From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #435 Dead-Flames Digest #435, Volume #48 Wed, 28 Sep 05 16:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("Ray") Re: RIP Craig Potter ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("king88uy7") Re: all the insults for fat people (ANIM8Rfsk) Re: New Riders next week! ("Gabe Grall") Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Todays Lunch. (leftie) Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. (leftie) Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("Ray") Re: essential AUD recordings... ("Steve Terry") Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable ("volkfolk") Re: essential AUD recordings... ("uNjoyMiceElf") Re: etree down... (Gary & Ellie) Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable ("Steve Terry") Re: all the insults for fat people (Taylor) Re: Todays Lunch. ("Dave Kelly") Re: ndc-longest you have gone without a shower? ("The Iron Muffin") Re: SF Nightclub Burns Down, Arson... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Yesterd'ys Profit, Tomorah's Refund ("Sean Baker") Re: Todays Lunch. (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 ("The Iron Muffin") Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 ("The Iron Muffin") Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 ("The Iron Muffin") Re: essential AUD recordings... ("LP") Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Download Series Vol. 6 ("Olompali4") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 28 Sep 2005 14:49:24 -0700 king88uy7 wrote: > Ray > >2) Do you believe in personal responsibility, king88uy7? Or do > >believe, as PV's rhetoric suggests that he does, that the negative > >actions of others somehow excuses similar actions? > > I do, I do ! But I also believe in absurdity, and I think pv34pv3p did > a good job illustrating how it's absurd to post partisan propaganda. PV's been posting grossly-distorted partisan propaganda here repeatedly, and yet he refuses to acknowledge doing as much even once. If he really thinks that doing is so 'absurd' then he should practice what in your mind he preaches. > >You are way overgeneralizing here, king88uy7. What any one poster on > >this board does and does not do cannot be generalized into "the > >difference between the liberals and conservatives on this board." > > I get it. I was posting a general observation and included an example. > I wasn't meaning to imply that I listed all instances where I observed > the difference. If you really think that your example is demonstrative of the general "difference between the liberals and conservatives on this board" then you either aren't paying attention or your ideological goggles are on so tight that they are warping your vision. For example PV is still running away from my simple question about whether he even believes the stuff that he posted here - proof that conservatives can be just as chicken-shit about actually engaging in honest discussion as non-conservatives can be. Ray ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: RIP Craig Potter Date: 28 Sep 2005 14:49:43 -0700 ------------------------------ From: "king88uy7" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 28 Sep 2005 14:49:46 -0700 Joe >NO. We don't have to accept that. We can't except that. Strange. It's tough to make the correct decision when you don't live in the real world. Pretending it won't be worse for the Iraqui people if we leave isn't that compelling for me, so I guess I'll miss the protest. I guess you still don't have an opinion on what will happen to the Iraqui people if we remove all our troops tomorrow. Maybe you don't care ? Enough talking point propaganda bullshit. Think for yourself. Or don't. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: all the insults for fat people From: ANIM8Rfsk Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv,rec.food.cooking Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:50:46 -0700 in article 433b08b4$0$50380$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net, legalprocess at legalprocess@sprynet.com wrote on 9/28/05 2:16 PM: > "alejandro de tacobell" wrote in message > news:1127939475.173895.231000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> fatso >> fatty >> fatass >> jellybelly >> beerbelly > > tacobelly? > ;-P > > Okay, now THAT'S funny! -- You Can't Stop the Signal ------------------------------ From: "Gabe Grall" Subject: Re: New Riders next week! Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:53:11 GMT Panama Red is back in Town ! Everybody's getting down........ ahhh the memories...... "Mizshely" wrote in message news:1127943417.230780.244610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Well, at least these guys (Nelson and Cage) were actually in the band > when it was a viable, productive unit. And David was there from the > beginning (or as he says, before time began). While I have issues with > McDuke not being there, nobody knows better than *I* do why he isn't, > since I spent this past spring ferrying him around and I know how ill > he truly is. But this project has John's blessing. > > As for those other Poser Riders, they do not have John's blessing and > hvae no right to use the name. Shame on you, Rusty and Gary! > Michelle > Once and Always President of Marmaduke's Marauders (don't ask) > ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Run For The Roses - Shoreline Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:00:31 -0400 JC Martin wrote: > volkfolk wrote: > > marklaw wrote: > > > You would be more wrong. Run for the Roses > > > and Midnight Moonlight sound nothing alike. > > > > True, but harmonically they are very similar. They > > certainly have more in common with each other > > than either one has with TOG > > HRYK. Indeed. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:53:32 GMT DG wrote: > Ken Fortenberry wrote: >>You're sittin' in front of a computer in Arkansas panhandling >>for handouts in a Usenet newsgroup. Meanwhile the American >>Red Cross is housing over 300,000 people in temporary shelters >>and hotel/motels. Guess where my dollar is going. > > I'd rather send a buck to a human than some beauracracy whose CEO > makes $450,000 per year. If you ever have an accident and need a blood transfusion who ya gonna call ? That's right the American Red Cross. And you can rest easy knowing that the transfusion won't give you HIV. The American Red Cross is a huge organization, they are not perfect, but according to every charity source I've ever seen their administrative overhead is among the lowest. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Todays Lunch. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:57:50 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > Went down to the Car Wash Taco jernt on Bayshore Blvd. > 2 Al Pastor tacos with fresh cilantro/salsa/onions > $4.10 > The meat was grilled marinated pork that had a smokey/ > sweet/spicy quality...2 fresh corn tortillas...let me say that > again in case you missed it.....FRESH corn tortillas....brilliant. > Fresh tortilla chips on the side. > Drove to Golden Gate Park and watched the weekend free > bluegrass festival folks set up the stage as I feasted and washed > it down with a couple frosty Newcastle Ales. > The main stage in speedway meadows is huge. > There are 2 smaller stages being set up in Lindley & Marx Meadows. > Beautiful indian summer day....the sky is a deep blue... > Lets hope the weather will hold out all weekend. Yeah right. > Anyhows, Peep REAL game: > http://www.burritoeater.com/restaurant.php?taqueria_id=13 Yo, Sweet Tits: Get a job! ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Hurricane Benefit show tomorrow (NYC) Katrina Survivor Replies. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:07:19 -0700 Hey music fans, help a NOLA musician get back on their feet: http://www.tipsevents.com/foundation/default.asp http://musicmaker.org/ http://www.katrinaspianofund.org/ ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 28 Sep 2005 15:16:57 -0700 DGDevin wrote: > I suggested assigning crowd marshalls to follow the guys in black with the > backbacks full of ballistic objects, the marshalls have video cameras and > cellphones, when they see someone winging lug-nuts at the cops or smashing a > window or chaining together newspaper vending boxes to block a street, they > shoot video and call the police. This is not without risk, the anarchist > types are clearly more than willing to see blood spilled, so you'd need some > big, ugly crowd marshalls to handle this. But in many cases I suspect just > contronting the violence-vampires would be enough, if the bandanas were > yanked from their faces and they realized they were surrounded by people who > weren't going to tolerate their bullshit I bet many of them would go home to > brood and plot rather than risk being identified and locked up. Yeah, although you'd need a large number of Hells' Angels-type crowd marshalls to be there before you want to start yanking bandanas - otherwise that would be a foolhardy action at best. And so realistically I don't see yanking bandanas as a viable option. Video taping and the like is another story, although that too would carry significant risks. > Beyond that the non-violent organizers need to be more forceful in > condemning the violent factions and in cooperating with the authorities to > help see the trouble-makers behind bars, and that's not something I see > happening, the "us vs. them" mentality is too entrenched in the anti-war > movement, the idea of helping the cops just wouldn't digest too well. I think it has more to do with fear of the protest movement splintering into even less power than they have now, although again I consider putting that concern over distancing from the fascists to be the wrong call - and possibly a fatal one. > How > many people here, finding themselves marching beside someone wearing a mask, > would ask that person why they need to conceal their identity, much less > stop that person from smashing a shop window? I think that rarely (if ever) happens because the risk/reward ratio is too low: for individuals to initiate such activity there is high risk of getting hurt and very low chance for making any difference. Most people know that the 'violence-vampires' won't listen to reason on the issue, esp. during a protest. > Let's not kid ourselves, a > lot of the people marching are actually sympathetic to the idea of a > Starbucks being trashed or even an Army recruiting office being burned. I believe that, at the large rallies anyway, only a very small percentage of the protestors want or are even sympathetic to such activities. I believe that most protestors are instead against such actions. > I watched this several decades ago up close and I'm seeing it again today, > "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," it was bullshit then and its bullshit > now. But it won't change, as Ray points out, the non-violent groups are too > afraid of splitting the movement and I believe of losing their progressive > cred, so they won't lift a finger when the Stalinist/fascist/anarchist > mobsters show up, masked, packs full of wrenches and frozen cans of soda, > and afterwards when the city is cleaning up the mess the whole damn movement > looks like a bunch of apes and the clowns in the Whitehouse get to smile and > go on with fucking up something else, just lovely. I don't believe that fear of losing progressive cred is a major motivator here, but otherwise agreed. It's disgustingly ironic that when anti-Bush protests start getting violent and windows get smashed and the like that it helps the Bush Whitehouse keep doing what they are doing. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:19:20 -0500 wrote in message news:1127943987.693238.309710@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > can anyone point me to stellar > GD aud recordings on archive.org? > something that will make me rethink > my preference for soundboards... 6/17/75 and 8/6/71 for starters: http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=13139 http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=14856 ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:25:14 -0400 wrote in message news:1127937522.952968.92060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > volkfolk wrote: >> (Associated Press-Washington DC) >> >> White House sources revealed today that during a recent cabinet meeting >> Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld reported that three Brazilian >> soldiers >> were killed in Iraq yesterday. According to the source, President Bush >> was >> inconsolable, and reduced to tears by this news. The only question that >> he >> was able to ask through his tears was "Don, how many is a Brazilian?" > > I have read the exact same joke as a "blond" joke. > > Kurt > Most Blondes that I know are smarter than Bush. Scot ------------------------------ From: "uNjoyMiceElf" Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: 28 Sep 2005 15:26:42 -0700 Steve Terry wrote: > 8/6/71 for starters: word ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:27:03 -0400 From: Gary & Ellie Reply-To: gary.and.ellie@gmail.com Subject: Re: etree down... DG wrote: > Gary & Ellie wrote: > >>DG wrote: >> >>>Gary & Ellie wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Josh wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"DG" wrote in message >>>>>news:9dflj1hqb6shm5d5eqql1nojqaakkhtevd@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Anyone know why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>It's working now... 12:25 PM EDT. >>>>> >>>>>-Josh >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I'll bet that 15 minutes it was down was very painful. Come back in off >>>>the ledge. >>> >>> >>> >>>Well dipshit, when you have a few torrents going and the tracker is >>>down, there are issues. >> >> >>And lots of them, apparently. > > > > Do you even know what a torrent is? > > Yes. Is there something I can help you with? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:29:17 -0500 "Dave Kelly" wrote in message news:oFB_e.920$lc1.375@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > "Steve Lenier" wrote in message > news:BF5F7C8B.319C2%slenier@comcast.net... > >> I liked it :) Teri thought it was weak. >> >> Steve > > Steve > What is teri wearing right about now? > ...and just so we're on the same page..uh...Teri > is a chick, right?....I DONT wanna know what steve teri > has on! Well, since ya asked, I'm wearin' my stinky Tevas. ------------------------------ From: Taylor Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv,rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: all the insults for fat people Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:17:34 -0400 alejandro de tacobell wrote: > fatso > fatty > fatass > jellybelly > beerbelly > 'Family Guy' lardass Seth ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Todays Lunch. Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:31:20 GMT "leftie" wrote in message news:dhf3ku$1trj$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > Yo, Sweet Tits: Get a job! * Yo Left-Nut! That dick you had for lunch didn't hit the spot? Sorry bout that, Baby! Anyone else? Marinated Sweetbac ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: ndc-longest you have gone without a shower? Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:39:29 -0400 Tom Beck wrote: > Dave Kelly wrote: > > Tom Beck wrote: > > > I don't give a shit what you think. > > > I'm not part of your life and you > > > don't know me or the cops of Rexburg > > > so you ought not make vulgar comments > > > as you have done. Besa mi culo! > > > > * Listen junior, I have a mind to jump thru this screen and teach > > you some manners!...you HEAR me?....your sordid escapades > > with rogue law enforcement officers has NO room on a > > family chat group!.....take it elsewhere, Bubbles! > > *I'm* the one who made offensive > comments to you? Somehow I think > not. This is a family chat group? > Since when? And I need no lessons > in manners from you. You're welcome > to try though. ....and yet even still ANOTHER ship of fools lies in ruins upon the rocky shores of Sweetbac. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: SF Nightclub Burns Down, Arson... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:42:46 -0400 Joe wrote: > That said...that last hour in there was uncomfortable. I got banged into > about once a minute, mainly by fat drunk boys. .... Too easy. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: Yesterd'ys Profit, Tomorah's Refund Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:37:25 -0500 "Dave Kelly" wrote in message news:m7E_e.7453$6e1.5147@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > Went down to the Car Wash Taco jernt on Bayshore Blvd. > 2 Al Pastor tacos with fresh cilantro/salsa/onions > $4.10 > The meat was grilled marinated pork that had a smokey/ > sweet/spicy quality...2 fresh corn tortillas...let me say that > again in case you missed it.....FRESH corn tortillas....brilliant. > Fresh tortilla chips on the side. > Drove to Golden Gate Park and watched the weekend free > bluegrass festival folks set up the stage as I feasted and washed > it down with a couple frosty Newcastle Ales. > The main stage in speedway meadows is huge. > There are 2 smaller stages being set up in Lindley & Marx Meadows. > Beautiful indian summer day....the sky is a deep blue... > Lets hope the weather will hold out all weekend. Yeah right. > Anyhows, Peep REAL game: > http://www.burritoeater.com/restaurant.php?taqueria_id=13 > Livin' it up offa that $24.95 we sentcha eh? Where's my refund Mr. Sweetilla? We mailed the El Gigante back over 4 weeks ago!! Nice to know somebodys benefitin' in THIS economy. Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Todays Lunch. Date: 28 Sep 2005 15:39:51 -0700 That's my stomping grounds. I report to work about two blocks from there. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:49:12 -0400 Dave Kelly wrote: > Muff > Did you smoke out Senor Boo-Boo? We wuz *both* stoney-eyed before I left... -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:50:01 -0400 Spider Dawg wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > So on Thursday morning I get up at 5am, attend to my personal > > hygeine, put some clothes on, and go over to her house to pick > > up the manuscript. She is already awake, having recently adopted > > a shelter dog (cute lil thing, very friendly and well-behaved). > > So..... what's the dog like? Heh. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:51:41 -0400 band beyond description wrote: > dearmeyer® wrote: > > Are ya near Winona? > > Ryder? Not yet, but someday she will be mine. Oh yes...she WILL be mine. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "LP" Subject: Re: essential AUD recordings... Date: 28 Sep 2005 15:48:40 -0700 11/2/85 Listen to that Morning Dew!!! http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=11681 ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:56:43 -0400 ba ba booie wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > I decided not to take the > muffin mobile into the city. > Muffin man, you have some lights out in your rear. > I saw it as you were in front of me. The rear of your > car that is. I think it was the drivers side. That is a > guaranteed pull over!!! > Try to get that fixed. Driver's side taillight, check. > It was good to see ya to. Thanks, man. > Did you hit any traffic on the was home? That was > a clean run I took you through. It was clear the whole way up. It took longer than I was expecting (4 hours total), but that was fine with me as long as I didn't have to fight all those insane dipshits on I-95. > I am sure it was better than the 90 minute wait to > get over the George Washington Bridge. I never > go over that bridge. One could hardly blame you. I do not intend on ever taking it again if it is possible for me to avoid doing so. > Glad you had a good time. I ate the other 1/2 > of my sandwich on the way to work this morning. > It was better the next day. > > I thought that other sandwich was for your mother? > Whaaa happened? ; ) She said she didn't want it. Go figure... > Let me know when you are around > these parts and we will hang out. Shall do. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: Download Series Vol. 6 Date: 28 Sep 2005 15:52:35 -0700 >The price should be $9.99. Testify Brother! You have a witness. 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