From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #484 Dead-Flames Digest #484, Volume #48 Mon, 3 Oct 05 23:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: AFC at the 1/4 pole... ("band beyond description") Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? ("Ray") Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("RomanII") Re: I tried to grow a beard ("ck") Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("Ray") Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? ("Corky") Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? ("Ray") Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("choro-nik") an example of really good editing (NDC) (the.stugots@gmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: AFC at the 1/4 pole... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 13:25:42 +0900 "Neil X." wrote in message news:1128398994.838223.309340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Steve wrote: > > > > See YOU at Soldier Field in December, laddie! Where men are men! > > > You ain't whistlin' Dixie about that!! I saw the Bears play the > hapless Indy Colts on the Lakefront on Dec. 8, 1985. (BTW, it was a > 17-10 victory, one of 18 Bears wins that season.) It was absolutely > frigid--single digits. And we arrived in a pick-up truck. Three of us > had to sit in back while we motored up Lake Shore Drive to/from Hyde > Park. I tell ya, there ain't enough bourbon in the world to keep ya > warm through something like that.....my fingertips go numb just > thinking about it. > > Peace, > Neil X. > See, Neil, "I don't come lookin' for trouble; I just come to do the Super Bowl Shuffle."### Actually, I've got some similar Chicago memories about those December Soldier Field tailgates and exposure-to-the-elements affairs. That's something worth a road trip to Indy or Minnesota, where you can bask in the comfort zone of a dome nowadays.... I also rode in the back of a pickup from Cleveland to Chicago after the Nov. 1983 JGB shows, but that's another story...(sorry, no HS). -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? Date: 3 Oct 2005 21:46:24 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > > These war casualties must be breaking his heart. > > Or else he doesn't have a heart. Just my opinion. > > Your opinion's not unique... Indeed. > Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. > Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains. - > Winston Churchill You shouldn't be so incredulous re- what you read on RushLimbaugh.com, FreeRepublic.com, and the like, PV - Churchill never said that or any variant of that. Moreover that incorrect quote goes against Churchill's own political development. Per the Churchill Centre, quoting Paul Addison of Edinburgh University: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35!" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=112 > A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air. - Winston > Churchill Source? (A reliable source - no, RushLimbaugh.com and the like don't qualify.) Ray __________________ "Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events." - Sir Winston Churchill __________________ "[The Iraq War] could last, you know, six days, six weeks, I doubt six months." - Donald Rumsfield, 2/7/03 "My belief is we will in fact, be greeted as liberators." - Dick Cheney, 3/16/03 "We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon." - Paul Wolfowitz, 3/27/03 "Iraq will not require sustained aid." - White House Budget Director Mitch Daniels, 3/28/03 "Major combat operations have ended." - George W. Bush, 5/1/03 ------------------------------ From: "RomanII" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 3 Oct 2005 22:02:10 -0700 you stilsuck turk bum,toilet cleaner Big Butch Floppie Bwoy wrote: > Hey Koku > > I'm BRITISH and some mad fucknut from Rrrromanian is still screaming > "NAZI TURK" in his shrill pidjing shreiking tones > > Heeheeeheeeheeeheeeeee > > Ooooooopsss Lame little KOKU has gone SPASTIC Again ! > > The defeated little gimp does this every time he's cornered..... > > Making GRANDIOSE announcements to his perceived "Audience" *LOLOL* > "Ladies and gentlemen" *ROTFFLMFAO* > > Kicking and screaming, get so frustrated that only 20 posts per minute > will feed his Rrrroma rage > > Repeating shit OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER as if that will somehow > make it true ! > > MBOUuuuuuuuhahahahahahahahaharrrrharharharharharharharhar ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:04:38 -0400 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:PvOdnQZNzYoInd_eRVn-tg@comcast.com... > Chris Kerrissey wrote: > > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > > Chris Kerrissey wrote: > > > > > heres' my California Driver's license pic from 1993; > > > > http://members.roadfly.org/jehu/Photo_2004_10_5_19_58_18_edited.jpg > > > > > > Somehow, the crazed look and the vapid stare don't surprise me a bit. > > > > He must increase but I must decrease... > > Apparently "decrease" means "talk shit". What of any good have you contributed here? Ask some folks who've gotten music off me if things are as you describe them? Go ahead. Start a thread and ask i dare you. > > > what did you hope to achive with that particular statement? > > I'm not hung up on achievement. It was a statement of fact. We know you're an underachiever,no need to restate the obvious but what you did state was only your opinion from your own warped perspective and nothing more at all. > > > You think I'm some fragile cosmic charlie who's gonna run to momma > > at your lame attempts at bullying? > > No, I think you're a fuckwitted fundamentalist prick with a big mouth. You're entitled to your opinion, fortunaletly it is utterly and entirely worthless beyond its dying echoes within your own head. > > > My focus is directly on the camera without pretense or artifice, total > > openess and surrender. > > Your vacuous stare is not that of an innocent, but that of an idiot. In as much as i am engaging with you over this i am tempted to conced some what on that as you are evidently among the most worthless human beings ever to tarnish the face of God's green Earth. > > A self-aggrandizing idiot, at that. > > > I have large eyes, which the women love. > > Too bad about that miniscule brain. ya 1598 in the SAT, 98th percentile PSAT, IQ tested at 167 all confirm your assertions.. > > > You just can't stand not being the focus of my attention. > > You're delusional. > > > You may not have been suprised by the picture, i'm not suprised at > > your insinuating your smarmy self into the conversation. > > And I'm not at all surprised at your very un-christian response. You aren't a Christian ,you know nothing of what it means ,your accusitory insinuations have no meaning or merit. > > Cue the empty Usenet threats! > > > You would i bet though be surpised by a roundhouse kick to your > > face, > > Not as surprised as you would be if you put your foot in the air > anywhere near me. You live in the Boston area name a place and time and i'll show you how empty they are. > > Look, Maw! I can make empty Usenet threats too! > > > wanna give it a shot ? > > OoOoOoOoooooo...tough guy! What would Jesus do, Chris? Probably send you to outer darkness for eternity..... tick, tick, tick , tick............. > > > Oh and if you'd been paying any attention over the years since i > > shamed you into changing your 'handle' > > You still have yet to explain why you think that my changing my > Usenet name had anything to do with you...not that I expect a > rational answer from a crazy person. > > > you'd have read me telling how my birthday fell on the day of the > > very last Grateful Dead show. > > ... > > What makes you think I care? ditto. You can type out anything which burbles up in your septic imagination. I happen to care about my name and likeness. I'll challenge your shit till you are shown the liar you are. > > > I really should block and ignore your childish bullshit I just don't > > like being misrepresented anywhere especially by someone like you. > > There's no misrepresentation involved. You're a bible-thumping fuckwit In your entirely subjective and thoroughly biased opinion. > who couldn't handle his acid you couldn't have handled a fraction of what i did kid. >and who now thinks that his delusional religion I assume you're referring to Chritianity. If you're willing to call Christ a delusion there really is no point in talking to you. You are blind, willingly. > is somehow relevant to the rest of us.You're also an admitted gate-crasher of Grateful Dead concerts crasher is hardly an accurate characterization. So what? Go tell Phil i snuck in to a few shows in the early 80's he could use a good laugh.I was invited in as a guest more times than i slipped in. > and you fling vitriol as much as anyone here, so I may return in kind if i choose. > you can get down off your moral high horse and kiss my ass > > > The personal info is redacted for my privacy to which i am entitled. > > The story changes with each telling! How delightful... > > My identity is available to those who have a right and reason to know it > > you are not among them, not even close. If you were sincerely interested in the conversation which you saw fit to try and trash you'd have seen i was responding to Steve's comment about furnishing ID to the Law. They have a right to ask for ID ,i have no reason to conceal it from them. Unstable neurotics like you however often end up bothering hard working people with access to their personal information, ever heard of identity theft? > LOL! > > Five minutes and $25 would buy me your current and previous addresses, > your telephone and social security numbers, your credit rating, your > place of business, and the names and birthdays of your loved ones. > Frankly, I don't care enough about you to bother. Not even close. How consistant is that? You've just spent the last half the night dreaming up insuliting abuse to hurl at a stranger because he expressed ideas you can't tolerate.See, healthy people when we encounter something with which we differ,either ignore it and carry on or attempt to engage with reason and intelligent points to win the differing party to their perspective or at least find the reason for the difference. You, well you haven't ever tried that....I know you're reason for differing, you are of the spirit of the antichrist as you have repeatedly and with great venom declared your rejection of His Diety. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: 3 Oct 2005 22:20:23 -0700 Roxanne McDaniel fowarded: > An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made > Disaster of the Welfare State > > > > An Objectivist Review > > > > > > by Robert Tracinski | The Intellectual Activist > > > > September 2, 2005 > > .... > > The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did > not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four > decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view. .... > > What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological > consequences of the welfare state. .... > > But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry > about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't > own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their > businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about > those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living > off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them. Now that we know that the reports of raping and pillaging and the like were blown way out of proportion, are we going to see a retraction, and/or an apology to the underprivileged people of New Orleans, from Mr. Tracinski, "The Intellectual Activist"? Or, even more improbably, an essay declaring that welfare doesn't disproportionately breed baby rapists and other criminal sub-humans after all? Don't count on it - that narrative, of course, doesn't fit the dogma that these types see the world through. They'll just move on to the next horrific event or disaster that they can use as a backdrop for their propaganda. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Corky" Subject: Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 05:25:59 GMT > She kind of looks like Barbara Walters. Then again, that > doesn't mean anything does it? > > Kurt > With all that eye-liner she kinda looks like Keith Richards. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: NDC - Bush selects his own White House counsel for SC post??? Date: 3 Oct 2005 22:32:37 -0700 Spoiling the party Bush's nomination of Harriet Miers, a loyalist with a mediocre r=E9sum=E9 and no legal track record, leaves the left cautious -- and the right furious. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Michael Scherer Oct. 4, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- It was supposed to be a day of celebration, a time for conservative activists to finally claim victory in the great battle for the Supreme Court. They had waited decades to replace swing-voter Sandra Day O'Connor with a justice who could definitively shift American legal thought to the right. They had elected a Republican Senate and a Republican president, a man who claimed to favor the thinking of ideological revolutionaries like Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. They had suggested their list of preferred nominees, a who's who of right-wing legal thinkers that included women, Hispanics and African-Americans. Then President Bush appeared in the Oval Office Monday morning to announce that he had chosen, instead, to replace O'Connor with his own lawyer, a former lottery commissioner from Texas named Harriet Miers. The conservatives reacted first with befuddlement, then with horror. Rush Limbaugh called the nomination a sign of "weakness." The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol declared himself "disappointed, depressed and demoralized." Republican scold Pat Buchanan said Miers' qualifications were "nonexistent." Right-wing strategist Richard Viguerie suggested a betrayal. Former White House speechwriter David Frum, who worked with Miers, asked hopelessly, "What has been done with the opportunity?" A few hours later, dozens of conservative activists called into a teleconference organized by Manuel Miranda, a former Republican Senate aide who now runs the Third Branch Conference, a coalition of organizations that supports conservative judicial picks. The callers, including some of the leading lights of the right wing, gnashed their teeth and vented their frustrations, according to several participants. It was no victory party. "I am not ready to bring out the pom-poms and start the cheering. I was hoping I could," Jan LaRue, chief counsel of Concerned Women for America, said after the call had ended. "I think a lot of great r=E9sum=E9s were set aside here, and I am not sure for the right reason." Miranda predicted that several conservative groups will eventually announce their opposition to Miers on the basis of her thin public record, while others will refuse to actively support the nomination. "More than anything, you will see many groups sitting on the sidelines," said Miranda, who previously worked as an aide to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn. "I think ultimately the president was very ill-served" by his advisors. The nomination of Miers, Miranda added, sends a clear message that any conservative who wants promotion to the highest court must skirt the spotlight and be careful not to create a paper trail. "Because of this decision, a conservative woman today would be well advised, if she wants to sit on the court, never to write a controversial opinion," he said. "There is still a glass ceiling for conservative women in this country." That message directly attacked one of President Bush's public rationales for choosing Miers. Bush used the phrase "first woman" five times in his nomination announcement, pointing out that Miers, 60, had blazed a trail for women in the male-dominated world of corporate law in Texas, eventually becoming president of the State Bar in 1992. Shortly after that achievement, Miers began working for the nascent gubernatorial campaign of George W. Bush. After his election in 1994, Miers continued on as Bush's personal attorney until he appointed her to head the Texas Lottery Commission. She later followed Bush to the White House, where she held several jobs, and was tapped in 2004 to become White House counsel. Throughout her career, however, she has had little public involvement in constitutional law. This is in marked contrast to the president's last nominee, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, who was widely seen as one of the nation's most accomplished constitutional minds, having argued 38 cases before the Supreme Court. "These hearings are going to be a stark contrast to the Roberts hearings," said Roger Pilon, director of the Center for Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. "Can you picture her answering some of the questions that Roberts was asked?" Pilon spent Monday searching for published scholarship by Miers, but he found only two articles -- in Texas Lawyer, a trade magazine. One article concerned the challenges of merging corporate law firms. "Does that sound like the stuff of a Supreme Court justice?" Pilon asked, suggesting that Miers will have a far more difficult time than Roberts during her confirmation hearings. "Over 60 years, she has written almost nothing, and shows no involvement in the raging jurisprudential debates of the day." Although a surprise to some, Miers name had been widely circulated last week as a possible replacement for O'Connor. Nan Aron, the president of the Alliance for Justice, said Miers' file was the only one she had taken with her on a weekend trip to New York. Some Democrats, like Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., expressed relief at Miers' nomination. His spokesman, Jim Manley, told Salon that Reid had suggested Miers name to the president as a possible nominee, though without any promise of support. Aron is withholding judgment, awaiting more records that would shed light on Miers' legal philosophy. She's not convinced by the public collapse of a united front on the right based on the notion that Miers is too moderate a nominee. "It's hard to know what to make of some of the statements coming from some of the extreme, radical-right groups," Aron said. But more information on Miers' personal views is not likely to be forthcoming. It was Miers, after all, who denied, as White House counsel, similar requests by Democrats to release memorandums written by Roberts during the administration of George H.W. Bush. This time, some groups on the right will be joining Aron in calling for more transparency regarding the nominee's judicial philosophy. "Our lack of knowledge about Harriet Miers, and the absence of a record on the bench, give us insufficient information from which to assess whether or not she is indeed in that mold," announced Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, in a press release. "We will be watching closely as the confirmation process begins." Such reticence from the president's base sent the White House and its allies scrambling Monday to control the political fallout. The president's outside supporters made the rounds trying to buck up the spirits of conservative activists. "Some social conservatives don't know her," said Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the conservative American Counsel for Law and Justice, in an interview. He said that the tide had begun to turn in the late afternoon, with more conservatives showing their support. "When they get to know her over the coming weeks, I think they will be very pleased," he said. By midday, Vice President Dick Cheney even called into Rush Limbaugh's radio show to offer assurances. "You'll find when we look back 10 years from now that it will have been a great appointment," Cheney told Limbaugh and his millions of listeners. "You'll be proud of Harriet's record, Rush. Trust me." - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/10/04/miers/index.html ------------------------------ Reply-To: "choro-nik" From: "choro-nik" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 05:40:35 GMT Roman, your knickers are soiled. Very soiled. -- choro-nik ******** "RomanII" wrote in message news:1128402130.686067.209240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > you stilsuck turk bum,toilet cleaner > Big Butch Floppie Bwoy wrote: >> Hey Koku >> >> I'm BRITISH and some mad fucknut from Rrrromanian is still screaming >> "NAZI TURK" in his shrill pidjing shreiking tones >> >> Heeheeeheeeheeeheeeeee >> >> Ooooooopsss Lame little KOKU has gone SPASTIC Again ! >> >> The defeated little gimp does this every time he's cornered..... >> >> Making GRANDIOSE announcements to his perceived "Audience" *LOLOL* >> "Ladies and gentlemen" *ROTFFLMFAO* >> >> Kicking and screaming, get so frustrated that only 20 posts per minute >> will feed his Rrrroma rage >> >> Repeating shit OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER as if that will somehow >> make it true ! >> >> MBOUuuuuuuuhahahahahahahahaharrrrharharharharharharharhar > ------------------------------ From: the.stugots@gmail.com Subject: an example of really good editing (NDC) Date: 3 Oct 2005 22:55:13 -0700 kubrik's "the shining" with a feel good twist file is 10 megs, but worth a look... kinda like what if they showed the shining on "Lifetime"... http://www.ps260.com/molly/SHINING%20FINAL.mov -matt ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .