From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #408 Dead-Flames Digest #408, Volume #48 Mon, 26 Sep 05 04:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: "The War at Home" tonight ("k sturm") Re: I hate to wear socks! ("band beyond description") Re: Gore 08 ??? ("pv34pv3p") Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . ("pv34pv3p") Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . ("k sturm") Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . ("pv34pv3p") Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . ("pv34pv3p") Re: most you've driven in one day ("Bill Kawalec") Whole Lotta Jerry Goin' On (V7) (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: most you've driven in one day (fattuchus@yahoo.com) Re: most you've driven in one day (fattuchus@yahoo.com) Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? ("Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty") Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? ("Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty") Protesters verses supporters. (ba ba booie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: "The War at Home" tonight Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 05:26:39 GMT "Rupert" wrote in message news:1127712197.607731.150530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Cherie and I just started watching this show, part of the FOX Sunday > night lineup, and are glad to see that the new tv family is just as > dysfunctional as any other on Sunday night (Bundies, Simpsons, > Griffins, Malcom in the Middle). > > But tonight's episode blew us away! It was the pro-weed episode, where > there's a fight over who stole the parents' "stash". But while both of > the parents scold the other over how bad it is for them to be smoking, > they both have stoned flashbacks about their respective party days. > > The dad tells his daughter that he had it in his drawer because it's > for his mother-in-law's glaucoma, so the son goes out and buys Grandma > some weed on the sly. Well, at the closing credits, Grandma and her > friend in the home are both completely stoned! > Yep, I wanted to watch The West Wing, but turned that show on during the first commercial break and kept watching it. It was great! ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: I hate to wear socks! Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:42:31 +0900 nothing wrong with occasionally wearing socks with Birkys or Tevas, to protect your feet... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Gore 08 ??? Date: 25 Sep 2005 23:10:46 -0700 > if McCain got the nomination it would only be over the dead bodies of most of the party's ideological elite. Are you suggesting the same wouldn't be as true for Richardson? If so..why? If not..why not? Like I said...It would be a truly facinating race... Imagine actually having to address facts and issues instead of rhetoric and hyperbole... pv34pv3p(Fuckit... Joe's prolly right...) ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . Date: 25 Sep 2005 23:18:24 -0700 Please don't feed the troll...;~) pv34pv3p(One man gathers what another man spills...) ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:22:14 GMT "pv34pv3p" wrote in message news:1127715504.379607.285750@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Please don't feed the troll...;~) > > pv34pv3p(One man gathers what another man spills...) > Yeah, a troll, that's me for sure. You become more and more amusing every day... #### ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . Date: 25 Sep 2005 23:27:26 -0700 Forgot to mention... Joe's back in the orgone accumulator...and not able to reply for a while... For information on how to build your own unit please see.... http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax2001-grnfld-aa.htm pv34pv3p(Just trying to help...) ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: My NYC Experience 9/22/05 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:09:19 -0400 band beyond description wrote: > > "dearmeyer®" wrote in message > news:bpfZe.13074$L45.3524@fe07.lga... > > > You got ripped. If you ever visit Minnesnowta, I'll > > > put you onto some of the local weed and let you pay > > > what you think it's worth. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > Are ya near Winona? > > > > > > Ryder? Nah. I barely knew 'er.... ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Hey, Joe (and everyone else, too) . . . Date: 25 Sep 2005 23:40:09 -0700 Sorry..I didn't mean to attribute troll to anyone in particular... Just seen Ken and Ray do it so often...and since they're not around at the moment...it seemed like the thing to do... pv34pv3p(When your smiling...) ------------------------------ From: "Bill Kawalec" Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.music.beatles,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s Subject: Re: most you've driven in one day Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:03:04 -0400 12 hours, from Detroit to Cooperstown, with a small side trip to Toronto, because I made a wrong turn. "alejandro de tacobell" wrote in message news:1127705582.868987.44350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > one time, i drove for 7 hrs straight. top that. > ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Whole Lotta Jerry Goin' On (V7) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:58:50 -0400 Another batch of '76 shows fer yer lissenin' enjoyment. As with the other sets, this collection is being offered just as I got'em...shn/flac format on DVD. Hopefully, those that receive copies will be generous enough to re-offer the shows individually to those without DVD drives and/or those who can only use audio discs. The usual B&P guidelines at http://www.mcnichol.com/bnp" apply. Please read through them before replying to me directly. Replies to the group will be ignored or mocked. Enjoy, ~Ted Here's what's on the DVD: =============================================================== Jerry Garcia Band Moore's Egyptian Theater Seattle, WA 3/6/76 Lineage: A:MCass>CD Sony ECM 18N mics>Sony TC-152 from 4th or 5th row. Recorded and transferred to CD by Pat Lee. Disc 1 / Set 1: Tore Up Catfish John Russian Lullaby They Love Each Other Mystery Train Who Was John Dixie Disc 2: Lonesome and A Long Way From Home Set 2: The Harder They Come Friend of the Devil After Midnight Moonlight Mile A Strange Man (a.k.a Sumerian Woman) Disc 3: I Want To Tell You > My Sisters and Brothers //How Sweet It Is Notes: The show was recorded on Maxell UD C120 (120 minute) tape. Converted to SHN via EAC by David Hollister 2/10/03. Enjoy! via EAC by David Hollister 2/10/03. Enjoy! ============================================================================= Jerry Garcia Band Lisner Auditorium George Washington University Washington, DC 4/3/76 Late Show MAC (Taped by Scott Jones, Shure mics > Sony TC-158) > DAT > 3CD > HP 9350i extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > tracking (CD Wave) > editing (SF Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille (jjoops AT attbi DOT com). Disc One (5) 50:14 (missing Sugaree) 01. Taper Talk, Crowd & Tuning [1:40] 02. Don't Let Go [18:27] [0:40] 03. Sitting In Limbo [11:34] [1:38] 04. The Way You Do The Things You Do [7:14] [1:23] 05. Friend of the Devil [7:27] [0:10] Disc Two (4) 41:52 01. Crowd & Tuning [0:20] 02. A Strange Man [6:20] [1:58] 03. Night They Drove Old Dixie Down [10:09] [0:43] 04. Lonesome And A Long Way From Home [22:00] [0:20] Notes: - This is an absolute must-have! A gorgeous recording of a great show, perhaps my favorite of 1976. The Lonesome and a Long Way From Home is particularly nice. - This is not the same as an earlier-circulating version of this show, also an excellent master and also missing Sugaree (security was seemingly very tight), which is often misattributed to Jerry Moore and circulates as MAC > reel > DAT > CD. - No flaws noted. Thanks to Andy Lemieux for the source discs! A MisSHN in the Rain Installment of the Music Never Stopped Project, 5/2003. ============================================================================= Jerry Garcia Band Keystone Berkeley, CA 5/20/76 MAC (Taped by Bob Menke and Louis Falanga, Sony ECM-250 + Sony ECM-270 mics > Sony TC-152) > DAT > 2 or 3 CD gens > HP 9350i extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > tracking (CD Wave) > minor editing (SF Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille (jjoops AT attbi DOT com). Disc One (8) 71:13 --Set I-- 01. Crowd & Tuning [0:06] 02. Sugaree [10:08] [0:33] 03. Catfish John [7:44] [1:16] 04. After Midnight [10:03] [0:38] 05. Who Was John [13:01] [0:18] 06. The Way You Do The Things You Do [6:33] [0:19] 07. Friend Of The Devil [7:50] [0:58] 08. Lonesome And A Long Way From Home [11:26] [0:17] Disc Two (6) 64:29 --Set II-- 01. /How Sweet It Is [#8:54] [0:28] 02. They Love Each Other [6:49] [0:24] 03. /A Strange Man [#6:16] [0:35] 04. Tore Up// Over You [8:#15] [0:11] 05. Don't Let Go [16:28] [0:58] 06. Harder They Come [14:52] [0:17] Notes/Flaws: - This a nice recording of a solid show. I have been told that this was the last show recorded by Menke and Falanga with the mics onstage, but a second source dates the demise of that setup to 2/15/76 (specifically, when the R channel goes out during Knockin' on Heaven's Door, associated with Parrish cutting the mic cable). I don't know which is correct. - Set I has also circulated from this master has also circulated from MAC > Reel > VHS > DAT > CDR. - There are some very light ticks occasionally audible, but generally only during very quiet between-song tunings. - d2t01 How Sweet fades in (very little missing), tick @ 0:30 - d2t03 Strange Man barely clips in - d2t04 Tore Up brief splice @ 7:22 - DLG and HTC are a bit louder than the rest of set II. - The only edits undertaken were to remove a few ticks just before Harder They Come and a tick at the start of Tore Up. Thanks to Jim Powell for the source discs! A MisSHN in the Rain Installment of the Music Never Stopped Project, 5/2003. ============================================================================= Jerry Garcia Band 7/8/76 Keystone Berkeley, CA Source: SBD>?>DAT>WAV(via analog cables)>SHN DAT>WAV>SHN by dean@deanos.net 5/03 Seeded by jim@juddcreek.com 6/03 *Disc 1* +-+-+-+-+ 1. After Midnight Tore Up Over You (missing) 2. Stir It Up 3. Mission in the Rain 4. Who was John 5. Midnight Moonlight *Disc 2* +-+-+-+-+ 1. Don't Let Go 2. The Way You Do the Things You Do 3. Stop that Train NOTES : A bit of muddiness/hissiness didn't detract from my listening pleasure on this one. Bass is heavy at times. : ryan@thejerrysite.com lists Tore Up before Stir It Up, which is not included here (or on a different copy I have on cassette). : Tape goobers found occasionally between tracks left unaltered. : The ongoing debate about whether or not, and how, to use noise reduction prompted me to leave this one unaltered. I'd be happy to spend some time trying to clean this up if anyone is interested in a side-by-side taste test. :) - Jim ============================================================================= JERRY GARCIA BAND March 12, 1976 Cahn Auditorium, Northwestern University - Evanston, IL Audience Recording AUDMC > C > DAT > WAV > SHN Recorded 2nd row, center left; with unknown deck with built in mics. 1st gen source tape from Eric Coplen. Cass > DAT by Ryan Shriver DAT > SHN by Noah Weiner Master Cassettes played back on Philips FC-60 deck > Lucid AD9624 > Sony PCM-R500 DAT deck (record) > Fostex D5 DAT deck (playback) > Turtle Beach Montego II Digital I/O > Sound Forge (wav edits and track IDs) > SHNTOOL (SBE fix) > MKW Audio Compression Tool (shn) SINGLE DISC early show-p: 01 [07:53] How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) 02 [10:47] Catfish John 03 [11:58] After Midnight 04 [07:14] Mission In The Rain 05 [02:23] Who Was John/ late show-p: 06 [14:51] The Harder They Come* tt [55:06] *battery failure becomes evident in tape speed fluctuation toward the end of the tape. ============================================================================= Jerry Garcia Band The Palace Theater Waterbury, CT 4/1/76 MAC (Taped by Jerry Moore, Sony ECM-33p mics > Sony TC-153 [Maxell XL cassettes]) > Tascam 122MKIII playback > Tascam DA-40 master DAT > Tascam CDRW 700 master CD > maybe 1 CD > EAC > SHN. A > D by Mark Cohen, EAC > SHN by Rango Keshavan, info by Joe Jupille. Disc One (7) 72:26 --Set I-- 01. Crowd & Tuning [0:52] 02. Sugaree [10:46] [0:50] 03. Catfish John [10:45] [0:50] 04. After Midnight [12:48] [1:33] 05. Sitting in Limbo [[10:52] [3:16] 06. Friend of the Devil [7:27] [2:48] 07. Tore Up [9:06] [0:28] Disc Two (7) 70:46 --Set I (con't)-- 01. Crowd & Tuning [1:16] 02. I'll Take a Melody [15:13] -> 03. Don't Let Go [15:25], (end set I) [0:16], (pre-set II) [0:34] --Set II-- 04. How Sweet It Is [9:28] [0:54] 05. They Love Each Other [7:01] [1:16] 06. Strange Man [6:22] [1:25] 07. The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down [10:11] [0:21] Disc Three (4) 41:53 --Set II (con't)-- 01. Crowd & Tuning [1:00] 02. Harder They Come [15:35] [0:21] 03. Sisters & Brothers [7:17] -> 04. Lonesome & a Long Way From// Home [:03+17:#14] [0:21] Notes/Comments: - The info file that originally circulated with these .shns (12/2002) was nothing more than the master lineage and a cut and paste of the setlist. My notes don't mention any specific flaws, please post about any flaws you find in the etree comments for this seed. - This is a wonderful recording of another great 4/76 show. ============================================================================= ------------------------------ From: fattuchus@yahoo.com Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.music.beatles,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s Subject: Re: most you've driven in one day Date: 26 Sep 2005 01:40:50 -0700 But I think the real question is, did anyone take a bathroom break? The real test is how long did you drive while "holding it in." As for me, I could probably go only 3 or 4 hours at most. After that my bladder would burst. ------------------------------ From: fattuchus@yahoo.com Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.music.beatles,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s Subject: Re: most you've driven in one day Date: 26 Sep 2005 01:43:38 -0700 And I suppose a corollary to all this is "HOw long have you driven while suffering with diarrhea?" but I guess that should be discussed in a separate thread. ------------------------------ From: "Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty" Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s Subject: Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? Date: 26 Sep 2005 02:31:45 -0700 Who ? Nanna Mouskouri & Demis Roussos are aboput the only griks to have ever made a mainstream pop impression outside of greasy greece *LOL* ------------------------------ From: "Walter Constantin Gogu Costica Brincoveanu Mitty" Crossposted-To: rec.arts.movies.current-films,soc.culture.greek,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s Subject: Re: your favorite non-american or non-british pop star? Date: 26 Sep 2005 02:33:12 -0700 I like FEDON cos half his songs are in Grik and the second half is in Turkish But I've only heared of him when in Turkey cos I'm a Turk Nobody in the UK knows Fedon ------------------------------ From: Jazare@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Protesters verses supporters. Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:00:03 -0400 About 100,000 anti-war protesters rally in capital By Mark Memmott, USA TODAY WASHINGTON =97 Three days of anti-war activities, including the largest such protest here since the war in Iraq began in March 2003, are scheduled to end today with what organizers hope will be peaceful arrests at the White House gates. At the same time, a smaller group that supports U.S. policy on Iraq plans to finish its three days of counterdemonstrations with meetings on Capitol Hill with like-minded lawmakers. Both sides are led by family members of American troops killed in Iraq. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Chief Charles Ramsey estimated that Saturday's anti-war crowd numbered at least 100,000. Protesters gathered on the National Mall and on the Ellipse outside the White House. Led by Cindy Sheehan, whose son Army Spc. Casey Sheehan was killed by enemy fire in April 2004 in Iraq, the crowd marched around the White House. A similar-sized crowd gathered in January 2003. There were other, smaller protests Saturday in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, London and other cities. President Bush was in Texas and Louisiana during the weekend. In August, Sheehan and her supporters camped out for nearly four weeks near Bush's ranch in Texas. Saturday, she told the crowd the country is being led by an "out-of-control, criminal government ... that condones torture." "We mean business, George Bush," Sheehan said, "and we're going to go to Congress and we're going to ask them, 'How many more of other people's children are you willing to sacrifice for the lies?' And we're going to say, 'Shame on you. Shame on you for giving him the authority to invade Iraq.' " In the crowd, William Liggett of Berryville, Va., said he joined the demonstration because the president's "policy in the Middle East is really against the best interests of America." Iraq is splitting into warring factions, said Liggett, 72, and the president is "going to create a much bigger problem than existed previously." While those protesters were raising their voices, so was a group of people who support the president's policy. Diane Ibbotson of Albion, Ill., lost her son, Army Cpl. Forest Jostes, in the same battle that killed Casey Sheehan. She was among members of 30 "gold star" families who support Bush's policy and said in a meeting with reporters that Sheehan does not speak for everyone who has lost a loved one. Ibbotson said Sheehan is "at best ... a woman overwrought with grief. ... When you call the commander in chief a terrorist, bringing into question the integrity of our leader, you call into question the integrity and character of the United States armed forces." Another Bush supporter, Mike Broomhead of Phoenix, lost his brother, Army Staff Sgt. Thomas Broomhead, in May 2003. "I am not here to change the mind of the protesters. I am not here to change Cindy Sheehan's mind," he said. "I don't have a problem with their opposition. I have a problem with their method, and I have a problem with their vitriol." On Sunday, about 400 people gathered for a rally on the National Mall to support Bush's policy on Iraq,, the Associated Press reported. Today, anti-war protesters plan to march to the White House in the early afternoon. Members of one group =97 Clergy and Laity Concerned About Iraq =97 plan to demand a meeting with the president and to be arrested for refusing to leave the White House gates. Ibbotson, Broomhead and other Bush supporters plan to be at the Capitol to urge lawmakers to support the war effort. bbb wrote: It looks like more people want the war to stop. I just saw on the news yesterday that China is now ready if attacked by America. The way their army marches down the street scares me and looks very much like Hitler's troops marching. Very disturbing! Would that be world war lll This war is not makng the USA look to good around the world. It seems like it is going on forever & ever. You for war or against it? booie....... .. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. 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