From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #546 Dead-Flames Digest #546, Volume #48 Tue, 11 Oct 05 03:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Phil NYE in San Francisco ("k sturm") Re: Richard Morris (and anyone else) 5/4/72 at shnflac.net ("Richard Morris") Re: Ryan Adams done? (mrpomfrit) Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("The Iron Muffin") Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) (Ben) Re: Beer query (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: Beer query (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) (Jeff) Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 (Jeff) Colorado Web Site Aims to Organize Liberal Activists (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("band beyond description") Re: Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) (Ben) Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? ("Dave Kelly") Re: Beer query ("Dave") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: Phil NYE in San Francisco Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:53:23 GMT "Roxanne McDaniel" wrote in message news:EAD2f.292$j66.32@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > "Steve Terry" > wrote in message ... > > "Richard Morris" < wrote in message >> "Rupert" wrote in message >>... >>> So where's the RMGD luncheon gonna be?!? >>> >> >> At Sweetbac's. >> >> Beer and brisket and Philadelphia whatchamacallits. >> >> R. > > His pad is overcrowded already. Ya got his kids Joanie and Chachi and > Trigonometry the ass and Snooker the tsunami refugee and Mr. Natural (his > shepherd). I vote that we Eat At Joes, after first developing a > substantial > appetite compliments of Joe's killer hashish Geraldo. > *********************************** > This Hoosier's been paying attention! > Um...Steve, will you be driving out for the luncheon and can I hitch > a ride with you? Kathy, Sean, ya'll going? > I seriously doubt that I'll be going. Unless I can hitch a ride, too, that is. k ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Richard Morris (and anyone else) 5/4/72 at shnflac.net Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:18:19 -0700 Thanks bro ... I am on it ... running a little slow, and right now I am pushing more than I am pulling ... but hopefully it will speed up a bit as others finish up. *Most* cool! Thanks!!!! Richard. "Shawn Lucas" wrote in message news:434b446c.18235511@news.col.sbcglobal.net... > > I just upped this one. It already has a slew of leechers but come on > and jump on...its not at the archive anymore > > Find it here: > > http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=57bb60943cdfdf226f709f92e7e6db8991570add > > > Enjoy, > Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:29:22 +0200 From: mrpomfrit Subject: Re: Ryan Adams done? uNjoyMiceElf wrote: > anyone have any info on this? Someone on another group I'm on said > "don't expect to see him in Vegoose". They commented on his craziness > and said there might be an announcement soon. > > let this be true! > I genuinely don't understand this. Every now and again I see posts on this board bitching about Ryan Adams. When I first heard that he was playing with Lesh I was absolutely thrilled, and it made total sense to me. For a lond time now I've considered him one of the most interesting and enjoyable musicians to emerge in recent times. I don't like everything he does, but his prolific output shows a great restless and questing energy; his country sensibilities are directly inspired by Gram Parsons which is no bad thing at all; his songs are honest and intelligent, and his singing is uninhibited and passionate. In short, he's an artist of great heart. I must admit I'm surprised to see his reported "craziness" used as a criticism on a Grateful Dead newsgroup! May I respectfully suggest you listen again to this young man's recorded work and cut him some slack? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:04:19 -0400 kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > OK, let's face it. There are folks here who peak our > curiousity. Joe? Booie? What the hell are these folks > like in real life. Usenet is somewhat of an illusion. > We all perceive based on our preconceived notions. > However, over time, we think we know each other, but > do we really? After hanging out here for a couple of > years (and on other ng), I'd have to say my vote for > a meet and greet would be with JC. Don't get flattered, > but my preconceived notion is that you are an older > version of myself in a lot of ways. I think it would > be kind of cool to actually meet you in person and > probably shatter that myth :) At least, you have very > good taste in music. > > OK folks, who on rmgd would you like to meet? I'd like to meet Scot (volkfolk). I hear he's pretty good on the mandolin... -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:09:41 -0700 I may be working there soon - just trying to find out all I can. I saw the weather report today (36/27, 100% chance of snow) - that's kind of cold for me, but I can deal with that for the right job, which this might be. I've heard it stinks, literally, with feedlots and slaughterhouses being the main culprits, but I don't have to live right there - the HR rep I've been talking to commutes from Denver (close to 50 miles, but it only takes 40 minutes, so she says). I cant' imagine you can smell it that far away. I've never lived in a town this small (50,000-80,000 depending on what the source is). What's the music scene like? Will I have to drive to Denver to hear music? At least I'll be close to Red Rocks. I'll be up there soon to check the place out - I'll have 2 nites to check it out, most likely on a weekend and only have to spend a few hours actually interviewing with my prospective employer. What should I check out? Anything to do on a Saturday? will the winter suck? ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Beer query Date: 10 Oct 2005 23:20:20 -0700 I do not know since when. It may be the Greek pronunciation. I agree with the one that rhymes with ferry. I have no documentation. The first just seems wrong regardless of what the dictionary says. .. ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Beer query Date: 10 Oct 2005 23:21:18 -0700 No reference. I guess I just like it that way! .. ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: 10 Oct 2005 23:23:33 -0700 I would like to meet whoever has the best doses and weed and who also knows the hottest deadhead chicks. .. ------------------------------ From: Jeff Subject: Re: Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:04:18 -0600 Ben wrote: > I may be working there soon - just trying to find out all I can. > > I saw the weather report today (36/27, 100% chance of snow) - that's > kind of cold for me, but I can deal with that for the right job, which > this might be. Don't let the temperatures fool you. Being a mile closer to the sun makes a huge difference. On a sunny 45 degree day, I walk around in t-shirts. The low humidity makes the heat seem less hot, and cold seem less cold > I've heard it stinks, literally, with feedlots and slaughterhouses > being the main culprits, but I don't have to live right there - the HR > rep I've been talking to commutes from Denver (close to 50 miles, but > it only takes 40 minutes, so she says). > > I cant' imagine you can smell it that far away. You can smell it within a 20 mile radium much of the time...and yes, it stinks! > I've never lived in a town this small (50,000-80,000 depending on what > the source is). > > What's the music scene like? > > Will I have to drive to Denver to hear music? At least I'll be close > to Red Rocks. Don't know about greelee, but you can drive to Fort Collins (home of CSU), Boulder or Denver for good tunes > I'll be up there soon to check the place out - I'll have 2 nites to > check it out, most likely on a weekend and only have to spend a few > hours actually interviewing with my prospective employer. > > What should I check out? Anything to do on a Saturday? > > will the winter suck? Nope. Winters *ROCK*. Get yourself a snowboard and a $270 season pass, and learn to ride the rockies! ~Jeff ------------------------------ From: Jeff Subject: Re: charlie miller SBD downloads 8/30,31/81 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:09:05 -0600 leftie wrote: > So, I try to download the Hendrix, and it says "port 6881 is > blacklisted" and won't do the downlaod... :-( > > How do I proceed? > It's tmnsp.net way of pretecting you from yourself. More and more ISPs are blocking 6881, since they assume the only use of bittorrent is illegal. So you have to tell your client to use a different port, and open that port on your router/firewall. ~Jeff ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Colorado Web Site Aims to Organize Liberal Activists (NDC) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:16:58 +0900 bc-web-colorado (wap) (ATTN: National editors)(Includes optional trims) //Colorado Web Site Aims to Organize Liberal Activists// By Brian Faler Special to The Washington Post A small advocacy group in Colorado is betting that it can take one state-of-the-art Web site, add half a million dollars or so and end up with a potent tool that will enable it to organize the state's entire community of liberal activists. ProgressNow, formed two years ago, is borrowing some of the online tactics that helped fuel the 2004 presidential campaign of Howard Dean, now the Democratic National Committee chairman. It has invited activists from across the state to use its Web site free to push most any issue they like. The goal is to create a go-to site for Colorado activists a sort of online hub for everyone from environmentalists to abortion rights advocates to those concerned about the direction of their school boards. The group hopes liberals will use the site ProgressNowAction.org to find each other, organize and meet people working on other issues. In the process, it hopes to assemble a statewide network of activists and, ultimately, give Democrats a new and easily replicated model for local political organizing. ``We're taking what we learned from the Dean campaign and are applying it to a state,'' said Bobby Clark, who worked on Dean's Internet team before becoming deputy director of ProgressNow. ``If we do our job right, when election time comes around, we will have a much more engaged electorate.'' It is one of the more unusual and ambitious efforts in grass-roots organizing at the state level. Notably, the group has no connection to the Democratic Party, which has launched its own effort to rebuild its state parties. The site is run by what in political action lingo is a ''501c4,'' after the section of the federal tax code that governs its finances. Those organizations may accept unlimited financial contributions but cannot coordinate their efforts with a political party. ProgressNow so far can make only modest boasts in people and money. It has a $500,000 budget, roughly equivalent to that of the Colorado Democratic Party but only a small fraction of that of many traditional liberal groups. It has five people on its payroll. What's more, for all the attention in recent years to the role of the Internet in politics, it is still unclear how useful it is at the state and local levels. The most successful organizing efforts thus far have been run at the behest of some national organization, pushing some national issue to a national audience. These include presidential campaigns or MoveOn.org. Still untested is whether it is possible to mobilize liberal activists around something other than a looming election, particularly in a mid-size state with a traditionally conservative tilt. There are few examples of the Internet making a difference at that level, where the issues can be decidedly parochial and the pool of potential supporters small. But Clark sees an opportunity. ``That's what's been missing,'' he said. ``MoveOn has been around for years, and they've done an amazing job of organizing around big, national issues. But that's not enough. There are local issues happening all the time that people are concerned about.'' He said he hopes activists will use the site to organize around everything from bills moving through the state legislature to fights over Wal-Mart. ProgressNow also said it will try to steer users toward various causes, such as supporting an initiative on Colorado's November ballot that would relax caps on government spending. The effort recently got a boost from MoveOn.org, when the online giant messaged the 24,642 Coloradans on its e-mail list, urging them to visit the site. ``We are always on the lookout for interesting initiatives that leverage technology to get people involved. Maybe we're not looking in the right places ... but I haven't seen another approach exactly like it,'' said Eli Pariser, the executive director of MoveOn's political action committee. ``If this works, obviously, we would be interested in helping expand it beyond Colorado.'' (Optional add end) The site, much more sophisticated than the state Democratic Party's site, features a range of tools that will be familiar to anyone who followed Dean's presidential bid. There is a knockoff of the Web site Meetup.com, which helps the like-minded find each other and that the former Vermont governor used to rally thousands. There are tools to set up your own Web log, or blog. There is a database of Colorado voters and their addresses, so that activists can write them letters urging action on some issue. There are profiles of individual activists. Soon groups will be able to set up their own fund-raisers on the site. So far, attendance has been light. Clark estimated that a ``few hundred'' people have been actively using the site since it was unveiled last month. There is a small group organized by Denver-area college students. Another focuses on gay and lesbian issues. ProgressNow said it has encountered some resistance from local Democratic Party officials who fear the effort will siphon people and money from their activities. Patricia Waak, who heads the state party, acknowledged that some see the group as little more than unwanted competition. She said that she wished it would somehow work through the party, but that she nevertheless supported its efforts. ``The fact is that they're going on a premise here that worked for Howard Dean when he was running and was pretty effective for him,'' Waak said. ``But in the end, it still only picks up a certain group of people. There are still tons of people out there who don't even have a computer and who could care less what blogs say.'' ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:19:06 +0900 After hanging out here for a couple of > years (and on other ng), I'd have to say my vote for > a meet and greet would be with JC. get a room, you two! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: Anyone live near Greeley, CO? (or Fort Collins) (NDC) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:23:54 -0700 On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:04:18 -0600, Jeff wrote: >Ben wrote: >> I may be working there soon - just trying to find out all I can. >> >> I saw the weather report today (36/27, 100% chance of snow) - that's >> kind of cold for me, but I can deal with that for the right job, which >> this might be. > >Don't let the temperatures fool you. Well, I've been living in 100+ weather for months here in AZ, and 3 times in the last couple of weeks, I've almost felt cold when opening up my door in the morning just because the temperature was colder than my apartment. Cold is probably the wrong word, but it was strangely not hot. > Being a mile closer to the sun makes a huge >difference. On a sunny 45 degree day, I walk around in t-shirts. The low humidity makes >the heat seem less hot, and cold seem less cold I know lack of humidity makes hot seem less hot - if it works the same way for cold, them > >> I've heard it stinks, literally, with feedlots and slaughterhouses >> being the main culprits, but I don't have to live right there - the HR >> rep I've been talking to commutes from Denver (close to 50 miles, but >> it only takes 40 minutes, so she says). >> >> I cant' imagine you can smell it that far away. > >You can smell it within a 20 mile radium much of the time...and yes, it stinks! > >> I've never lived in a town this small (50,000-80,000 depending on what >> the source is). >> >> What's the music scene like? >> >> Will I have to drive to Denver to hear music? At least I'll be close >> to Red Rocks. > >Don't know about greelee, but you can drive to Fort Collins (home of CSU), Boulder or >Denver for good tunes > >> I'll be up there soon to check the place out - I'll have 2 nites to >> check it out, most likely on a weekend and only have to spend a few >> hours actually interviewing with my prospective employer. >> >> What should I check out? Anything to do on a Saturday? >> >> will the winter suck? > >Nope. Winters *ROCK*. Get yourself a snowboard and a $270 season pass, and learn to ride >the rockies! > >~Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: who on rmgd would you like to meet? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:37:02 GMT Who would I like to meet?....easy. The women of RMGD: Carlisle, Sherry, Roxbury, Scarlet, & Nantuckets Finest. I apologize if I left any other broad out. By and large, the men on this board don't do much for me. The few I HAVE met were major disappointments. Reverend Baker?....I think he stole something while he was here. Band Beyond?.....a decent enough guy....but the toupee looks friggin' RIDICULOUS! Neil X....ok....dont get me STARTED on THAT train wreck! His penchant for mini skirts & go-go boots is WELL documented. Nah....give me the ladies of RMGD anyday! Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Beer query Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:45:41 +1300 wrote in message news:1128980552.984875.263160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I am mildly annoyed when people > who say query pronounce it as > "queery". A "queery" is something that > often happens in a gay bar. A "query" > is pronounced "qu - airy". > > Beer gives me a headache. Can they make beer from cannabis flowers? > That might be good. > Matter of fact hops and cannabis are botanically very close. So close that there has been a legend around for years that you can graft hops onto a cannabis rootstock to produce hops stuffed with THC. You know the sort of legend. Everybody knows someone who has a cousin that did it successfully, but they've never tried it themselves. My understanding is that cannabis needs to be cooked or smoked to generate the required effect. Midwives used to prescribe cannabis tea for labouring women to ease labour, but it had no hallucinogenic effect at all. 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