From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #496 Dead-Flames Digest #496, Volume #48 Wed, 5 Oct 05 08:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: India's "ghost man" loves his ganja (NDC) (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("KaraMounoPanoMalakOpoulos") Re: I tried to grow a beard (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: 6-12-92 re-appreciation post ("Nick's Picks") Re: Favorite Space ("Nick's Picks") Re: Steve Kimock on the road again! ("Nick's Picks") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Chunk") one ("tim_ratdog") Re: 6-12-92 re-appreciation post (DB) Bob Weir joins MerleFest in 2006 (ba ba booie) Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. (ba ba booie) Re: Blues for Nipsey ("Schmoe") Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Bob Weir joins MerleFest in 2006 ("Rogues Island's finest") Anyone go to the Harvest Festival? (ba ba booie) Re: Favorite Space (band beyond description) Re: 6-12-92 re-appreciation post (band beyond description) People love their ganja. (ba ba booie) Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Ray") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: time running out for the WEASELS Date: 5 Oct 2005 04:48:39 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > Not altogether sure you should be be rejoicing the notion... I think it is great. Legal systems tend to be greatly influenced by testimony. Many innocent people are in jail. If a jury hears several people say a person did something they may be less inclined to believe it if the jury was also told that the probability of those people having told the truth was less than 1%. I would make it mandatory for murder trials to have all testimony given while sitting in an MRI - for starters. There is a great deal of skepticism of the truthfulness of many people testifying because they have a great deal to gain if they are believed. The lying WEASELS would be unmasked. Less Deadheads would be in jail too. ( Lookee Dead Reference ! ) .. ------------------------------ From: "JupiterZ" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 5 Oct 2005 04:59:16 -0700 STFU you lying checkenshit terkk,only a coward homo like you will fail to show up.Looking at your stupid looking picture all I see is a little yellow belly homo terkk with a tuxedo, now STFU KaraMounoPanoMalakOpoulos wrote: > *LOL* > > It was the SPOD Tsolakis that insisted that I owned that kebab shop, > not me > > What a jerk ! > > I have always claimed to be who I AM > > Seanie Rutledge ! > > *LMFAOAY* > > PWNT ! ------------------------------ From: kwokx2@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 5 Oct 2005 05:07:59 -0700 >Just listened to 2/23/93 Space -> Other One a few weeks ago. Ornette >Coleman comes in and plays more notes in half a minute than the >guitarists had in the previous seven. Then the rest of the band comes >in and we get to hear Phil and Billy indulging their jazzman fantasies. >Then they try to steer Ornette into The Other One, which takes a long >time because he goes off on every imaginable tangent. Interesting. >Pat Buzby >Chicago, IL That is a good one. WBAI played that show some years back one night while I was back in NYC. The whole drums> Other One transition is hypnotic and I thought the Corrina> Lazy River Road> PITB from earlier in the set was kinda relaxing to hear too. I still think the 9.29.89 space is beyond description and the 10.12.83, 4.03.82 space jams are spooky/pagan-like. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Is it just I? Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:06:04 -0400 alex sandoval wrote: > .......or is Kimoch not Garcia? Keep taking the purple acid. It's doing wonders for your mind. ------------------------------ From: eddie@ccil.org Subject: Re: greatest song ever Date: 5 Oct 2005 06:08:27 -0700 Greatest song ever: "I Fought the Law" ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:12:46 +0900 On 2005-10-05 20:19:24 +0900, "Nick's Picks" said: > 9-2-82 US fest. > sounds like they are playing backwards. do you mean 9/5/82? http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15188 -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: Wookiee Content! You Write The Caption Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:22:48 -0400 Thus spake Kelly Humphries ... > If you can explain why Chewbacca tossed out the first pitch at a Red > Sox game last week, your 15 minutes of fame await: > > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/sports2day/243226_capcontest04.html > That's no Wookiee, it's Johnny Damon. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "tim_ratdog" Subject: Re: New Torrent on e-tree ... 12/4/73 set one Date: 5 Oct 2005 06:27:34 -0700 Richard Morris wrote: > Listening to it now ... very nice ... > > R. > > **************************************** > Grateful Dead - December 4, 1973 > Cincinnati Gardens - Cincinnati, OH > **SET ONE ONLY** > > Recording Info: > SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat > > Transfer Info: > Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> > FLAC > (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) > > Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller > charliemiller87@earthlink.net > August 23, 2005 > > Set 1: > d1t01 - Johnny B. Goode > d1t02 - Sugaree > d1t03 - Me And My Uncle > d1t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> > d1t05 - I Know You Rider > d1t06 - El Paso > d1t07 - Deal > d1t08 - Big River > d1t09 - Tennessee Jed > d1t10 - Truckin' -> > d1t11 - Stella Blue > d1t12 - Around And Around > Note that this is set-1 previous seed (which is what is on archive only had): from end of show: 1. //Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad > 5:46 2. Sunshine Daydream 3:48 3. Encore: Casey Jones 7:31 -tim ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: 6-12-92 re-appreciation post Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:30:41 -0400 Nick's Picks wrote: > DB wrote: > > >>I don't know...... I just played part of the first set and the >>Scarlet>Fire through drums on some relatively cheap Sennheiser >>headphones and a Sony discman on the train this morning. The recording >>sounded like it had potential on a good system, but it did not jump our >>at me as being a "reference" audience recording. > > > > there is far too much dynmaics in this recording to be really heard on > anything less than a good system. > its "eh" in my car. but from my couch...im 20th row DFC. > > > > > > There was a lot of > >>Phil and it was not distorted, so I certainly liked that. The vocals and >>other instruments were clear as well. There was a bit of chatter, but I >>guess that is to be expected for an FOB with cardiods (aren't they?) and >>a very drunken update NY crowd. >> >>So I'll continue to give you the benefit of the doubt until I can play >>it a few times through my home system -- McIntosh amp & preamp, ADCOM CD >>player and Joseph Audio RM 25's. That will be the "acid" test, so to speak. >> >>DB > > > and you'll see! > the first choras in FOTM is fantastic. PHIL !! > just go straight to that track, turn it up and close your eyes. > Nick I see what you are saying about the ambiance of the recording. I cranked up the scarlet>fire last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. The main problem with the recording, however, is that it was made at the Knick. I saw about at least ten Dead shows there and never remember thinking the sound was all that great and this recording clearly highlights the flaws of the place. I think the bass is a bit muddy around the edges and the vocals are way too far back in the mix for my tastes. The overall sound is less than intimate and inviting. In fact, it sounds like the Dead were playing in a big, sterile hockey arena. Then there are the drunks relentlessly screaming, but I digress. Overall this is an excellent recording in a so-so venue. It is a great show for the period and the Fire in particular is on fire. However, to call it a "reference" recording in your Archive review may have been a bit over the top. Maybe, I'm just not a B&K guy, but there are plenty of other Dead audience recordings that I would put way ahead of this one. Thanks for bringing this show back to my attention. It's been a while. DB ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Bob Weir joins MerleFest in 2006 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:40:14 -0400 Bob Weir joins Merlefest in 2006 WILKESBORO, N.C. - Bob Weir, a guitar player and singer for the Grateful Dead, will make his first appearance at MerleFest 2006, the annual celebration of Americana music begun by Doc Watson. Weir will perform with a veteran Merlefest band, The Waybacks. Among the other headliners are Emmylou Harris, Gillian Welch, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, and Nickel Creek. Watson and his grandson, Richard Watson, also are scheduled to perform. The 19th annual festival will be held April 27-30 on the campus of Wilkes Community College. It raises money for the Eddy Merle Watson Garden for the Senses, named for Watson's son and fellow musician, who was killed in a 1985 tractor accident. bbb wrote: Wooo hoooo, Bob Weir. Looks like a good show. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:48:24 -0400 Police make cocaine, methamphetamine and hashish arrests at Rolling Stones concert Police made dozens of arrests at Saturday's Rolling Stones concert in Hershey. Most of the arrests were for drug-related offenses: Twenty-four were charged with marijuana possession. Three were charged with cocaine possession. Two were charged with methamphetamine possession. Two were charged with hashish possession. bbb wrote: Where is all the hash? I have not seen/smoked that in years. Wow, drugs at concerts, who would have thought? .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Blues for Nipsey Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:56:13 -0400 Dave Kelly wrote: > > "Hello Larry" was on the Fall 1980 prime time schedule. I liked that show. Recall being disappointed it was cancelled so quickly. That and Buffalo Bill. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Police make dozens of arrests @ Rolling Stones concert. Date: 5 Oct 2005 07:01:18 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > Most of the arrests were for drug-related offenses: Twenty-four were > charged with marijuana possession. Three were charged with cocaine > possession. Two were charged with methamphetamine possession. Two were > charged with hashish possession. And that was just from Keef's dressing room! Mark ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Bob Weir joins MerleFest in 2006 Date: 5 Oct 2005 07:03:06 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > Bob Weir joins Merlefest in 2006 Right on top of things as usual, Booie. Mark ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Anyone go to the Harvest Festival? Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:58:10 -0400 Thousands gathered at the University of Wisconsin's Library Mall to attend the 35th Annual Great Midwest Marijuana Harvest Festival this past weekend. The event, organized by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), typically takes place beneath a well-known cloud of marijuana smoke. Though police are present during the annual event, enforcement of drug laws is not common. "This is the only weekend where you can smoke weed in public and not be arrested," Jon Tischner, event attendee, said. "Cops are there, and they know people are smoking, but they don't really do anything about it." Another event attendee, who wished to remain anonymous for fear he might be arrested if his name was printed, said police were on the perimeter of the event, but did not mingle with the crowd. "The cops were standing up on a hill just watching and trying to move people along," the attendee said. "They had to know what was going on, but as long as they didn't actually see you smoking the weed, they didn't do anything about it. You just have to be good at covering up." Ald. Austin King, District 8, said the Madison Police Department has never had a problem with the event. Madison police were unavailable for comment as of press time. "My understanding is that there were no arrests this year," King said. "We've rarely seen any police action taken at the event over the years." According to King, the event itself does not condone the use of marijuana in a public forum, although he said he would not be surprised if the drug was used. King also said it is probably better police do not get involved if people are smoking marijuana at the event. "It's a good policy to not interfere with the event," King said. "The crowd is peaceful and happy, so it's better to let them go on their way." The Harvest Festival does advocate the regulated legalization of cannabis and the Madison chapter of NORML's mission statement reads as follows: "To uphold Madison's long-standing community standard that the use of cannabis is not a criminal matter. To show compassion towards our seniors, disabled and seriously ill; to support Wisconsin's farmers; and to ensure the personal freedom of responsible adults." Advocates at the festival argued for the legalization of marijuana so the government can implement taxation and regulation. A second attendee, who also wished to remain anonymous for fear of arrest, said taxing cannabis would serve to mend government debt. "Taxing ganja would bring in $6 billion no problem [sic]," the festival attendee said. "Legalizing marijuana would make things so much easier for everyone. Get down with the brown, keep the money in town. If we grow that [stuff], we'd be able to keep the money here." Some state legislators are currently seeking to pass a bill that would permit the medicinal use of marijuana with a prescription. However, past attempts at such a bill have failed, and this attempt is still in its initial steps. bbb wrote: ***"It's a good policy to not interfere with the event," King said. "The crowd is peaceful and happy, so it's better to let them go on their way."*** Sounds like a Grateful Dead concert. Before 1990 that is ; ) Anyone go to the Harvest Festival this year or any year in the past? .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:07:53 +0900 On 2005-10-05 07:25:50 +0900, "Andrew Murawa" said: > How about 2/27/81... very spooky, doors creaking, barking dogs, women > shrieking, rusted gates swinging. now that was hot (as was 11/20/78)... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: 6-12-92 re-appreciation post Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:11:09 +0900 On 2005-10-05 22:30:41 +0900, DB said: > Nick's Picks wrote: >> DB wrote: >> >> >>> I don't know...... I just played part of the first set and the >>> Scarlet>Fire through drums on some relatively cheap Sennheiser >>> headphones and a Sony discman on the train this morning. The recording >>> sounded like it had potential on a good system, but it did not jump our >>> at me as being a "reference" audience recording. >> >> >> >> there is far too much dynmaics in this recording to be really heard on >> anything less than a good system. >> its "eh" in my car. but from my couch...im 20th row DFC. >> >> >> >> >> >> There was a lot of >> >>> Phil and it was not distorted, so I certainly liked that. The vocals and >>> other instruments were clear as well. There was a bit of chatter, but I >>> guess that is to be expected for an FOB with cardiods (aren't they?) and >>> a very drunken update NY crowd. >>> >>> So I'll continue to give you the benefit of the doubt until I can play >>> it a few times through my home system -- McIntosh amp & preamp, ADCOM CD >>> player and Joseph Audio RM 25's. That will be the "acid" test, so to speak. >>> >>> DB >> >> >> and you'll see! >> the first choras in FOTM is fantastic. PHIL !! >> just go straight to that track, turn it up and close your eyes. >> > > Nick > > I see what you are saying about the ambiance of the recording. I > cranked up the scarlet>fire last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. > > The main problem with the recording, however, is that it was made at > the Knick. I saw about at least ten Dead shows there and never > remember thinking the sound was all that great and this recording > clearly highlights the flaws of the place. I think the bass is a bit > muddy around the edges and the vocals are way too far back in the mix > for my tastes. The overall sound is less than intimate and inviting. > In fact, it sounds like the Dead were playing in a big, sterile hockey > arena. Then there are the drunks relentlessly screaming, but I digress. > > Overall this is an excellent recording in a so-so venue. It is a great > show for the period and the Fire in particular is on fire. However, to > call it a "reference" recording in your Archive review may have been a > bit over the top. Maybe, I'm just not a B&K guy, but there are plenty > of other Dead audience recordings that I would put way ahead of this > one. > > Thanks for bringing this show back to my attention. It's been a while. > > DB i kinda like 4/5/82 FOB 4th row at the Spectrum for aud ambience!!! check it if you haven't already. http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=13612 -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: People love their ganja. Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:09:28 -0400 A forested crime beat By KATHY PORTIE Denese Stokes travels for a living. She's not a travel agent or an airline pilot, Stokes is the criminal investigator for the U.S. Forest Service. Due to federal budget cuts she is the only drug agent in Southern California representing the Forest Service-a force of one. Stokes has been an agent for 14 years, working 12 hours a day, five days a week to keep the forest safe. But while she is a rare breed of forest ranger in these parts, she is far from being a lone ranger in the fight against Mexican drug cartels. Stokes works extensively with the sheriffs' departments in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. "It is an unbelievable challenge," Stokes said when contacted by phone during one of her traveling work days. "We just can't keep up with it." For years the problem in the San Bernardino National Forest was methamphetamine. Large commercial labs set up shop in the deep recesses of the wilderness. But the past four years has seen a steady decline in illegal commercial operations on the national forest. Now there is a new cash cow in the mountains. Marijuana. The front country of the San Bernardino National Forest, that area south of Big Bear and north of Mentone and Highland, is rife with Mexican nationals growing the illicit crop. And about 90 percent of what's being grown in the region is tied to two Mexican cartels. "These cartels are well funded and well organized," Stokes said. "It is far harder now than ever before." The homegrown weed stays in the United States but the profits head south of the border. Marijuana-growing is big business for Mexico. "It's very widespread, mostly in the wilderness areas way off Highway 38 or 330," Stokes said. "We do aerial recon and surveillance as well as traveling in vehicles. But we find most of it by flying over the areas." What makes the job a challenge are the growers who are willing to risk their lives to protect their crops. For that reason alone, Stokes advises citizens to keep a look out for and to stay away from any possible sites. If a hiker or backpacker accidentally stumbles across a marijuana field, get out quietly, Stokes said. "We have had several biologist types who have walked into a field," Stokes said. The threat is usually most severe in August and September-harvest time for marijuana. But after a long winter, growers are about two months behind schedule this year. Harvest time is October. "The threat level is high now," Stokes said. "These workers are willing to protect their plants. They get paid big money by the cartels." But growers are not who law enforcement is targeting. "We'd rather go after the upper levels and take down the whole organization," Stokes said. Stokes and the rest of the team policing the forest have been hard at work recently. In the past week alone they took down a marijuana field and made two arrests. "We work together as an unofficial task force," Stokes said. "We have help from SWAT and narcotics divisions. We couldn't do it without them." Five Forest Service patrol officers also work with Stokes in the field. From there Stokes is the lead agent throughout the arrest process all the way to the jury trial. That way the case remains under federal jurisdiction. But her job doesn't stop there. Once the field is identified, it's also the Forest Service's job to clean the drug camp. It usually takes a full day's work. "We have to pull the plants out by the root so there is proof the plants aren't cuttings," Stokes said. "If there is a case going to court, we pull out the plants and save them as evidence until the case is judicated." If no arrests have been made or if it is an abandoned or vacant site that rangers discover, the plants are removed and destroyed at a facility in Long Beach. During the meth lab days, a Hazmat team would be in charge of cleanup. "Sometimes we may have to get a team out, but most of the time we take care of it ourselves now," Stokes said. Just another day's work in the life of the San Bernardino National Forest's lone ranger. bbb wrote; People love their ganja. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: 5 Oct 2005 07:23:57 -0700 Chunk wrote: > > True to form you've thrown some mud here, but you have yet to show how, > > exactly, is it a "sham attack". So what else is new. > > That's my OPINION, asswipe'. Your OPINION is that "this thing stinks on ice" and that it's a "sham attack", based on "According to Mr. Delay, Texas Democrats were doing the same thing"?!? Hey, whatever works for ya. Oh by the way, wanna buy the Brooklyn Bridge? Ray ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .