From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #471 Dead-Flames Digest #471, Volume #48 Sun, 2 Oct 05 10:00:03 PDT Contents: Re: question about "Stuck in the middle with you" (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: I tried to grow a beard (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? ("mjd") Re: FA: GRATEFUL DEAD LP Album Collection SWEET! ("Steve Terry") Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? ("Steve Terry") Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("Pants Awry") Re: I tried to grow a beard ("Brett") Re: No Direction Home ("Shaun") Re: No Direction Home ("Shaun") Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("RomanII") Re: No Direction Home ("Shaun") Re: No Direction Home ("Shaun") Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("Brett") Re: No Direction Home ("Shaun") Re: I tried to grow a beard (Tom Beck) Re: Mix suggestions to introduce newbie ("rcb30") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) (Tom Beck) Re: No Direction Home ("mjd") Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! ("marklaw") Re: I tried to grow a beard (Spider Dawg) Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) (Tom Beck) Re: Today's Strictly Bluegrass Festival ("Corky") Re: No Direction Home (band beyond description) Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up ("Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Richard Morris") Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("Jerry Lobrowski") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: question about "Stuck in the middle with you" Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:28:29 -0400 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > wrote in message > news:1128220457.151043.157780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > you know that song? > > > > I've heard it a thousand times on the radio and if it's not Bob Dylan > > singing, I'll eat my proverbial hat. I was thinking I don't know what > > ablum it's on so I went to Bobdylan.com and couldn't find the song > > there. then googled it and found it is written by "Stealers Wheel" > > which consists of Joe Egan & Gerry Rafferty. > > > > Someone tell me what's up. Isn't that dylan? What album is it on? I > > also saw something about "Reservoir Dogs" on the google... > > As you may have already figured out, its two voices, produced by Lieber and > Stoller to sound like Dylan, sort of. > > One of those voices would later plague the radio world with a horrible > little ditty called Baker Street. *shudder* Damn you for bringing that up! ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:26:07 -0400 Spider Dawg wrote: > > On 2005-10-02, Tom Beck wrote: > > cj wrote: > >> i gottoa goatee and i hate the hot weather. goatees enough. comfort rules > >> 75 degrees and zip humidity > >> cj > > > > > > Try Mexico or CA. About 40% of the > > Gringos down there wear beards and it's > > a lot hotter than you just mentioned. > > > Tom > > I know cj and I think he's lived just about everywhere. We're both in > southern mich now and I agree the weather lately has been perfect. > > I think I hate the heat even more than he does, but I wear a full beard all > year, only shaving my neck and trimming the beard in summer. > > cj, admit it, the only reason you wear a goatee is because you just > c'aint grow a real beard! *heh* That's the reason my father's always had a goatee. Nothing but peachfuzz on the sides. I think it bugged him for a while that I was able to get a full beard by the time I was about 17. Beards don't bother me in the summer...but I did learn a very valuable lesson about having a full beard during summer months...don't shave it off in July or August. You'll spend a day or two looking weird with a neon white chin at the bottom of your face....followed by one of the most annoying sunburns you've ever had. I'm not one for designer facial hair. I see a lot of young guys with these intricately trimmed lines of "beard" running along the jawline to their chin, where they branch out into all manner of silly shapes. They must spend a ridiculaous amount of time in the morning making sure everything's trimmed and shaped properly. I started wearing a beard out of laziness. It's much easier to occasionally hit it with an electric trimmer during the warmer months - and just letting it grow from ~Oct thru ~May - than it is to drag a razor across my face every morning. No thanks. Now, when I get the urge to shave it off every four or five years, it feels weird enough that I let it start growing in again w/in a few days. It's been almost ten years since I went w/out a mustache. I can't imagine ever shaving that off again. That's just too strange a sensation. Naked chins are for women and little boys (or teenagers who go to private high schools that have rules against facial hair)... ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? Date: 2 Oct 2005 07:59:14 -0700 whew - almost panicked for second wondering if I had ever grabbed that off archive, since I dropped the ball on the 10-disc limited edition. quick perusal of my gd subdirectory and what a relief - safely downloaded back in april-04. Now off to burn one for safekeeping... I probably haven't listened to it since I grabbed, so I will now do my due diligence to determine how it stacks up against the 8/23/68 Caution jam piece de resistance speaking of the Fillmore release - anyone else just slightly annoyed at the limited edition idea? Granted, my bad for snoozing through it, but what if one of these days I really want to own that sucker - I'm basically SOL? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: FA: GRATEFUL DEAD LP Album Collection SWEET! Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:01:20 -0500 "mjd" wrote in message > mine are safely tucked away down in > the basement I hope your basement is a dry one. Those covers won't hold up in a damp musty basement. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:05:12 -0500 "mjd" wrote in message: > speaking of the Fillmore release - anyone else just slightly annoyed at > the limited edition idea? Granted, my bad for snoozing through it, but > what if one of these days I really want to own that sucker - I'm > basically SOL? > If you ain't averse to the idea, I'm sure someone will be glad to hook you up with a copy of it sans packaging of course. When a limited edition release sells out, I say trade away. ------------------------------ From: "Pants Awry" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 2 Oct 2005 08:12:12 -0700 She's not my daughter, DICKHEAD ! *LOL* Fooled you again didn't I Mwahahahahahaar But I'll bet her Father is MIGHTY ANGRY with you bitches for saying such SICK and twisted things about his his baby girl ! *LMFAOAY* I have your addresses ! PWNT ! PS Gogu doesnt have a baby, he has a spawn ------------------------------ From: "Brett" Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: 2 Oct 2005 08:55:16 -0700 Jerry Lobrowski wrote: > So I could look like my hero Jerry Garcia when I start my Grateful Dead > tribute band. But my face felt hot and tight so I gave up and shaved so > I could be more comfortable. I know a guy who works as a shopping mall > Santa. I will see if he will let me use his. Has anyone here ever grown > a beard? I have a very thick beard. When I first grew it I was trying to look like Walter Yentikoff (LOL!) Beards rule!!! Brett ------------------------------ From: "Shaun" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 08:56:04 -0700 Brew sez... >Neither the Beatles nor Dylan have done anything interesting since 1966, >with the possible exception of 'Blood on the Tracks'. Oh, and the 'Penny >Lane'/'Strawberry Fields' single. Blood On the Tracks and I had a good laugh at that. I could name other excellent Dylan (and Beatles) work since 1966, incl. Dylan's two most recent albums, and even a few selected solo Beatles gems (primarily from Lennon and Harrison) but that one stands out the most. Peace, Shaun ------------------------------ From: "Shaun" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 08:59:22 -0700 Dylanstubs sez... >Are we speaking of studio work only? Oh Mercy, Time Out of Mind, and >Love and Theft were all great albums They sure are! I always felt Infidels was a seriously underrated album as well. I also like John Wesley Harding, Nashville Skyline and much of Self Portrait, though I don't think any of those hold up to Dylan's pre-1966 work or any of the other, later albums we've mentioned here. Peace, Shaun ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: March 2, 1969 - greatest show ever? Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:35:55 -0400 Steve Terry wrote: > > "mjd" wrote in message: > > > speaking of the Fillmore release - anyone else just slightly annoyed at > > the limited edition idea? Granted, my bad for snoozing through it, but > > what if one of these days I really want to own that sucker - I'm > > basically SOL? > > > If you ain't averse to the idea, I'm sure someone will be glad to hook you > up with a copy of it sans packaging of course. When a limited edition > release sells out, I say trade away. There are Yahoo groups that trade OOP albums. I imagine you'll be able to find a copy of the set there once they've all been shipped and there's nothing to indicate that a re-issue is in the works. ------------------------------ From: "RomanII" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:01:40 -0700 I suggest you buy a monkey retarded turk, it is all right for you to wish death on unborn children-remember your post about Gogu's baby, remember that you fucking sick cocksucker turd? Do you have DNA proof that Chantal is your daughter?of course not.She is a little brain dead turkish bitch Pants Awry wrote: > She's not my daughter, DICKHEAD ! *LOL* Fooled you again didn't I > Mwahahahahahaar > > > But I'll bet her Father is MIGHTY ANGRY with you bitches for saying > such SICK and twisted things about his his baby girl ! > > *LMFAOAY* > > I have your addresses ! > > PWNT ! > > PS Gogu doesnt have a baby, he has a spawn ------------------------------ From: "Shaun" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:05:32 -0700 >I disagree... John Wesley Harding through Street Legal (with the >exception of only Self Portrait perhaps) are absolutely essential Dylan >albums, Interesting... 'Cuz I kinda like Self Portrait (Don't know why, maybe it's the Isle of Wight songs included although I also love some of those cover songs he did on that one) but I have never understood Street Legal. Just never resonated with me. For me, that's the start of his decline. Are you including New Morning (which is OK, I guess) and (gulp) Dylan in that list? I'll grant you Planet Waves and Before the Flood though. BtF is one of my favorite live albums ever. That's the album to play when you want to show people that Dylan could indeed sing! Peace, Shaun ------------------------------ From: "Shaun" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:11:20 -0700 >(Pssst...he can't fucking SING. >Somehow he was able to pull it off in the early years, but lately...) The Grateful Dead and I had a good laugh about this one. Seriously though, Dylan's voice is a croak these days but it still carries, at least to me, a certain aging bluesman's quality that fits the songs. Take the song "Mississippi" as a good reference point. I've heard others sing songs from Time Out Of Mind and Love & Theft, and while some of them are pretty good I don't know that any of them havbe the same weight to them as they do when Dylan sings them. That said, the last couple times I've seen him live his voice is getting worse. What are you gonna do? In his case, I don't think retirement is an option. I wouldn't want him toeither, not if he'll manage to keep producing work like those last couple of albums. Unless he manages to get the other two voulmes of memoirs out... That would be a good reason for him to take some time off and let his voice rest. Peace, Shaun ------------------------------ From: "Brett" Subject: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:12:41 -0700 I have so many great memories about Tucker and their music. Did anyone else here have the pleasure of seeing Marshall Tucker live in concert? They have about 100 great songs - if not, more! RIP Toy and Tommy... ;( Brett ------------------------------ From: "Shaun" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:14:06 -0700 >>Brew sez... >>Neither the Beatles nor Dylan have done anything interesting since 1966, >>with the possible exception of 'Blood on the Tracks'. Oh, and the 'Penny >>Lane'/'Strawberry Fields' single. >Blood On the Tracks and I had a good laugh at that. Of course, had I bothered to read every word of your post, brew, I'd have noticed that you gave Blood On the Tracks some props. Sorry. :-) Not enough props, IMO, but you acknowledged it. Mea culpa, Shaun ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:19:32 -0500 The Lord of Eltingville wrote: > Spider Dawg wrote: > >>On 2005-10-02, Tom Beck wrote: >> >>>cj wrote: >>> >>>>i gottoa goatee and i hate the hot weather. goatees enough. comfort rules >>>>75 degrees and zip humidity >>>>cj >>> >>> >>>Try Mexico or CA. About 40% of the >>>Gringos down there wear beards and it's >>>a lot hotter than you just mentioned. >>> >> >> Tom >> >>I know cj and I think he's lived just about everywhere. We're both in >>southern mich now and I agree the weather lately has been perfect. >> >>I think I hate the heat even more than he does, but I wear a full beard all >>year, only shaving my neck and trimming the beard in summer. Personally, I love the heat. But I shaved my neck and trimmed my beard constantly. Nothing quite like the special treat of of having your facial hair freeze into the zipper of your Parka, know what I mean? >> >>cj, admit it, the only reason you wear a goatee is because you just >>c'aint grow a real beard! > > > *heh* That's the reason my father's always had a goatee. Nothing but > peachfuzz on the sides. I think it bugged him for a while that I was > able to get a full beard by the time I was about 17. When I started to have to shave at about 17, my father told me "You'll soon find out it's a bitch to deal with every day." And he was right. Women don't generally like it much, and keeping your face smooth can be a lot of work. If I never shaved any part of my face or neck, I'd look like the "Werewolf of London". And I don't care for that. Tom ------------------------------ From: "rcb30" Subject: Re: Mix suggestions to introduce newbie Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:21:14 -0700 It might be my favorite, but I'm a sucker for that electricpiano-era sound. IMO disc 4 and one of the other discs would probably be worth the price alone. rcb ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:35:44 -0500 volkfolk wrote: > "Ray" wrote in message > news:1128034828.093523.253270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>king88uy7 wrote: >> >>>Richard Morris >>> >>>>You don't want your wife to find out, so you lie about it. To borrow from another thread, does the same standard hold true if you buy a $4K guitar? >>>Again, I don't think it works to have the person under oath pick and >>>choose when to tell the truth.... I think perjury punishments make >>>sense. >> >>I agree. 2 points however: >> >>1) Lying about or obfuscating about personal mutually-consensual sexual >>relations -- even under oath -- IMO does not rise to the level of "high >>crimes and misdemeanors" that warrant the impeachment of a president. I would simply have refused to answer such questions on the grounds that they were my own private business. Just let me see "congress" indict me for contempt under such conditions. Even those lying, two faced pricks wouldn't have had the gall to do that. >>--- > What a bunch of bullshit. Without debating whether or not the > Clinton/Lewinski affair was an impeachable offence, would your wife, > girlfriend or SO buy this complete pile of doubletalking BS if you were > caught doing the same thing with somebody? No. And I'd probably be walking kinda funny for a while. > > I can tell you that if I ever tried to pass this BS off to Jane, I would be > living in the VW bus somewhere along the Merrimack River > > Scot ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:33:18 -0700 I really dig Oh Mercy - it's pretty underrated IMHO. 'Most of the Time' is just an awesome song. In the perilously over-saturated canon of lost-love laments, it is the unsung and largely unheard standard-bearer. ------------------------------ From: "marklaw" Subject: Re: Marshall Tucker Band Rules! Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:33:37 -0700 Saw them in De Kalb IL in fall of 1974, and got to meet most of them. Their contract rider called for copious quantities of alcoholic beverages, which had to be purchased off the books because state money couldn't be spent on booze. They were absolutely shit faced walking onto the stage, and they played a flawless show. Charlie Daniels opened. ------------------------------ From: Spider Dawg Subject: Re: I tried to grow a beard Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:35:24 -0500 On 2005-10-02, Tom Beck wrote: > Personally, I love the heat. But I shaved my neck > and trimmed my beard constantly. Nothing quite like > the special treat of of having your facial hair freeze > into the zipper of your Parka, know what I mean? The sensation of nose hairs freezing is much worse than the beard freezing IMO. Facial hair is a useful thermometer: mustache freezes it's below +10F, nose hair freezes it's below +5F, nose hair freezes despite face mask, it's below -5F, heart stops beating it's........ Jim ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:42:32 -0500 volkfolk wrote: > "JimK" wrote in message > news:92hoj15bu8k7ojqhijj4nmqafrfmi8fm43@4ax.com... > > >>Why should we talk about prior corrupt Democrats when the issue today >>is Tom Delay? > > > Because it's fun :^) > > Scot > Oh yeah, suck me silly! They lie. They all lie. You just 'gotta choose which liars most closely represent your own views. Learn to live with it, but never learn to love it. Tom ------------------------------ From: "Corky" Subject: Re: Today's Strictly Bluegrass Festival Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:38:31 GMT My son and I got into the park just in time to catch Joan Baez's fine set. She sang a good version of Jack-A-Roe that I thought she said that she had recorded with the Grateful Dead (huh?) We then heard partial sets of the Del McCourey Band, Rodney Crowell (these guys kicked ass), Doc Watson and the Knitters. Gillian Welch and her husband David Rawlings are my favorites. Their set was excellent, highlighted by David singing Cindy Lauper's Girls Just Want To Have Fun (it was great, honest) and Gillian closing out the show with White Rabbit. This festival is getting bigger every year. Jah bless Warren Hellman. Corky ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:40:38 +0900 On 2005-09-30 06:04:29 +0900, brew ziggins said: > Thus spake wyeknot108@oohay.com... >> brew ziggins wrote: > >>> I've just lost track of which of the Marks that post under various >>> screen names are trolls and which not. >> >> Which therefore disqualifies you from dimissing vast volumes of Dylan's >> catalog. > > I'm really not sure why ignoring most of the idiotic flame wars on this > group disqualifies me from having an opinion about Bob Dylan I grant you that Dylan is cyclical, but 1966 as a quality benchmark is going back a little too far for me...he really did great stuff, in terms of strength of material and musical chops (live especially) in recent years when Charlie Sexton and Larry Campbell were part of the quartet. And there were nice little cycles at other times, too (1975 and 1978 tours come to mind, and I'm sure others could articulate other points in Dylan's career, without being *too* fanboy about it). -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: chantal up for adoption,limo busines is fycked up Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:41:55 -0700 Nasty bitch ! *LOL GOGU!!!!!!! SAY CHEESE YOU NASTY BITCH !!!!!! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:47:12 -0700 "Tom Beck" wrote in message news:43400C60.7010403@pclink.com... > volkfolk wrote: >> "Ray" wrote in message >> news:1128034828.093523.253270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >>>king88uy7 wrote: >>> >>>>Richard Morris >>>> >>>>>You don't want your wife to find out, so you lie about it. > > > To borrow from another thread, does the same > standard hold true if you buy a $4K guitar? > > > >>>>Again, I don't think it works to have the person under oath pick and >>>>choose when to tell the truth.... I think perjury punishments make >>>>sense. >>> >>>I agree. 2 points however: >>> >>>1) Lying about or obfuscating about personal mutually-consensual sexual >>>relations -- even under oath -- IMO does not rise to the level of "high >>>crimes and misdemeanors" that warrant the impeachment of a president. > > > I would simply have refused to answer such > questions on the grounds that they were my > own private business. Just let me see "congress" > indict me for contempt under such conditions. > Even those lying, two faced pricks wouldn't have > had the gall to do that. But think about both the legal and political consequences. Legally, you are a sitting president that has just refused to answer question put to you by (as I recall) a grand jury. It wouldn't be congress indicting you for contempt in those circumstances ... and all of a sudden you have a constitutional crisis looming. Politically, you are screwed if you don't answer. Refusing to answer the question, "didja have sex with that woman" is the same as saying, "yep". Clinton was/is generally politically astute ... but to allowing himself to get into this situation in the first place was really, really unfortunate. When folks are shooting at you, it is dumb to stick your head up. In my opinion there is a character flaw there. Anyhow ... that was my point earlier ... you may *think* it is your private business, but the law does not allow that level of privacy. R. ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Lobrowski" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: 2 Oct 2005 09:49:37 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > > I am a probably one of the most anti government people here. I consider > myself to be a fairly hard core libertarian, Bullshit. >and definitely don't believe in > the concept of frivolous lawsuits, but I think that this is one case where > there should be some consistency. If laws are being enforced unequally, then > that is clearly an unjust (and unconstitutional) law that either needs to be > enforced or changed. As it stands right now, I think it is a corrupt system > that needs to be fixed. Or you can learn the system and work it to your advantage. Or maybe get a business license if you want to sell an extra ticket on the street. It may not be inconsistent if the city of Mansfield, under lobbying by the venue, has outlawed any ticket sales within the city limits. Its why these small town suburban venues or a major pain in the ass but its easy as hell to get away with it in a major city. BTW I scored a very cheap ticket to a "sold out" event at a major venue last night. > > I can tell you that as someone who has waited in line at a venue and on line > to try and get a ticket to a big show, and been shut out after a very short > period of time,.I feel very cheated by a system that is obviously rigged > against the consumer. > But its not necessarily rigged in favor of the scalpers. Lots of those tickets never go to the general public to begin with. They go to season ticket holders and corporate interests. The venue may hold 15,000 but there may not necessarily be 15,000 made available to the general public. > The system is also cheating the artist too, since the the scalpers are > taking product off the market and (illegally) inflating the price. > Ever walk into a ticket broker office across the street from a venue an hour before showtime and ask for the best ticket available for $20? I have. At the last minute the market still sets the prices. > It is irrelevant if you are talking about a luxury item or not, consumers > deserve protection against unscrupulous business practices, and artists > deserve to have their tickets reach their fans with out some racket that is > adding an artificial cost to the price of their ticket > Is it adding an artificial cost to the ticket when a band charges $200 yet there are 5,000 empty seats in the venue that havent been sold, and the street value plummets to pocket change? If that ticket isnt really worth $200 then to me its an artificial inflation. > I don't understand why you would defend this practice,.unless you think it > is ok to lie, cheat and steal, because that is what the business amounts > too. > Maybe we need a government agency in charge of ticket distribution. A cabinet level agency if necessary. All advertising or Ticketmaster notifications MUST tell you exactly how many seats will be made available to the general public and where those seats are located. Tickets must be sold in the order of best available by price. None of these Ticketmaster tricks that move sales to the back of the venue in order to create urgency of pending immediete sellout. And why stop at venues and brokers when fans wanting to see these shows are part of the problem? If Phil Lesh is playing 2 sold out nights at the Beacon, why should you be allowed to go to both shows if I have yet to get a ticket for even 1? And if you are a lucky enough to score a front row Aerosmith ticket then you cannot be allowed to sit in the front row at another concert until everybody who wants to sit in the front row gets that chance. Lets make this system fair for EVERYBODY. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .