From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #395 Dead-Flames Digest #395, Volume #48 Sat, 24 Sep 05 02:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 ("Dave Kelly") Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 ("Dave Kelly") Re: Opening bands today.... if the grateful dead was still here ("Mizshely") Re: Seeking Frankie or Rock Scully ("Mizshely") Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 ("k sturm") Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 ("k sturm") Re: NDC: Doug Killmer RIP (kwin buebly) Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: Sorting Tapes ... What do do with them (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: Opening bands today.... if the grateful dead was still here (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: Sorting Tapes ... What do do with them ("pookietooth") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:03:58 GMT wrote in message news:1127540928.726651.304710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Too bad. Offer closed. I tried to be a cool Deadhead, I tried to fit in > on this group just like the old days. I remember sending out copies of > the gigs I taped when I first got my D6. Oh well, I will just have to > sell the copies I burned at my next yard sale. I always felt accepted > by deadheads out in the parking lot, now I am shunned, just like junior > high school. I am just another nigger. No one wants to even know my > name. This is so sad, I thought I had another chance to make it, to > have some friends, to be somebody, to have fun on a Friday night. You > are mean and stuck up and racist just like everyone else. Goodnight > everybody. YO!....who IS this fag? ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:06:58 GMT "k sturm" wrote in message news:rH5Ze.2059$Vz7.1134@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > ...and there *might* even be a business card from a strip club in there, > too, huh, Sweets? ( Looking up at the ceiling and whistling ) ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: Opening bands today.... if the grateful dead was still here Date: 23 Sep 2005 23:08:59 -0700 Duh! The David Nelson Band. ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: Seeking Frankie or Rock Scully Date: 23 Sep 2005 23:11:46 -0700 Rock lives in Carmel and Frankie Secunda Scully, his wife, passed away about 20 months ago. Also, Rock lost his son in the Tsunami. Sometimes, life just sucks. ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:15:26 GMT "Dave Kelly" wrote in message news:626Ze.1450$Ur.742@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "k sturm" wrote in message > news:rH5Ze.2059$Vz7.1134@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > >> ...and there *might* even be a business card from a strip club in there, >> too, huh, Sweets? > > ( Looking up at the ceiling and whistling ) > Don't worry, I thought it was cute. I think I still have it somewhere. k~ ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: 23 Sep 2005 23:30:51 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > wrote in message > news:1127540928.726651.304710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Too bad. Offer closed. I tried to be a cool Deadhead, I tried to fit in > > on this group just like the old days. I remember sending out copies of > > the gigs I taped when I first got my D6. Oh well, I will just have to > > sell the copies I burned at my next yard sale. I always felt accepted > > by deadheads out in the parking lot, now I am shunned, just like junior > > high school. I am just another nigger. No one wants to even know my > > name. This is so sad, I thought I had another chance to make it, to > > have some friends, to be somebody, to have fun on a Friday night. You > > are mean and stuck up and racist just like everyone else. Goodnight > > everybody. > > YO!....who IS this fag? You don't like fags? Who ever thought I would encounter this attitude among other dead heads after all these years? What is this world coming to, getting abused and disparaged by so called Deadheads? I think this really sucks. This makes me really sad to be abused like this by poeple I thought were my friends. I am glad Jerry isnt a live to see this. ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:34:40 GMT wrote in message news:1127543451.038189.199320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Dave Kelly wrote: >> wrote in message >> news:1127540928.726651.304710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >> >> > Too bad. Offer closed. I tried to be a cool Deadhead, I tried to fit in >> > on this group just like the old days. I remember sending out copies of >> > the gigs I taped when I first got my D6. Oh well, I will just have to >> > sell the copies I burned at my next yard sale. I always felt accepted >> > by deadheads out in the parking lot, now I am shunned, just like junior >> > high school. I am just another nigger. No one wants to even know my >> > name. This is so sad, I thought I had another chance to make it, to >> > have some friends, to be somebody, to have fun on a Friday night. You >> > are mean and stuck up and racist just like everyone else. Goodnight >> > everybody. >> >> YO!....who IS this fag? > > You don't like fags? Who ever thought I would encounter this attitude > among other dead heads after all these years? What is this world coming > to, getting abused and disparaged by so called Deadheads? I think this > really sucks. This makes me really sad to be abused like this by poeple > I thought were my friends. I am glad Jerry isnt a live to see this. > Hey, Dave, this guy is almost as funny as you are! ------------------------------ From: kwin buebly Subject: Re: NDC: Doug Killmer RIP Reply-To: usenetonly@nospam.net Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:35:55 GMT loved him with nick I will remember your happy smiling face and bopping head while you drove the bottom line with your base. May you been in heaven. ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: vine offer Rockpalast 3/28/81 Date: 23 Sep 2005 23:48:59 -0700 k sturm wrote: > wrote in message > news:1127543451.038189.199320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > Dave Kelly wrote: > >> wrote in message > >> news:1127540928.726651.304710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> > >> > Too bad. Offer closed. I tried to be a cool Deadhead, I tried to fit in > >> > on this group just like the old days. I remember sending out copies of > >> > the gigs I taped when I first got my D6. Oh well, I will just have to > >> > sell the copies I burned at my next yard sale. I always felt accepted > >> > by deadheads out in the parking lot, now I am shunned, just like junior > >> > high school. I am just another nigger. No one wants to even know my > >> > name. This is so sad, I thought I had another chance to make it, to > >> > have some friends, to be somebody, to have fun on a Friday night. You > >> > are mean and stuck up and racist just like everyone else. Goodnight > >> > everybody. > >> > >> YO!....who IS this fag? > > > > You don't like fags? Who ever thought I would encounter this attitude > > among other dead heads after all these years? What is this world coming > > to, getting abused and disparaged by so called Deadheads? I think this > > really sucks. This makes me really sad to be abused like this by poeple > > I thought were my friends. I am glad Jerry isnt a live to see this. > > > > Hey, Dave, this guy is almost as funny as you are! You suck ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: Sorting Tapes ... What do do with them Date: 23 Sep 2005 23:55:39 -0700 Richard Morris wrote: .. > > What have other folks done? Anyone come up with some creative ideas for > their own tapes? Or do I just need to get over it, and either give them > away or toss them? > > R. I have 12,000 cassettes, 1,000 reel to reel, several hundred VHS and DAT tapes all stored at the company warehouse downtown. I have no idea what to do with them either. If I had enough weekly dumpster capacity I probably would have just tossed them. I don't really know what to do with so many tapes and don't really want to keep them around anymore. Imagine if I had to keep them just in my apartment. I mean I love the Grateful Dead and liked taping them back in the day but never really expected to accumulate a quarter century worth of media. Where the hell am I going to put it all? ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: Opening bands today.... if the grateful dead was still here Date: 24 Sep 2005 01:10:31 -0700 chosney wrote: > Who would you want to see at the big shows, and its not just a good > group, someone to get the vibe going that can stretch it out a bit.... > It could be a reunion older/band or a newer band...I think you have to > say no bands that consistently sell out major sheds, arenas or stadiums > though. > > My votes would be for... > > Wilco > White Stripes > Sheryl Crow > Camper Van Beethoven/Cracker > American Music Club > Ryan Adams > Paul Westerberg I remember 10 years or so ago going to see the Grateful Dead and that guy from the Police opened. My best friend and favorite deadhead concert buddy went to see Sting open at the Silver Bowl. We first saw The Police and The Grateful Dead at the US Festival in 1982. There was never another concert like the US Festival, ever. We saw the Grateful Dead play in the morning. We also the Police, Fleetwood Mac, Oingo Boingo, David Bowie, The Clash, Van Halen, Quarterflash, Judas Priest, Ozzy and the Ramones. It was the greatest concert EVER. By the time the 90s rolled around, I met this cool girlfriend. She also liked the Grateful Dead and the Police. I fell in love with my girlfriend. I wanted her to marry me. I said we should get married in Las Vegas. We were in love, it was so awesome, I never been in love. The Police had this awesome song called Every Breath You Take, EVery Move You Make, I'll Be Watching You, which was our song, it reminded my girlfriend and me how much we loved each other. I found out the Grateful Dead and Sting, that guy from the Police, were giong to play Las Vegas and we were going to go to concert and get married. Me and my crippled friend and my fiancay were going to go there in the motor home. I got there. I brought the video camera to film our wedding. My friend said we should bring the video camera to film our wedding. I wanted to get married to that chick because I loved her so much. We drove to Las Vegas and got a penthouse suite at the MGM Grand. My girlfriend was going to fly in and join us later. I was partying in the parking lot waiting for my fiancay to join us for the best gig ever, the Grateful Dead, and Sting, that guy from the POlice. I was wondering where she was. We were gonna see The Grateful Dead, and that guy from The Police and get married in Las Vegas. I met her at a Grateful Dead and we loved each other and were going to get married after the gig. Suddenly it was almost showtime and my crippled friend told me my fiancay didnt love me anymore and wasn;t going to show up. I was so desponded I didnt know what I was going to do. But my friend said Sting that guy from the Police we love is about to go on. I said what about my wedding, what about my video camera. He said I am a crippel lets just take the video camera in, I rolled him in with my video camera. We get to the seats, and I am so excited that Sting that guy from the Police is about to go on stage. I think the Police is so awesome. I keep just thinking about my ex girlfriend and fiancay but Sting that guy from the Police goes on stage. Even though I am in the back of the stadium, its still reeal intimite like in a small place because there are only a hundred people in the stadium. Sting that guy from the Police is playing and looks rocking totally moving around like he is really rocking, but I cant hear that much. Its sorta muddled and all wavy. It just isnt loud. I am trying to get into it because I really like Sting that guy from the Police but I just cant hear whats going on. I even yell once or twice "turn It up" but I get some amused bored stares from the handful of deadheads in the stadium at that time. I am trying to get into the music, I think I hear All This Time, and hope I hear So Lonely and Cant Stand Losing You, because I just got dumped by my fiancay who I thought liked the Grateful Dead and Sting, that guy from the Police. The gig is sorta muddled and winds to a close after an hour. Wow, is that it? Nope, a littel while later the stadium is full, and my mind is off all my stuoid problems because the Grateful Dead come out and do 2 sets worth of Grateful Dead songs. No matter how bad life is like when I get ditched by some chick before my wedding, the Grateful Dead come out and make me feel all better. After the show me and my crippeled friend go back to our Penthouse suite at the MGM, I am sad that its just me and my friend and I am not married like I was hoping to be. We plug the video camera into the penthouse suite hotel TV to try to watch our video of Sting, that guy from the Police. Usually even if the concert doesnt sound very good, the tape is better than my deafened ears and at least sounds halfway okay. Even in the beginning we can see Sting flexing his muscles in the utmost clarity like the Demolition MAn video and he would have looked so sexy if it werent just for being abandoned by my fiancey who I thought I loved very much. Even through the hotel TV speaker and the headphones, me and my crippled friend are trying to listen to Sting that guy from the Police and trying to figure out what song he opened with. Then there is all this commotion in the hallway of the MGM drowning it out. I open the door, and see a large noisy group gathering around the door next to mine. I try to yell out amidst the noise "Hey Keep It Down Out There" One of the head turns and the hall lights are glinting off these cokebottles strapped to his head and the reflecting is burning my eyeballs. I am getting even more pissed off at the guy, not only making a lot of noise to drown out my video of Sting that guy from The Police, but wearing this headgear thats blinding me. This voice rises out of the clutter saying "Hey JL, I thought that was you, hows it goin?" Damn, thats Phil Lesh right in front of me. I havent even talked to him since the last time I was next door to him during an Irvine run several years before and he still remembers my name. He comes walking toward me and into my room, followed by his entourage, with his hand outstretched. As I grasp it, the TV farts and burbs before "DOSES DOSES" spits out of the MGM hotel TV speaker and some ugly hippy fills the screen in front of my video camera lens. Phil looks at the TV. Sting, that guy from the Police can barely be heard out the speaker. Phil says "Hey that looks like the Silver Bowl" as he looks at the TV. Sting can be seen flexing his muscles like Demolition Man looking all hot on the TV screen but there isnt much volume. It was a little awkward, both Phil and I knew I shouldnt have filmed the opening act, Sting, that guy from The Police at the Silver Bowl. An awkward silence overtook the room. I feared I was in trouble by overstepping my bounds as a deadhead taper and filming the opening band. A split second later, Phil himself broke the silence and said "Awesome Sting set, turn it up, dude!" as some Police song could be faintly heard in the background. I pointed the remote at the TV with my finger hopefully on the volume button. But the volume was already max. I said, "this is as loud as it goes, it wasnt that loud there" Another awkward silence. The silence was broken by a voice in an English accent - "what do you mean it wasnt that loud? It was a fooken stadium gig" It was Sting, that guy from the Police, standing in my doorway. His face was half frozen in a sneer. His eyes were glaring at the TV screen, his muscles flexing like the Demolition Man video all over the TV but we couldnt really hear much out of the speaker. Phil tried to say "Its probably not a good recording" before the TV speaker once again blared "DOSES DOSES" and Sting's sexy muscle boung body was obscured by some guy standing in front of the camera. Total blackness and "DOSES DOSES" rattling the walls before Sting's muffled voice re appeared out the MGM penthouse suite TV speaker. Once again an awkward silence overtook the room, even more awkward because Sting was obviously rocking out but we couldnt really hear anything. I thought Sting, that guy from the Police, was going to kick my ass for filming the gig but he started yelling about the bad sound and how I shouldnt have taken the camera in since I couldnt get a good representative recording that wasnt even loud enough even though they were playing a stadium, Phil said "I will talk to our sound guy, I dont know why this has happened, we are happy to play with you" I still dont know what to say so I decide to break out the cocaine, always a good ice breaker. My crippled homo friend is so star struck with Sting, that guy from the Police, that he goes rolling up in his wheelchair to try to ask for an oughtagraph. Sting and Phil are arguing in the doorway about the bad stadium sound. Sting flexes his muscles, grabs the handles of my cripples friends wheelchair and pushes him where he goes rolling down the hallway screaming all the way. Sting that guy from the Police goes storming out, followed by Phil still trying to say the sound isnt really as bad as it is on my camera, while once again the speaker starts blaring DOSES DOSES and my crippled friend says "I got ten bucks hit me" out the speaker really loud but not as loud as his screaming down the hall. I run after my friend where he is lodged against the wall down the hall still in his wheelchair. Meanwhile down the hall Sting and Phil are still arguing, Phil adamant there has got to be an explanation and sorry if there isnt. I wheel my friend back into the room and close the door. I am mentally an d physickly exhausted over seeing the show, getting embarrased in front of my best friend, Phil Lesh and Sting, that guy from the Police. I decided to skip the lines I laid out and just go to sleep. Getting dumped by my fiancey and the show was just so tiring. I passed out. I wake up and go to breakfast downstairs. I see Phil down there and wave at him but he just ignores me. He is talking to the sound guy and from across the room its real mean body language. Phil is really mad about the sound. The other 2 gigs were a lot smoother and the sound was better, the only uncomfortable part was when my crippled friend wheeled himself into Jerry's room after night two but I have to tell that story some other day. The only opening bands I remember are Sting that guy from the POlice, Traffic with Steve Winwood and The WHo. Dead shows are much better without them I think, not as much stress. I would have liked to have seen Jefferson Airplane and John Cippolina with the Dead, that would have been cool, the other bands just dont mix, even if its Sting, that guy from the Police opening up. ------------------------------ From: "pookietooth" Subject: Re: Sorting Tapes ... What do do with them Date: 24 Sep 2005 01:18:45 -0700 jpsmith29 wrote: > i say give em to someone who will enjoy them or just toss them out. > you'll feel a great relief once they are gone. can't take em with you > when you go. I agree. Just left mine by a dumpster when I moved. 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