From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #523 Dead-Flames Digest #523, Volume #48 Fri, 7 Oct 05 13:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: greatest song ever ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (brew ziggins) Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? (band beyond description) The Burning Bush ("Dave") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("neurodancer") Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (brew ziggins) Re: greatest song ever ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall ("neurodancer") Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall ("Cozmik Charlie T") Re: Pride of Man (NDC) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: greatest song ever ("neurodancer") Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) ("Dave Kelly") Re: New Riders of The Purple Sage Mexicali: Booie what'ya think? ("neurodancer") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: 7 Oct 2005 11:53:34 -0700 RickNBarbInSD wrote: This was really tough there are so many "favorites" > I have, but I tried to narrow it down Hey, that reminds me; there's this section from St. Stephen on "Live Dead": "High green chilly winds and windy vines in loops around the twining shafts of lavender, they're crawling to the sun Underfoot the ground is patched with climbing arms of ivy wrapped around the manzanita, stark and shiny in the breeze Wonder who will water all the children of the garden when they sigh about the barren lack of rain and droop so hungry 'neath the sky... William Tell has stretched his bow till it won't stretch no furthermore and/or it may require a change that hasn't come before" I LOVE that bit!!! Truly one of my favorite things (besides rain drops on roses of course) EVER!! My question to y'all IS: Other than "Live Dead" where can I get any good versions of this?!?! Many thanks in advance, Rick ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:57:08 -0400 Thus spake sweetbac@pacbell.net... > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! If you don't have the two bonus discs that came with the pre-order only, give a holler... -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 03:58:26 +0900 On 2005-10-07 22:02:58 +0900, pbuzby2002@yahoo.com said: > > band beyond description wrote: >> by the way, anyone have any pithy comments to make about this release? > > I reviewed it for jambands.com. Wasn't crazy about it. Some hot licks > and a few inventive rearrangements of Miles's tunes, but too mellow and > it sounds like the guitarists have never met the rhythm section > players. > > Pat Buzby > Chicago, IL it kinda impressed me that way after a cursory Amazon search, in that the same studio band backed a series of similar-themed albums with guest guitarists; probably not worth it just for the few tracks I would like: Fusion for Miles: A Guitar Tribute ~ Various Artists Mysterious Voyages: A Tribute to Weather Report ~ Various Artists Visions of an Inner Mounting Apocalypse: A Fusion Guitar Tribute ~ Various Artists   -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Dave" Subject: The Burning Bush Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 07:57:22 +1300 Given God's previous record in the middle east this is a worry. Dave http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10349260 Bush: God told me to invade Iraq and attack Afghanistan 08.10.05 By Rupert Cornwell President George W. Bush has claimed God told him to invade Iraq and attack Afghanistan, as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and Palestinian independence. The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a new BBC series. The broadcast came on the day Mr Bush launched an impassioned attack in Washington on Islamic militants, likening their ideology to communism, and accusing them of seeking to "enslave whole nations" and set up a radical Islamic empire "that spans from Spain to Indonesia". In the programme, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, former Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former Prime Minister and now Palestinian President, that "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq', and I did." And Bush is quoted as telling the two men, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And by God, I'm gonna do it." The BBC reported that the White House had dismissed the allegations as "absurd". "He's never made such comments," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given that throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith. He told Bob Woodward - whose 2004 book Plan of Attack is the definitive account of the road to war in Iraq - that after giving the order to invade, he walked in the White House garden, praying "that our troops be safe, be protected by the Almighty". He told Woodward, "I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will. I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness." - INDEPENDENT ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 12:02:11 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > the latest 12 cd "Folk Songs of the Glaucoma Impaired > Huamachuco Boys Choir of Peru" box set! I've been looking all over for that! ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 12:04:16 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! > > DJ Sweetbac I myself am not yet a virtuoso on the fallopian tubes of water buffalo and other assorted mammals but it ain't for lack of practice! ND ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:15:15 -0400 wyeknot wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > What kind of mixer do you use, if you don't mind my asking? > > I mainly use a Mackie 808S. I had put together (and still own) > a 16 channel, umpteen watt rack system with enough power to > drive mains and monitors; rack compressor/gate, reverb. But I > can't transport it myself as it's too heavy and bulky. Heh. > So I bought the 808S and two Mackie speakers. Now I can > load/unload by myself if necessary and it all fits in my Outback, > no problem. This system can fill most pub-sized rooms. It can > drive monitors as well. > > http://www.mackie.com/products/808s/ Nice. > My only complaint with the 808S is it only has a single mute for > all channels, not individual channel mutes. That kind of sucks > but isn't a show-stopper. There are comparable, competing > systems that may offer even more flexibility at a better price. > I just bought what I knew. Indeed. Thanks for the information. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:15:39 -0400 king88uy7 wrote: > fa fa fa foolin > fa fa fa foolin ROTFL! -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:19:08 -0400 Thus spake tyronethighbone555@hotmail.com... > > Dave Kelly wrote: > > I just picked up the new " Chill Out with The Bushmen of Batswana" > > box set. A stunning 1952 field recording of Bushmen playing the > > Fallopian Tubes of poached water buffalo mixed by todays top > > Chill Out DJ's of Ibiza.....very ethno-ambient/trance/down tempo/ > > techno-hardcore/deep house...yet perfect for those 4am "K-Holes" > > blackouts at the chill out room in the lounge! > > Gosh!....am I ahead of my time! > > > > DJ Sweetbac > > > I myself am not yet a virtuoso on the fallopian tubes of water buffalo > and other assorted mammals but it ain't for lack of practice! IAAFTOWBWYPII????? -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:28:00 -0400 RickNBarbInSD wrote: > Hey, that reminds me; there's this section from St. Stephen > on "Live Dead": > > "High green chilly winds and windy vines > in loops around the twining > shafts of lavender, they're crawling to the sun. > Underfoot the ground is patched > with climbing arms of ivy wrapped > around the manzanita, > stark and shiny in the breeze. > Wonder who will water > all the children of the garden > when they sigh about the barren lack of rain > and droop so hungry 'neath the sky... > William Tell has stretched his bow > till it won't stretch no furthermore > and/or it may require a change > that hasn't come before." > > I LOVE that bit!!! Truly one of my favorite things (besides > rain drops on roses of course) EVER!! Whiskers on kittens are nice, too...but HELL, yeah. It's also very simple to play. > My question to y'all IS: > > Other than "Live Dead" where can I get any good versions of this?!?! Many of the early versions of Saint Stephen include this section. I can't bring dates to mind instantly, but check out some shows from 1967-1970...I'm sure you'll find the ones with the "William Tell" bridge soon enough. Even if you don't, you'll have a great time looking for them. And you'll hear some great Saint Stephens along the way. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: 7 Oct 2005 12:22:15 -0700 DB wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > > DB wrote: > > > >> band beyond description wrote: > >> > >>> On 2005-10-07 01:21:25 +0900, JC Martin said: > >>> > >>>> marklaw wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Performance pretty good for old geezers. > >>>>> > >>>>> Recording quality a major disappointment. > >>>>> > >>>>> In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live > >>>>> recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on > >>>>> archive.org? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, > >>>> yet soulless vampin'. > >>>> > >>>> -JC > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> there! you said it! but i heard the bootlegs and occasional lack of > >>> sound quality could be forgiven, but not the underlying stuff which > >>> you so eloquently describe. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Well, that sure justifies my decision not pay $400 a ticket to see > >> these guys at MSG later this month. The $22.50 per ticket I spent to > >> get Umphrey's McGee tix for the two Irving Plaza shows the week before > >> is looking to be a much better investment. > > > > > > > > > > Even though I said IT, I'd pay maybe $50 to see these guys at the > > Oakland Coliseum for the nostalgia factor. I don't hate their music, > > but it's kinda a 'been there, done that' kind of group for me. > > > > -JC > > > You could probably talk me into paying as much as $80 for a decent seat > (that's what the Allman's charge for the Beacon run), but $375 plus TM > charges to see these greedy old geezers play at MSG is just over the > edge and out of control. > > DB I paid $145 to see The Who 3 or 4 years ago and vowed I'd never pay more than that to see anyone, which I've stuck to. I must say though, The Bleedin' Who were worth every penny. ND ------------------------------ From: "Cozmik Charlie T" Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:29:10 -0700 "neurodancer" wrote in message news:1128712935.095227.172670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > DB wrote: > > JC Martin wrote: > > > DB wrote: > > > > > >> band beyond description wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 2005-10-07 01:21:25 +0900, JC Martin said: > > >>> > > >>>> marklaw wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Performance pretty good for old geezers. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Recording quality a major disappointment. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live > > >>>>> recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on > > >>>>> archive.org? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, > > >>>> yet soulless vampin'. > > >>>> > > >>>> -JC > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> there! you said it! but i heard the bootlegs and occasional lack of > > >>> sound quality could be forgiven, but not the underlying stuff which > > >>> you so eloquently describe. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Well, that sure justifies my decision not pay $400 a ticket to see > > >> these guys at MSG later this month. The $22.50 per ticket I spent to > > >> get Umphrey's McGee tix for the two Irving Plaza shows the week before > > >> is looking to be a much better investment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even though I said IT, I'd pay maybe $50 to see these guys at the > > > Oakland Coliseum for the nostalgia factor. I don't hate their music, > > > but it's kinda a 'been there, done that' kind of group for me. > > > > > > -JC > > > > > > You could probably talk me into paying as much as $80 for a decent seat > > (that's what the Allman's charge for the Beacon run), but $375 plus TM > > charges to see these greedy old geezers play at MSG is just over the > > edge and out of control. > > > > DB > > > I paid $145 to see The Who 3 or 4 years ago and vowed I'd never pay > more than that to see anyone, which I've stuck to. I must say though, > The Bleedin' Who were worth every penny. > ND > I was shocked that I felt the same way. I love the 'OO, but was pissed to pay that much. Worth every penny. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Pride of Man (NDC) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:30:38 -0700 "Michael Black" wrote in message news:di6a5s$ank$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > > "Olompali4" (Olompali4@aol.com) writes: >> Hamilton Camp was also a terrific comedic actor with roles from The >> Andy Griffth Show to Desperate Housewives. >> > Well after he finished his folksinging career, he joined Second City > in Chicago, at a time when it was likely considered part of the > counterculture. Then he was The Committee in San Fransisco, that shows > up in histories of Haight Ashbury. When he played "Del Murdoch" on > WKRP (in an episode where the station does a remote from Del's stereo > store, and the place gets robbed while they are on the air), he was > back performing with Howard Hesseman, who was part of The Committee, > and who actually had been a DJ in the early days of "underground radio" > in San Francsisco. Hesseman also narrates the Rockin' at the Red Dog DVD. And Hamilton Camp may also be remembered for being Mary's short date on a classic episode of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. He played short Irish leprechaunish kinda guys on almost every show on TV in the 60's and 70's (my big TV years). EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:40:57 -0700 "Roxanne McDaniel" wrote in message news:pDx1f.538$C55.447@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... > > "leftie"> wrote in message ... > > I hate to be paranoid, but I'm wondering if Meirs isn't a decoy. She > gets shot down in the Senate. Then Bush comes back with the hard-core > right-winger Rove really wants and they can accuse the Dems of > obstructionism if they try to block two in a row... The Dems muster up > all their backbone... and cave within 48 hours, as usual. > ********************************** > Bingo! No bingo. Bush pulls her and nominates a Scalia type = nuclear / constitutional option / filibuster / no confirmation. He nominated a cipher because that's all he could muster. > Yeah I must be paranoid too because I think the > NY subway tip, is nothing but a "controlled scare." > It's just one more way to keep everyone in line, control > the headlines. The NY authorities made a bigger deal out of it than the feds. But yeah, its a controlled scare, mainly timed to coincide with Bush's "major" speech on the Iraq war (that no one paid any attention to). One of those "see, there are too still terrorists" kinda things. Bush is the weakest he's ever been politically. People who a year ago would have called us traitors for daring to question our great president about anything are openly bashing him for his court pick, his Gulf spending spree, his inability to convince Americans that we're winning the war, and his general dumbness. Remember when his Social Security "plan" was the hot topic? Now its deader than a doornail. His Senate leader is a crook, his House majority leader is a crook, his top political aide is a crook, etc. Bush is just taking up space in Washington at this point. The far right is in the process of erasing him from their minds, and are now either jockeying for power or lining up behind others doing the jockeying. No way he could pull off some wild conspiracy re: the court at this point. He's lucky Rumsfeld still salutes him. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:44:55 -0700 I know this won't win me the most eclectic taste award, but........... I'm listening to the Traveling Wilburys Volumes One and Three, some ancient Conway Twitty (I could listen to Its Only Make Believe 100 times in a row and never tire of it), and the first Knack album. Yup, the first Knack album. One of my favorite pop records of all time. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: 7 Oct 2005 12:51:38 -0700 pookietooth wrote: > For the Dead I think The Other One fits the bill. > Non-Dead, I sure like Little Wing by Jimi Hendrix. I think my favorite rock song of all time is "Burning Down the House". Saw the Heads do it twice (second time was one of the 10 or so encores) at Forest Hills Tennis stadium 1983 and was hooked for life. Little Wing or Watchtower close seconds though. Ask me tomorrow and it's probably a totally different bunch of songs. ND ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:51:08 GMT wrote in message news:1128708189.045930.214920@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Normally I don't find you funny, but that made me laugh. > Not like you needed my approval or anything. > > Kurt Oh contrare..since I started posting here in late '99, I've spent MANY a sleepless night waiting for your approval...uh....kpnnews...this is an endorsement from someone I've long held in high regard...a mentor..someone who's made sense in these trying times...a moral rudder.... I WAS going to inquire about your wardrobe at the moment, but I DONT want to tarnish this moment. this bright, shining moment! Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: New Riders of The Purple Sage Mexicali: Booie what'ya think? Date: 7 Oct 2005 12:54:33 -0700 Burt wrote: > Great sold out show at Mexicali Blues last night!!! People in the streets > looking for a miracle! > Amazing playing by these "New New Riders";see 'em you won't be > disappointed!!! > > and..... > TONIGHT Friday October 7 > Joyous Lake > Woodstock NY > 845 679 8100 > > hey booie how about one of your incredible reviews? I'm sorry I don't get to > meet you > at any of these Mexicali shows,being a fan of your detailed reviews....! > > Burt > > > -- > Burt's Electronics > 549 Albany Avenue > Kingston NY 12401 > 845 331 5011 > 845 334 9787 (fax) I, who am admittedly a selfish and lazy bastard (and who currently has 14 stitches in his foot and ain't going anywhere far), think it stinks that they aren't playing at least one date in NYC. 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