic" - > Leonard Bernstein ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: Arkansas Mother Gives Birth to 16th Child (NDC) Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:49:25 -0700 "Jedidiah, he's got a dime.. Says he catch more fish, every time" ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:53:21 -0700 frndthdevl wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > > > > > Holy shit, you weren't kidding! Let me put it this way: you have *got* > > be fucking kidding! Neil listed only the high(low)lites, the Patriots > > had HUGE injury issues, on par or more so than anyone but Carolina. > > They had so many guys missing from the defensive backfield that they > > played a wide receiver at DB. And they went 14-2. And won the title. > > > > In 2003, the Patriots started 45, yes, that's 45! different players. > > And went 14-2 and won the title. That has to be some kind of record. > > > > Mark > > Exactly,they did a great job in putting their fingers in the dyke,er > dike the last few years. > > Oh yeah,that is what Schottenheimer said givng them props, and then > Brady and some others started whining that he was talking about their > team. Althought way too much has been made about Marty's comments, way too much has also been made about Brady's response. If you listen to both, it was much ado about nothing on both ends. And it was hardly whining, that word is used every time someone says something that they don't agree with or like. >Also thought Brady showed bad sportsmanship after the San Diego > game when he bolted from the field without shaking Bree's hand. First I've heard of it, and well, who cares? They just got their ass beat, I don't blame Brady (or anyone else in that situation) for leaving the field immediately. > Pats have now come back to be in the top 5-6 teams, gotta say ther > Colts are number 1. Steelers 2. Parity, the mantra of the NFL. Give your team more credit, the 'Bolts belong at or near the top of that list, and the Steelers belong one notch below the Patriots ,wherever they happen to be on the list. Mark ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:56:01 -0700 kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > OK, let's face it. There are folks here who peak our > curiousity. > OK folks, who on rmgd would you like to meet? > Kurt OK. Here ya go: AirtimeJunkie Andrew Murawa Andy Gefen ba ba booie band beyond description bigamps bongo Brad Greer brew ziggins Bzl Carlisle Dave Kelly dearmeyer Dylanstubs Edwin Hurwitz Everybody's Gonna Be Happy frndthdevl greek_philosophi...@hotmail.com Greg Sasso Imsjry JC Martin Jerry's Kids JimK Joe joker4...@comcast.net JonP k sturm katrinka kpnn...@yahoo.com leftie Mizshely mjd Neil X. Nick's Picks Olompali4 pookietooth RandyStoner Ray Richard Morris Rick Wolfish Rogues Island's finest RossMcGibbon Roxanne McDaniel sacha scarletbgonias@hotmail.com Schmoe Sean Baker seraphim Seth Jackson Sherry Steve Lenier Steve Terry Stuknot The Iron Muffin The Lord of Eltingville Tim Donohoe tim_ratdog TNKEV Volkfolk Walter Karmazyn wyeknot If I left any of you other outstandingly cool people out please forgive me! Now, who am I certain I'd not like to know? Hateful Narc Asshole de Taco Bell PV34&#&$&^% Not really certain about Ken Fortenberry. If he's half the dick he pretends to be around here then certainly not, but somethin' tells me it' may all be a front in his case an' he jus' might be OK in person. Other than that I believe I'd enjoy to meet most any of you good folks! The only person from RMGD I've met in "real life" so far is Jeff (frndthdevl) and he's definitely a good man!! He's also introduced me to some very cool people including his lovely wife! I believe the list above'd make fine party. Wasn't somebody talkin' about a bus to SF?!?!?! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: (ndc) Ever Wonder.... Date: 12 Oct 2005 12:58:26 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Ray wrote: > > JC Martin wrote: > > > >>Ray wrote: > >> > >>>JC Martin wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Walter Karmazyn wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>What 2,000 dead soldiers look like? > >>>>> > >>>>>http://tinyurl.com/b7vp4 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>This is like a 9 meg download, modems be forewarned. Music by Pink > >>>>>Floyd, lies by Bush & Co. > >>>> > >>>>No offense to you Walter, but there may be 40k dead in Pakistan due to a > >>>>natural disaster. We all die, and necessarily so...not always within > >>>>nature's calmest waters. But death doesn't warrant fear. If a cause is > >>>>worthy, sacrifice of life may indeed be necessary for the better > >>>>survival of mankind. This war in Iraq stinks not one bit because 2000 > >>>>soldiers are dead. It stinks because it was the wrong action for this > >>>>country to take, and it obviously to the sane person decreases Islamic > >>>>terrorism not one bit. But it's a cheap tactic IMO to use fear to > >>>>influence or change minds. And in this case, it doesn't work. > >>> > >>>My take is that the primary intent of this presentation is not to use > >>>fear to influence or change minds, but instead to drive home the point > >>>that 2000 soldiers have died so far in a war that was sold to the > >>>American people under false pretenses. Hence the repeated > >>>juxtiposition in this presentation of dead soldiers against Bush > >>>Administration lies about Iraq's purported WMDs and ties to al Qaeda. > >> > >>Yeah, I understand, which is why I prefaced with my not wanting to > >>offend Walter's motives. Either way though, it plays to the general > >>public as a cheap tactic, just as using adjectives like "unjust" and > >>"illegal" does. > > > > > > I don't see juxtiposing images of dead US soldiers against Bush > > Administration lies that were used to put these soldiers into harm's > > way as being cheap. > > Well, we disagree. It's a type of advertising that won't play today. Whether it 'plays' or not is one thing - you may be right there, dunno. Whether it's cheap or not is another. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:04:28 -0700 "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1129145271.410957.197060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Andrew Murawa wrote: >> "Neil X." wrote in message >> news:1129090446.955419.168030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> > >> >> Andrew Murawa wrote: >> >> >> >> Don't start whining about a few injuries now after >> >> having been left relatively unscathed during the past two >> >> seasons... >> > >> > >> > >> > Damn man, last year we lost our 5-time All-Pro cornerback Ty Law. >> > We >> > also played more than half the season without Super Bowl MVP Deion >> > Branch and All-Pro tackle Matt Light. We lost All-Pro defensive >> > tackle >> > Richard Seymour for both AFC playoff games. The year before, we >> > lost >> > All-Pro linebackers Rosevelt Colvin and Ted Johnson. Don't get me >> > started. Was anyone else in the league forced to play wide >> > receivers >> > in their defensive secondary last year?? >> >> Wow, so you lost one guy for the season, a couple guys for half the >> season, and another guy for two games, and you had injury problems? >> Talk >> to the Panthers or the Titans, each of whom had at least half of >> their >> starters lost to season-ending injuries... Injuries are a part of >> the >> game, certainly, but by and large, the Pats escaped major injury >> problems each of the last two seasons... > > Holy shit, you weren't kidding! Let me put it this way: you have > *got* > be fucking kidding! Neil listed only the high(low)lites, the Patriots > had HUGE injury issues, on par or more so than anyone but Carolina. > They had so many guys missing from the defensive backfield that they > played a wide receiver at DB. And they went 14-2. And won the title. > > In 2003, the Patriots started 45, yes, that's 45! different players. > And went 14-2 and won the title. That has to be some kind of record. Just going over the history of the 2003 team, they lost exactly three players for the season due to injury, Roosevelt Colvin, David Patten and Mike Compton... Other players on the team, such as Kevin Faulk, McGinest, Branch, Givens, Graham and others were listed as questionable for most of the season, but rarely actually missed games, and by the end of the season, had most of their starters intact... Given that they started three different guys at RB, six at WR, three at punter, etc, the # of different "starters" on a team that prides itself on having interchangeable players is a nice number, but doesn't mean a whole lot, compared with say the Panthers last year who lost something like 13 players for the season to injury, including 4 pro-bowlers, or the Titans who by the end of last season had 14 missing starters... Who'd you lose last year? Poole, Law, Samuel, Branch and Watson? It's pretty impressive that the Pats were able to overcome those injuries, but it wasn't exactly a barrage of injuries last season, let alone the year before ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:13:43 -0400 Thus spake pookietooth@netzero.net... > brew ziggins wrote: > > Thus spake pookietooth@netzero.net... > > > AirtimeJunkie wrote: > > > > Grapefruit Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grapefruit Ed for me too. And not in an ironic way. I'd really like to > > > know what makes him tick. > > > If Grapefruit Ed were a tree, what kind of tree would he be? > > > > I, ah, think I know the answer to this one... > > > > How about this: who would win in a knife fight between Grapefruit Ed, > Superman, Jesus, and Harry Potter? Depends, whose side is Ditka on??? -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: 12 Oct 2005 13:25:58 -0700 Andrew Murawa wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1129145271.410957.197060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > > > Andrew Murawa wrote: > >> "Neil X." wrote in message > >> news:1129090446.955419.168030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> >> Andrew Murawa wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Don't start whining about a few injuries now after > >> >> having been left relatively unscathed during the past two > >> >> seasons... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Damn man, last year we lost our 5-time All-Pro cornerback Ty Law. > >> > We > >> > also played more than half the season without Super Bowl MVP Deion > >> > Branch and All-Pro tackle Matt Light. We lost All-Pro defensive > >> > tackle > >> > Richard Seymour for both AFC playoff games. The year before, we > >> > lost > >> > All-Pro linebackers Rosevelt Colvin and Ted Johnson. Don't get me > >> > started. Was anyone else in the league forced to play wide > >> > receivers > >> > in their defensive secondary last year?? > >> > >> Wow, so you lost one guy for the season, a couple guys for half the > >> season, and another guy for two games, and you had injury problems? > >> Talk > >> to the Panthers or the Titans, each of whom had at least half of > >> their > >> starters lost to season-ending injuries... Injuries are a part of > >> the > >> game, certainly, but by and large, the Pats escaped major injury > >> problems each of the last two seasons... > > > > Holy shit, you weren't kidding! Let me put it this way: you have > > *got* > > be fucking kidding! Neil listed only the high(low)lites, the Patriots > > had HUGE injury issues, on par or more so than anyone but Carolina. > > They had so many guys missing from the defensive backfield that they > > played a wide receiver at DB. And they went 14-2. And won the title. > > > > In 2003, the Patriots started 45, yes, that's 45! different players. > > And went 14-2 and won the title. That has to be some kind of record. > > Just going over the history of the 2003 team, they lost exactly three > players for the season due to injury, Roosevelt Colvin, David Patten and > Mike Compton... Other players on the team, such as Kevin Faulk, > McGinest, Branch, Givens, Graham and others were listed as questionable > for most of the season, but rarely actually missed games, and by the end > of the season, had most of their starters intact... Given that they > started three different guys at RB, six at WR, three at punter, etc, the > # of different "starters" on a team that prides itself on having > interchangeable players is a nice number, but doesn't mean a whole lot, > compared with say the Panthers last year who lost something like 13 > players for the season to injury, including 4 pro-bowlers, or the Titans > who by the end of last season had 14 missing starters... I have to ask, where the hell do you find these names and numbers? I was wracking my brain trying to remember the specific guys who went out and when, and for how long, but you seem to have them at your fingertips...do you have a good source or a better memory than me? Anyway, I stand by my statement: the Patiots lost players, both all pro and non all pro, in serious numbers continuously throughout the year. Some were gone for good (Ty Law, Rosie Colvin) and some were gone for key periods of time (Tedy Washington for 8 games, Seymour for the playoffs), etc. Carolina had it worse, but they finished what, 7-9? To say the the Patriots were not affected by the injuries is ludacris: they were hit by injuries more than probably all but 2 teams in the league. And they won it all, both years, which is truly remarkable. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Hard ttimes in NE Date: 12 Oct 2005 13:30:27 -0700 Ludicrous, dammit, not the rapper. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .