From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #428 Dead-Flames Digest #428, Volume #48 Wed, 28 Sep 05 00:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("Ray") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: I hate to wear socks! ("Ray") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("pv34pv3p") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("DGDevin") Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("Carlisle") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite (JimK) Re: 33 years old and never been on a date ("Jerry Lobrowski") Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite ("RitaMay") "Get Up, Stand Up" on PBS Wed night ("Rupert") Re: the strangest of places... (Seth Jackson) Re: 33 years old and never been on a date (Seth Jackson) Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable (Steve Lenier) Re: Shut Down The War Machine ("Ray") Re: Rex show tonight... (jill) Re: cast the grateful dead movie (Steve Lenier) Re: the strangest of places... ("band beyond description") Re: TRISTAN GOT HIS LICENSE!!!! (Steve Lenier) Re: 33 years old and never been on a date ("Jerry Lobrowski") Re: 33 years old and never been on a date ("Josh") Re: 33 years old and never been on a date ("Jerry Lobrowski") Re: Don Adams dies (NDC) ("The Iron Muffin") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 27 Sep 2005 21:35:37 -0700 Ray wrote: > Richard Morris wrote: > > "Ray" wrote in message > > news:1127879995.437582.102220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Richard Morris wrote: > > >> "Ray" wrote in message > > >> news:1127876824.722599.107190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > >> > Richard Morris wrote: > > >> >> "Ray" wrote: > > >> >> > I very much hope that happens in the next election. But shutting > > >> >> > down > > >> >> > San Francisco will only result in San Francisco taxpayers picking up > > >> >> > the tab for a bunch of angry people -- most of whom don't live in > > >> >> > SF -- > > >> >> > shouting into the ether. Again. > > >> >> > > >> >> Last I recall, in the constitution of the United States, there was > > >> >> some > > >> >> language about the right of the people to peaceably assemble. Does > > >> >> that > > >> >> ring a bell to you? > > >> > > > >> > Why yes. Is the difference between peaceable assembly and illegally > > >> > 'shutting down' parts of a city lost on you? > > >> > > >> And if the peaceable assemble results in shutting down parts of the city, > > >> tell me what bothers you about that? > > > > > > Provided that the assembly has the proper permits, nothing. Indeed I > > > believe such assemblies are sometimes necessary for an effectively > > > functioning democracy. > > > > > > If the assembly does not have the proper permits, however, it costs the > > > government -- that is, the people -- considerable additional > > > expenditures to maintain public order. Moreover the potential for > > > anarchy leading to violence and destruction is increased - it's exactly > > > the kind of environment that the lets-smash-windows-and-attack-cops > > > so-called 'anarchists' types thrive in and love to exploit. > > > > I am missing something here. How is it that permits reduce the necessary > > expenditures to maintain public order, and lack of permits increases the > > necessary expenditures to maintain public order? > > If the assembly is large and you don't know where it's going to go, the > government has to employ significantly more resources to be able to > handle all possible scenarios. > > Also, remember that the stated goal of some of these protestors is to > "shut down" the city - which, in addition to increased govt resource > expenditures to address such "shut down" agendas - also adversely > impacts local businesses as well. > > And there's no need for those sorts of adverse impacts to get one's > voice heard. > > > Also, what does the possession of permits do, one way or the other, to > > reduce or increase the potential for anarchist types to exploit a public > > gathering to promulgate disorder? Doesn't any public gathering carry > > that potential? > > Sure. However the potential for anarchy leading to violence and > destruction is *increased* when a large assembly is mobile and you > don't know where it is going to go. > > > > And whether that sort of thing bothers you too or not, the > > > Constitutional right of the people to peacably assemble is not > > > infringed upon by requiring that large assemblies have permits - that's > > > a red herring. > > > > So if they have permits, you are okay, if they are peacable (which we > > stipulated from the get-go, and which by definition excludes the actions of > > anarchist types) ... even if it results in parts of the city "shutting down" > > (which I take to mean becoming inaccessible). > > > > To restate: a gathering is okay with you, provided there are permits. Even > > if it results in the closing of streets or neighborhoods temporarily--say > > for the purposes of a march or parade? > > When we are talking about large assemblies, yes. (At what point an > assembly becomes sufficently 'large' so as to require permits is of > course a gray area and debatable.) I forgot to add: With permitted assemblies (whereby the assembly honors its agreement under the permit) traffic can be re-routed in predictable ways, thus lessening the adverse impact on traffic patterns. Which is especially important when one takes into account emergency services. Ray ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:37:18 GMT "JC Martin" wrote in message news:Tcf_e.450$Aw.6803@typhoon.sonic.net... > Bullhorns??? LOL Okay, sure. Why is that funny? I've watched organizers and crowd marshalls use them to distribute info and steer the crowd and get chants going, not something you've ever seen? Doesn't strike me as a fantastic thing for people organizing a demo to have with them.... ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:38:16 GMT "Tim Donohoe" wrote in message news:Uln_e.2039$Fc4.658@twister.nyc.rr.com... > Maybe they can hire the Hells Angels to do security. Fine idea, the 40th anniversary ain't that far away.... ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:40:01 GMT "leftie" wrote in message news:dhbvkv$vq5$1@agate.berkeley.edu... >> ...we need to choose... > > What do you mean "we," kimosabe? > > Bush apologists like you have no business telling the anti-war movement > what to do. "Bush apologists," right, anyone who doesn't buy into your whole program hook, line and sinker is a "Bush apologist" even if he thinks Bush is a mutt, no wonder your crew has so much trouble winning elections, you alienate people at the DNA level. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: I hate to wear socks! Date: 27 Sep 2005 21:48:18 -0700 Neil X. wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > > When we went pub crawling, before the neighbors finally got > > him those boxers the women would disappear faster than victims in the > > "Scream" series. > > Uh, they weren't "disappearing," Ray; what they were doing is called > "swooning." "Swooning" means screaming and running for the nearest exit as fast as possible?!? Who knew. Ray ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 27 Sep 2005 21:48:38 -0700 >"Bush apologists," right, anyone who doesn't buy into your whole program >hook, line and sinker is a "Bush apologist" even if he thinks Bush is a >mutt, no wonder your crew has so much trouble winning elections, you >alienate people at the DNA level. Nice work 007....I mean DGDevin...;~) Tony Blair supports your efforts and they won't go unrecognized... pv34pv3p(Help on the way....) ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:56:52 GMT "Ray" wrote in message news:1127843735.173889.183040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > As JC noted, organizers of such events -- many of them, anyway -- make > it clear to the media and to the anarchists that they don't accept or > appreciate that kind of behavior. Sort of like announcing that we're not in favor of burglary and crack-dealing and prostitution in our neighborhood but not actually doing anything to really discourage it. Their disaproval means nothing if they don't take action to free themselves of the violence-vampires. > OTOH there are also some organizers - notably ANSWER and their ilk - > that I believe do sympathize of such behavior. For that and a > multitude of other reasons, I think that ANSWER and their ilk are a > cancer to the larger protest movement. Yeah, the problem being that nobody wants to stand up and say "No" to allowing the wingnuts to join in, it's as if they think they need every warm body that will show up. Hell, I seem to recall the last time around, back in the day, that the feds tried to encourage exactly such behavior because they knew it weakened the anti-war movement in the eyes of many citizens. > Also I think your suggestion of assigning people to follow these > wingnuts around is a good one, and that the lack of it is a valid > criticism. Video-cameras and cellphones, both wonderful inventions, but how many anti-war groups would have the balls to be seen cooperating with the cops? > I wasn't at the Port of Oakland protest, but my > understanding/recollection of that incident was that there was in fact > at least some over-reaction by the police. Which isn't to say that I'm > suggesting that all of the protesters there were without blame - esp. > if the anarchist types were there then I'd wager that a small > percentage of the protesters played a significant negative role as > well. That was the whole point, they *wanted* a reaction from the cops and engineered one, it's classic guerilla tactics, provoke the authorities to violence in order to generate more recruits. This wasn't some fringe group that hijacked a demonstration, the trouble was built-in from the beginning, and if the bulk of the crowd didn't know they were cannon-fodder, well, more fools them. > What response did he get from his local branch of the RNC? Something > along the lines of: > Somehow I doubt it. > > Ray Doubt away, but it was more alone the lines of, "You're not the only one who is unhappy, we're trying to make our voices heard at the national level, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, stick around and help reform the party from the inside." Interesting to hear how he talks about Bush and Co. these days, never thought I'd hear the like from him, kind of cool actually. ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 27 Sep 2005 22:01:27 -0700 Joe wrote: > Excuse me, but I have a plane to catch, so... Have fun!! > > I just want to urge those of you who despise war-without-end, who are > disgusted with FEMA, hate the fact that Bush has wrecked our economy, > and anyone who is angry about $3 gas... Sure I'm pissed. I'm just not entirely convinced it's ALL Bush's fault. Perhaps it's more complicated, although I wish it weren't and the opposition could solve all our woes. > > Express yourself on 11/2. I express myself every day, mister! ;} > > But, even before that, contact your Senators and Congressperson, and tell > them they (and we) can do better than genocide, pollution, bribery, > corruption and theft. I agree with this statement. Any decent humanoid would though. > > And, best to ignore the RWNDH trolls. They just want to distract you. > > Have fun everyone, enjoy DNB on 10/15 and 10/16 (www.nelsonband.com), and > dig the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass. Bluegrass rocks..May I recommend a treat? You probably already got this--"The Three Pickers" with Earl Scruggs, Doc Watson and Ricky Scaggs. This recording is the real deal. > > And, again...ignore the trolls. "the trolls" (I was called a troll) keep things lively. Would you really want everyone around here agreeing all the time about anything? Nah, especially not politics. As long as people are being half way civil and thought provoking, I think it's a good thing. You people have really given me alot of food for thought. This has been a rich thread. > > Joe Carrie Live from the Bluegrass State ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:02:15 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 28 Sep 2005 03:28:53 GMT, Joe wrote: >PLAY FUCKING LOUD "If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud." --- Mickey Hart JimK ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Lobrowski" Subject: Re: 33 years old and never been on a date Date: 27 Sep 2005 22:13:20 -0700 Carlisle wrote: > Jerry Lobrowski wrote: > > Carlisle wrote: > > > Jerry Lobrowski wrote: > > > > Its true. It sucks to be me. > > > > > > "Cheer up, Palmer- > > > You'll soon be dead." > > > > > > > > > I have no idea where this quote originated, but I find more comfort > > than fear in my own mortality. > > Here's a link to the whole Phish song- > http://www.geocities.com/jure.babnik/lyrics/acdc_bag.txt > > I am sorry. I am not much into Phish. Even though The Grateful Dead was the world to me up until 1995, I was never much into "jam bands." I also like punk rock, rap, classic rock, heavy metal and pop. I still listened to other music, and Phish just wasn't "it." > > > > > So I've heard there are some old hippies out in San Francisco who could > > > hook you up right nice, man. ;~} > > > > At this point I am too drunk to read internet posts coherently so I > > hope you aren't offering to set me up with a man from San Francisco, > > especially all the way from Kentucky. > > Relax, JL. That's actually not what I was thinking. I have discovered > quite recently that Geraldine is a female plant living out in Marin > County. Cool. I would like the bay area if it wasn't so liberal. I wrote another post on google groups all about an experience up there. >Meanwhile, have you looked into eHarmony.com ?? No, but I got telemarketed by Great Expectations once. It was a lot of fun. I never wrote any google posts about them even though lots of other people have. > > > > > Stay Grateful > > > > Always. > > > peace, > Carlisle Landers > Grateful Advice Columnist ------------------------------ From: "RitaMay" Subject: Re: ndc-Dylan special on PBS tonite Date: 27 Sep 2005 22:23:48 -0700 This is the first time I've had the opportunity to hear Dylan just sitting and talking like a normal person. I guess in real life you *can* understand what he's saying. Very cool show. my exact sentiments. This is an incredible release. Dylan, what more can you say. The best ever. ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: "Get Up, Stand Up" on PBS Wed night Date: 27 Sep 2005 22:37:17 -0700 Just caught a promo for this after the Dylan special... The history of protest songs in pop music, from Dylan and Baez to U2 and Public Enemy: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/getupstandup/ Looks like it's worth checking out. Also features the likes of Lennon and Hendrix, the show is hosted by Chuck D. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: the strangest of places... Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:37:27 GMT On 27 Sep 2005 12:07:40 -0700, "Dylanstubs" wrote: >> the.stug...@gmail.com wrote: >> where is the 'strangest' place where >> you ran into something GD related, >> when you least expected it? > >Estimated playing on the p.a. in the lingerie department at Macys. I've heard Estimated playing on the Supermarket Muzak system. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: 33 years old and never been on a date Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:39:39 GMT On 27 Sep 2005 19:50:19 -0700, "Jerry Lobrowski" wrote: > >Dylanstubs wrote: >> 8/10/82 was a pretty good date. So was 10/12/84. > >1983 is conspicuously absent > >> >> But seriously, ever try asking anyone out? > >Not really. There's your trouble. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:47:39 -0700 Subject: Re: 3 Brazilian killed in Iraq, Bush inconsolable From: Steve Lenier in article xIidnQqE6KLTfqreRVn-pw@comcast.com, volkfolk at volkfolk@comcast.net wrote on 9/26/05 5:02 AM: > > (Associated Press-Washington DC) > > White House sources revealed today that during a recent cabinet meeting > Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld reported that three Brazilian soldiers > were killed in Iraq yesterday. According to the source, President Bush was > inconsolable, and reduced to tears by this news. The only question that he > was able to ask through his tears was "Don, how many is a Brazilian?" > > Hi-Yo!!!!!!! > > Scot > > I liked it :) Teri thought it was weak. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Shut Down The War Machine Date: 27 Sep 2005 23:01:04 -0700 DGDevin wrote: > "Ray" wrote: > > As JC noted, organizers of such events -- many of them, anyway -- make > > it clear to the media and to the anarchists that they don't accept or > > appreciate that kind of behavior. > > Sort of like announcing that we're not in favor of burglary and > crack-dealing and prostitution in our neighborhood but not actually doing > anything to really discourage it. Their disaproval means nothing if they > don't take action to free themselves of the violence-vampires. Oh YEAH? Actually, I don't disagree. > > OTOH there are also some organizers - notably ANSWER and their ilk - > > that I believe do sympathize of such behavior. For that and a > > multitude of other reasons, I think that ANSWER and their ilk are a > > cancer to the larger protest movement. > > Yeah, the problem being that nobody wants to stand up and say "No" to > allowing the wingnuts to join in, it's as if they think they need every warm > body that will show up. Yup, agreed. > Hell, I seem to recall the last time around, back > in the day, that the feds tried to encourage exactly such behavior because > they knew it weakened the anti-war movement in the eyes of many citizens. Whether they actually did encourage such behavior or not, it certainly would have been a smart tactical move on their part. And the same holds true today. (Hmmmm...) > > I wasn't at the Port of Oakland protest, but my > > understanding/recollection of that incident was that there was in fact > > at least some over-reaction by the police. Which isn't to say that I'm > > suggesting that all of the protesters there were without blame - esp. > > if the anarchist types were there then I'd wager that a small > > percentage of the protesters played a significant negative role as > > well. > > That was the whole point, they *wanted* a reaction from the cops and > engineered one, it's classic guerilla tactics, provoke the authorities to > violence in order to generate more recruits. This wasn't some fringe group > that hijacked a demonstration, the trouble was built-in from the beginning, > and if the bulk of the crowd didn't know they were cannon-fodder, well, more > fools them. That's not my understanding of those events. But again I wasn't there, and moreover I didn't know that much about it to begin with. And from direct personal experience I do know without doubt that there are some protestors who behave exactly as you describe here, so I don't find the scenario that you describe here to be too far-fetched. Sad, really. Like you say, the problem is that not enough people stand up and say "no" to these people and their inexcusable actions. As well as their often fascist (literally) ideologies. > Interesting to hear how he talks about Bush and > Co. these days, never thought I'd hear the like from him, kind of cool > actually. Things have gotten so odious under this Adminstration that even some hardcore Repubs are finally getting disgusted. Funny how you'd never know that from the rhetoric of the hardcore see-no-evil, blame-anyyone-and-anything-else Bushies around here though. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:11:02 -0700 From: jill Subject: Re: Rex show tonight... Joe wrote: > AirtimeJunkie wrote: > > >>Geraldine saved the day. And night. Thank you, Geraldine! As always, >>you came through! > > >>LOL! Glad to hear it, Joe! > > > It turned out to be a wonderful evening. > > I really didn't care, so didn't get advance tix, and had a friend from > rmgd not an an extra, I wouldn't have even gone. > > But now, I'm certainly glad I went. I mean...any concert that starts with > David Nelson has gotta be a good show. I think I enjoyed the Donna/Bob > duets the best. > > Had I known in advance that I'd be going, there were a lot of rmgd'ers I > would have liked to have met. The only one I did run into there was Tim > Lynch. > > Jill (from rmgd) saw the 18 years olds later on in the evening, and she > said one of them was licking a tree. LOL > > Joe > > > It was more of a caress. It also may have been holding her upright. I just remember the big smile on her face :D Unbelieveable evening. Thanks for the company Joe! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:19:07 -0700 Subject: Re: cast the grateful dead movie From: Steve Lenier in article 1127779444.195254.165420@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, RickNBarbInSD at rickdowling@cox.net wrote on 9/26/05 5:04 PM: > > Mookie wrote: > > >> Ed Begley as Lesh is PERFECT. I rarely laugh out loud, but I did when I >> read that. Well done! > > > Thanks Mookie! Hehe. ;D > > > Rick > yeah, find somebody better for Bobby, and you've pretty much nailed it Rick :) Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: the strangest of places... Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:21:06 +0900 wrote in message news:1127846409.554407.284400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > where is the 'strangest' place where > you ran into something GD related, > when you least expected it? > > mine: > > easter 1989... at mass... > opened the hymnal, and two ticket stubs > from september 2, 1988 (cap center) > were placed somewhere near the middle. > > -matt > don't know if this is the strangest EVER, but at least it's the most recent... this past weekend, we were at a local outlet mall adjacent to Tokyo, and on the main ground level was an outdoor sculpture garden of sorts, in which there were three art sculptures that were maybe 10 or 15 feet high with a space to put your cranium inside to hear some piped-in music...of the three, one was playing R&B, one was urban top 40, while the third was -- some sort of Grateful Dead playlist thing! I was astounded when I heard a live-sounding "Must Have Been the Roses," and when I returned to it several minutes later just to make sure it wasn't a fluke, there was a JGB version of "Run for the Roses" playing....was wondering if these were from commercial releases or tapes strung together by a Japanese artist; just goes to show you don't ever know... -- Peace, ~ Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:30:35 -0700 Subject: Re: TRISTAN GOT HIS LICENSE!!!! From: Steve Lenier in article dha9cd02jsi@news2.newsguy.com, The Lord of Eltingville at tthomas@[REMOVE_TO_REPLY]ogre.net wrote on 9/26/05 7:00 PM: > Steve Terry wrote: >> >> "The Lord of Eltingville" wrote in >> message news:dh9s3a011ai@news3.newsguy.com... >>> Sherry wrote: >>>> >>>> WaHOOOOOOOO! My son got his license today! As they say, 3rd time was the >>>> charm. :) He is thrilled and so am I. :) First thing we did when we got >>>> home >>>> was move Thea's car seat back into my car (he's been driving us all >>>> everywhere all the time since he got his own car, his choice). Then, he >>>> called up his friends and made PLANS. I don't expect him home until >>>> late tonight. At 18, I'm not holding him to a curfew. >>>> >>>> Now I can "progress" from having to stay up late to drive him home, to >>>> staying up late worrying he's lying somewhere in a ditch after a crash. >>>> >>>> >>>> I am SO happy for him! :) >>>> >>>> Sherry in Vermont >>> >>> >>> Here's hoping he's a lot smarter than I was the first evening/night I >>> got my license... >> >> ...and...? > > After getting home from passing my test, I had dinner with the folks and > asked to borrow my mother's car. I was less than a half mile from home > and got my first speeding ticket -- 45 in a 30 zone. > > When I handed the cop my paper temp license, he told me that he could > tear it in half if he wanted to. I politely asked him not to. He > didn't, but he did give me a ticket. > > Then I went and picked up some friends. One thing led to another and we > all rode around drinking beer and enjoying smokey treats until about > 1am. > > Not a good way to start things off, and thankfully nobody ever got hurt > before I smartened up many years later... I'm sure we all have stories where we were more stupid than we deserved to live through...in high school I lived in Iowa, but very close to the South Dakota border, and being that the drinking age over there was 18 and we could pass as being that old (though we weren't), we'd often go over for our beer...I went over one night, grabbed a six and was driving back (on country roads in the dark) drinking them...JUST in the nick of time did I notice there was an unmarked railroad crossing just ahead, with a train streaming through...I slammed on my brakes, sliding on the dirt road, and stopped literally inches from running into that train... Steve ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Lobrowski" Subject: Re: 33 years old and never been on a date Date: 27 Sep 2005 23:44:47 -0700 Seth Jackson wrote: > On 27 Sep 2005 19:50:19 -0700, "Jerry Lobrowski" > wrote: > > > > >Dylanstubs wrote: > >> 8/10/82 was a pretty good date. So was 10/12/84. > > > >1983 is conspicuously absent > > > >> > >> But seriously, ever try asking anyone out? > > > >Not really. > > There's your trouble. I've had good luck getting chicks to at least talk to me when I had extra Dead tickets but that didn't happen every day and I didn't know what else to do to get the hot babes' attention. I remember trying to impress this cute Asian chick by rampaging through an urban neighborhood outside a Dead show with water pistol and ski mask trying to get miracle tickets. She didn't think it was funny so I gave up even trying. Rather than criticize me, can you at least tell me what I am doing wrong. ------------------------------ From: "Josh" Subject: Re: 33 years old and never been on a date Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:46:29 GMT "Jerry Lobrowski" wrote in message news:1127889887.115722.3110@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Rather than criticize me, can you at least tell me what I am doing > wrong. Umm...trolling? Just a thought... -Josh ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Lobrowski" Subject: Re: 33 years old and never been on a date Date: 27 Sep 2005 23:52:35 -0700 Josh wrote: > "Jerry Lobrowski" wrote in message > news:1127889887.115722.3110@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Rather than criticize me, can you at least tell me what I am doing > > wrong. > > Umm...trolling? Trying is the polite term. > > Just a thought... > Just never found the right bait. Even paying extra for premium stock on the pier never got me anything I couldn't get goofing around for free. > -Josh ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Don Adams dies (NDC) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:07:59 -0400 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .