From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #464 Dead-Flames Digest #464, Volume #48 Sat, 1 Oct 05 08:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Gore 08 ??? (Seth Jackson) Re: I like JGB better than GD (Seth Jackson) Re: SoCal in Autumn ("Jerry Lobrowski") Re: Phil? (Seth Jackson) Republicans are scum ("sacha") Republicans are scum ("sacha") Re: We're Excited (NDC) (Steve Lenier) Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? (Steve Lenier) Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? ("Me") Re: Tie Dye offer #3 - last chance till Xmas (RossMcGibbon) Re: Tie Dye offer #3 - last chance till Xmas ("Nick's Picks") Re: Billy Goat Tavern (NDC) (Andy Gefen) Re: Republicans are scum ("Don Bean") Re: essential AUD recordings... ("Bzl.") Re: We're Excited (NDC) (JimK) Re: essential AUD recordings... ("Tim Ujin") Re: Phil? ("Bzl.") Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? ("Tom *Hooray Henry* Trosborg") Holy CRAP! (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Who is this guy? ("volkfolk") Re:THANKS! essential AUD recordings... ("Jamie Fisher") Re: THANKS! essential AUD recordings... (the.stugots@gmail.com) Re: Who is this guy? ("starkers") Seanie put Chantal up for adoption,limo busines is BAD ("Takis42nd") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:12:09 GMT On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:25:00 GMT, JC Martin wrote: >Seth Jackson wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:09:01 GMT, JC Martin >> wrote: >> >> >>>Doesn't matter what he looks like or even his politics. The media and >>>Richardson himself would have no problem educating the public on his >>>ethnicity. Many of you are just naive. White America isn't ready to >>>hand over the most powerful position in the world to a Latino, which is >>>the reason Richardson unfortunately won't be nominated. It's not that >>>it's right. It's just the reality of a white culture which fears t >> >> >> I just don't think there's all that big a stigma against Latinos, >> expecially ones who speak fluent English and whose names sound Anglo. > > > >Spoken like a true Californian, a Los Angeles Californian no less. ;-) I was born and raised on the East Coast. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: I like JGB better than GD Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:23:39 GMT On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:37:04 GMT, "Bill" wrote: > >"Seth Jackson" wrote in message >news:8plpj11ip71l09ljreruj6n07skuc7g84q@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:02 -0700, "staffino" >> wrote: >> >> >1. No Bob Weir singing. >> >2. No Bob Weir songs. >> >3. Bob Weir isn't within 50 miles of the place. >> >4. Did I mention no Bob Weir singing?---staffino >> >> You've just named 4 big reasons why I prefer the Grateful Dead. Not >> to mention Weir's guitar playing (excluding slide). > > >If you want to hear a great Weir slide, listen to him during the jam to If I >Had the World to Give from 11-20-78. His subtle slide work in combo with >Jerry's playing really is something. I've heard that one. It works. One of the rare examples. ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Lobrowski" Subject: Re: SoCal in Autumn Date: 1 Oct 2005 00:23:43 -0700 Andrew Murawa wrote: > Ah, Southern California in autumn (also known as fire season) is such a > beautiful thing... The smoke for the fires in the distance billowing up > into the sky like so many Nagasakis and Hiroshimas... And then, when up > close, the beautiful dark brown smoke of the brush fires combines with > the dusty gray of the ever prevalent smog to turn the normally greyish > blue sky into a lovely brownish grey, like so much dirty water running > down a hairclogged drain... I am deeply offended by your Nagasaki and Hiroshima analogy. > > And the smell! Oh, how can one describe such a smell that takes me > immediately back to more carefree days when I was a child running and > playing the streets like a little Nero playing his fiddle while the > hillsides above me burned... Days like this make me feel almost guilty > for not smoking enough... What, smoking is supposed to be bad for me? > Hah! I scoff at your insinuation... I want double the smoke... Gimme > nicotine flavored smoke couple with the chapparal flavor smoke > circulating around the city and I'll be damned if this ain't a high > quality cigar I'm sucking down in 10 seconds flat... I got home and it was hot so I stuck a fan in my window. Now my whole bedroom smells like charcoal. > > And of course, the snow... We don't get a lot of that fancy "cold snow" > that they get in other places in the world, but man oh man, when it > starts raining ash for miles around, when every person on the street > (hah, like people hang out on the street in LA) looks like a Catholic > who's pastor went a little overboard on Ash Wednesday, ah... it just > feels like home... > > It just makes me get all teary eyed... I got off the bus and got ashes in my eyeballs. So I get to look stoned without the benefit of feeling stoned. > > Now laughing friends deride, > Tears I cannot hide, > So I smile and say, when a lovely flame dies, > Smoke gets in your eyes.... ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Phil? Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:31:14 GMT On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:29:23 -0400, "volkfolk" wrote: > >"Cozmik Charlie T" wrote in message >news:kPWdnW4AKfPm96DeRVn-qQ@comcast.com... >> >> "DanPopp" wrote in message >> news:1128097126.748351.188610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/30/DDG11DCFM21.DTL >>> >>> scroll down...hmmmm >>> >> >> Phil hates Bobby. >> >> HTH > >I get the sense that the feeling is mutual Such as shame after all these years. ------------------------------ From: "sacha" Subject: Republicans are scum Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:44:47 -0600 and want you and your families DEAD! And they will see to it if they aren't all rotting in JAIL!! All hail the Free Mexican Airforce! Patrick (The devil made me do it I swear) -- The best things in life aren't things -- The best things in life aren't things ------------------------------ From: "sacha" Subject: Republicans are scum Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:46:21 -0600 Republicans are scum and want you and your families DEAD! And they will see to it if they aren't all rotting in JAIL!! All hail the Free Mexican Airforce! Patrick (The devil made me do it I swear) -- The best things in life aren't things ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:22:06 -0700 Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) From: Steve Lenier in article R%d%e.814$Aw.13283@typhoon.sonic.net, JC Martin at jcmartin@sonic.net wrote on 9/30/05 9:48 AM: > http://kdka.com/consumer/local_story_154174957.html > > 2003 Lemon cars...... interestingly, while the Forester is #15 on the lemon list, if you take the link to the "good cars" list, the Forester is #3...did I mention mine is the turbo? Gas costs more, and it's one more thing to go wrong, but I'm tellin' ya that thing sets me back in my seat when I punch it in. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:32:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? From: Steve Lenier in article X92dnaLmNanR7KDeRVn-tA@comcast.com, volkfolk at volkfolk@comcast.net wrote on 9/30/05 10:09 AM: > > wrote >> AUSTIN Powers star Mike Myers is to play the late Keith Moon in a film >> about The Who's wild drummer. > > He is only about 20 years too old for the part. It should be about as > memorable as Kevin Spacey playing Bobby Darin > > Scot > > I don't know why they don't get Animal to play Moonie. It's like he was made for the role. Moon is possibly my favorite drummer, he's definitely influenced my playing a LOT. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Me" Crossposted-To: alt.music.who Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: 1 Oct 2005 02:01:31 -0700 Really? I thought that Gollum would be a much more suitable choice. The Lord of Eltingville wrote:> > Have you seen Pete lately? I think John Lithgow would be a more > suitable choice... ------------------------------ From: RossMcGibbon Subject: Re: Tie Dye offer #3 - last chance till Xmas Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:21:54 +0100 Sorry to send a message to Nick on the group but my emails don't get through to him. Nick, Fantastic shirts. Just gorgeous. Can I buy two off you plese. I have no idea why my mail doesn't get to you but I'm sending this on the group and from my work email in the hope it gets through.... Having missed the pre-oder, can I grab 2 of the large shirts please. - 100_0857 and Tornado Ally. If either of them have gone, Snake is my back-up choice. I'm in the UK so postage will be a bit more. Cheers, Ross In article <1128128213.755891.142820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Nick's Picks writes >Hey now folks... >I dont think i'm going to do any more for a while. >this is what I have left for stock. they are organized in folders by >size. what you see is what you get, so no custom orders or sizes. > >If you want one, email me and lmk which one. i'll take it down off the >server. >twenty-bones+$4 for shipping. > -- RossMcGibbon For music reviews, arts, opinions and more - www.vanguard-online.co.uk "I've been all around the world and I've never seen a statue of a critic" - Leonard Bernstein ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: Tie Dye offer #3 - last chance till Xmas Date: 1 Oct 2005 04:45:15 -0700 Thanks everyone. I had lots of inspiration ...back in the day. Good to see I havn't lost my touch. though, I used to do more refined work. some of this stuff is a little sloppy to me. colors bleeding out, little things. when I make a shirt, I conceptualize it first...colors and all. So i have more than a good idea as to what the finished product will look like. shirts that are really nice to some of you are disasters to me. :) ------------------------------ From: Andy Gefen Subject: Re: Billy Goat Tavern (NDC) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:55:27 -0400 On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 15:48:57 +0900, band beyond description <123@456.com> wrote: >Chee-borgah, chee-borgah, a taste of Chicago is on its way to DC... > http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=580891 No Coke, Pepsi? Sorry, I'll be eating elsewhere. -- Andy (remove z's to respond) ------------------------------ From: "Don Bean" Subject: Re: Republicans are scum Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 08:04:30 -0400 I wouldnt say that.... but the real right wing guys are scum for sure... actually anyone who way too extreeme will get you in the back with a knife... Bean "sacha" wrote in message news:433e450b@news.accesscomm.ca... > and want you and your families DEAD! And they will see > to it if they aren't all rotting in JAIL!! > All hail the Free Mexican Airforce! > Patrick > (The devil made me do it I swear) > > -- > The best things in life aren't things > > > > -- > The best things in life aren't things > > ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 08:39:37 -0400 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:dhi30o$mi5$1@news.iquest.net... > > wrote in message > news:1128041640.376011.32190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Disclaimers up front - I generally prefer SBDs to AUDs and have a > > marked preference for '60's & '70's GD vs. '80's & '90's GD. > > > > For AUDs that are better than the SBDs of the same show, look to the > > FOB's of the MSG Sept. '90 shows, imo. Others that come to mind are > > Jeff Silberman's 10.21.83, or Rango Keshavan's recordings of the Greek > > '83 shows & 10.10.82. > > > > Some would disagree but I'd also take the AUD of 6.30.73 over the > > rather flat SBD every time. > > > > I wouldn't call Jerry Moore's AUDs of 6.22 & 6.23.74 necessarily > > "better" than the SBDs, but they provide a spectacular reference. > > > > When I think essential AUDs, though, I think more of AUDs of killer > > shows for which no SBD circulates. Some can be a bit skeevy, but the > > performances are better than a majority of shows that circulate in > > crispy SBD form. And then some just sound great and are the only form > > in circulation. > > > > A little rough but well worth it - 3.21.70, 5.7.70, 6.24.70, 9.17.70, > > 11.5.70, 11.6.70, 11.8.70, 9.19.72 for starters > > > > Very good recordings and no SBD in circulation, fantastic shows - > > 11.13.72, 7.1.73, 7.21.74, 1.10.79, 1.12.79, 1.15.79, 9.6.80, 11.29.80, > > 11.30.80 set II > > > > I wouldn't call 6.28.76 a spectacular or particularly bad recording, > > but you're not going to hear that terrific Eyes > drums > Happiness is > > Drumming > Wharf Rat otherwise. Same for the 9.24.76 Playin' > > > Supplication > Playin'. Or the 9.27.76 variation on the Help > Slip > > > Frank suite. > > > > Another category - shows where the cuts in the SBD are a bit > > distracting, causing me to prefer the AUD - 6.22.73 and 10.15.76 leap > > to mind. > > > > Hope that helps... happy listening! > > > > MJ > > > > Great info here, and 11/29/80 is one of my fav shows period, sbd or aud. > Thanks for reminding me. > Ditto what Steve said. Aaahhh... 11/29/80! ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:05:41 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:22:06 -0700, Steve Lenier wrote: >interestingly, while the Forester is #15 on the lemon list, if you take the >link to the "good cars" list, the Forester is #3...did I mention mine is the >turbo? Gas costs more, and it's one more thing to go wrong, but I'm tellin' >ya that thing sets me back in my seat when I punch it in. > >Steve IAAHSWYPII? JimK ------------------------------ From: "Tim Ujin" Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: 1 Oct 2005 06:10:53 -0700 I already posted a response to this one, and then it dawned on me that I had forgotten to mention my favorite AUD show - 6/14/68! ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: Phil? Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:31:24 -0400 "Rick Wolfish" wrote in message news:1128111640.447684.16800@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The Rolling Stone article said the same thing, specifically that the > fight was between Phil and Bobby. > My question, where was Robert Hunter and David Grisman?? My spies > tell be David was in town. > Rick > They were at a I Hate Bobby rally with Phil ------------------------------ From: "Tom *Hooray Henry* Trosborg" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? Date: 1 Oct 2005 06:32:44 -0700 True Rev'd ................but you're only saying that because you;'re an Anglicam Izerntit ! *LOL* ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Holy CRAP! Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:25:21 -0400 I'm all for bands coming up with new ways to market themselves, but this takes the cake. What's next...an infomercial starring Billy Mays and Barry Williams? Now, more than ever, I'd be embarrassd to admit to paying hundreds of dollars to see these guys... -- Stones in lather over 'Days of Our Lives' By Michael Paoletta 30 minutes ago NEW YORK (Billboard) - Few would question the Rolling Stones' credentials as chick magnets. So how do the ageless rockers attract the ladies' attention these days? One method could be a multifaceted tie-in with NBC soap opera "Days of Our Lives." Look for "Streets of Love" -- the new single and video from the Stones' new album, "A Bigger Bang" -- to find its way onto the show October 18, and then become a recurring love theme for one of the show's story lines. "They understand it's a great way to hit women," Randy Miller, executive VP of marketing at Virgin Records, said Tuesday during a panel held during New York's Advertising Week. He was referring, naturally, to the soap's main demographic. Is this the ultimate sellout for the Stones? No way, said panelist Cheryl Berman, chairwoman and chief creative officer for the Leo Burnett ad agency. "Selling out has changed," Berman said. "Selling out means you're doing bad creative." Reuters/Billboard -- ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Who is this guy? Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:19:09 -0400 "starkers" wrote in message news:1128130994.387246.129860@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://www.zippyvideos.com/6312423691197996/movie_0001/ > > anybody know this guy? > > 411 was busy He sucks, I could play rings around him ######## Seriously, I would love to know who he is too Scot ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Fisher" Subject: Re:THANKS! essential AUD recordings... Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:34:03 GMT This thread has me d/l'n so many Aud's right now and jammin' to the 90 Knick...gotta love the chills and goosebumps! ------------------------------ From: the.stugots@gmail.com Subject: Re: THANKS! essential AUD recordings... Date: 1 Oct 2005 07:37:33 -0700 ditto on the thanks... perhaps the most constructive thread i ever started... -matt ------------------------------ From: "starkers" Subject: Re: Who is this guy? Date: 1 Oct 2005 07:46:53 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > > He sucks, I could play rings around him ######## > > Seriously, I would love to know who he is too > > Scot Found somebody that knew him... http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/TommyEmmanuel/ From: roryfan@comcast.net Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:36:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Anybody know this guy? To: He's Tommy Emmanuel from Australia. I've seen him 5 times and looking forward to the next time... he's amazing. I think it was Todd Rungren who once said 'Tommy is the best two acoustic players in the world' john ganjamie http://www.roryon.com ------------------------------ From: "Takis42nd" Crossposted-To: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek Subject: Seanie put Chantal up for adoption,limo busines is BAD Date: 1 Oct 2005 07:47:23 -0700 Ruttledge is ma name, I'm behind in my game Still, a limo driver, still rolling on the streets Still not loving those, muthafacking griks Still in my tuxedo, with a cuff and a crease Still love the Toorks, even if they is creeps Still getting bitchslapped, still doing my thang Since 1990, ain't too much changed, still wif dat bitch Tom *Hooray Henry* Trosborg wrote: > True Rev'd ................but you're only saying that because you;'re > an Anglicam Izerntit ! > > *LOL* ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .