From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #493 Dead-Flames Digest #493, Volume #48 Tue, 4 Oct 05 19:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("Harry Bournazian") Re: gdead ("Richard Morris") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) (leftie) Re: Mirrormask-Neil Gaiman film ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("Paul Tivnan") Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco (DG) Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) (Walter Karmazyn) Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Favorite Space ("Steve Terry") Re: Good show last night, anyone watch? Seriously, any comments appreciated. ("Coreyboy18") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Chunk") Re: Favorite Space ("walstib77") Re: Favorite Space ("walstib77") Re: India's "ghost man" loves his ganja (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Favorite Space ("Carlisle") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("Steve Terry") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Halloween Music (Spider Dawg) Re: 7-13-84 question ("Rupert") Re: I tried to grow a beard (Tom Beck) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harry Bournazian" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:19:25 -0400 I have the release that has Jet Airliner on it. Great cd. I didn't know it until after, but Jerry plays on a couple of songs. First 4 tracks are killer. "Ray" wrote in message news:1128465778.818542.107020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ba ba booie wrote: > > San Francisco bluesman who mastered Tuvan throat singing passes on. > > > > > > > > Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO - Paul Pena, a San Francisco blues guitarist who wrote one > > of the biggest hits for the Steve Miller Band, has died. He was 55. > > > > Pena is perhaps best known for writing "Jet Airliner," a Top 10 hit in > > 1977. He's lived off the royalties from that song. > > > > Pena also is familiar to audiences for the 1999 Academy Award-nominated > > documentary "Genghis Blues," which tells the story of how he took up > > Tuvan throat singing. > > > > Pena died Saturday from complications of diabetes and pancreatitis. > > > > Pena, almost completely blind since birth and plagued by illnesses most > > of his life, was born in Hyannis, Mass. He proved to be a natural > > musician, singing and teaching himself several instruments. > > > > In the late 1960s, he was in a band that opened for big-time acts > > including the Grateful Dead and Frank Zappa. Blues artists ranging from > > T-Bone Walker to B.B. King to Bonnie Raitt recognized his talents, > > hiring him to play guitar in their bands. > > > > "He's like having my very own Jimi Hendrix," Raitt once said. "There's > > simply nothing he can't play well." > > > > In 1971, Pena moved to San Francisco, where he played many gigs, > > frequently opening for Jerry Garcia's and Merle Saunders' bands. > > > > Pena became interested in throat singing when he heard a Tuvan broadcast > > on his shortwave radio in 1984. Later he found a Tuvan record, playing > > it countless times until he learned how to throat sing, which involves > > producing several distinct vocal-cord sounds simultaneously. In 1993, he > > demonstrated his technique to Kongar-ol Ondar, one of the foremost > > throat singers in the world. Ondar was mightily impressed with Pena, > > nicknaming him "Earthquake" and inviting him to come to Tuva to > > participate in the annual competition. > > > > His 1995 journey to Tuva, where he won awards in the contest and charmed > > locals who were delighted with this foreigner who mastered their art > > form, is recounted in "Genghis Blues." > > > > Pena is survived by his parents, Jack and Virginia Pena of Harwich, > > Mass., and two brothers, Jim of Lynnfield, Mass., and Peter of > > Bridgewater, Mass. > > > > No date has been announced for a planned public memorial concert. > > --- > > On the Net: http://www.paulpena.com. > > This is sad news - RIP Paul. > > If you haven't seen "Genghis Blues" I recommend checking it out - an > amazing and moving documentary. > > This Amazon review sums it up: > ___________________________________________ > > The ancient art of Tuvan throat singing may not sound like the most > scintillating subject for a movie, but for those wishing to immerse > themselves in a different culture or meet remarkable people, this > inspiring and exhilarating Oscar-nominated documentary will be pure > pleasure. This is a story no Hollywood screenwriter could have > imagined. Paul Pena is a blind San Francisco blues singer who has > played with the likes of John Lee Hooker and Jerry Garcia (he also > penned "Jet Airliner," which Steve Miller covered). One night while > listening to his shortwave radio, he picked up a Radio Moscow broadcast > and heard the mesmerizing, gutteral sound of throat singing, which is > peculiar to Tuva's region of upper Mongolian. Enthralled, he became a > master of this obscure art form. Enter Friends of Tuva, a curious group > that included Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, who > likewise had become fascinated with Tuva. In 1993 they sponsored a San > Francisco appearance by Tuvan singers. Pena was in the audience and met > with the singers afterward. Pena so impressed the Tuvans that he was > encouraged to come to Tuva and participate in its annual festival > competition. Genghis Blues chronicles this incredible journey. Pena's > performance is as joyous and triumphant as the Buena Vista Social > Club's Carnegie Hall concert, but this is more than just a one-note > concert film. It also movingly charts Pena's friendship with revered > Tuvan singer Kongar-ol Ondar (whose stature is described as "John F. > Kennedy, Elvis Presley, and Michael Jordan rolled into one"). > Documentarians Roko and Adrian Belic modestly profess they were ill > equipped to make this documentary. They may have a point, but would you > pass up such an opportunity? > ___________________________________________ > > > > bbb wrote: > > I don't think I ever heard him. > > > > ***Later he found a Tuvan record, playing it countless times until he > > learned how to throat sing, which involves producing several distinct > > vocal-cord sounds simultaneously.*** > > > > Can someone explain this furthur to me? > > Tuvan throat singing is one of those sounds, like the Tibetan singing > of Gyuto Monks (which it is parially related to), that can't be > described in words, except to say that the sound is often guttural, > with the singer singing both the harmonics and the melody at the same > time. This one of those deals where the sound is worth a thousand > words and then some. You can check it out on amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000516VT/qid%3D1128465329/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-8959346-8796668 > > > Any good words to say about Paul Pena? > > > > Was he good on the guitar? > > Throat singing??? > > He was great both as a guitarist and as a throat singer. And from what > I know of him personally (mostly via the documentary) he seemed to be a > very cool person as well. > > > May he rest in peace. > > I don't even know him and > > he sounds like as decent person. > > Indeed. > > Ray > > > > > > > > > We are dancing on > > this earth for only so long. > > > > > > > > booie............ > > > > > > > > > > . > > . > > . > > Have you checked these sites out today? > > http://www.jambase.com > > http://www.jambands.com > > http://www.jambase.com/festivals > > . > > > > Find out where your favorite band is playing. > > Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com > ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: gdead Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:06:19 -0700 "bossgobbler" wrote in message news:5eb8e3591cb69cd9996887ddf6cc295d@localhost.talkaboutthemusic.com... > The only thing worse than wading though tour scum to see a gig is wading > though all the polical commentary in this so called Dead newsgroup. > rec.music.gdead was soooo much better 15 years ago...Shut up and talk > about the tunes...I don't remember Jerry running his mouth about politics > endlessly. Go to "I hate Bush" or "I hate Republicans" or "Liberals ARE > open minded, really". I'm sure they exist somewhere. Thank you for you political commentary. Now ... go take a nice big dose of your own advice. R. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:23:58 -0700 I guess he wasn't kiddin' when he said he was gonna move away from here.... RIP Mr. Pena. (you can find him if you want to go there...) ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Mirrormask-Neil Gaiman film Date: 4 Oct 2005 16:34:01 -0700 chartnav@gmail.com wrote: > Went to see this amazing film, Mirrormask last weekend. It was made by > the graphic artist Neil Gaiman and directed by Dave McKean.I had never > heard of Neil Gaiman but my son wanted to see it so we made the trek > into NYC. The press blurb for the film describes it as "...a visual and > psychological menagerie of dreamscape, nightmares and otherworldly > creatures." This movie is highly original in its creation of a surreal > dreamworld and visually dazzling. Excellent music and the lead > actress,15 year old Stephanie Leonidas is totally engaging. This is the > best picture I have seen in a very long time. It is in limited release > so do catch it if you get a chance.Much better to see it in a theatre > than wait for the DVD. Highly recommended. > Kenny I just watched the preview. Looks amazing. Now if I can just get my hands on some window pane!! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: "Paul Tivnan" Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:35:39 GMT hi all... the MTB Rocked...... were huge Fan Favorites in Boston....whole Northeast....many, many, gr8 memories or at least foggy recollections.... Toy Caldwell died from complications from pneumonia in early 90's.... his brother Tommy the other THUMB Pickin brother was the bass player and lead singer ....he was killed late 79 or early 80sh...rolled his Jeep over near home(Spartanburg SC) the band was never the same...but still a fun night...SMOKIN' GUITARS pax... tiv "neurodancer" wrote in message news:1128452887.653889.230230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Seth Jackson wrote: >> On 2 Oct 2005 09:12:41 -0700, "Brett" >> wrote: >> >> >I have so many great memories about Tucker and their music. >> > >> >Did anyone else here have the pleasure of seeing Marshall Tucker live >> >in concert? >> >> They opened for the Dead and NRPS at Englishtown on 9/3/77. I don't >> recall much about their set. > > > > Along with the Dead, Traffic & Steely Dan, they were about the hottest > thing going in high school. Saw them at Boston Garden, great show but > that fantastic bass solo on "24 Hours at a Time" was all distorted. Oh > well.. > Anyone know how Toy Caldwell died? > ND > ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:40:46 -0700 leftie wrote: > >DG wrote: > >> LOL... I was on the guest list all three nights... > >Anybody archive those two weeks worth of posts? I lived it... Even traded an extra for something yummy... ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: 4 Oct 2005 16:42:04 -0700 They were really big back when I was in HS. We loved 'em back then. I never did get to see 'em live back them, but I finally caught 'em a coupla years ago at Humphrey's in SD warmin' up fer Dickey Betts an' they were excellent. Some of their jams were downright progressive ta boot!!!! Rick ------------------------------ From: Walter Karmazyn Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:00:03 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > San Francisco bluesman who mastered Tuvan throat singing passes on. > > > > Any good words to say about Paul Pena? Pena and I both knew a couple that I guess we would both call friends, who used to throw these parties a few times a year, which is where I got to know him as one of the other regulars @ these events, this being sorta mid 80's-early 90's. A warm guy who could carry a good conversation. I no doubt heard him open for Garcia/Saunders at the Monk in the early 70's, he did a bit of that, and Jerry and Merle play on a track of an album he made in 73, but wasn't released till 4 or 5 years ago. May the 4 winds blow him safely home.. W Leavin' home, out on the road I've been down before Ridin' along in this big ol' jet plane I've been thinkin' about my home But my love light seems so far away And I feel like it's all been done Somebody's tryin' to make me stay You know I've got to be movin' on Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Goodbye to all my friends at home Goodbye to people I've trusted I've got to go out and make my way I might get rich you know I might get busted But my heart keeps calling me backwards As I get on the 707 Ridin' high I got tears in my eyes You know you got to go through hell Before you get to heaven Big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Touchin' down in New England town Feel the heat comin' down I've got to keep on keepin' on You know the big wheel keeps on spinnin' around And I'm goin' with some hesitation You know that I can surely see That I don't want to get caught up in any of that Funky shit goin' down in the city Big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah Big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Carry me to my home Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's there that I belong > > ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:25:04 -0400 ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: 4 Oct 2005 17:21:17 -0700 .. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:45:16 -0500 "Dylanstubs" wrote in message: > I think my hopes were too high based on the superlative review in the > Compendium I've read that review. The doses musta been especially good that night is all I'm sayin'. ------------------------------ From: "Coreyboy18" Crossposted-To: rec.music.phish Subject: Re: Good show last night, anyone watch? Seriously, any comments appreciated. Date: 4 Oct 2005 17:45:48 -0700 http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ Crazy things... -- Corey ------------------------------ From: "Chunk" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:47:37 -0400 "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message news:E2c%e.810$aB1.5465@eagle.america.net... > > "Ray" wrote in message > news:1128035229.656126.287420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >> Chunk wrote: >>> "leftie" wrote in message >>> news:dhetk1$1rtf$1@agate.berkeley.edu... >>> > Tom DeLay has finally gone from unidicted co-conspirator to indicted >>> > conspirator! Plus, he's resigned the Speaker of the House position! >>> > >>> > Woohoo! Send that motherfucker to jail where he belongs!!!! >>> > >>> > But let's get him out of congress completely first. >>> > >>> > http://action.ourfuture.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "ding dong, the witch is dead...." >>> >>> Is this the same DA Ronnie Earle that went that tried to go after Kay >>> Baily >>> Hutchinson when she ran for Senate and had his baseless case thrown out? >>> Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the forged memos? Don't get >>> your hopes up. > >> "Is this the same... Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the >> forged memos?" >> >> ?!? >> >> LOL - I think you may have outdone yourself in the ridiculous >> mud-slinging dept. this time around, Chunk. And given your lengthy >> record of ridiculous mud-slinging here on rmgd that's no small >> accomplishment. >> >> Congrats, and keep up the, um, amusing work. >> >> Ray > > Don't forget that Travis County is in Texas, the state that gave us Bush > and Delay. > > Obviously all Texas politicos from county DA's to congressmen to > presidents are all lying scum. > > Therefore Delay is obviously guilty. > > Which he is, BTW. The problem is so is every other politician in > Washington. Its illegal for corporate contributions to be spent on Texas > state races. The only reason Delay has this PAC is to funnel corporate > money to state races. Everyone knows this. Everyone in Texas DOES this. > Delay is the majority leader because he does this more and better than > anyone else. > > He should have been charged and he should be found guilty. Duh. > > EGBH The law that was broken was passed in 2003, the act he has been indicted for was in 2002. So, he charged with something that wasn't even illegal. Perhaps Mr. Earle should open a law book before he convenes a GJ and has the camera crew roll tape. Delay may be a major league asshole, but this Earle guy is on a serious witch hunt. Sometimes in Washington, its the things that are legal that are scandalous. ------------------------------ From: "walstib77" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 4 Oct 2005 17:51:12 -0700 nbndtrain@yahoo.com wrote: > I typically FF Space, but am sometims up for a good one on long drives > or working on the computer. Any favorites? I liked the train horn that came out on the Summer Tour the year of the 90's revival of Casey Jones. ------------------------------ From: "walstib77" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 4 Oct 2005 17:51:42 -0700 Oh, and the CLose Encounters space--when was that? ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: India's "ghost man" loves his ganja (NDC) Date: 4 Oct 2005 18:02:30 -0700 greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com wrote: > > Nobody on this planet should be malnourished, > > it is a failure of the systems that we have set up > > to regulate and govern. > > . You sure said a mouthful, Bruthah!! Rick ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: 4 Oct 2005 18:04:03 -0700 This is very sad. Way too young to be gone. Been thinking about Mr. Pena all day after reading the article in the morning rag. What a struggle this man's life was, and yet, what an incredible life. If any of you haen't seen Genghis Blues, you're missing an amazing story. But even without that chapter of his life, his musical career against the background of his personal struggles is amazing. Fare thee well, Paul. Larry ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 4 Oct 2005 18:06:54 -0700 4/19/82--Baltimore The Raven Space ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:08:54 -0500 wrote in message news:1128474243.242048.153390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is very sad. Way too young to be gone. Been thinking about Mr. > Pena all day after reading the article in the morning rag. What a > struggle this man's life was, and yet, what an incredible life. > If any of you haen't seen Genghis Blues, you're missing an amazing > story. But even without that chapter of his life, his musical career > against the background of his personal struggles is amazing. > Fare thee well, Paul. Haven't seen the documentary, but I will have very soon. Yes, 55 is way too soon to leave. I'm saddened and my only frame of reference is the Steve Miller Band. Too weird. ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:59:52 -0400 neurodancer wrote: > > Seth Jackson wrote: > > On 2 Oct 2005 09:12:41 -0700, "Brett" > > wrote: > > > > >I have so many great memories about Tucker and their music. > > > > > >Did anyone else here have the pleasure of seeing Marshall Tucker live > > >in concert? > > > > They opened for the Dead and NRPS at Englishtown on 9/3/77. I don't > > recall much about their set. > > Along with the Dead, Traffic & Steely Dan, they were about the hottest > thing going in high school. Saw them at Boston Garden, great show but > that fantastic bass solo on "24 Hours at a Time" was all distorted. Oh > well.. Was that in '79? IIRC, that was my first MTB show. > Anyone know how Toy Caldwell died? > ND ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends at Bimbo's, San Francisco Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:58:21 -0400 DG wrote: > > leftie wrote: > > > >DG wrote: > > > >>>Hmmm, no taping. What's up with that? I wonder if it has anything to > >>>do with Phil's son going to college? > >> > >> Phil's band sucks so he doesn't want it heard. > > > >Still so bitter that you didn't get a laminate (or even a real ticket > >stub) to the Phil & Phish shows. > >What a shame! > > LOL... I was on the guest list all three nights... Has anyone ever seen Brett Meisner and Don Goodwin in the same room together? Perhaps there's a reason... /closes one eye, scratches chin ------------------------------ From: Spider Dawg Subject: Re: Halloween Music Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:33:10 -0500 On 2005-10-04, pbuzby2002@yahoo.com wrote: > My uncle used to play the studio disc from Pink Floyd's Ummagumma. > > Pat Buzby > Chicago, IL Welcome to My Nightmare. Jim ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: 7-13-84 question Date: 4 Oct 2005 18:41:59 -0700 I used to have audience copies of this show, and it was just a fast show. The boys were on that night. ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:48:12 -0500 aborgman@redshark.goodshow.net wrote: > Spider Dawg wrote: > >>On 2005-10-02, Tom Beck wrote: >> >>>Personally, I love the heat. But I shaved my neck >>>and trimmed my beard constantly. Nothing quite like >>>the special treat of of having your facial hair freeze >>>into the zipper of your Parka, know what I mean? >> >>The sensation of nose hairs freezing is much worse than the beard >>freezing IMO. Facial hair is a useful thermometer: mustache freezes it's >>below +10F, nose hair freezes it's below +5F, nose hair freezes despite >>face mask, it's below -5F, heart stops beating it's........ > > > I couldn't agree more... my favorite is a blowing icy wind that not only > freezes facial and nose hair but also freezes together... and as someone > else living in SW Michigan, we have the perfect climate for all sorts of > facial hair uncomfortability - freezing in winter, hot and humid in summer. > I live in Minnesota, and let me assure you, your heart does not stop beating at -5F. Heck, it doesn't even come close at -20F. Where do you get your information? Tom ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .