From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #520 Dead-Flames Digest #520, Volume #48 Fri, 7 Oct 05 09:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Wah Advice... ("minnehaha") Re: separated at birth (GD content) ("mjd") Re: Skanky Anne (band beyond description) Re: archive.org? (band beyond description) Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (brew ziggins) Re: New rackmount gear... ("southforkk") Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 ("mjd") Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 ("mjd") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("Carlisle") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (brew ziggins) Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 (DB) Re: Best mixed show... (brew ziggins) Re: Best mixed show... (DB) Re: (NDC) anybody gamble (football) online? ("Highsteppin IntaTown") Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("Takis42nd") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? ("imsjry") Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: New rackmount gear... (wyeknot) Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ (DB) Re: No Direction Home (JonP) Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: No Direction Home (brew ziggins) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (JC Martin) Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall (DB) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? (JC Martin) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("chosney") Re: Wah Advice... (wyeknot) Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall ("chosney") Re: Happy B'day Ace Hall (DB) Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("mjd") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "minnehaha" Subject: Re: Wah Advice... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:30:49 -0400 Make sure you get one with true bypass. Most wah pedals will suck the tone out of your signal path. I sold my Vox because of that. ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: separated at birth (GD content) Date: 7 Oct 2005 05:41:58 -0700 funny as hell - thanks. Bearded Bob and the terrier had me spewing coffee - hilarious! ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Skanky Anne Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 21:42:49 +0900 On 2005-10-07 20:00:24 +0900, "Don Bean" said: > you know bush is an idiot when people on the right are slamming him > (for good cause though) > Bean >> you're too kind... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 21:54:33 +0900 On 2005-10-06 23:26:26 +0900, "Jamie Fisher" said: > Anyone else having trouble? no problem binging on downloads as we speak over here in Japan... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Miles Davis tribute any rmgd comments? Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:02:58 -0700 band beyond description wrote: > by the way, anyone have any pithy comments to make about this release? I reviewed it for jambands.com. Wasn't crazy about it. Some hot licks and a few inventive rearrangements of Miles's tunes, but too mellow and it sounds like the guitarists have never met the rhythm section players. Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:10:14 -0400 Thus spake jkezwind@comcastDOTnet... > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:19:05 -0700, leftie wrote: > > >Ray wrote: > > > >> 4) Ethiopiques, Vol. 4: Ethio Jazz & Musique Instrumentale, 1969-1974 > >> As you can see I've been on something of an African kick of late. This > >> is a compilation with most contributions by Ethiopean jazz > >> musician/arranger Mulatu Astatqe. Jammin' Ethiopian funk-soul-jazz > >> accented with Ethiopian roots music - works quite well. > > > >I love this disc! > > Now where else but rmgd would you find two people who are into > Ethiopian music? Other than Ethiopia, that is. Hey, me three! -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "southforkk" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:16:31 GMT "The Iron Muffin" spose thusly: >> Why did I have to pick such an expensive hobby? > > *sigh* > > -- > The Iron Muffin > > DEAD FREAKS UNITE > > Who are you? Where are you? > > How are you? Hey, Thats what my wife says to me- When did you pick up the bass? I thot you was one of those LP guys Sounds like you've got GAS. (Gear Accquistion Sydrome) -dave (whose drooling over a Gibson EB2 as seen on ebay right now) http://tinyurl.com/cga26 ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:16:28 -0700 or 11/6/77? Jer blowin' the vocals makes it all the more interesting when he stomps on the Mutron and just goes OFF! ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:17:56 -0700 just what the doctor ordered for a Friday - hot tip on a show I hadn't heard before. Much obliged, LP. ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:20:24 -0700 Right this second??--"Back pack back pack"-Dora the Explorer Last night--"The In Sound From Way Out"--even if you are not in normal circumstances a Beastie Boys fan, you may like this one. It's totally instrumental. Cool and funky for three white boyzz from the City. I admit that my musical tastes are very eclectic. peace out, carrie ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:22:03 -0400 Some interesting choices in this thread. Me go shopping. In recent rotation My Morning Jacket - It Still Moves I'm a little behind the times, but I try to keep up. I'm halfway into my second listen, and I'm liking this a lot. They don't really sound like Wilco, but they're working that same post-alt-country-symphonic-rock vein. Check it out. I'm hearing good things about their new disc 'Z' Richard Thompson - Faithless You know him you love him and he's got a Monster box set coming out in Feburary: http://www.richardthompson-music.com/catch_of_the_day.asp?id=449 Robert Rich - Gaudi I've had this on Repeat in the office all week. Very pleasant, but not saccarine, ambient music that doesn't scare the neighbors...too much. John Zorn's Bar Kokhba Sextet (50th Birthday Celebration) Three phat discs of hardcore klezmer jam jazz. For me Zorn's music is a crapshoot, as he ranges so widely, but this one is right in the sweet spot. Pineforest Crunch - Panamerenko Think the Cocteau Twins meet the Go- Gos. A tasty pop treat. Konono No1 -Congotronics Vol 1. I'm just going to steal this from the cdroots.com website "KONONO N°1 was founded over 25 years ago by Mingiedi, a virtuoso of the likembé (a traditional instrument sometimes called "sanza" or "thumb piano", consisting of metal rods attached to a resonator). The band's line-up includes three electric likembés (bass, medium and treble), equipped with hand-made microphones built from magnets salvaged from old car parts, and plugged into amplifiers. There's also a rhythm section which uses traditional as well as makeshift percussion (pans, pots and car parts), three singers, three dancers and a sound system featuring these famous megaphones." -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:22:03 -0400 Seth Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:02:15 -0400, DB > wrote: > > >>pantagruel wrote: >> >>>LP wrote: >>> >>> >>>>One of my favorite Scarlet B.-> Fire on the Mt. of all time. >>>>Richmond VA - a typical coliseum with a special affinity for Phil's >>>>bass bombs. The show had typical '84 character - some difficult vocals >>>>for Garcia, but also some FIERY interludes by the band as a whole. >>>>This Scarlet has one of the most RIPPIN' guitar solos Jerry ever gave >>>>to this song. The drummers were playing double-time steam-train >>>>chugging rythym throughout the entire song. And the Fire was lond and >>>>luxurious with plenty of Mutron from JG. >>>> >>>>It's a good one, even a '70s zealot might think it doesn't suck. >>>> >>>>LP >>>> >>> >>>Best . . . Scarlet/Fire . . . ever . . . >> >>Would someone plesae send this person 9/2/78 (Giant's Stadium), 11/1/79 >>(Nassau), 4/3/82 Norfolk, Va., 6/18/83 (SPAC) and/or 6/16/85 (Greek) and >>have him get back to us. > > > Why is 10/21/83 not on this list? I tried to pick one from each of several years and the SPAC version, even though there has never been a great recording of it in circulation, alway wins the 1983 contest hands down for me. Nothing from 1984 really came to mind other than perhaps Philly 4/20/84, but I was hard pressed to put it in a list of best ever Scarlet>Fires. The Greek Theater one has its moments as discussed above. However, with Touch tucked in there, it really doesn't count. DB DB ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Best mixed show... Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:27:33 -0400 Thus spake notes@music.com... > > wrote > > > > first i'd like to thank everyone for their AUD suggestions. > > some real gems i would have passed by... > > > > i'm wondering if any of you have any > > suggestions for SBD's where the sound mix is just mind blowing > > in that the recording almost seems alive, moving, etc... I have always had a soft spot for 12/28/79. While the mix is kind of off, particularly wrt the vocals, I love the June '74 boards, 6/16 and 6/18 in particular. They sound like you're sitting at Phil's feet, right next to one of the kick drums. The 91 digi-boards, the Betty's there's such a wealth out there... -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Best mixed show... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:26:20 -0400 the.stugots@gmail.com wrote: > first i'd like to thank everyone for their AUD suggestions. > some real gems i would have passed by... > > i'm wondering if any of you have any > suggestions for SBD's where the sound mix is just mind blowing > in that the recording almost seems alive, moving, etc... > > does this make sense > or had all the acis taken its toll? > > > -m > I am surprised that no one has mentioned any of the great May/June '74 SBD's. Try 5/14/74 from Missoula, Montana. It has always struck me one of the best sounding recordings from that era. DB ------------------------------ From: "Highsteppin IntaTown" Subject: Re: (NDC) anybody gamble (football) online? Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:34:16 -0700 Either way it's a "Gamble"... You want to win a bet? Take Philly droppin 3.5 to Dallas in Dallas. McNabb is hot, and the Giants who have the leagues most prolific offense and strangely enough (though not for long) the Skins are making them stay alery in the NFC East. ------------------------------ From: "Takis42nd" Crossposted-To: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.european-union Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:36:11 -0700 http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc252&image=5ea_sean.jpg Sicharim agazina http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc252&image=5ea_sean.jpg You telll us limoterk, your face is right next to your favorite toy mbouhahahahahahahahahhahaha,you always wear a tux before you blow Ben mbouhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha prits you lost again terkk. Kes sesini demuz KaraMounoPanoMalakOpoulos wrote: > *LOL* Happy memories of Bitchslapping Koku ! > > Yeah this is my favourite one KOKU > > I really PWN your feeble arse in this one > > Perhaps you ought to read it agan but try to UNDERSTAND it this time > > THICKO > > ---------------------- > ? "GAYson Lame-Brew Aged 98 and 1/2" ?????? ??? > ?????? news:1117503205.727825.140920@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > Hey KKTC, check the confused little Romanians muddled head out here.... > > > > He starts with "FUCKING TURK LIAR ! " so he's pretty certain that I'm > in fact a TURK..... > > > He continues on to say "But you are a Turk, so no wonder..." by this > time ASSERTING his FIRM, UNSHAKABLE BELIEF that I am in fact nothing > less than a TURK........ > > > And now ladies and gentlemen > ...............*drum-roll*........................ the moment you've > all seen a thousand times before > .............................*drum-roll*........................ Koku > the clown will .........*drum-roll*........................ before your > > very eyes ...............*drum-roll*........................ contradict > > himself stupidly with > ...............*drum-roll*........................ > > > "BTW, here you are ADMITTING to be Seanie Ruttledge, you MEGA-IDIOT ;-) > > > > You BANKRUPT MEGA-LOSER ;-)))" > > > Mbouhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaharharharhar > > > It took me 2005 attempts to get my true IRISH identity through to the > thick Romanianeshti wannbe grik > > > http://snipurl.com/f90m > > > And maybe, JUST MAYBE...... I've succeeded > > > *ROTFFLMFAOAYAPMFP* > > > I PWN KOKU THE CLOWN ! ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:43:18 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > Konono No1 -Congotronics Vol 1. I'm just going to steal this from the > cdroots.com website "KONONO N=B01 was founded over 25 years ago by > Mingiedi, a virtuoso of the likemb=E9 (a traditional instrument sometimes > called "sanza" or "thumb piano", consisting of metal rods attached to a > resonator). The band's line-up includes three electric likemb=E9s (bass, > medium and treble), equipped with hand-made microphones built from > magnets salvaged from old car parts, and plugged into amplifiers. > There's also a rhythm section which uses traditional as well as > makeshift percussion (pans, pots and car parts), three singers, three > dancers and a sound system featuring these famous megaphones." I took a look at the pictures here: http://www.crammed.be/konono/ Their setup looks like something I would have concocted during high school while I was cementing my destiny to go into electrical engineering. Interesting. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: 7 Oct 2005 06:51:36 -0700 Cozmik Charlie T wrote: > "imsjry" wrote in message > news:1128625037.572908.295170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > DB wrote: > > > They have got to be kidding, right? $12.75 in FLAC format for the > > > newest release and it is only one disc! I know 3/17/68 is not in > > > circulation and looks like it has a good set list: > > > > > > 1. Turn On Your Lovelight (Scott, Malone) > > > 2. That's It For The Other One > > > > Cryptical Envelopment > (Garcia) > > > The Other One > (Weir, Kreutzmann) > > > Cryptical Envelopment (Garcia) > > > 3. New Potato Caboose > (Lesh Peterson) > > > 4. China Cat Sunflower > (Garcia, Hunter) > > > 5. The Eleven > (Lesh, Hunter) > > > 6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > (Grateful Dead) > > > 7. Feedback Grateful Dead) > > > > This show is worth it at twice the price! > > > > Why? Because it smokes and it's '68 Dead in soundboard sound!! ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 07:06:13 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake jkezwind@comcastDOTnet... > > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:19:05 -0700, leftie wrote: > > > > >Ray wrote: > > > > > >> 4) Ethiopiques, Vol. 4: Ethio Jazz & Musique Instrumentale, 1969-1974 > > >> As you can see I've been on something of an African kick of late. This > > >> is a compilation with most contributions by Ethiopean jazz > > >> musician/arranger Mulatu Astatqe. Jammin' Ethiopian funk-soul-jazz > > >> accented with Ethiopian roots music - works quite well. > > > > > >I love this disc! > > > > Now where else but rmgd would you find two people who are into > > Ethiopian music? Other than Ethiopia, that is. > > Hey, me three! Me four. I like the Ethiopiques I have bought, but I don't think they are as great as some of the other stuff out of Africa. All it takes is a little hit of Fela. Right fellas? Then you hooked. Kurt ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:46:39 -0400 The Iron Muffin wrote: > Steve Terry wrote: >>wyeknot wrote: > >>>At this point though, I'm just plugging an acoustic guitar into the >>>board and use an Intellitouch vibrational tuner on the headstock. >> >>That's what I use. > > So you guys run straight signal into the board? > Do you have onboard effects on your mixers, or are you playing dry? Currently onboard effects for reverb. If not, I'd run it through something first so not completely dry. Depending on the setlist/crowd, etc., I may go through a few effects first (delay, chorus, even possibly an envelope ala Catfish John). Matt ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:45:37 -0400 Don't you believe any of this Ann Coulter clap-trap. This is all a set up by the folks on the right trying to convince the liberals in Congress to give Miers a pass. DB ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 07:59:27 -0700 On 6 Oct 2005 09:02:32 -0700, polasus@my-deja.com wrote: >You really owe it to yourself to slap on Bob's Time Out of Mind CD. >The songs there are to an older person's maturity what the Highway >61/Blonde on Blonde tunes were to a young man's psssion. It is almost >-- almost -- as good as Blood on the Tracks, and that isn't something I >say lightly. Absolutly....One of the best albums of the last 10 years or so if you ask me...... JonP ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anne laiid her head in the roses............ Date: 7 Oct 2005 08:02:15 -0700 Don Bean wrote: > you know bush is an idiot when people on the right are slamming him (for > good cause though) The thing is, GWB is *always* underestimated. His unsophisticated nature totally disarms his opponents. He very well be a moron, but his staff (Rove) has been able to utilize this to an advantage. There is more to this Miers nomination than meets the eye I think. We'll see. Kurt ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:19:11 -0400 Thus spake Jperdue4@aol.com... > On 6 Oct 2005 09:02:32 -0700, polasus@my-deja.com wrote: > > >You really owe it to yourself to slap on Bob's Time Out of Mind CD. > >The songs there are to an older person's maturity what the Highway > >61/Blonde on Blonde tunes were to a young man's psssion. It is almost > >-- almost -- as good as Blood on the Tracks, and that isn't something I > >say lightly. > > Absolutly....One of the best albums of the last 10 years or so if you > ask me...... I know a lot of people think so, but I listened to it on the 'phones' at Borders and it was like rubbing sandpaper in my ears. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:24:19 GMT brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake jkezwind@comcastDOTnet... > >>On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:19:05 -0700, leftie wrote: >> >> >>>Ray wrote: >>> >>> >>>>4) Ethiopiques, Vol. 4: Ethio Jazz & Musique Instrumentale, 1969-1974 >>>>As you can see I've been on something of an African kick of late. This >>>>is a compilation with most contributions by Ethiopean jazz >>>>musician/arranger Mulatu Astatqe. Jammin' Ethiopian funk-soul-jazz >>>>accented with Ethiopian roots music - works quite well. >>> >>>I love this disc! >> >>Now where else but rmgd would you find two people who are into >>Ethiopian music? Other than Ethiopia, that is. > > > Hey, me three! Add me to the list. I've been recommending these discs to RMG for years. Glad to know the word of mouth is getting out. The first 7 or 8 are essential IMO. -JC ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:23:53 -0400 band beyond description wrote: > On 2005-10-07 01:21:25 +0900, JC Martin said: > >> marklaw wrote: >> >>> Performance pretty good for old geezers. >>> >>> Recording quality a major disappointment. >>> >>> In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live >>> recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on archive.org? >> >> >> >> Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, yet >> soulless vampin'. >> >> -JC > > > there! you said it! but i heard the bootlegs and occasional lack of > sound quality could be forgiven, but not the underlying stuff which you > so eloquently describe. Well, that sure justifies my decision not pay $400 a ticket to see these guys at MSG later this month. The $22.50 per ticket I spent to get Umphrey's McGee tix for the two Irving Plaza shows the week before is looking to be a much better investment. DB ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:28:02 GMT Greg Sasso wrote: > James Carter's jazz tribute to Pavement. I jumped off the James Carter bandwagon years back...but this sounds interesting, almost impossible to believe really. -JC ------------------------------ From: "chosney" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 08:44:07 -0700 Morrisey - Live at Earl's Court David Mead - Live at Satalla - July 23rd, 2005 (on archive.org). Rolling Stones - Bigger Bang Ryan Adams - Jacksonville City Nights (Really Good!) and Sting when my wife is in charge of the music. ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Wah Advice... Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:47:37 -0400 MisTerGyRo wrote: > I am thinking about buying a wah and wanted your opinion. I play with > > an vintage 1966 Deluxe reverb and a semi hollowbody. I kind of like > that > >>SRV/TREY/even FUNKADELIEC STYLE (PHISH) sound.....What would you recommend? I have this one. Lots of adjustment options: http://www.analogman.com/mccoy.htm True bypass, 9V. Matt ------------------------------ From: "chosney" Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: 7 Oct 2005 08:48:31 -0700 I can find plenty of justification for not paying $400 to see anyone, even it is awesome. Not sure how any band is worth that. ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Happy B'day Ace Hall Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:48:52 -0400 Dave Kelly wrote: > 10/6/47 - Bob Weir (Robert Hall) of the Grateful Dead is born in San > Francisco. > > Hey my son was born on 10/6, so I'll choose to interpret your misplaced birthday greeting to Bobby as really being intended for him. Thanks for the birthday cheer! DB ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? Date: 7 Oct 2005 08:58:18 -0700 amen to that! been listening to a Van show from July of this year, the Hebridean Celtic Festival at Lews Castle in Scotland, that I took a shot on from that radiorarities.com site. Hey, $5.99 what the hell, it was a nice extra for the wife's birthday, as she is also a major fan of the Man. It's a fair-to-middlin quality aud, but a very lively and well-played show - great setlist. Lemme know if you want a B&P - as I said, not the best sound, but very interesting nonetheless. Celtic Swing, Have I Told You Lately [Las Vegas version], Days Like This, Stop Drinking, Bright Side Of The Road, All Work And No Play, Baby Please Don't Go, All Saints Day, Moondance, Here Comes The Night, Jackie Wilson Said, Cleaning Windows, Back On Top, Don't Worry About A Thing, Wonderful Remark, Help Me [false start], Irish Heartbeat, Celtic New Year, Precious Time [scat ending], Northern Muse (Solid Ground), Star Of The County Down, Brown Eyed Girl, Gloria. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .