From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #455 Dead-Flames Digest #455, Volume #48 Fri, 30 Sep 05 08:00:01 PDT Contents: One man takes on the scalpers ("Rogues Island's finest") Widespread Panic lighting director found dead (ndc) ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: looking for friends in south east VA (bill.robinette@gmail.com) Re: looking for friends in south east VA (Gary & Ellie) Neil Young alert(NDC) (John Doherty) Looter guy meets mosh girl meets wookie (ndc) ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Republicans, look out below... ("volkfolk") Re: I like JGB better than GD ("volkfolk") Re: I like JGB better than GD ("volkfolk") Re: Janis on the dime ("Schmoe") Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: Republicans, look out below... (Ken Fortenberry) Re: 30 years ago today (william weaver) Re: Widespread Panic lighting director found dead (ndc) (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: No Direction Home ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: essential AUD recordings... (wyeknot) Re: No Direction Home ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: 30 years ago today ("Greg Sasso") Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Neil Young alert(NDC) (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: I like JGB better than GD ("minnehaha") Re: Up in Smoke [NDC] ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: I like JGB better than GD (brew ziggins) Re: We're Excited (NDC) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: One man takes on the scalpers ("Rupert") Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: One man takes on the scalpers Date: 30 Sep 2005 06:39:10 -0700 David Kurzman, I salute you. Get the bastards. Scalping suit hits 16 ticket resellers Court action involves law largely ignored by Bay State officials By Bruce Mohl, Globe Staff | September 29, 2005 At least 16 companies are gouging Massachusetts consumers by reselling tickets to concerts and sporting events in violation of the state's antiscalping law, according to a lawsuit filed in Suffolk Superior Court. Article Tools Printer friendly E-mail to a friend Business RSS feed Available RSS feeds Most e-mailed Reprints/permissions More: Business section | Latest business news | Globe front page | Boston.com Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts The suit alleges that licensed ticket agents routinely violate the state law, which bars the resale of tickets for more than $2 above face value plus any legitimate service charges. David Kurzman of Sharon, the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit, which is seeking class-action status, said he purchased two Red Sox tickets to this Saturday's game against the New York Yankees for $375 apiece from Ace Ticket Worldwide, a $335 markup over the face value of $40. David G. Thomas, Kurzman's attorney, said Ace clearly violated the anti-scalping law. He noted Ace, which has offices in Boston and Brookline, charged Kurzman a separate $37.50 handling fee and a $17.50 shipping fee for the two tickets. According to the lawsuit, Ace also included a note with the tickets telling Kurzman to lie about where he obtained the tickets if someone asks. ''Your tickets are part of a season ticket holder's package," the note said. ''If you are asked where the tickets came from, please say they were a gift or that someone gave them to you." The legal action is seeking to recoup alleged improper mark-ups for tickets as well as attorneys' fees. The Red Sox have threatened to revoke the season tickets of customers caught reselling their tickets. The New England Patriots have a similar policy. Officials at Ace Ticket declined to comment yesterday. Kurzman also declined to comment. A consultant to the lawsuit said Kurzman is planning to use the tickets to go to the game Saturday. The lawsuit is basically a private sector attempt to enforce a law that has been ignored by state officials. The Massachusetts Public Safety Office, which licenses ticket resellers in Massachusetts, said it has never disciplined a company for overcharging for its tickets. Katy Ford, a spokeswoman for the office, previously described the antiscalping law as a ''mess" and added that ''no one is complying with the letter of the law." Ford said yesterday that Commissioner Thomas G. Gatzunis plans next month to gather all parties with an interest in the law to discuss whether it needs to be redrafted or even discarded. Ace and many other ticket resellers say on their websites that their prices are high because they pay a lot to buy tickets from season ticket holders. But the suit points to a 1988 court decision that bars ticket resellers from including the cost of buying a ticket in their cost of doing business. ''If the licensee's service charge could include the gouging by his vendor, the public would be no more protected than if the licensee himself had inflated the price," said the appeals court decision. The Globe reported in July that Colman Herman, a Dorchester resident who previously initiated a number of lawsuits to enforce the state's item pricing law, was exploring a suit against Admit One Ticket Agency in Weymouth for violations of the antiscalping law. Herman said he is now working as a paid consultant to Thomas's law firm, Gilman and Pastor, on the ticket case. Most of the named defendants in the ticket lawsuit are based in Massachusetts, including Admit One; McTicket Agency of Westwood; Out of Town Ticket Agency in Cambridge; Tickets One in Norwood; Lytle Ticket in Chelmsford; Pat's Ticket Center in Waltham; Quincy Ticket Center in Quincy; South Shore Ticket Agency in Marshfield; and SoxTix.com in Abington. In Boston, the named defendants include Ace, Best for Less Ticket Agency, Best Tickets, North End Ticket Agency, and Ringside Ticket Agency. Two out-of-state resellers were included: StubHub.com of San Francisco, which has a ticket fulfillment center near Fenway Park, and Seacoast Ticket Agency in Portsmouth, N.H. Bruce Mohl can be reached at mohl@globe.com. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Widespread Panic lighting director found dead (ndc) Date: 30 Sep 2005 06:42:01 -0700 Damn shame. http://tinyurl.com/ahqbe Mark ------------------------------ From: bill.robinette@gmail.com Subject: Re: looking for friends in south east VA Date: 30 Sep 2005 06:45:01 -0700 Where in SE VA? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:54:22 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: looking for friends in south east VA bill.robinette@gmail.com wrote: > Where in SE VA? > S of NoVA and N of E NC ------------------------------ From: John Doherty Subject: Neil Young alert(NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:55:05 -0400 Hey Neil fans-- Shakey is the interview subject on today's Fresh Air on NPR. Check your local listings, and if you miss it, later, you can check npr.org for the online version what a great week for public broadcasting- 3.5 hours on Dylan on TV, with an hour of Neil as a chaser on the radio. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Looter guy meets mosh girl meets wookie (ndc) Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:05:30 -0700 This is tasteless but too good not to share. http://terrapin.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=260529 Mark ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Republicans, look out below... Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:06:28 -0400 "Cassady Ginsberg" wrote in message news:dhiq14$30hr$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > }http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050930/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak_investigation;_ylt=AhQdFc.AQJj4DvXHCuQjmbus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ-- > > Scooter Libby revealed the name of a covert > intelligence agent for political gain? The vice > president knew and lied about it? > > Karl Rove revealed the name of a covert intelligence > agent for political gain? The president knew and lied > about it? > > I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you. > Round up the usual suspects. > > So, how does this compare to an extramarital blowjob, > rwnwdhs? It merely proves that ALL politicians are scumbags HTH. Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: I like JGB better than GD Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:11:22 -0400 "Seth Jackson" wrote in message news:8plpj11ip71l09ljreruj6n07skuc7g84q@4ax.com... > On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:02 -0700, "staffino" > wrote: > >>1. No Bob Weir singing. >>2. No Bob Weir songs. >>3. Bob Weir isn't within 50 miles of the place. >>4. Did I mention no Bob Weir singing?---staffino You forgot to mention horrible, atonal bass solos ruining perfectly good versions of "Simple Twist of Fate" > You've just named 4 big reasons why I prefer the Grateful Dead. Not > to mention Weir's guitar playing (excluding slide). Bob is a WAY underated guitar player Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: I like JGB better than GD Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:13:39 -0400 "brew ziggins" wrote in message news:MPG.1da7068d87afda1c9897fa@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Thus spake swmclaughlin@NOSPAMcomcast.net... >> 1. No Bob Weir singing. >> 2. No Bob Weir songs. >> 3. Bob Weir isn't within 50 miles of the place. >> 4. Did I mention no Bob Weir singing?---staffino > > I agree with all of this, yet the JGB puts me right to sleep. Jerry > needed Bobby to keep the tempos above flatline. Darn, I guess that sampler of the 10 greatest "Loat Sailor/St of Circumstance" that I made for you is going to waste then......... Scot ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Janis on the dime Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:13:26 -0400 "The Lord of Eltingville" wrote in message news:dhj5at0m6c@news2.newsguy.com... > Hop on this one. W/377 seeds, it's flying right now (my d/l sped is > averaging 800kB/s) > > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=61847 > I just picked up the whole torrent in about 20 minutes but there does appear to be any leachers. Do you show leachers at the moment? ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:16:17 -0700 polasus@my-deja.com wrote: > The answer to that is no. I've seen Ratdog on several occasions in > several venues and have never failed to have an enjoyable time and a > worthwhile musical experience. > > It is a different experience from seeing the Grateful Dead or the Dead > or PLQ in its various incarnations, but that is the idea, isn't it? > > I for one love the idea that Bob and the boys are out there keeping the > flame burning and I would be bummed if I couldn't see someone > performing Jerry's songs live now that he isn't here to do it himself. > The evil that Jerry did with the Persian lives long after him on this > board, why should the good be interred with his bones, or dumped in the > Ganges with his ashes or whatever. > > A day is coming where you won't be able to drive 9 hours or 90 hours > and still see Dead tunes perfomed by original band members. Then you'll > wish you hadn't ragged on Bob so much, or given Phil shit for spending > time with his family -- although I'm happy he's back on the road as > well. Indubitably! .. ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: Republicans, look out below... Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:18:38 GMT volkfolk wrote: > "Cassady Ginsberg" wrote: >>Scooter Libby revealed the name of a covert >>intelligence agent for political gain? The vice >>president knew and lied about it? >> >>Karl Rove revealed the name of a covert intelligence >>agent for political gain? The president knew and lied >>about it? >> >>I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you. >>Round up the usual suspects. >> >>So, how does this compare to an extramarital blowjob, >>rwnwdhs? > > > It merely proves that ALL politicians are scumbags > > HTH. No, that kind of cynicism doesn't help at all. There are good, decent, honorable men and women on both sides of the aisle. A "they're all scumbags" attitude, besides being demonstrably wrong, is a shirking of your responsibility to be an informed citizen and an educated voter. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: ttotto@webtv.net (william weaver) Subject: Re: 30 years ago today Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:18:59 -0700 the dead closed ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Widespread Panic lighting director found dead (ndc) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:03:42 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > Damn shame. > > http://tinyurl.com/ahqbe Hopefully the driver that struck him will develop a conscience and turn him/herself in so that his family and friends don't have to spend the rest of their lives wondering what happened. A damned shame, indeed. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:28:30 -0700 "brew ziggins" wrote in message news:MPG.1da616af741597269897f6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Thus spake dylanstubs@gmail.com... >> > brew ziggins wrote: >> >> > Neither the Beatles nor Dylan have done anything interesting since >> > 1966, >> > with the possible exception of 'Blood on the Tracks'. Oh, and the >> > 'Penny >> > Lane'/'Strawberry Fields' single. >> >> Are we speaking of studio work only? Oh Mercy, Time Out of Mind, and >> Love and Theft were all great albums. > A lot of people think so, I must've been born without the Dylan gene. I > really can't tolerate his recent work. (Pssst...he can't fucking SING. > Somehow he was able to pull it off in the early years, but lately...) Who cares about singing? Unless you're Roy Orbison, snarling is what its all about. No one snarls like Dylan. I like the voice more than the songs. Just listen the the Traveling Wilburys Volume Three and tell me that yellow gunk in the drainpipe song doesn't have the best snarl ever. EGBH ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:27:52 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > brew ziggins wrote: >>This post has WAY too much meaningful and well-considered Grateful Dead >>content. You must be new around here. > > Well, he could play these fine auds in his Subaru while driving to an > anti war protest. Troll! Matt ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: No Direction Home Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:29:11 -0700 "Brad Greer" wrote in message news:9jkoj116qka42jsnu6kgckvnbnhq1mh4ap@4ax.com... > On 29 Sep 2005 12:05:54 -0700, "Deke_Rivers" > wrote: > >>>Maybe in the "rock" genre, but there are many others who will survive >>>>just as well(Johnny Mercer, Hank Williams, Gershwin, Johnny Cash, Chuck >>>>Berry, etc.) >>>>Pierre >> >>>Chuck Berry isn't part of the "rock" genre? >> >>Of course he is...my mistake. So is Johnny Cash to an extent, his Sun >>recordings have a heavy dose of rockabilly. > Nah, I'll let Johnny Cash pass, most people don't think of him as > being part of rock. But Chuck Berry, he defined Rock 'n Roll. > > But overall, I agree with your post - people who listen to rock music > tend to forget their are other genres out there that are just as > likely to endure. For example, if we're going to talk about 20th > century composers I'm pretty sure Igor Stravinsky will be remembered > for a while. Who? EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:30:05 -0700 "JimK" wrote in message news:odbpj1pv5278na3ve8pna498pm07d51oft@4ax.com... > On 29 Sep 2005 13:42:02 -0700, "king88uy7" > wrote: > >>JimK >>>So then you believe that even if Delay is guilty he should go free >>>because Clinton beat the impeachment rap? >> >>Ya'll don't do much homework before you post here, these are only like >>three posts away from yours. >> >>king88uy7 >>>I don't think DeLay should get away with anything, I'm glad he got >>>indicted. >> >>king88uy7 >>>But, yeah, Delay sucks. > > I know what you said, but why bring Clinton into it at all unless > you're attempting to somehow justify or excuse Delay's conduct by > comparing it to Clinton's? I couldn't care less about Tom Delay. I'm still fuminhg over Warren Harding and Teapot Dome. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:35:15 -0700 "Ray" wrote in message news:1128035229.656126.287420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Chunk wrote: >> "leftie" wrote in message >> news:dhetk1$1rtf$1@agate.berkeley.edu... >> > Tom DeLay has finally gone from unidicted co-conspirator to indicted >> > conspirator! Plus, he's resigned the Speaker of the House position! >> > >> > Woohoo! Send that motherfucker to jail where he belongs!!!! >> > >> > But let's get him out of congress completely first. >> > >> > http://action.ourfuture.org >> > >> > >> > >> > "ding dong, the witch is dead...." >> >> Is this the same DA Ronnie Earle that went that tried to go after Kay >> Baily >> Hutchinson when she ran for Senate and had his baseless case thrown out? >> Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the forged memos? Don't get >> your hopes up. > "Is this the same... Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the > forged memos?" > > ?!? > > LOL - I think you may have outdone yourself in the ridiculous > mud-slinging dept. this time around, Chunk. And given your lengthy > record of ridiculous mud-slinging here on rmgd that's no small > accomplishment. > > Congrats, and keep up the, um, amusing work. > > Ray Don't forget that Travis County is in Texas, the state that gave us Bush and Delay. Obviously all Texas politicos from county DA's to congressmen to presidents are all lying scum. Therefore Delay is obviously guilty. Which he is, BTW. The problem is so is every other politician in Washington. Its illegal for corporate contributions to be spent on Texas state races. The only reason Delay has this PAC is to funnel corporate money to state races. Everyone knows this. Everyone in Texas DOES this. Delay is the majority leader because he does this more and better than anyone else. He should have been charged and he should be found guilty. Duh. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Greg Sasso" Subject: Re: 30 years ago today Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:36:06 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > I think I check in here every now and then to > get other perspectives from generations older than mine. > > Sweetbac Productions That's one of the main reasons I check in here. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: DeLay Indicted! (ndc) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:37:09 -0700 "Chunk" wrote in message news:SM9%e.10$ES.8@fe07.lga... > > "Ray" wrote in message > news:1128035229.656126.287420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >> Chunk wrote: >>> "leftie" wrote in message >>> news:dhetk1$1rtf$1@agate.berkeley.edu... >>> > Tom DeLay has finally gone from unidicted co-conspirator to indicted >>> > conspirator! Plus, he's resigned the Speaker of the House position! >>> > >>> > Woohoo! Send that motherfucker to jail where he belongs!!!! >>> > >>> > But let's get him out of congress completely first. >>> > >>> > http://action.ourfuture.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "ding dong, the witch is dead...." >>> >>> Is this the same DA Ronnie Earle that went that tried to go after Kay >>> Baily >>> Hutchinson when she ran for Senate and had his baseless case thrown out? >>> Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the forged memos? Don't get >>> your hopes up. >> >> "Is this the same... Travis County, the home of Bill Burkitt and the >> forged memos?" >> >> ?!? >> >> LOL - I think you may have outdone yourself in the ridiculous >> mud-slinging dept. this time around, Chunk. And given your lengthy >> record of ridiculous mud-slinging here on rmgd that's no small >> accomplishment. >> >> Congrats, and keep up the, um, amusing work. >> >> Ray >> > > If you want amusement, read the indictment. It wouldn't take long as it > is pretty thin. This Earle guy is hanging out at Dem fundraiser calling > Delay "Moussolini" and talking about bring him down. Come the fuck on. I > am no fan of Delay, the medicare drug entitlement vote really pissed me > off, but I doubt this Earle guy can prove any conspiracy even if he is > guilty. They couldn't prove Barney Frank knew about the prostitution ring > being run out of his house. So good luck. Having Delay step down for is > short time is the only victory Earle will have with this. All they need is a single e-mail in which Dealy demonstrates knowledge that his PAC did what he created it to do; funnel corporate money to state races. Everyone knows it did, all that's required is evidence Delay knew. Which he did, since he set up the PAC. spent most of his time soliciting money for it, then decided which candidates got how much................. EGBH ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Neil Young alert(NDC) Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:37:20 -0700 John Doherty wrote: > Hey Neil fans-- Shakey is the interview subject on today's Fresh Air on > NPR. He was on Weekend Edition last Saturday, too. Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "minnehaha" Subject: Re: I like JGB better than GD Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:38:21 -0400 "volkfolk" wrote in message news:LcCdnfueqs3k2qDeRVn-3Q@comcast.com... > > "Seth Jackson" wrote in message > news:8plpj11ip71l09ljreruj6n07skuc7g84q@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:40:02 -0700, "staffino" >> wrote: >> >>>1. No Bob Weir singing. >>>2. No Bob Weir songs. >>>3. Bob Weir isn't within 50 miles of the place. >>>4. Did I mention no Bob Weir singing?---staffino > > You forgot to mention horrible, atonal bass solos ruining perfectly good > versions of "Simple Twist of Fate" Yeah, or ANY time he "soloed" for that matter. I wonder if Jerry actually thought Kahn's solos sounded good. >> You've just named 4 big reasons why I prefer the Grateful Dead. Not >> to mention Weir's guitar playing (excluding slide). > > Bob is a WAY underated guitar player Absolutely. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Up in Smoke [NDC] Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:38:54 -0700 "Steve S" wrote in message news:Xns96E0B02A612B7sstevesvisioncadcom@216.196.97.131... > I'm sure one of these days some poor sap caught with a few grams of > Mexican > schwag will be charged with possesion of a ton of pot cause the pot that > was seized contained 100 seeds which could in turn produce endless amounts > of bud. If an embryo can be defined as a person, a seed can be defined as a million dollar plant! EGBH ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: I like JGB better than GD Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:39:53 -0400 Thus spake volkfolk@comcast.net... > > "brew ziggins" wrote in message > news:MPG.1da7068d87afda1c9897fa@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > > Thus spake swmclaughlin@NOSPAMcomcast.net... > >> 1. No Bob Weir singing. > >> 2. No Bob Weir songs. > >> 3. Bob Weir isn't within 50 miles of the place. > >> 4. Did I mention no Bob Weir singing?---staffino > > > > I agree with all of this, yet the JGB puts me right to sleep. Jerry > > needed Bobby to keep the tempos above flatline. > > Darn, I guess that sampler of the 10 greatest "Loat Sailor/St of > Circumstance" that I made for you is going to waste then......... No, that's fine, we just got a new coffee table and need some coasters. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: We're Excited (NDC) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:40:13 -0700 "JC Martin" wrote in message news:HI1%e.757$Aw.12296@typhoon.sonic.net... > brew ziggins wrote: >> Thus spake Davko58@crestviewcable.com... >> >>>"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message >>>news:xBV_e.902$056.69@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... >>> >>>>pookietooth wrote: >>>> >>>>>brew ziggins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Subaru is easily the #1 car here in the PRoI, what with the snow and >>>>>>the >>>>>>hills and the four-wheel drive, and I've never heard anybody say a bad >>>>>>thing about them. >>>>> >>>>>Lifters used to have a chronic problem, with no solution except a new >>>>>engine (which would eventually have the same problem). Not sure if >>>>>that's still the case. >>> >>>>I've never heard a discouraging word about the Subaru Forester. >>>>There were some Subaru Outbacks that had American made automatic >>>>transmissions instead of Japanese transmissions that generated >>>>some problems a few years back, but other than that I've not >>>>heard anything bad about Subarus. >>>> >>>>Subaru is also the #1 car by far here in Champaign-Urbana, IL. >>>>We have no hills, but being a University town we do have a lot >>>>of Birkenstock wearing, economy conscious, low paid, ex-hippy >>>>types who used to drive Volvos. ;-) >>> >>>Surprisingly, out here in redneck cowboy country, and especially in my >>>neighborhood of retired loggers, loaders, saw filers, construction >>>workers, fishermen, farmers, and ranchers, Suburus are everywhere. >>> >>>25% of these people are driving 4X4 Suburus. We have weather here, snow, >>>cold, sun, heat. We have mountains, huge stretches of nothing but hills, >>>valleys and cows, and forests galore. Lots and lots of dirt roads. Most >>>people think nothing of driving miles and miles on dirt roads to cut >>>their firewood, Christmas trees, to hunt deer, birds, and elk. They >>>think nothing of driving miles and miles on dirt roads to get to that >>>special fishing spot. They tow utility trailers, small heavy equipment, >>>boats, and travel trailers. >>> >>>And they drive these 4X4 Suburus. They must be sturdy and last a while, >>>these aren't rich yuppies buying a new rig every other year. These >>>vehicles get a workout here. They can't be all that terrible. >> >> >> Yeah, I think Subarus thrive in tough climates. They must get bored >> touring around the Bay Area with their pampered drivers and eventually >> throw a gasket just to put themselves out of their misery. > > You guys, the complaints I'm reading are from all over the country. > Sheesh! Do a Google. All I have to do is look out my window. Seen two this am already. Old ones. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: One man takes on the scalpers Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:40:48 -0700 How can this guy try to sue the ticket agents, but then have the gaul to go out and USE the tickets? If he's doing business with these people, then he's part of the problem. It's like buying drugs, using them up, and then calling the cops on the dealers, saying "he sold me drugs"! ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: anyone else find ratdog painful to see in concert? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:42:26 -0700 wrote in message news:1128038732.155187.102940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > okay, so maybe I shouldnt have eaten the mushrooms......but heading > into the 8/9 show in maryland I was as psyched to see a band as I have > ever been, but 2 songs in, I knew it was a mistake to have driven 9 > hours...... No, I've seen them several times and every one was great. Love Bob doing the Jerry songs too. EGBH ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .