From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #511 Dead-Flames Digest #511, Volume #48 Thu, 6 Oct 05 11:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall (leftie) Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! (brew ziggins) New rackmount gear... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: *heh* ("garciyalater@hotmail.com") Re: greatest song ever ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Favorite Space ("Carlisle") Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall (naught@nil.com) Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Ray") Re: archive.org? ("Nick's Picks") Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: Better Sox win again... (DG) Re: I'm quitting my job.... (DG) Re: archive.org? ("Jamie Fisher") Re: Baseball playoffs: don't get me started! (NDC) ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: tmnsp.net (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("RickNBarbInSD") Got Organic Milk? ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! (Gladys) Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall ("Richard Morris") Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: New rackmount gear... ("Richard Morris") Re: Pride of Man (NDC) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: tmnsp.net ("Richard Morris") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Tribal stomp ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leftie Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:37:40 -0700 naught@nil.com wrote: > brew ziggins wrote: > >>Thus spake jcmartin@sonic.net... >> >>>marklaw wrote: >>> >>>>Performance pretty good for old geezers. >>>> >>>>Recording quality a major disappointment. >>>> >>>>In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live >>>>recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on archive.org? >>> >>>Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, yet >>>soulless vampin'. >> >>That's harsh, dude! But I kinda agree with you. > Could it be any less interesting than listening to Muddy Waters do a one > chord vamp for a half hour? Yes. ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:42:39 -0400 Thus spake jkezwind@comcastDOTnet... > On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:18:04 -0400, brew ziggins > wrote: > > >Thus spake DFspamoffskiBayne@aol.com... > >> Tim Ujin wrote: > >> > Here is how I see it: > >> > > >> > SNIP > >> > > >> > 9/21/72 : best show ever; best Dark Star ever. No shit. Very strong > >> > He's Gone, Truckin' Cumberland Blues, GDRFB and a bunch of others. > >> > > >> > SNIP > >> > >> The 9/21 Dark Star was used at the Jerry Memorial at Golden Gate Park in > >> '95 according to my notes. So someone must agree with you. > > > >9/21/72 may very well have not even been the best show (or Dark Star) > >that week. But we'll never know; scientists have yet to develop a way of > >measuring how On Fire the band was the last quarter of 1972. > > But we know for certain it was the best show that day. ....and that It Actually Happened -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: New rackmount gear... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:56:15 -0400 Hey now, my freaky darlings. Those of you with musical proclivities will appreciate this: I have recently acquired a Lexicon MX200 digital reverb and effects processor, and a Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro is winging its way to me as I write this. They join my old Midiverb 4 and my Fuhrman power conditioner in the rack. My powers are growing with every passing moment! Next on my list are a rackmount tuner and a rackmount equalizer. I am looking at the dbx 231 equalizer, and the Korg DTR-2000 tuner. Anybody have experience with these tools? -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "garciyalater@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: *heh* Date: 6 Oct 2005 09:49:49 -0700 absolutley....... a help-->slip->franklins as good as any other..... a monster scarlet-->fire and a diggity Terrapin..... not to mention the So Many Roads and Althea...... every tune played is so well done it could be released as a "compilation of hits" ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: 6 Oct 2005 09:51:19 -0700 Shawn Lucas wrote: > On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:51:33 -0700, "Andrew Murawa" > > >9. Okay, lemme press my luck with Help>Slip>Frank > > Sheesh..lts about time one of you slackers dropped Franklin's into the > mix...I was afraid I'd have to post it myself. > > > Oh and I feel obliged to post everyone's favorite: > > "-->JAM-->..." > > Shawn Yeah. I wuz gonna say >Space>. Rick ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 6 Oct 2005 09:52:25 -0700 "Pigs in Space" http://www.the-bridge.net/~jpetro24/pigsinsp.jpg ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:50:07 +0000 (UTC) leftie wrote: > naught@nil.com wrote: > >> brew ziggins wrote: >> >>>Thus spake jcmartin@sonic.net... >>> >>>>marklaw wrote: >>>> >>>>>Performance pretty good for old geezers. >>>>> >>>>>Recording quality a major disappointment. >>>>> >>>>>In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live >>>>>recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on archive.org? >>>> >>>>Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, yet >>>>soulless vampin'. >>> >>>That's harsh, dude! But I kinda agree with you. > >> Could it be any less interesting than listening to Muddy Waters do a one >> chord vamp for a half hour? > > Yes. LOL ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: 6 Oct 2005 09:55:51 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > Gotta love old Alex............ > > Always trying to do the right thing, except when he got carried away. Too > bad he named Duer his chief deputy, a man with no qualifications other than > being his good buddy. Hamilton could have avoided tremendous scandal if he > went with someone with financial experience, but he wanted his pal on his > right hand....... the first documented case of insider trading was the > result. Yup. Then of course there was Hamilton's ongoing, compulsive affair with Maria Reynolds, in which he paid ongoing blackmail money to Maria's husband while having sexual liasons with her. First major US govt sex scandel, far surpassing Bill and Monica's relatively tame affair. > I so wish we were watching him and Adams and Jefferson and Madison trying to > publicly destroy each other instead of the current crop of political midgets > trying to destroy each other. In fairness to Adams, while he certainly had his moments he was not nearly as politically brutal as Hamilton and Jefferson - those two really played hardball, against each other and others. > The Founders were far more vicious and personal in their attacks and > campaigns against each others' very existence than the comparatively tame > and polite politics of today, At the politican level I agree. However on the non-politican level I think the propaganda and rhetoric is as vicious today as it's ever been. > but somehow the hateful back and forth was on > a far higher level than we see from our current crop of buffoons like Bush > and Kerry, as it included actual original thinking......... Yeah - unlike today's major political leaders, the major political leaders of the Founding era were true statesmen. (With some expections, for example Burr.) That said I don't see Kerry, or any other major Democratic figure, on the same political hardball level as Bush, or rather on the same level as Rove and DeLay. Rove and DeLay (and others) play political hardball in a way that the Dems don't, and I think that's part of the Dems' problem (in terms of losing elections) - at the national political level, not even Democratic pit bulls (relatively speaking) like Dean have the stomach to go that low (and, in DeLay's case, that flagrantly illegal). YMMV. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 09:57:11 -0700 I've been downloading 2-3 shows a time at 9-16mb over the last couple days. up and running, she is!! ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:57:51 -0700 Brad Greer wrote: > >DG wrote: > >>The value they add is the aftermarket. > >They create an aftermarket that doesn't necessarily need to exist. Huh? ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: Better Sox win again... Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:02:09 -0700 Schmoe wrote: > >Steve Terry wrote: >> Was that Bill Buckner out there at second base for the Redhose? > >I seem to recall a Sox team coming back from a 0-3 deficit last year in the >playoffs. Does lightening strike twice for the same ballclub? Stay >tuned...same bat channel... Taking all bets. I get the White Sox. ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: I'm quitting my job.... Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:07:21 -0700 Ben wrote: > >I've been criticized for bitching about my job here before, but I'm >finally quitting it. > >I'm sort of counting my chickens before they hatch, but I believe I'll >get this one with no major problems and when I do, I'll get an >effective salary increase of up to 66%. > >All I can say is 'fuck yeah' and 'fuck you' to my current boss. > >Plus, with this new job, I'll be about an hour away from Red Rocks. > >How's that for a fringe benefit? Take your old co-workers out to dinner to say good bye. Have fun on the front range. I love it out there. ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Fisher" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:08:14 GMT Nothing like kicking a man we he's down... I wish I was too Nick!!! -Jamie "Nick's Picks" wrote in message news:1128617831.183008.228310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've been downloading 2-3 shows a time at 9-16mb over the last couple > days. up and running, she is!! > ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: Baseball playoffs: don't get me started! (NDC) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:08:15 GMT "Rick L" wrote in message . Roxanne McDaniel" wrote in message ... White Sox! White Sox! White Sox! ************************************ What she said. ********************** Boy, sure is chilly in this thread. Feels like a cold wind from the north east... ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: tmnsp.net Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 12:45:53 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > > "3three3" wrote in message > news:1128571412.152959.274690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > >i wasnt sure how many people use/used this bit torrent site, but > > theyve made some changes and its looking like if you were previously > > banned b/c of your share ratio you can go join up again if you want > > just thought id post a heads up > > take it easy > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > http://tmnsp.net/forums.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=713&page=p3100#3100 > > > > As twiley previously announced, tmnsp.net is undergoing some major > > internal alterations. Besides some basic code fixing/streamlining, we > > are pleased to announce the following changes: > > > > 1. Until further notice, THERE IS NO LONGER A SHARE RATIO REQUIREMENT. > > 2. All users that were banned can now rejoin! (Tell your friends that > > may have been banned!) > > 3. All accounts that were disabled have now been ENABLED! > > > > While the penalties for a low share ratio have been eliminated, it is > > important that we remember the importance of "giving back." Staff will > > still be monitoring users who abuse the tracker. See the updated > > Rules/FAQ (will be up shortly) for more detail. > > > > Please help spread this news to the rest of the trading community. > > Staff is very excited about this change and we hope that you are too. > > Whoop-te-do. What would really be nice would be if they would stop banning > certain ports ... 'cause I don't intend to reconfigure just to suit their > retentiveness. You only have to reconfig your client and firewall once. It's just as well to use non-standard ports (i.e. other than 6881-6888) as some ISPs are starting to restrict them to help cut back on bandwidth over-utilization. I've got my client set to use a very small range of ports somewhere above 40000. My firewall's been set up to forward those ports to a certain peecee on my LAN. The setup works like a charm, regardless of whether a torrent's being seeded at tmnsp, dimeadozen, thetradersden, or etree. I haven't had to touch a setting since I first reconfigured for tmnsp ~9 months ago. ~Ted ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: 6 Oct 2005 10:10:52 -0700 frndthdevl wrote: Much jazzier than one might think. 'Zakly!!!!!!!!! Rick ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Got Organic Milk? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:10:02 GMT Maybe not.... http://dragonflymedia.com/portal/2005/09/organicmilk.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:12:44 -0600 From: Gladys Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! frndthdevl wrote: > Gladys wrote: > > >>I saw them three times. Twice at Red Rocks, once as a headliner and the >>other time as the opener for the Allmans. > > > was that summer 74 at Mile High? > if so that WAS a great show. MTB blew the doors off ABB. Nope - it was at Red Rocks. Probably 1978 or 79. I did not see that '74 show. Gladys. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Cream at Royal Albert Hall Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:14:08 -0700 "brew ziggins" wrote in message news:MPG.1daf1ab2438dacfa989807@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Thus spake jcmartin@sonic.net... >> marklaw wrote: >> > Performance pretty good for old geezers. >> > >> > Recording quality a major disappointment. >> > >> > In this day and age, why can't a band like this come up with live >> > recording quality that approaches '60s and '70s GD shows on >> > archive.org? >> >> >> Shame on anyone for listening to this direction-less white blues, yet >> soulless vampin'. > > That's harsh, dude! But I kinda agree with you. Shame on anyone for telling anyone else what kind of music to listen to or enjoy. Especially when mis-categorizing the music in question. R. ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: 6 Oct 2005 10:22:42 -0700 Brad Greer wrote: > Obfuscation on your part, and I suspect intentionally. That's my guess. Rick ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:24:03 -0700 "Ray" wrote in message news:1128617751.078075.221120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> Gotta love old Alex............ >> >> Always trying to do the right thing, except when he got carried away. >> Too >> bad he named Duer his chief deputy, a man with no qualifications other >> than >> being his good buddy. Hamilton could have avoided tremendous scandal if >> he >> went with someone with financial experience, but he wanted his pal on his >> right hand....... the first documented case of insider trading was the >> result. > Yup. Then of course there was Hamilton's ongoing, compulsive affair > with Maria Reynolds, in which he paid ongoing blackmail money to > Maria's husband while having sexual liasons with her. First major US > govt sex scandel, far surpassing Bill and Monica's relatively tame > affair. Hamilton was a very busy man......... A real giant, even with all of his scandals and his irresistible urges to share with everyone every opinion he ever had. Meanwhile, Jefferson was banging a 14 year old slave and living like an oriental potentate despite his public persona as the savior of the yeoman farmer. Its hard to take seriously the private foibles of current pols. Not only can't they compete intellectually or in the demonstration of courage, the current financial and sex scandals pale in comparison to those of the Founders. They did everything in a big way. >> I so wish we were watching him and Adams and Jefferson and Madison trying >> to >> publicly destroy each other instead of the current crop of political >> midgets >> trying to destroy each other. > In fairness to Adams, while he certainly had his moments he was not > nearly as politically brutal as Hamilton and Jefferson - those two > really played hardball, against each other and others. Yup. But Adams did his share of poking as well. Like all the others, he ghost wrote various columns and pamphlets bashing his opponents, and certainly used his correspondence with friends to vent his personal venom. But he did stick to a bit higher ground than the others. He doesn't come close to Hamilton, the most verbose and prolific writer in the history of the country. No one does. >> The Founders were far more vicious and personal in their attacks and >> campaigns against each others' very existence than the comparatively tame >> and polite politics of today, > At the politican level I agree. However on the non-politican level I > think the propaganda and rhetoric is as vicious today as it's ever > been. Instead of being actual men and saying all those horrible things themselves, our current batch of mental midgets use surrogates to do their dirty deeds. It had more punch when it came from some Founder using a Roman name; a name everyone knew meant Hamilton, Jefferson, Clinton, Burr, Madison, Adams, etc. >> but somehow the hateful back and forth was on >> a far higher level than we see from our current crop of buffoons like >> Bush >> and Kerry, as it included actual original thinking......... > Yeah - unlike today's major political leaders, the major political > leaders of the Founding era were true statesmen. (With some > expections, for example Burr.) And Clinton, the first parochial local political baron with national influence. > That said I don't see Kerry, or any other major Democratic figure, on > the same political hardball level as Bush, or rather on the same level > as Rove and DeLay. Rove and DeLay (and others) play political hardball > in a way that the Dems don't, and I think that's part of the Dems' > problem (in terms of losing elections) - at the national political > level, not even Democratic pit bulls (relatively speaking) like Dean > have the stomach to go that low (and, in DeLay's case, that flagrantly > illegal). YMMV. Instead of being consistent in their attacks over the course of decades, pounding the American psyche with buzzwords and catch phrases until they are accepted as universal truth, they hit and run, shifting from one minor scandal to another. Not to mention that they will never be as organized as the Republicans, mainly because they don't all agree on everything like Republicans do. Gross generalization: Democrats attack individuals, Republicans attack a philosophy (one they themselves mostly created as their opposition). EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: New rackmount gear... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:24:01 -0700 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:4eOdnQP_OpIOyNjeRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > Hey now, my freaky darlings. > > Those of you with musical proclivities will appreciate this: > > I have recently acquired a Lexicon MX200 digital reverb > and effects processor, and a Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro > is winging its way to me as I write this. They join my old > Midiverb 4 and my Fuhrman power conditioner in the rack. > > My powers are growing with every passing moment! > > Next on my list are a rackmount tuner and a rackmount > equalizer. I am looking at the dbx 231 equalizer, and > the Korg DTR-2000 tuner. Anybody have experience > with these tools? A guitar playing friend sez rack-mount tuners are not a particularly good investment. Actually, he doesn't like electronic tuners much at all--says that they only approximate, and that ear is best. Putting one in a rack means you have to lug it around, and means you can't separate it from you practice rig if, like most folks I know, you don't bring full gear to rehearsals. How does he tune? To the keyboard, initially, then by ear. The bass player has a tiny portable tuner that he brings to gigs and to rehearsals ... about the size of a deck of playing cards. YMMV ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Pride of Man (NDC) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:26:11 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:nMSdnbYCaLik1djeRVn-rg@comcast.com... > Hamilton Camp, songwriter, musician, actor ... recently passed. > > Some of us remember the tune he wrote, "Pride of Man", from the > Quicksilver days. A song I really thought would have been great for the GD in the 90's. A song I still think would be great for Ratdog. Didn't Phil do this a couple of times? EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:28:52 GMT http://tinyurl.com/avh2z ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: tmnsp.net Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:29:43 -0700 "The Lord of Eltingville" wrote in message news:di3kkt02r0@news1.newsguy.com... > Richard Morris wrote: >> >> "3three3" wrote in message >> news:1128571412.152959.274690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> >i wasnt sure how many people use/used this bit torrent site, but >> > theyve made some changes and its looking like if you were previously >> > banned b/c of your share ratio you can go join up again if you want >> > just thought id post a heads up >> > take it easy >> > >> > _______________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > http://tmnsp.net/forums.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=713&page=p3100#3100 >> > >> > As twiley previously announced, tmnsp.net is undergoing some major >> > internal alterations. Besides some basic code fixing/streamlining, we >> > are pleased to announce the following changes: >> > >> > 1. Until further notice, THERE IS NO LONGER A SHARE RATIO REQUIREMENT. >> > 2. All users that were banned can now rejoin! (Tell your friends that >> > may have been banned!) >> > 3. All accounts that were disabled have now been ENABLED! >> > >> > While the penalties for a low share ratio have been eliminated, it is >> > important that we remember the importance of "giving back." Staff will >> > still be monitoring users who abuse the tracker. See the updated >> > Rules/FAQ (will be up shortly) for more detail. >> > >> > Please help spread this news to the rest of the trading community. >> > Staff is very excited about this change and we hope that you are too. >> >> Whoop-te-do. What would really be nice would be if they would stop >> banning >> certain ports ... 'cause I don't intend to reconfigure just to suit their >> retentiveness. > > You only have to reconfig your client and firewall once. It's just as > well to use non-standard ports (i.e. other than 6881-6888) as some ISPs > are starting to restrict them to help cut back on bandwidth > over-utilization. > > I've got my client set to use a very small range of ports somewhere > above 40000. My firewall's been set up to forward those ports to a > certain peecee on my LAN. > > The setup works like a charm, regardless of whether a torrent's being > seeded at tmnsp, dimeadozen, thetradersden, or etree. I haven't had to > touch a setting since I first reconfigured for tmnsp ~9 months ago. Yes ... but you know what you are doing! I stumbled through it months ago, and I doubt if I could remember what to do if someone were standing behind me with a pistol at my head. Perhaps if I can find the original site that I got the instructions from .... Being technology impaired is a curse! R. ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: 6 Oct 2005 10:29:51 -0700 Ray wrote: Rove and DeLay (and others) play political hardball > in a way that the Dems don't, > Ray Oh, do you mean dirty, crooked, unprincipled, immoral, unscrupulous, dishonorable, corrupt, and unethical?!?!?! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: The Future of Food in Chicago (ndc) Date: 6 Oct 2005 10:34:47 -0700 Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/avh2z http://datacore.sciflicks.com/soylent_green/sounds/soylent_green_from_people.wav ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Tribal stomp Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:35:07 -0700 "Deke_Rivers" wrote in message news:1128616629.880136.116870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Looking for a copy of the 1978 Tribal Stomp in Berkeley. Is it on any > online archive? > Thanks, > pierre Wow, if you find it, please post here. I was at that show, my last trip. As usual, all memories are odd snippets. I recall David LaFlamme coming out, waving his arms around, and saying "I see patterns, patterns". Lee Michaels scared me. Country Joe and the Fish terrified me, especially during Section 43. I recall Big Brother wearing shiny polyester shirts, which also scared me. That's the day I first met Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg as they played bongos in the aisles. More fear. We lost a friend on the way in, found seats way up in the grass, and 10 minutes later we all saw him as he waved at us across tens of thousands of people. A moment later he was sitting down next to us. This really weird super pale, almost transparent SF gay kid, dressed in a swastika t-shirt and looking like a frail proto-skinhead wanna be, kept groping this huge hairy biker guy in front of us. Scary day, whew. Wonder what the music sounded like.............. 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