From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #457 Dead-Flames Digest #457, Volume #48 Fri, 30 Sep 05 11:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: Phil? ("Cozmik Charlie T") Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("volkfolk") Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("volkfolk") Re: We're Excited (NDC) (JC Martin) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (leftie) Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("volkfolk") Re: We're Excited (NDC) (JC Martin) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (leftie) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (wyeknot) Re: We're Excited (NDC) (JC Martin) Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (leftie) Re: We're Excited (NDC) (brew ziggins) Re: We're Excited (NDC) (JC Martin) Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("rcb30") Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? ("volkfolk") Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (leftie) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: essential AUD recordings... (tonewoods@rockisland.com) Re: Phil? (JimK) Ratdog @ Penn's Peak in Jim Thorpe?? (mahmut4@yahoo.com) Re: One man takes on the scalpers (DG) Re: Phil? ("volkfolk") Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? ("Me") Re: (NDC) Bug Man goin' down? ("volkfolk") Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? ("Rogues Island's finest") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:37:35 -0700 leftie wrote: > >DG wrote: > >> Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> >>>Rupert wrote: >>> >>>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>>drugs"! >>> >>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>inflated price. >> >> It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >> for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >> and STFU. > >Horseshit. Fuck the scalpers. Any way, every day. LOL... Down with free market econimics!############## ------------------------------ From: "Cozmik Charlie T" Subject: Re: Phil? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:40:26 -0700 "DanPopp" wrote in message news:1128097126.748351.188610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/30/DDG11DCFM21.DTL > > scroll down...hmmmm > Phil hates Bobby. HTH ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:41:35 -0400 "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1128087550.643090.297690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > David Kurzman, I salute you. Get the bastards. Amen Brother. Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:44:00 -0400 "DG" wrote in message news:qfpqj15ef4tibielvcgpp2cjgi5uliv1nv@4ax.com... > Rogues Island's finest wrote: >> >>Rupert wrote: >>> How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>> to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>> people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>> them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>> drugs"! >> >>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>inflated price. > > > It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag > for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy > and STFU. I think that he has a better case, having the letter in hand that asked him to lie about where he bought them, rather than not having bought them YMMV, Scot ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:44:17 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >> brew ziggins wrote: >> >>> Thus spake Davko58@crestviewcable.com... >>> >>>> >>>> Surprisingly, out here in redneck cowboy country, and especially in >>>> my neighborhood of retired loggers, loaders, saw filers, >>>> construction workers, fishermen, farmers, and ranchers, Suburus are >>>> everywhere. >>>> >>>> 25% of these people are driving 4X4 Suburus. We have weather here, >>>> snow, cold, sun, heat. We have mountains, huge stretches of nothing >>>> but hills, valleys and cows, and forests galore. Lots and lots of >>>> dirt roads. Most people think nothing of driving miles and miles on >>>> dirt roads to cut their firewood, Christmas trees, to hunt deer, >>>> birds, and elk. They think nothing of driving miles and miles on >>>> dirt roads to get to that special fishing spot. They tow utility >>>> trailers, small heavy equipment, boats, and travel trailers. >>>> >>>> And they drive these 4X4 Suburus. They must be sturdy and last a >>>> while, these aren't rich yuppies buying a new rig every other year. >>>> These vehicles get a workout here. They can't be all that terrible. >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I think Subarus thrive in tough climates. They must get bored >>> touring around the Bay Area with their pampered drivers and >>> eventually throw a gasket just to put themselves out of their misery. >> >> >> You guys, the complaints I'm reading are from all over the country. >> Sheesh! Do a Google. > > > I did do a Google and I still don't know what you're talking > about. Why don't *you* do a Goggle and post the relevant links. > > We have bought but three new cars in our lives. A 1988 Volvo > 240 wagon, we still have her, she has 240,000+ on her, a 2000 > Subaru Forester that I used during my trout bum, mid-life > sabbatical in Montana and sold when I came back to Chambana, and > we just bought one of the last 2005 Foresters from a lot full > of 2006s. We did our homework on all three occasions. The Subaru > Forester is considered one of the most consistently reliable > cars on the market by Consumer Reports, Car and Driver and any > other source you care to consult. Except your version of Google > apparently. Touchy, touchy. Consumer Reports? Car & Driver? *LOL* I prefer reading what people have to say over corporate shills. -JC ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:48:01 -0700 Rupert wrote: > How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul > to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these > people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using > them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me > drugs"! No, it's more like the gasoline dealers in an area conspiraing to price gouge. You can fill up your tank at the artificial and illegal prices, decide to sue to right the wrong. But you don't have to siphon the gasoline out of your tank before you do. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:49:02 -0400 "DG" wrote in message news:kdqqj1pdu1op4bvtrrhgiiaf5a1dg2rspp@4ax.com... > leftie wrote: >> >>DG wrote: >> >>> Rogues Island's finest wrote: >>> >>>>Rupert wrote: >>>> >>>>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>>>drugs"! >>>> >>>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>>inflated price. >>> >>> It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >>> for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >>> and STFU. >> >>Horseshit. Fuck the scalpers. Any way, every day. > > > LOL... > > Down with free market econimics!############## It isn't free market economics, these ticket agencys are completely corrupt and tied in with the promoters. I can't speak to how it works in your part of the world, but here in the Northeast a big show or ballgame sells out in a matter of minutes and the ticket agents have them for sale well above face value, sometimes BEFORE the show goes on sale. They are scum, plain and simple, They are screwing both the performers and the fans Scot ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:48:49 GMT http://kdka.com/consumer/local_story_154174957.html 2003 Lemon cars...... ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:49:48 -0700 DG wrote: > leftie wrote: > >>DG wrote: >> >> >>>Rogues Island's finest wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Rupert wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>>>drugs"! >>>> >>>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>>inflated price. >>> >>>It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >>>for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >>>and STFU. >> >>Horseshit. Fuck the scalpers. Any way, every day. > > LOL... > > Down with free market econimics!############## There is no free market when it comes to ticket scalping. The business is corrupt from top to bottom. http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/reports/scalping/exec_summary.html ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:50:12 -0400 volkfolk wrote: > "DG" wrote in message > >>It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >>for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >>and STFU. > > I think that he has a better case, having the letter in hand that asked him > to lie about where he bought them, rather than not having bought them Yeah, but that deflates the hard-line stance rant completely. Matt P.S. The letter instructing the purchaser to lie is priceless. And damning. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:51:28 GMT http://www.subaruproblems.com/ -JC ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Crossposted-To: alt.music.who Subject: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: 30 Sep 2005 09:51:23 -0700 http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/entertainment/filmandtv/s/176/176161_mike_myers_to_play_keith_moon.html Thursday, 29th September 2005 Mike Myers to play Keith Moon AUSTIN Powers star Mike Myers is to play the late Keith Moon in a film about The Who's wild drummer. The band's lead singer Roger Daltrey is producing the movie, which is finally getting off the ground after 10 years. Myers first became interested in the role several years ago, but was too busy to sign on the dotted line. But movie bible Variety reported that he is now set to play one of his great heroes. Moon died from an overdose of prescription drugs in 1978, at the age of 32, after securing a place in rock history. Myers, 42, who last appeared on screen in The Cat In The Hat, a movie adaptation of the famous Dr Seuss story, met Daltrey in 2002 to talk about the project, and the singer endorsed him. Scorsese The movie is being made with Spitfire Pictures, which produced Martin Scorsese's documentary Bob Dylan: No Direction Home. Moon's penchant for blowing up toilets, heaving televisions out of hotel windows and letting off fire extinguishers set the rock 'n' roll standard for trashing hotel rooms. His frenzied drumming style provided the inspiration for the Muppet character Animal. Moon once rigged his drum kit to explode at the climax of My Generation during an appearance on American TV - causing guitarist Pete Townshend's hair to catch fire, and Moon to get injured as well. The Who's bassist John Entwistle was found dead in a Las Vegas hotel room in 2002 on the eve of a US tour by the band. Townshend and Daltrey recently reunited to sing versions of classics Who Are You? and Won't Get Fooled Again at the Live 8 anti-poverty concert. .. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:53:20 -0700 "This problem is not simply the result of the law of supply and demand. Rather, the availability of tickets and the outrageously high -- and illegal -- prices that brokers charge, to a large extent, can be laid at the door of illicit practices in the ticket industry and other practices that, although possibly not unlawful, are deceptive, unfair to the ticket buying public and supportive of the corrupt ticket distribution system." http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/reports/scalping/exec_summary.html ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:55:04 -0400 Thus spake jcmartin@sonic.net... > http://kdka.com/consumer/local_story_154174957.html > > 2003 Lemon cars...... If you click on the link for Most Praised cars, the Forester appears on that list too. It looks like a lot of people have good experiences with the car and alot don't. You pays your money and you takes your chances. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:01:02 GMT brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake jcmartin@sonic.net... > >>http://kdka.com/consumer/local_story_154174957.html >> >>2003 Lemon cars...... > > > If you click on the link for Most Praised cars, the Forester appears on > that list too. > > It looks like a lot of people have good experiences with the car and > alot don't. > > You pays your money and you takes your chances. I agree. I'm not saying it's a vehicle not worth purchasing. The AWD is certainly a neat bonus. But Consumer Reports acts as if this is a flawless vehicle with no problems. That doesn't appear to be the case, and Subaru as yet to fully acknowledge certain design flaws. -JC ------------------------------ From: "rcb30" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:02:58 -0700 Yes -- I'm no lawyer, but since we're talking a lawsuit, being able to demonstrate some damage to himself may be the only way to go forward, and that'd mean being charged more than is legal for the tickets. (Gosh, no friends, relations, or colleagues around to pay face for the night's extra or unwanted tickets ... some of those season ticket owners must lead very lonely lives.) rcb ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Crossposted-To: alt.music.who Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:09:48 -0400 wrote in message news:1128099083.763707.221730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/entertainment/filmandtv/s/176/176161_mike_myers_to_play_keith_moon.html > > Thursday, 29th September 2005 > > Mike Myers to play Keith Moon > > > AUSTIN Powers star Mike Myers is to play the late Keith Moon in a film > about The Who's wild drummer. He is only about 20 years too old for the part. It should be about as memorable as Kevin Spacey playing Bobby Darin Scot ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:09:42 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > >DG wrote > >> Rogues Island's finest wrote: >>> >>>Rupert wrote: >>>> How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>> to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>> people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>> them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>> drugs"! >>> >>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>inflated price. >> >> >> It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >> for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >> and STFU. > >I think that he has a better case, having the letter in hand that asked him >to lie about where he bought them, rather than not having bought them He set them up to sue them. Great! #### ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:10:35 -0700 leftie wrote: > >Rupert wrote: > >> How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >> to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >> people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >> them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >> drugs"! > >No, it's more like the gasoline dealers in an area conspiraing to price >gouge. You can fill up your tank at the artificial and illegal prices, >decide to sue to right the wrong. But you don't have to siphon the >gasoline out of your tank before you do. Using an inappropriate analogy is a waste of everyone's time. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:11:17 -0700 DG wrote: > leftie wrote: > >>Rupert wrote: >> >> >>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>drugs"! >> >>No, it's more like the gasoline dealers in an area conspiraing to price >>gouge. You can fill up your tank at the artificial and illegal prices, >>decide to sue to right the wrong. But you don't have to siphon the >>gasoline out of your tank before you do. > > > > Using an inappropriate analogy is a waste of everyone's time. That's what I tried to tell Rupert. ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:14:20 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > >DG wrote > >> leftie wrote: >>> >>>DG wrote: >>> >>>> Rogues Island's finest wrote: >>>> >>>>>Rupert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>>>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>>>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>>>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>>>>drugs"! >>>>> >>>>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>>>inflated price. >>>> >>>> It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >>>> for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >>>> and STFU. >>> >>>Horseshit. Fuck the scalpers. Any way, every day. >> >> >> LOL... >> >> Down with free market econimics!############## > >It isn't free market economics, these ticket agencys are completely corrupt >and tied in with the promoters. So? >I can't speak to how it works in your part >of the world, but here in the Northeast a big show or ballgame sells out in >a matter of minutes and the ticket agents have them for sale well above face >value, sometimes BEFORE the show goes on sale. The real problem is that those shows/ballgames aren't priced appropriately in the first place. >They are scum, plain and simple, Nah... >They are screwing both the performers and the fans If you don't like the cost then don't buy the product. ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Crossposted-To: alt.music.who Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:14:54 -0700 True , but I doubt that anybody on the planet could do a good job emulating THE WHO. .. ------------------------------ From: tonewoods@rockisland.com Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:17:46 -0700 "Some would disagree but I'd also take the AUD of 6.30.73 over the rather flat SBD every time." I'm kinda out of the taping loop, so this might be a dumb question... Is anyone combining AUDs and SBDs in Protools to give the "rather flat" SBDs a little (or a lot) more life? I know Led Zep did this with "How the West Was Won", combining a bootleg audience recording with their sterile soundboards... I'm not all that much of a Zep fan, but that 3 CD live set from '72 or so is an amazing listen... ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Phil? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:20:56 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 30 Sep 2005 09:18:46 -0700, "DanPopp" wrote: >http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/30/DDG11DCFM21.DTL > >scroll down...hmmmm Now there's some solid proof of a rift! JimK ------------------------------ From: mahmut4@yahoo.com Subject: Ratdog @ Penn's Peak in Jim Thorpe?? Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:25:09 -0700 Hello Everybody, What is the word on this venue? Ratdog is playing 2 shows there in November. Is it the place on top of a mountain with a observation deck? Or am I thinking of another place? Are folks allowed to go on the deck during shows? Is it a cool venue to see a show? Are the staff/police hard on concert goers? I visited Jim Thorpe years ago...it was a cool little town back then...I have heard lots of positive things about this town since then... Just wondering if it is worth the trip from Phiadelphia...We were lucky to have enjoyed a summer show in our backyard at the beautiful yet frequently under utilized Mann Music Center...and we are sick of being treated rudely at the Electric Factory. Mahmut4@yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: DG Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:27:16 -0700 leftie wrote: > >DG wrote: > >> leftie wrote: >> >>>DG wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Rogues Island's finest wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Rupert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul >>>>>>to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these >>>>>>people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using >>>>>>them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me >>>>>>drugs"! >>>>> >>>>>Why shouldn't he use the tickets? He sure as hell paid for the damn >>>>>things, and he wouldn't have a case unless he bought 'em for the >>>>>inflated price. >>>> >>>>It's not like this guy didn't know the costs upfront. He's a scumbag >>>>for buying from them and then suing. Either don't buy and sue or buy >>>>and STFU. >>> >>>Horseshit. Fuck the scalpers. Any way, every day. >> >> LOL... >> >> Down with free market econimics!############## > >There is no free market when it comes to ticket scalping. The business >is corrupt from top to bottom. > >http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/reports/scalping/exec_summary.html We are talking about a luxury item. It's not like people need a show to survive. Wasting the court's time with this type of crap is horrible. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Phil? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:29:23 -0400 "Cozmik Charlie T" wrote in message news:kPWdnW4AKfPm96DeRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > > "DanPopp" wrote in message > news:1128097126.748351.188610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/30/DDG11DCFM21.DTL >> >> scroll down...hmmmm >> > > Phil hates Bobby. > > HTH I get the sense that the feeling is mutual Scot ------------------------------ From: "Me" Crossposted-To: alt.music.who,alt.music.beatles Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:35:35 -0700 Does Mike Myers suddenly turn into a good and credible actor when you're stoned?? greek_philosophi...@hotmail.com wrote: > True , > > but I doubt that anybody on the planet > could do a good job emulating THE WHO. > > . ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: (NDC) Bug Man goin' down? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:42:35 -0400 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:0Y6dnWMaSvaX5aHeRVn-vA@comcast.com... > > "John Doherty" wrote in message > news:jgnospamdoherty-C50066.12262229092005@comcast.dca.giganews.com... >> In article , >> "Richard Morris" wrote: >> >>> "John Doherty" wrote in message >>> news:jgnospamdoherty-0CDE89.15221128092005@comcast.dca.giganews.com... >>> > In article <1127927086.398443.253310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >>> > "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" wrote: >>> > >>> >> There'll be swinging, swaying and music playing >>> >> And dancing in the street >>> >> >>> >> Next........ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ....will it be Frist indictment over the "blind" trust insider stock >>> > sale? >>> > >>> > >>> > ...or maybe the rumored Rove indictment in October? >>> > >>> > I read recently that the GOP government corruption is likely >>> > unprecedented. Can you recall a similar scenario when the Dems (or any >>> > other party in history) controlled the Presidency, the Senate & House, >>> > and there were criminal investigations into all three branches (or >>> > their >>> > leaders, in the case of congress)? >>> >>> The Reagan and NIxon administrations. >> >> When during the Reagan & Nixon administrations did the GOP control the >> House & the Senate? > > Jeez, I dunno, John! I was just getting into the spirit of the question. > Reagan and Nixon had very corrupt administrations. The most honest administration of the last half of the 20th Century was also the most ineffectual. Politicians by the very definition are scum, and effective politicians are the scummiest. Jimmy Carter was scrupulously honest, but that is what hin ultimate down full was Pragmatism is what gets things done. Reagan, Nixon (and Clintion FTM) were all pragmatic men, which is why they were able to get their agendas through. It is the nature of the beast YMMV, Scot ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Crossposted-To: alt.music.who Subject: Re: Did Mike Myers ever do anything you could not watch stoned? Date: 30 Sep 2005 10:43:01 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > wrote in message > news:1128099083.763707.221730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/entertainment/filmandtv/s/176/176161_mike_myers_to_play_keith_moon.html > > > > Thursday, 29th September 2005 > > > > Mike Myers to play Keith Moon > > > > > > AUSTIN Powers star Mike Myers is to play the late Keith Moon in a film > > about The Who's wild drummer. > > He is only about 20 years too old for the part. It should be about as > memorable as Kevin Spacey playing Bobby Darin The best role ever played by Mike Myers was standing next to Kanye West on the Katrina telethon when he said "George Bush doesn't care about black people." The look on Myers face was priceless. 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