From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #509 Dead-Flames Digest #509, Volume #48 Thu, 6 Oct 05 09:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Dead Download -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? (DB) Re: Better Sox win again... (bigamps) Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? (The Lord of Eltingville) archive.org? ("Jamie Fisher") Re: archive.org? ("Todd") Re: Better Sox win again... ("Schmoe") Re: *heh* ("garciyalater@hotmail.com") Re: archive.org? ("mr rapidan") Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. ("Schmoe") Re: Favorite Space (wyeknot) Re: archive.org? (DB) Re: No Direction Home (JonP) Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Ray") Re: Anyone go to the Harvest Festival? (JonP) Re: Favorite Space ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! (DB) Re: archive.org? ("Jamie Fisher") Re: archive.org? ("Todd") Re: archive.org? ("mr rapidan") Re: archive.org? (Kirk McElhearn) Re: Favorite Space (wyeknot) Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! (brew ziggins) Re: archive.org? ("Jamie Fisher") 21 years ago - 10/6/84 ("LP") Re: archive.org? ("Todd") Re: New Riders Of The Purple Sage This Weekend! (ba ba booie) Re: archive.org? ("mr rapidan") Re: Favorite Space ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: archive.org? ("Todd") Re: *heh* ("The Iron Muffin") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DB Subject: Re: Dead Download -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:33:01 -0400 Sorry for the typo in the original header. I wish the spell checker ought to check headers too. My bad. DB wrote: > They have got to be kidding, right? $12.75 in FLAC format for the > newest release and it is only one disc! I know 3/17/68 is not in > circulation and looks like it has a good set list: > > 1. Turn On Your Lovelight (Scott, Malone) > 2. That's It For The Other One > > Cryptical Envelopment > (Garcia) > The Other One > (Weir, Kreutzmann) > Cryptical Envelopment (Garcia) > 3. New Potato Caboose > (Lesh Peterson) > 4. China Cat Sunflower > (Garcia, Hunter) > 5. The Eleven > (Lesh, Hunter) > 6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > (Grateful Dead) > 7. Feedback Grateful Dead) > > But PlllLEEAAAASE. $12.75 is just price gouging, particularly when they > are selling a 3 disc set for what now seems like the reasonable price of > $19.90. It looks like the guys who run those greedy old men tours > (a/k/a Stones, Cream, McCartney, Aerosmith etc.) have now taken over > what's left of GDM. I'll take a pass on this one. > > DB ------------------------------ From: bigamps Subject: Re: Better Sox win again... Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:48:36 GMT Rogues Island's finest wrote: > bigamps wrote: > >>Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> >>>band beyond description wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On 2005-10-06 20:23:24 +0900, "Steve Terry" said: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Was that Bill Buckner out there at second base for the Redhose? >>>> >>>>ex-Bosox Cabrera helped the Angels win nicely today... >>>>-- >>>>Peace, >>>>Steve >>> >>> >>>Shaddup, all of you, just shaddup. >>> >>>Mark >> >>You first. > > > Feel free to not read my posts, asswipe. > > Mark > Feel free not to read my posts, or post anything yourself, shitbrains. ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Dead Dowqnload -- $12.75 for a single disc d/l??? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:34:31 -0400 DB wrote: > > They have got to be kidding, right? $12.75 in FLAC format for the > newest release and it is only one disc! I know 3/17/68 is not in > circulation and looks like it has a good set list: > > 1. Turn On Your Lovelight (Scott, Malone) > 2. That's It For The Other One > > Cryptical Envelopment > (Garcia) > The Other One > (Weir, Kreutzmann) > Cryptical Envelopment (Garcia) > 3. New Potato Caboose > (Lesh Peterson) > 4. China Cat Sunflower > (Garcia, Hunter) > 5. The Eleven > (Lesh, Hunter) > 6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > (Grateful Dead) > 7. Feedback Grateful Dead) > > But PlllLEEAAAASE. $12.75 is just price gouging, particularly when they > are selling a 3 disc set for what now seems like the reasonable price of > $19.90. It looks like the guys who run those greedy old men tours > (a/k/a Stones, Cream, McCartney, Aerosmith etc.) have now taken over > what's left of GDM. I'll take a pass on this one. > > DB Make sure you let them know. The only way they're going to consider a change in price is if enough people let them know that they'd be interested if the price was appropriate for a download. Complaining here won't do squat... ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Fisher" Subject: archive.org? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:26:26 GMT Anyone else having trouble? ------------------------------ From: "Todd" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 07:36:09 -0700 Jamie Fisher wrote: > Anyone else having trouble? Yeah- It's been down for two days now... ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Better Sox win again... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:39:05 -0400 Steve Terry wrote: > Was that Bill Buckner out there at second base for the Redhose? I seem to recall a Sox team coming back from a 0-3 deficit last year in the playoffs. Does lightening strike twice for the same ballclub? Stay tuned...same bat channel... ------------------------------ From: "garciyalater@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: *heh* Date: 6 Oct 2005 07:40:49 -0700 wow....you went out on a winner of a show.......I saw the dead only in what is described as their dark days, 92-->95......but I will put that 10/1/94 show up against any other from any era..... ------------------------------ From: "mr rapidan" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 07:41:33 -0700 It's working just fine for me. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:42:03 -0400 wyeknot wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> ba ba booie wrote: >>> bbb wrote: >>> Where is all the hash? >> >> I gave mine to some big guy at a show years ago to hold for me, but >> when I got back the fuckin' guy was gone! > > Whudda f*cking bastard!!! ....and he killed Kenny! ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:44:08 -0400 Nick's Picks wrote: > 10-15 has no space. just the "bob and jerry jam" > which...imo, is boaring. Oink, oink. OK, just a little ribbing. Now back to business - chop, chop. Matt ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:43:42 -0400 Jamie Fisher wrote: > Anyone else having trouble? > > No. It's same as it ever was. DB ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:53:16 -0700 On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 13:28:31 -0700, "Andrew Murawa" wrote: >"Shaun" wrote in message >news:1128269131.998184.171190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >I disagree... John Wesley Harding through Street Legal (with the >>>exception of only Self Portrait perhaps) are absolutely essential >>>Dylan >>>albums, >> >> Interesting... 'Cuz I kinda like Self Portrait (Don't know why, maybe >> it's the Isle of Wight songs included although I also love some of >> those cover songs he did on that one) but I have never understood >> Street Legal. Just never resonated with me. For me, that's the start >> of his decline. > >Never got into Self-Portrait, and Street Legal is perhaps my favorite >Dylan album... So, I guess we're exact opposites on these... > >> Are you including New Morning (which is OK, I guess) and (gulp) Dylan >> in that list? I'll grant you Planet Waves and Before the Flood >> though. >> BtF is one of my favorite live albums ever. That's the album to play >> when you want to show people that Dylan could indeed sing! > >You're right... Dylan does not belong on that list either, but I think >New Morning is a pretty damn good album... > dont leave out Infidels, one his better latter albums. jonp ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: 6 Oct 2005 07:58:23 -0700 Chunk forwarded: > FOREMAN OF DELAY GRAND JURY MADE MIND UP BEFORE TESTIMONY You do realize that this headline is misleading, don't you? Gotta love right-wing talk radio. Or not. Hey keep throwing the mud, Chunk - it's entertaining. Ray > THE FOREMAN OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY GRAND JURY THAT INDICTED CONGRESSMAN > TOM DELAY SAYS HE FELT THERE WAS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY SURROUNDING DELAY, THE PAC > TEXANS FOR A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BUSINESS LONG > BEFORE HE WAS TAPPED TO SERVE ON THE GRAND JURY. WILLIAM GIBSON TOLD > THE NEWSRADIO 590 KLBJ MORNING SHOW HE HIMSELF HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADS > CONCERNING THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE RACES IN 2002. > > http://www.590klbj.com/news.php?newsid=5774 > > Here's a transcript of the interview, Gibson is the Grand Jury > Foreman: > > GIBSON: I just looked at that before I was ever on the Grand > Jury. They were telling people how to vote, this is before I ever got on the > Grand Jury. Being a citizen of this town, I looked at those things and felt > that, "Hey those are telling people how to vote." > > CAESAR: Now, which ads are these, Mr. Gibson? > > GIBSON: These are the ones in the paper from the TAB that were > put in your local paper. > > CAESAR: All right. > > > GIBSON: Telling people how to vote, (unintelligible), but the > so-called freedom of speech, they were putting something in the paper for > people to look at and let them make their decision. > > CAESAR: Okay. > > GIBSON: But looking at those ads, people with average > intelligence could tell what they were there for. > > CAESAR: All right. Texas Association of Business ads. > > > GIBSON: And all this came out way before I was ever on the grand > jury, these mailers were in your paper, in the Austin papers, everybody > else's paper. They were flooding the market around here. That those were way > before I ever went on the grand jury, my decision was based upon those, not > based upon what might have happened in the grand jury room. > > CAESAR: Oh, okay. So your mind was made up after you learned > about the ads. > > GIBSON: Right, those ads way back, telling people how, their so > called freedom of speech deal. I looked at it as they're just telling > people, "Go vote for that person, go vote for that person." > > CAESAR: So they didn't have the persuade you in the grand jury > with any evidence, you already - > > GIBSON: That was already public knowledge there. That way back > (unintelligible) that is what I based my information on. They stated their > positions, and I could state my position by saying, "Hey, I don't like > that." > > > > > > > begin 666 0.gif > K1TE&.#=A`0`!`/ ``/_______R'Y! $`````+ `````!``$`0 ("1 $`.P`` > ` > end ------------------------------ From: JonP Subject: Re: Anyone go to the Harvest Festival? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:58:51 -0700 I went to harvest festival at my kids school the other day for their huuuuge organic garden.. JonP ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:03:50 -0700 wyeknot wrote: > Nick's Picks wrote: > > 10-15 has no space. just the "bob and jerry jam" > > which...imo, is boaring. > > Oink, oink. > > OK, just a little ribbing. Now back to business - chop, chop. http://www.unexplained-bacon.com/ Mark ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:04:16 -0400 Tim Ujin wrote: > Here is how I see it: > > SNIP > > 9/21/72 : best show ever; best Dark Star ever. No shit. Very strong > He's Gone, Truckin' Cumberland Blues, GDRFB and a bunch of others. > > SNIP > The 9/21 Dark Star was used at the Jerry Memorial at Golden Gate Park in '95 according to my notes. So someone must agree with you. db ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Fisher" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:06:20 GMT K now I am confused "mr rapidan" wrote in message news:1128609693.673043.54750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It's working just fine for me. > ------------------------------ From: "Todd" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:07:56 -0700 what are you using to access, mr rapidan? ------------------------------ From: "mr rapidan" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:10:34 -0700 > what are you using to access, mr rapidan? Just using my browser (IE6). And I didn't just check to see if I could navigate around, I actually right clicked and verified I could download shns and mp3s. I suppose that I didn't test what your problem is, right? Maybe you can't stream? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: archive.org? From: kirk@mcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:15:45 +0200 Jamie Fisher wrote: > K now I am confused No, it's probably because of this: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5889592.html This happened to me last year, when Cogent got pissed off at my ISP (France's leading ISP with some 6 million users). It lasted several weeks... Kirk ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:16:06 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > wyeknot wrote: > >>Nick's Picks wrote: >> >>>10-15 has no space. just the "bob and jerry jam" >>>which...imo, is boaring. >> >>Oink, oink. >> >>OK, just a little ribbing. Now back to business - chop, chop. > > http://www.unexplained-bacon.com/ You swine! Matt ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: 9/21/72 B&P offer! Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:18:04 -0400 Thus spake DFspamoffskiBayne@aol.com... > Tim Ujin wrote: > > Here is how I see it: > > > > SNIP > > > > 9/21/72 : best show ever; best Dark Star ever. No shit. Very strong > > He's Gone, Truckin' Cumberland Blues, GDRFB and a bunch of others. > > > > SNIP > > > > The 9/21 Dark Star was used at the Jerry Memorial at Golden Gate Park in > '95 according to my notes. So someone must agree with you. 9/21/72 may very well have not even been the best show (or Dark Star) that week. But we'll never know; scientists have yet to develop a way of measuring how On Fire the band was the last quarter of 1972. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Fisher" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:17:57 GMT I cannot even get to the site....operation time out mess "mr rapidan" wrote in message news:1128611434.364202.161230@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > what are you using to access, mr rapidan? > > Just using my browser (IE6). And I didn't just check to see if I could > navigate around, I actually right clicked and verified I could download > shns and mp3s. > > I suppose that I didn't test what your problem is, right? > > Maybe you can't stream? > ------------------------------ From: "LP" Subject: 21 years ago - 10/6/84 Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:18:24 -0700 One of my favorite Scarlet B.-> Fire on the Mt. of all time. Richmond VA - a typical coliseum with a special affinity for Phil's bass bombs. The show had typical '84 character - some difficult vocals for Garcia, but also some FIERY interludes by the band as a whole. This Scarlet has one of the most RIPPIN' guitar solos Jerry ever gave to this song. The drummers were playing double-time steam-train chugging rythym throughout the entire song. And the Fire was lond and luxurious with plenty of Mutron from JG. It's a good one, even a '70s zealot might think it doesn't suck. LP ------------------------------ From: "Todd" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:23:02 -0700 Like Jamie said, I can't even get into Archive.org... ------------------------------ From: Jazare@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Re: New Riders Of The Purple Sage This Weekend! Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:19:53 -0400 New Riders Of The Purple Sage this weekend! bpenchansky@hvc.rr.com (BURT) wrote: =A0=A0=A0=A0David Nelson and Buddy Cage tonight at Mexicali Blues in Teaneck NJ,and tomorrow at the Joyous Lake in Woodstock NY doing the New Riders Of The Purple Sage legendary songs.................. you WON'T be disappointed! bbb wrote: Good to know. Thanks .. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: "mr rapidan" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:25:23 -0700 Todd wrote: > Like Jamie said, I can't even get into Archive.org... Weird. No problem for me. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:36:37 -0400 wyeknot wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > wyeknot wrote: > > > Nick's Picks wrote: > > > > 10-15 has no space. just the "bob and jerry jam" > > > > which...imo, is boaring. > > > > > > Oink, oink. > > > > > > OK, just a little ribbing. Now back to business - chop, chop. > > > > http://www.unexplained-bacon.com/ > > You swine! Stop hogging all the bandwidth. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Bushie is a piece of shit... Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:32:11 -0700 "Ray" wrote in message news:1128536426.682802.220430@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> "Ray" wrote: >> > I'm not asking for "proof" - I'm disagreeing with your asserting that >> > "The fact is nobody has any idea about this woman". Bush and Cheney >> > sure do, and though we don't know how much it's reasonable to assume >> > that they might know a fair amount more than they are letting on. >> >> Bush doesn't know how to tie his own shoes. > > Bush became president - so he's at least that smart. And it may be > that Bush is as good at reading people as some purport, hard to say. > Which is to say, Bush may have a geniunely clear handle on Meirs' > judicial philosophy, dunno. > > That said, I'm not convinced that Bush, for all his code-worded > rhetoric that is intended to convey to the hard right that he is one, > is in fact a strict constructionist who wants strict constructionists > to control SCOTUS. It may be that, when Bush (and/or his advisors) > looked into the abyss of what appointing another strict constructionist > to the Court would really do, and couldn't go through with it, dunno. > > Or, it may be that Meirs is in fact strict constructionist and Bush > knows it, and that's what he wants on the Court. And/or, it may be > that Meirs is indeed an "extreme" anti-choicer who will overturn Roe v > Wade and that's what he wants on the court. That Christian Right > leader James Dobson is supporting her, because of "what I know I am not > at liberty to talk about," is a possible indication of either or both > of these things. > > Or, it may be that Bush appointed her simply because she is a Bush > crony and a woman, dunno - there are simply too many unknowns here to > know with any certainty. > >> This woman is a personal >> attendant to Bush, Cheney doesn't know jack squat about her. > > Your powers of being able to divine things with such certainty based on > so little information is very, um, impressive. > >> The hearings will tell the tale. Its all there is. That's what senators >> will base their decisions on. > > I agree that it's all there is, and (barring major suprises from > elsewhere) that's what senators will base their decisions on. They'll > have no choice - that's where most of the information that they'll get > about her will come from. But the hearings won't tell the whole story > - far from it. > > Ray > > _______________________ > > "To what purpose then require the co-operation of the Senate? I answer, > that the necessity of their concurrence would have a powerful, though, > in general, a silent operation. It would be an excellent check upon a > spirit of favoritism in the President, and would tend greatly to > prevent the appointment of unfit characters from State prejudice, from > family connection, from personal attachment, or from a view to > popularity... He would be both ashamed and afraid to bring forward, for > the most distinguished or lucrative stations, candidates who had no > other merit than that of coming from the same State to which he > particularly belonged, or of being in some way or other personally > allied to him, or of possessing the necessary insignificance and > pliancy to render them the obsequious instruments of his pleasure." > > - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 76 Gotta love old Alex............ Always trying to do the right thing, except when he got carried away. Too bad he named Duer his chief deputy, a man with no qualifications other than being his good buddy. Hamilton could have avoided tremendous scandal if he went with someone with financial experience, but he wanted his pal on his right hand....... the first documented case of insider trading was the result. I so wish we were watching him and Adams and Jefferson and Madison trying to publicly destroy each other instead of the current crop of political midgets trying to destroy each other. The Founders were far more vicious and personal in their attacks and campaigns against each others' very existence than the comparatively tame and polite politics of today, but somehow the hateful back and forth was on a far higher level than we see from our current crop of buffoons like Bush and Kerry, as it included actual original thinking......... EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Todd" Subject: Re: archive.org? Date: 6 Oct 2005 08:33:21 -0700 O well. Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll have to listen to- ulp!- Mp3's instead.... ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: *heh* Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:42:37 -0400 garciyalater@hotmail.com wrote: > I saw the dead only in what is described as their dark days, > 92-->95......but I will put that 10/1/94 show up against any > other from any era..... You can't be serious. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:35:48 -0700 "Chunk" wrote in message news:r581f.369$Ue7.180@fe03.lga... > > "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message > news:bAT0f.1138$aB1.6740@eagle.america.net... >> >> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message >> news:fGR0f.2162$AY4.1427@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... >>> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>>> Its the American way, this is why we're fighting in Iraq, so >>>> scum >>>> like Delay can be brought to justice. ... >> >>> We're fighting in Iraq so we can have access to cheap oil, >>> it has nothing to do with truth, justice or the American >>> way. >> >> Hello, sarcasm........... >> >> Chunk is Mr. Iraq War. He needs to know what he's fighting for: The >> American jury system. >> >> EGBH >> >> > > FOREMAN OF DELAY GRAND JURY MADE MIND UP BEFORE TESTIMONY > > THE FOREMAN OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY GRAND JURY THAT INDICTED CONGRESSMAN > TOM DELAY SAYS HE FELT THERE WAS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY SURROUNDING DELAY, THE > PAC TEXANS FOR A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BUSINESS > LONG > BEFORE HE WAS TAPPED TO SERVE ON THE GRAND JURY. WILLIAM GIBSON TOLD > THE NEWSRADIO 590 KLBJ MORNING SHOW HE HIMSELF HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADS > CONCERNING THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE RACES IN 2002. > > http://www.590klbj.com/news.php?newsid=5774 > > Here's a transcript of the interview, Gibson is the Grand Jury > Foreman: > > GIBSON: I just looked at that before I was ever on the Grand > Jury. They were telling people how to vote, this is before I ever got on > the Grand Jury. Being a citizen of this town, I looked at those things and > felt that, "Hey those are telling people how to vote." > > CAESAR: Now, which ads are these, Mr. Gibson? > > GIBSON: These are the ones in the paper from the TAB that were > put in your local paper. > > CAESAR: All right. > > > GIBSON: Telling people how to vote, (unintelligible), but the > so-called freedom of speech, they were putting something in the paper for > people to look at and let them make their decision. > > CAESAR: Okay. > > GIBSON: But looking at those ads, people with average > intelligence could tell what they were there for. > > CAESAR: All right. Texas Association of Business ads. > > > GIBSON: And all this came out way before I was ever on the > grand jury, these mailers were in your paper, in the Austin papers, > everybody else's paper. They were flooding the market around here. That > those were way before I ever went on the grand jury, my decision was based > upon those, not based upon what might have happened in the grand jury > room. > > CAESAR: Oh, okay. So your mind was made up after you learned > about the ads. > > GIBSON: Right, those ads way back, telling people how, their so > called freedom of speech deal. I looked at it as they're just telling > people, "Go vote for that person, go vote for that person." > > CAESAR: So they didn't have the persuade you in the grand jury > with any evidence, you already - > > GIBSON: That was already public knowledge there. That way back > (unintelligible) that is what I based my information on. They stated their > positions, and I could state my position by saying, "Hey, I don't like > that." Gotta love our system, flaws and all.............. another 12 people will get their chance, don't worry. This is what you're fighting for. Enjoy. 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