From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #492 Dead-Flames Digest #492, Volume #48 Tue, 4 Oct 05 16:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Favorite Space ("Dylanstubs") Re: Good show last night, anyone watch? Seriously, any comments appreciated. ("Effty") Re: Bimbo's! ("Dave Kelly") Re: Steve Kimock on the road again! (DB) Re: GAYson up for adoption, flippin burger busines is fycked up ("Big Butch Floppie Bwoy") Re: Bimbo's! (JC Martin) Re: Bimbo's! ("Dave Kelly") Re: Steve Kimock on the road again! ("Schmoe") Re: Favorite Space ("Andrew Murawa") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("nugster420") Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("JupiterZ") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("Ray") Re: Bimbo's! ("Harry Bournazian") Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) ("Harry Bournazian") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: 4 Oct 2005 14:38:48 -0700 Steve Terry wrote: > "Dylanstubs" wrote in message: > > > Almost all Summer '84 shows had really > > intense Space jams. > > Yes! 6/30/84, my first show sports an awesome Space >Space Dripping > Space > meets Jerry. (Hey, Dylanstubs, why only 3 stars on the archive? You cut me > deep wit dat.) LOL! You know Steve, I *love* 1984. It's my favorite year. But for some reason, that particular show doesn't do it for me. I think the playing was better in the first set. The second set seems pretty scattered. I think my hopes were too high based on the superlative review in the Compendium, and when I finally heard the show it was something of a letdown. Sorry man. Give me Saratoga, both Merriweathers, Cedar Rapids, 7/13, and both Venturas. ------------------------------ From: "Effty" Crossposted-To: rec.music.phish Subject: Re: Good show last night, anyone watch? Seriously, any comments appreciated. Date: 4 Oct 2005 14:39:33 -0700 Detective John Kimble wrote: > The fact that George Bush lied down in a casket naked and recited his > sexual history to John Kerry gives me the big-time willies. Ew! *shudders* ...It's enough to give you nightmares! ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Bimbo's! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:46:55 GMT "leftie" wrote in message news:dhuqql$cil$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > Dave Kelly wrote: > >> a spade looking for a tip in the mens room with a fresh >> towel & fresher condoms...hopefully he gets dosed... > > You are a fucking pig, Mr. Kelly. > And I say that with all due respect. * You disappoint me, my friend. Don Sweetbac ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: Steve Kimock on the road again! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:49:02 -0400 Steve Terry wrote: > "ba ba booie" wrote in message: > > >>"I'd like to sing more, but I'm really very shy, especially as a singer, >>and I have difficulty singing without getting kind of choked up," Kimock >>says in a recent interview on jambands.com. "It's emotional. I do the >>same thing when I read poetry out loud, I start to cry and stuff. It's >>very embarrassing, but eventually I'll get it together." > > > Is this for real? Aren't there meds for this problem? > > I think earplugs would suffice. The audience shouldn't be required to take meds just to get past the Master's singing. DB ------------------------------ From: "Big Butch Floppie Bwoy" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: GAYson up for adoption, flippin burger busines is fycked up Date: 4 Oct 2005 14:51:16 -0700 You left some turd under the rim LOOK ! Clean it again GAYson, PROPERLY this time bitch ! http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crapper1ut.jpg PWNT ! ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Bimbo's! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:03:23 GMT brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake kpnnews@yahoo.com... > >>Dave Kelly wrote: >> >>>It should be fun...I'm just not that interested anymore >>>with brother Phil and his noodle squad. >>>( insert teary eyed emotocon here ) >> >>Testify! Seriously, I agree. I would definitely see >>Ratdog again (ok, laugh), but I would really think >>twice with Phil. The over-the-top noodling from my >>last experiences were a bit much. In all seriousness, >>I will see the Master... errr, Master when he comes >>around... again. > > > Too funny, Kampers komplaining about noodling... Leshies like their noodles al dente. Kampers like their noodles extra soggy. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Bimbo's! Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:09:27 GMT "brew ziggins" wrote in message news:MPG.1dacbd23d93f80ce989800@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Too funny, Kampers komplaining about noodling... * Now see, there are "Egg Scramblers" too.... the "Egg Scramblers" KNOW who the "Egg Scramblers" are...Garcia saw Master YEARS ago and was overheard to remark...."But it's HOW he's scramblin' them eggs" I expect more from you, Brewster. I REALLY do. disgusted. Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Steve Kimock on the road again! Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:25:48 -0400 "Olompali4" wrote in message news:1128460275.853754.264130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > New, new CM soundboard matrix just uploaded at LMA: > > http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=29824 Streaming this right now, very, very nice. Few short spots where the lead drops out in the mix for about 15 seconds then comes back. Really looking forward to seeing him here later this month, a few short days after the Cream show. ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: Favorite Space Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:25:50 -0700 How about 2/27/81... very spooky, doors creaking, barking dogs, women shrieking, rusted gates swinging. ------------------------------ From: "nugster420" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: 4 Oct 2005 15:35:36 -0700 This guy was absolutely amazing. If you can, go out and rent or BUY Ghengis Blues today. It is an amazing story, with highs and lows to spare, and all absolutely true (documentary). A man who fell in love with another culture, and can not even see it. ------------------------------ From: "JupiterZ" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 4 Oct 2005 15:39:30 -0700 From: Yog-Sothoth Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:36:04 -0000 Subject: Re: Five Greek Americans killed to date in Iraq Message-ID: This is how the story goes. Well I was minding my own business in scg, and in the process taking the piss out of Ruttledge as usual, he got that pissed off, and asked me to go and meet him outside a kebab shop near Wood Green. Now he was very canny about it, he told me to be there 1-2 hours after he posted expecting me not to make it (since he had no idea if I was reading the group at the moment he posted). Unfortunately for him I WAS reading, and I was in Finchley so I DID go there and lo and behold! Nobody appeared LMAO. Then he tried to convince everyone that it was ME that didn't go, but he made a huge slip. As part of his "proof" that he was there, he claimed that he owned the place, but he also said the shop didn't serve kebabs. And what did I do? I presented the menu that clearly stated they served kebabs BAHAHAHAhAhAhAhahA. I can still feel him squirming about that. After that, he asked me 3 more times to name places and I did, but of course he never showed up :D ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: 4 Oct 2005 15:42:58 -0700 ba ba booie wrote: > San Francisco bluesman who mastered Tuvan throat singing passes on. > > > > Associated Press > SAN FRANCISCO - Paul Pena, a San Francisco blues guitarist who wrote one > of the biggest hits for the Steve Miller Band, has died. He was 55. > > Pena is perhaps best known for writing "Jet Airliner," a Top 10 hit in > 1977. He's lived off the royalties from that song. > > Pena also is familiar to audiences for the 1999 Academy Award-nominated > documentary "Genghis Blues," which tells the story of how he took up > Tuvan throat singing. > > Pena died Saturday from complications of diabetes and pancreatitis. > > Pena, almost completely blind since birth and plagued by illnesses most > of his life, was born in Hyannis, Mass. He proved to be a natural > musician, singing and teaching himself several instruments. > > In the late 1960s, he was in a band that opened for big-time acts > including the Grateful Dead and Frank Zappa. Blues artists ranging from > T-Bone Walker to B.B. King to Bonnie Raitt recognized his talents, > hiring him to play guitar in their bands. > > "He's like having my very own Jimi Hendrix," Raitt once said. "There's > simply nothing he can't play well." > > In 1971, Pena moved to San Francisco, where he played many gigs, > frequently opening for Jerry Garcia's and Merle Saunders' bands. > > Pena became interested in throat singing when he heard a Tuvan broadcast > on his shortwave radio in 1984. Later he found a Tuvan record, playing > it countless times until he learned how to throat sing, which involves > producing several distinct vocal-cord sounds simultaneously. In 1993, he > demonstrated his technique to Kongar-ol Ondar, one of the foremost > throat singers in the world. Ondar was mightily impressed with Pena, > nicknaming him "Earthquake" and inviting him to come to Tuva to > participate in the annual competition. > > His 1995 journey to Tuva, where he won awards in the contest and charmed > locals who were delighted with this foreigner who mastered their art > form, is recounted in "Genghis Blues." > > Pena is survived by his parents, Jack and Virginia Pena of Harwich, > Mass., and two brothers, Jim of Lynnfield, Mass., and Peter of > Bridgewater, Mass. > > No date has been announced for a planned public memorial concert. > --- > On the Net: http://www.paulpena.com. This is sad news - RIP Paul. If you haven't seen "Genghis Blues" I recommend checking it out - an amazing and moving documentary. This Amazon review sums it up: ___________________________________________ The ancient art of Tuvan throat singing may not sound like the most scintillating subject for a movie, but for those wishing to immerse themselves in a different culture or meet remarkable people, this inspiring and exhilarating Oscar-nominated documentary will be pure pleasure. This is a story no Hollywood screenwriter could have imagined. Paul Pena is a blind San Francisco blues singer who has played with the likes of John Lee Hooker and Jerry Garcia (he also penned "Jet Airliner," which Steve Miller covered). One night while listening to his shortwave radio, he picked up a Radio Moscow broadcast and heard the mesmerizing, gutteral sound of throat singing, which is peculiar to Tuva's region of upper Mongolian. Enthralled, he became a master of this obscure art form. Enter Friends of Tuva, a curious group that included Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, who likewise had become fascinated with Tuva. In 1993 they sponsored a San Francisco appearance by Tuvan singers. Pena was in the audience and met with the singers afterward. Pena so impressed the Tuvans that he was encouraged to come to Tuva and participate in its annual festival competition. Genghis Blues chronicles this incredible journey. Pena's performance is as joyous and triumphant as the Buena Vista Social Club's Carnegie Hall concert, but this is more than just a one-note concert film. It also movingly charts Pena's friendship with revered Tuvan singer Kongar-ol Ondar (whose stature is described as "John F. Kennedy, Elvis Presley, and Michael Jordan rolled into one"). Documentarians Roko and Adrian Belic modestly profess they were ill equipped to make this documentary. They may have a point, but would you pass up such an opportunity? ___________________________________________ > bbb wrote: > I don't think I ever heard him. > > ***Later he found a Tuvan record, playing it countless times until he > learned how to throat sing, which involves producing several distinct > vocal-cord sounds simultaneously.*** > > Can someone explain this furthur to me? Tuvan throat singing is one of those sounds, like the Tibetan singing of Gyuto Monks (which it is parially related to), that can't be described in words, except to say that the sound is often guttural, with the singer singing both the harmonics and the melody at the same time. This one of those deals where the sound is worth a thousand words and then some. You can check it out on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000516VT/qid%3D1128465329/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-8959346-8796668 > Any good words to say about Paul Pena? > > Was he good on the guitar? > Throat singing??? He was great both as a guitarist and as a throat singer. And from what I know of him personally (mostly via the documentary) he seemed to be a very cool person as well. > May he rest in peace. > I don't even know him and > he sounds like as decent person. Indeed. Ray > > > We are dancing on > this earth for only so long. > > > > booie............ > > > > > . > . > . > Have you checked these sites out today? > http://www.jambase.com > http://www.jambands.com > http://www.jambase.com/festivals > . > > Find out where your favorite band is playing. > Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: "Harry Bournazian" Subject: Re: Bimbo's! Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:12:20 -0400 Dave, did you have to use the word "spade". Come on man. Huge insult to our fellow man. "Dave Kelly" wrote in message news:r4D0f.529$ht7.48@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > "brew ziggins" wrote in message > news:MPG.1dacbd23d93f80ce989800@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > > > Too funny, Kampers komplaining about noodling... > > * Now see, there are "Egg Scramblers" too.... > the "Egg Scramblers" KNOW who the "Egg Scramblers" > are...Garcia saw Master YEARS ago and was overheard > to remark...."But it's HOW he's scramblin' them eggs" > I expect more from you, Brewster. > I REALLY do. > disgusted. > > Sweetbac Productions > > ------------------------------ From: "Harry Bournazian" Subject: Re: Paul Pena (rest in peace) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:19:25 -0400 I have the release that has Jet Airliner on it. Great cd. I didn't know it until after, but Jerry plays on a couple of songs. First 4 tracks are killer. "Ray" wrote in message news:1128465778.818542.107020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ba ba booie wrote: > > San Francisco bluesman who mastered Tuvan throat singing passes on. > > > > > > > > Associated Press > > SAN FRANCISCO - Paul Pena, a San Francisco blues guitarist who wrote one > > of the biggest hits for the Steve Miller Band, has died. He was 55. > > > > Pena is perhaps best known for writing "Jet Airliner," a Top 10 hit in > > 1977. He's lived off the royalties from that song. > > > > Pena also is familiar to audiences for the 1999 Academy Award-nominated > > documentary "Genghis Blues," which tells the story of how he took up > > Tuvan throat singing. > > > > Pena died Saturday from complications of diabetes and pancreatitis. > > > > Pena, almost completely blind since birth and plagued by illnesses most > > of his life, was born in Hyannis, Mass. He proved to be a natural > > musician, singing and teaching himself several instruments. > > > > In the late 1960s, he was in a band that opened for big-time acts > > including the Grateful Dead and Frank Zappa. Blues artists ranging from > > T-Bone Walker to B.B. King to Bonnie Raitt recognized his talents, > > hiring him to play guitar in their bands. > > > > "He's like having my very own Jimi Hendrix," Raitt once said. "There's > > simply nothing he can't play well." > > > > In 1971, Pena moved to San Francisco, where he played many gigs, > > frequently opening for Jerry Garcia's and Merle Saunders' bands. > > > > Pena became interested in throat singing when he heard a Tuvan broadcast > > on his shortwave radio in 1984. Later he found a Tuvan record, playing > > it countless times until he learned how to throat sing, which involves > > producing several distinct vocal-cord sounds simultaneously. In 1993, he > > demonstrated his technique to Kongar-ol Ondar, one of the foremost > > throat singers in the world. Ondar was mightily impressed with Pena, > > nicknaming him "Earthquake" and inviting him to come to Tuva to > > participate in the annual competition. > > > > His 1995 journey to Tuva, where he won awards in the contest and charmed > > locals who were delighted with this foreigner who mastered their art > > form, is recounted in "Genghis Blues." > > > > Pena is survived by his parents, Jack and Virginia Pena of Harwich, > > Mass., and two brothers, Jim of Lynnfield, Mass., and Peter of > > Bridgewater, Mass. > > > > No date has been announced for a planned public memorial concert. > > --- > > On the Net: http://www.paulpena.com. > > This is sad news - RIP Paul. > > If you haven't seen "Genghis Blues" I recommend checking it out - an > amazing and moving documentary. > > This Amazon review sums it up: > ___________________________________________ > > The ancient art of Tuvan throat singing may not sound like the most > scintillating subject for a movie, but for those wishing to immerse > themselves in a different culture or meet remarkable people, this > inspiring and exhilarating Oscar-nominated documentary will be pure > pleasure. This is a story no Hollywood screenwriter could have > imagined. Paul Pena is a blind San Francisco blues singer who has > played with the likes of John Lee Hooker and Jerry Garcia (he also > penned "Jet Airliner," which Steve Miller covered). One night while > listening to his shortwave radio, he picked up a Radio Moscow broadcast > and heard the mesmerizing, gutteral sound of throat singing, which is > peculiar to Tuva's region of upper Mongolian. Enthralled, he became a > master of this obscure art form. Enter Friends of Tuva, a curious group > that included Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, who > likewise had become fascinated with Tuva. In 1993 they sponsored a San > Francisco appearance by Tuvan singers. Pena was in the audience and met > with the singers afterward. Pena so impressed the Tuvans that he was > encouraged to come to Tuva and participate in its annual festival > competition. Genghis Blues chronicles this incredible journey. Pena's > performance is as joyous and triumphant as the Buena Vista Social > Club's Carnegie Hall concert, but this is more than just a one-note > concert film. It also movingly charts Pena's friendship with revered > Tuvan singer Kongar-ol Ondar (whose stature is described as "John F. > Kennedy, Elvis Presley, and Michael Jordan rolled into one"). > Documentarians Roko and Adrian Belic modestly profess they were ill > equipped to make this documentary. They may have a point, but would you > pass up such an opportunity? > ___________________________________________ > > > > bbb wrote: > > I don't think I ever heard him. > > > > ***Later he found a Tuvan record, playing it countless times until he > > learned how to throat sing, which involves producing several distinct > > vocal-cord sounds simultaneously.*** > > > > Can someone explain this furthur to me? > > Tuvan throat singing is one of those sounds, like the Tibetan singing > of Gyuto Monks (which it is parially related to), that can't be > described in words, except to say that the sound is often guttural, > with the singer singing both the harmonics and the melody at the same > time. This one of those deals where the sound is worth a thousand > words and then some. You can check it out on amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000516VT/qid%3D1128465329/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-8959346-8796668 > > > Any good words to say about Paul Pena? > > > > Was he good on the guitar? > > Throat singing??? > > He was great both as a guitarist and as a throat singer. And from what > I know of him personally (mostly via the documentary) he seemed to be a > very cool person as well. > > > May he rest in peace. > > I don't even know him and > > he sounds like as decent person. > > Indeed. > > Ray > > > > > > > > > We are dancing on > > this earth for only so long. > > > > > > > > booie............ > > > > > > > > > > . > > . > > . > > Have you checked these sites out today? > > http://www.jambase.com > > http://www.jambands.com > > http://www.jambase.com/festivals > > . > > > > Find out where your favorite band is playing. > > Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com > ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .