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Dead-Flames Digest #518, Volume #48               Thu, 6 Oct 05 21:00:01 PDT

Contents:
  Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: Wah Advice... (JimK)
  Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: Happy B'day Ace Hall (band beyond description)
  Re: Best mixed show... ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("ck")
  Re: gd1976-06-29 bertha.flac ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("The Iron Muffin")
  Re: Best mixed show... (the.stugots@gmail.com)
  Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) (Tom Beck)
  Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately? ("frndthdevl")
  Re: Wah Advice... (Mark Geiger)
  Re: Wah Advice... (kpnnews@yahoo.com)
  Re: separated at birth (GD content) ("Bill")
  Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) (band beyond description)
  Re: separated at birth (GD content) (Greg)
  Anne laiid her head   in the roses............ ("ck")

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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: New rackmount gear...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:07:08 -0400

Richard Morris wrote:
> The Iron Muffin wrote:

> > Hey now, my freaky darlings.
> >
> > Those of you with musical proclivities will appreciate this:
> >
> > I have recently acquired a Lexicon MX200 digital reverb
> > and effects processor, and a Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro
> > is winging its way to me as I write this.  They join my old
> > Midiverb 4 and my Fuhrman power conditioner in the rack.
> >
> > My powers are growing with every passing moment!
> >
> > Next on my list are a rackmount tuner and a rackmount
> > equalizer.  I am looking at the dbx 231 equalizer, and
> > the Korg DTR-2000 tuner.  Anybody have experience
> > with these tools?
>
> A guitar playing friend sez rack-mount tuners are not a
> particularly good investment.  Actually, he doesn't like
> electronic tuners much at all--says that they only approximate,
> and that ear is best.

Well, yeah, of course ear is best...but sometimes crowd noise
prevents one from using that method.

> Putting one in a rack means you have to lug it around, and
> means you can't separate it from you practice rig if, like most
> folks I know, you don't bring full gear to rehearsals.

I don't mind lugging my rack box around.  It's not very heavy
(even full), and I like having my effects available.  Besides, a
tuner isn't something I would want to remove for rehearsal.

> How does he tune?  To the keyboard, initially, then by ear.
> The bass player has a tiny portable tuner that he brings to gigs
> and to rehearsals ... about the size of a deck of playing cards.

Yah, I have a small Korg tuner that I use now, as well as a Boss
TU-2 stompbox tuner, but I don't really like either of them and
almost always end up using a tuning fork in quiet settings.

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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From: JimK <jkezwind@comcastDOTnet>
Subject: Re: Wah Advice...
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:00:59 -0400
Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net

On 6 Oct 2005 16:00:04 -0700, "MisTerGyRo" <MisTerGyRo@aol.com> wrote:

>I am thinking about buying a wah and wanted your opinion. 

Are they cheaper than vowels?

JimK

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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: New rackmount gear...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:09:12 -0400

wyeknot wrote:
> Richard Morris wrote:
> > The Iron Muffin wrote:

> >>Next on my list are a rackmount tuner and a rackmount
> >>equalizer.  I am looking at the dbx 231 equalizer, and
> >>the Korg DTR-2000 tuner.  Anybody have experience
> >>with these tools?
> >
> > A guitar playing friend sez rack-mount tuners are not a particularly
good
> > investment.  Actually, he doesn't like electronic tuners much at
all--says
> > that they only approximate, and that ear is best.  Putting one in a rack
> > means you have to lug it around, and means you can't separate it from
you
> > practice rig if, like most folks I know, you don't bring full gear to
> > rehearsals.
> >
> > How does he tune?  To the keyboard, initially, then by ear.  The bass
player
> > has a tiny portable tuner that he brings to gigs and to rehearsals ...
about
> > the size of a deck of playing cards.
>
> I'd find it impossible to tune by ear in some of the places I play, pubs
> mostly.  Heck, the aural combination of statements like "you guys rock,"
> "that was awesome," and "Freebird!" makes tuning non-electronically very
> difficult.

Right!

> At this point though, I'm just plugging an acoustic guitar into the
> board and use an Intellitouch vibrational tuner on the headstock.  No
> need for a rack with my setup.

Lucky bastard.  I'm contending with trying to work up viable setups
for electric guitar, electric/acoustic guitar, and electric bass.

Why did I have to pick such an expensive hobby?

*sigh*

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: New rackmount gear...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:14:00 -0400

Steve Terry wrote:
> wyeknot wrote:

> > At this point though, I'm just plugging an acoustic guitar into the
> > board and use an Intellitouch vibrational tuner on the headstock.
>
> That's what I use.

So you guys run straight signal into the board?

Do you have onboard effects on your mixers, or are you playing dry?

I use a bit of chorus and reverb with my electric/acoustic.  It gives it a
nice, full, warm sound.

The "de-tune" setting on the Lexicon is quite interesting, too...

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: New rackmount gear...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:14:46 -0400

king88uy7 wrote:

> You can play like every Def Leppard tune ever with that gear.  Sick!

*bonk*

Yeesh.

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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From: band beyond description <123@456.com>
Subject: Re: Happy B'day Ace Hall
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:13:39 +0900

On 2005-10-07 07:11:36 +0900, "Dave Kelly" <sweetbac@pacbell.net> said:

> 
> "brew ziggins" <osmirc@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:MPG.1daf61fa45740b25989809@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
>> Thus spake sweetbac@pacbell.net...
>>> 10/6/47 - Bob Weir (Robert Hall) of the Grateful Dead is born in San
>>> Francisco.
>> 
>> Dude, I think you're ten days early. Too much Newcastle Brown?
> 
> * Never MIND all that!...it's past 3PM...why don't you go grab
> a broom and sweep out the Science Department.
> Did you forget the "A clean Cornell is a SMART Cornell" oath?
> Anyone else wanna fuck with me?
> ( insert little winky emotocon )

too funny... ;-)
-- 
Peace,
Steve


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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: Best mixed show...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:26:51 -0400

the.stugots@gmail.com wrote:

> does this make sense
> or had all the acis taken its toll?

But they're all bold as love...
Yes, they're all bold as love...
Just ask the Acis.

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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From: "ck" <cpkver8@BURDENadelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:20:16 -0400


"leftie" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:di436q$1uvp$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Grateful Dead, 6/20/74, Atlanta, GA
>    great stuff, thanks rmgd for pointing it out
>
> Widespread Panic, 7/8/05, 7/9/05 & 7/10/05 Greek Theater Berkeley
>    nice run of shows, the sbd downloads sound great
>
> Grace Potter & The Nocturnals, Nothing But The Water
>    she's only 22 years old?!??!?  No way! The woman's gots some soul!

 The cash register ringing up in acct's receivable baby!



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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: gd1976-06-29 bertha.flac
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:29:54 -0400

RickNBarbInSD wrote:
> leftie wrote:

> > > > > Now, what is the speed of a fully laden sparrow?
> > > >
> > > > English or African?
> > >
> > > African or European!  Not English!  Sheesh!
> >
> > Hey! It's been 20+ years since I've seen that flick.
>
> What, the curtains?

She's got huge...TRACTS OF LAND!

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
From: "The Iron Muffin" <You must ask me for my email address.>
Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:31:52 -0400

JimK wrote:

> Steve Kimock Band - 10/1/05
>
> I'm not a card carrying member of Kamp Kimock, but this one
> could make me join up. Streaming from archive and the sound
> quality is stunning for mp3. There's a dynamic to Kimock's
> playing in this show that I really haven't heard before. Can't
> wait to download it.

Resistance is futile.

-- 
The Iron Muffin

     DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you?  Where are you?

             How are you?



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From: the.stugots@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Best mixed show...
Date: 6 Oct 2005 19:30:55 -0700

i ain't never had no cause for book learnin...

just axe acis,
she knows everything

-m


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From: Tom Beck <trbeck@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:42:18 -0500

bigamps wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> So everybody already knew Delay was a crook, how does that imply they 
> didn't give his side fair hearing before they indicted him?  It takes 
> more than just one grand juror's vote to indict.

As a general rule, lawyers for the accused cannot argue
for their client during grand jury proceedings.

Tom


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From: "frndthdevl" <frndthdevl@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Watchya Listenin' To Lately?
Date: 6 Oct 2005 19:38:54 -0700


JimK wrote:
There's a dynamic to Kimock's playing in this show that I
> really haven't heard before.

yeah, Robert Walter is there, so it is not Kimock all night long.
peace
jeff



for those with the "other" satrad service

>On Sunday, October 16th Robert Walter will be featured on XM 72 Beyond
>Jazz along with fellow Californian, Karl Denson.  The two will discuss
>growing up in San Diego, The Greyboy Allstars, and their various other
>projects.  The interview will consist of multiple segments, each
>followed by musical interludes and will air from 9am to 9pm PST.  Be
>sure to tune in!


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From: Mark Geiger <mageiger@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Wah Advice...
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:13:34 GMT

MisTerGyRo wrote:
> I am thinking about buying a wah and wanted your opinion.  I  play with
> 
> an vintage 1966 Deluxe reverb and a semi hollowbody.  I kind of like
> that
> 
>>SRV/TREY/even FUNKADELIEC STYLE (PHISH) sound.....What would you recommend?
> 
>

Before you buy, try out the Hendrix pedal from Digitech.  It nicely 
models the wahs from Voodoo Chile and Watchtower.  Also caputures a lot 
of the Hendrix strat shimmer from Little Wing and a nice dose of 
Univibe.  Probably run you about 200 or so.  A new Dunlop wah should 
have a street price of about 80.

Mark

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From: kpnnews@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Wah Advice...
Date: 6 Oct 2005 19:49:16 -0700


MisTerGyRo wrote:
> I am thinking about buying a wah and wanted your opinion.

I have an old Morley AC powered pedal. It has a tone knob
and a gain knob, two switches for wah and "gain", and the
rocker itself. You know, I have played other DC/battery
powered deals, but eventhough mine has wicked hum, they
just don't have the balls. You know? I rock back on that
sucker and I can peel paint off the walls. I have yet to
experience a wah-wah that comes close in intensity.

Kurt


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From: "Bill" <notes@music.com>
Subject: Re: separated at birth (GD content)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:09:31 GMT

Dan Quayle and John Roberts (new member of the Supreme Court)

They think alike too apparently.



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From: band beyond description <123@456.com>
Subject: Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:12:17 +0900

On 2005-10-07 02:28:52 +0900, "Roxanne McDaniel" <theothr1@sbcglobal.net> said:

> http://tinyurl.com/avh2z

See it if you can...whereever you are...
-- 
Peace,
Steve


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From: Greg <see_sig@abc.xyz>
Subject: Re: separated at birth (GD content)
Reply-To: see_sig
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:16:35 GMT

"Bill" <notes@music.com> wrote:

>Dan Quayle and John Roberts (new member of the Supreme Court)

That is actually Pat Sajak of Wheel of Fortune next to Dan Quayle.

The one of Dick Cheney and the Penguin is great!

--
Greg
phobos78-marslink-net
Replace dashes and move in by 1 planet to reply.

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From: "ck" <cpkver8@BURDENadelphia.net>
Subject: Anne laiid her head   in the roses............
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 23:29:21 -0400


THIS IS WHAT 'ADVICE AND CONSENT' MEANS
October 5, 2005


I eagerly await the announcement of President Bush's real nominee to the
Supreme Court. If the president meant Harriet Miers seriously, I have to
assume Bush wants to go back to Crawford and let Dick Cheney run the
country.

Unfortunately for Bush, he could nominate his Scottish terrier Barney, and
some conservatives would rush to defend him, claiming to be in possession of
secret information convincing them that the pooch is a true conservative and
listing Barney's many virtues - loyalty, courage, never jumps on the
furniture ...

Harriet Miers went to Southern Methodist University Law School, which is not
ranked at all by the serious law school reports and ranked No. 52 by US News
and World Report. Her greatest legal accomplishment is being the first woman
commissioner of the Texas Lottery.

I know conservatives have been trained to hate people who went to elite
universities, and generally that's a good rule of thumb. But not when it
comes to the Supreme Court.

First, Bush has no right to say "Trust me." He was elected to represent the
American people, not to be dictator for eight years. Among the coalitions
that elected Bush are people who have been laboring in the trenches for a
quarter-century to change the legal order in America. While Bush was still
boozing it up in the early '80s, Ed Meese, Antonin Scalia, Robert Bork and
all the founders of the Federalist Society began creating a farm team of
massive legal talent on the right.

To casually spurn the people who have been taking slings and arrows all
these years and instead reward the former commissioner of the Texas Lottery
with a Supreme Court appointment is like pinning a medal of honor on some
flunky paper-pusher with a desk job at the Pentagon - or on John Kerry -
while ignoring your infantrymen doing the fighting and dying.

Second, even if you take seriously William F. Buckley's line about
preferring to be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston telephone
book than by the Harvard faculty, the Supreme Court is not supposed to
govern us. Being a Supreme Court justice ought to be a mind-numbingly
tedious job suitable only for super-nerds trained in legal reasoning like
John Roberts. Being on the Supreme Court isn't like winning a "Best Employee
of the Month" award. It's a real job.

One Web site defending Bush's choice of a graduate from an undistinguished
law school complains that Miers' critics "are playing the Democrats' game,"
claiming that the "GOP is not the party which idolizes Ivy League
acceptability as the criterion of intellectual and mental fitness." (In the
sort of error that results from trying to sound "Ivy League" rather than
being clear, that sentence uses the grammatically incorrect "which" instead
of "that." Web sites defending the academically mediocre would be a lot more
convincing without all the grammatical errors.)

Actually, all the intellectual firepower in the law is coming from
conservatives right now - and thanks for noticing! Liberals got stuck trying
to explain Roe v. Wade and are still at work 30 years later trying to come
up with a good argument.

But the main point is: Au contraire! It is conservatives defending Miers'
mediocre resume who are playing the Democrats' game. Contrary to recent
practice, the job of being a Supreme Court justice is not to be a
philosopher-king. Only someone who buys into the liberals' view of Supreme
Court justices as philosopher-kings could hold legal training irrelevant to
a job on the Supreme Court.

To be sure, if we were looking for philosopher-kings, an SMU law grad would
probably be preferable to a graduate from an elite law school. But if we're
looking for lawyers with giant brains to memorize obscure legal cases and to
compose clearly reasoned opinions about ERISA pre-emption, the doctrine of
equivalents in patent law, limitation of liability in admiralty, and
supplemental jurisdiction under Section 1367 - I think we want the nerd from
an elite law school. Bush may as well appoint his chauffeur head of NASA as
put Miers on the Supreme Court.

Third and finally, some jobs are so dirty, you can only send in someone who
has the finely honed hatred of liberals acquired at elite universities to do
them. The devil is an abstraction for normal, decent Americans living in the
red states. By contrast, at the top universities, you come face to face with
the devil every day, and you learn all his little tropes and tricks.

Conservatives from elite schools have already been subjected to liberal
blandishments and haven't blinked. These are right-wingers who have fought
off the best and the brightest the blue states have to offer. The New York
Times isn't going to mau-mau them - as it does intellectual lightweights
like Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chafee - by dangling fawning profiles before
them. They aren't waiting for a pat on the head from Nina Totenberg or Linda
Greenhouse. To paraphrase Archie Bunker, when you find a conservative from
an elite law school, you've really got something.

However nice, helpful, prompt and tidy she is, Harriet Miers isn't qualified
to play a Supreme Court justice on "The West Wing," let alone to be a real
one. Both Republicans and Democrats should be alarmed that Bush seems to
believe his power to appoint judges is absolute. This is what "advice and
consent" means.

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