From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #385 Dead-Flames Digest #385, Volume #48 Fri, 23 Sep 05 10:00:02 PDT Contents: Blues For Drusky ("Dave Kelly") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: Dickey Betts tonight! ("Dave Kelly") Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Chicago (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: Chicago ("pbleers@hotmail.com") Re: Chicago (JC Martin) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("pv34pv3p") Re: Republican Bush Bashing! ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Chicago (JC Martin) Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: odd FLAC problem. (DB) Re: Voting with the dead. (some dead content) ("The Iron Muffin") Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Dickey Betts tonight! (Joe) Re: rock star (ndc) ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Dickey Betts tonight! (Ken Fortenberry) Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Re: George Busch drinking......AGAIN..... (Joe) Re: Republican Bush Bashing! ("Ray") Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years ("Stuknot") Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? (JC Martin) Re: Chicago ("pbleers@hotmail.com") Re: Nuke the hurricane! (leftie) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? (JC Martin) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Brave New World ("The Iron Muffin") Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? (leftie) Re: odd FLAC problem. ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Blues For Drusky Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:45:04 GMT 9/23/04 - Grand Ole Opry star Roy Drusky dies following a lengthy illness. He is 74. Atlanta-born Drusky studied veterinary medicine at Emory University before embarking on a music career. He placed 42 songs on Billboard's country singles chart between 1960 and 1977, including "C-H-L-A-M-Y-D-I-A" and "Someone Pissed In My Corn Flakes" ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:45:11 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "JC Martin" wrote in message > news:qbVYe.126$3o.2764@typhoon.sonic.net... > >>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>>"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message >>>news:V9CYe.1067$i31.88@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >>> >>> >>>>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>>It is more than just a little bit presumptuous for a >>>>>>couple of Usenet know-it-alls to lecture a Mom about >>>>>>her own child's medical history and when the Usenet >>>>>>tag team is as contentious as you and Toad >>>>> >>>>>'Scuse me, Mr. ... >>> >>> >>>>Yo, Mr. Stick Up His Ass Usenet Know-It-All, I was >>>>talkin' to JC. >>> >>> >>>JC's name is "Toad"? I thought that was me. We use the rules of >>>Congress here on RMGD; if a members name is used in a discussion the >>>member has a point of personal privilege and is allowed to respond. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Sherry and I aren't at odds, we're discussing. >>> >>> >>>>I didn't say anyone was at odds with anyone else. >>> >>> >>>You said I was a know it all lecturing a mom. That implies that Sherry >>>didn't want to hear what I had to say. I think she was just fine reading >>>what I had to say. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I said you and JC are being contentious Usenet >>>>know-it-alls and Sherry has every reason to take >>>>umbrage at that. Not that she should or even would, >>>>just that if she did she'd have every right. >>> >>> >>>Glad to hear I'm not at odds. Sherry took no umbrage at my posts. > > >>Good cop, bad cop. ;-) > > > > Inadvertent, but yeah, kinda. > > I'm just nicer than you JC. > > Either that you don't need as much acceptance and validation as I do. *LOL* I'm actually pretty good natured and well mannered in the real world Toad. I don't like offending people face to face. I mean, ask Joe! Oh, well he might not be the best reference. (jus' kiddin' Joe...ain't America great!) But then again, I don't discuss this kind of stuff (politics, religion, morals, ethics, art, etc.) except with those people who aren't so easily offended (not talking about anyone here necessarily) and they would have to be interested in discussing these topics, which are very few people I find. I also find that a lot of women simply don't like debate for whatever reason, at least with men. Fortunately for me, my wife is on the intellectual side, so she enjoys a good discussion and she's a heck of a lot smarter than me. And the one person I debate with most is my best friend's (old high school Deadhead partner in crime) wife and we have blast. Always fun. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Dickey Betts tonight! Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:49:13 GMT wrote in message news:1127439428.949733.159410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Anyway, if any other folks are going, I'll be the gray-haired guy with > the blue Kimock/Zero t-shirt on. * Hey Larry....you ever gonna wash that thing? I meant the t-shirt. Hippies. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:57:16 -0400 JC Martin wrote: > The politicians in California are by and large a bunch of > egomaniacs who get little done other than wasting taxpayer > dollars And this is different from politicians elsewhere...how? -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Chicago Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:02:17 -0700 The club Fred Anderson owns is the Velvet Lounge. It is open, at least according to the website: http://www.velvetlounge.net/ Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "pbleers@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: Chicago Date: 23 Sep 2005 08:53:35 -0700 To my knowledge, the Empty Bottle never closed. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Chicago Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:04:07 GMT pbleers@hotmail.com wrote: > To my knowledge, the Empty Bottle never closed. I'm sorry, I meant the Velvet Lounge, which was moved and is under construction. http://www.velvetlounge.net/ Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:09:47 -0700 Absolutely my bad!!!! Snip from Docs retraction: I did not write the email about the Brown Convention Center, but I did receive it and did forward it to several friends. The forwarded message included my signature block and that's why it was assumed that I wrote the email. However, in forwarding the message, I made a very bad error in judgment, and I deeply apologize for any hurt or discomfort I've caused others by doing so. I sincerely concurr... pv34pv3p ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Republican Bush Bashing! Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:17:39 -0400 leftie wrote: > pv34pv3p wrote: > [snip] > > This just in.... > > In an unprecedented development today, a Bush apologist did not try to > change the subject to "liberals" when presented with criticism of the > president. > > Oh wait. Never mind. That didn't happen. He did try to change the > subject, after all. > > We now return you to your regualrly scheduled newsgroup. Heh. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Chicago Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:16:26 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >> Hey now. >> >> My wife is going to Chicago this next week on business. I know there >> a few Chi Cats out there. Any good music, hangs? One of you must >> know about Fred Anderson's Empty Bottle. Has that club reopened? > > > Check out the _Reader_ for music etc. > > http://www.chicagoreader.com/ Oh cool. Thanks Ken. I see one of my wife's favorite bands already and I'm reeeeal jealous. Vandermark 5 Empty Bottle 1035 N. Western: Wed 9/28, 7 PM 773-276-3600 or 866-468-3401. She's there. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:21:41 -0700 Thank you! .. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:21:11 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > Absolutely my bad!!!! > > Snip from Docs retraction: > > I did not write the email about the Brown Convention Center, but I did > receive it and did forward it to several friends. The forwarded message > included my signature block and that's why it was assumed that I wrote > the email. However, in forwarding the message, I made a very bad error > in judgment, and I deeply apologize for any hurt or discomfort I've > caused others by doing so. > > I sincerely concurr... Ship his ass off to BUMtown!! Mark ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: odd FLAC problem. Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:23:08 -0400 Steve Terry wrote: > "rcb30" wrote in message > news:1127439119.313665.244790@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Nevermind, I got it. Sorry, been a long day. As you were. > > > Getting a new computer always makes for a long day in my opinion. > > Yeah, computers were better in the 70's. (well, maybe not). db ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Voting with the dead. (some dead content) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:33:42 -0400 ba ba booie wrote: > At a news conference at the State House, Tom Wilson, the state's > party chairman, took pains to say that the analysis did not look at > voters' party affiliation. Of course not. If it is not revealed that they all "voted" Republican, then the Republicans can take credit for "discovering" the scam and "protecting the electoral process"... -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:33:49 GMT Rogues Island's finest wrote: > pv34pv3p wrote: >> >>I sincerely concurr... > > Ship his ass off to BUMtown!! Here's part of what alphabet soup boy snipped from the good doctors apology: =========================================================== I've learned a hard and difficult lesson and I hope those of you who read this have also. Too much of what we all mindlessly forward through cyberspace can only be termed fictious, unsubstantiated trash. The appropriate receptacle is a garbage can. =========================================================== Apparently alphabet soup boy doesn't sincerely concurr with *that* sentiment since alphabet soup boy is the nitwit who mindlesssly trolled that bit of unsubstantiated trash through our little slice of cyberspace. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Dickey Betts tonight! Date: 23 Sep 2005 16:34:34 GMT Dave Kelly wrote: > * Hey Larry....you ever gonna wash that thing? > I meant the t-shirt. > Hippies. Well, as Larry and I shared some Geraldine and some Mountain Girl (viva the Green Cross), and while Dickey Betts gave us an excellent Allman Brothers show, I saw fat boys...and I mean Fat Boys...and I wondered which of them was Dave Kelly. Joe ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: rock star (ndc) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:43:54 -0400 leftie wrote: > Rupert wrote: > > Cherie keeps watching the Brady show, I have to leave the room > > every time she does. All I can think of when I hear that girl whine > > is "man, I hope he doesn't have a pet rabbit". > > Live bunnies are an *excellent* source of nutrition! And Satan is generally misunderstood! -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: Dickey Betts tonight! Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:37:50 GMT Joe wrote: > Dave Kelly wrote: >>* Hey Larry....you ever gonna wash that thing? >> I meant the t-shirt. >> Hippies. > > Well, as Larry and I shared some Geraldine and some Mountain Girl (viva > the Green Cross), and while Dickey Betts gave us an excellent Allman > Brothers show, I saw fat boys...and I mean Fat Boys...and I wondered which > of them was Dave Kelly. I thought he always traveled with a sherpa carrying a keg of Coors Light ? That'd be pretty hard to miss. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:40:00 -0700 My cut on it: No one could be worse than Grey Davis. That guy caused my company's manufacturing to move out to Houston and we lost hundreds of jobs here because he wouldn't even return a phone call. Davis was a "professional politician" that never really worked at a real job in his live. Arnold is "interesting" and believe it or not, has some credibility. However, he is severely disliked by the unions here and the folks working on the government dole. Personally, I know many state employees and they often joke at "acting like a state employee" (ie: avoiding work). My SO works for the state FWIW so I get a lot of inside info. It's impossible to have one person please anyone as a politician. I realize I'll probably get flamed from the liberal in this group in saying so but Arnold really is a practical person with it comes to examining our income vs expenses (he came out here once and showed a simple .ppt slide graphing the reality). People tend to get very emotional regarding state budgets and if they'd simply look at the nubmers, a sense of reality would set in. YMMV. b. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: George Busch drinking......AGAIN..... Date: 23 Sep 2005 16:43:47 GMT Thinking back on another mass murdering, power-drunk Republican Presidential liar, scumbag and all around Criminal Fascist Monster, I wonder if Bush is getting shit-faced, and then praying at the portrait of Richard Nixon? "Condi. Down on your knees, bitch, and let's pray that Jesus saves our genocidal asses." Joe ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Republican Bush Bashing! Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:43:29 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1127424154.817086.51960@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Rush is to NPR as Sean Hannity is to Meet the Press. It's a > > ridiculous comparison make by right wingers intent on inventing a left > > wing media bias. Unfortunately, those sorts of tactics work. The right has jammed the "liberal media" mythology down our throats so much and for so long now that many people now buy the concept that the "center" and the "truth" lies somewhere between Rush on the right and NPR on the "left", and between Sean Hannity on the right and Meet the Press on the "left". Air America (and Michael Moore), if nothing else, helps put things in proper perspective - with Rush/Hannity on the right, Air America/Moore on the left, and NPR/Meet the Press in the middle. > > Air America, on the other hand, is *exactly* like Rush, only on the > > other side. > > I will never understand the glee seen here whenever some left wing idiot > acts just like some right wing idiot. I see a few people here who are gleeful about the left wing media idiots, but no more so than the number of people here who are gleeful about the right wing media idiots. > I listen to stations on Itunes. I really like the Hawaiian and Turkish > ones. If you (or anyone else here) has an interest in good "alternative" electronica, check out SomaFM ( http://www.somafm.com/ ) - esp. their Groove Salad, Secret Agent, and Drone Zone stations. Good music to work to and to lounge to. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:43:40 -0700 Ken Fortenberry wrote: > John Hanson wrote: > > > > You know Carrie, I really enjoy most of your posts, and all of your > > attitude. But have you read the story lil' letters 34 posted in the "First > > Hand Account From A Friend" thread? I get the whole tweak the knee-jerk > > liberal thing, but this guy is less of a troll and more of a dumb-ass > > racist. YMMV. > > I agree with most of that, Carlisle's posts are for the most > part kinda cute, but as for alphabet soup boy why does being > a dumbass racist make him less of a troll ? Hell, if anything > being a dumbass racist makes alphabet soup boy a better troll. Probably just my own interpretation - I generally think of trolling as essentially ineffectual. You read it, you get annoyed at the provocative subject matter, and if you succumb to the temptation to respond, the troll wins that round. On to the next round. To my mind, however, when someone posts the kind of racist propaganda this genius was spreading it's not ineffectual because some folks are going to read it and believe it. Trolling is mostly harmless fun for dipshits. This kind of racism always has the capacity to be harmful. Didn't mean to sound so hi-falutin' here. Saint John H. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:43:51 GMT The Iron Muffin wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > > > >>The politicians in California are by and large a bunch of >>egomaniacs who get little done other than wasting taxpayer >>dollars > > > And this is different from politicians elsewhere...how? I don't know how different from state to state it is, but we've had a really bad run here in California. It's pretty sad watching a great state go down the tubes. From crime, to education, to useless programs, our state is sinking fast and all guys like Ahhhnuld care about is bringing down unions and re-districting. But yeah, California's ego is legendary and our politicians mirror that mind set. Lotta hypocrisy out here, not that there's isn't in other states. And the immigration/gang issue is way out of control. No politician out here is bold enough to tackle that. If it wasn't for San Francisco and Berkeley, I would have no reason to live here. I can find beautiful country up in Oregon. -JC ------------------------------ From: "pbleers@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: Chicago Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:47:34 -0700 Vandermark is great. One of the hardest working musicians in Chicago-the guy seems to play around town every nite of the week. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Nuke the hurricane! Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:50:50 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Steve Terry" wrote: > >>Is there any way that we can stop Rita before she makes landfall? I >>remember as a kid hearing about how the Russians were controlling the >>weather, and I now wonder if there is a way to control or weaken this >>hurricane. I guess the crux lies in the warm water temperatures in the >>Gulf. Dropping a bunch of ice cubes in the Gulf of Mexico is probably not >>feasible. Any ideas from you superbrains out there? > > Maybe Bush can just throw money at it. Oh he will, he will. It will be way too much and way too late and it will all be filtered through Haliburton, but he will throw money at it, rest assured. ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:45:01 GMT "JC Martin" > wrote in message I'm actually pretty good natured and well mannered in the real world Toad. I don't like offending people face to face. I mean, ask Joe! Oh, well he might not be the best reference. (jus' kiddin' Joe...ain't America great!) But then again, I don't discuss this kind of stuff (politics, religion, morals, ethics, art, etc.) except with those people who aren't so easily offended (not talking about anyone here necessarily) and they would have to be interested in discussing these topics, which are very few people I find. I also find that a lot of women simply don't like debate for whatever reason, at least with men. Fortunately for me, my wife is on the intellectual side, so she enjoys a good discussion and she's a heck of a lot smarter than me. And the one person I debate with most is my best friend's (old high school Deadhead partner in crime) wife and we have blast. Always fun. Peas, JC ********************* And the Chicago girls would love to have your wife over for some stimulating conversation! ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:49:26 GMT barry@psyber.com wrote: > My cut on it: No one could be worse than Grey Davis. That guy caused my > company's manufacturing to move out to Houston and we lost hundreds of jobs > here because he wouldn't even return a phone call. > > Davis was a "professional politician" that never really worked at a real > job in his live. > > Arnold is "interesting" and believe it or not, has some credibility. However, > he is severely disliked by the unions here and the folks working on the > government dole. Personally, I know many state employees and they > often joke at "acting like a state employee" (ie: avoiding work). My SO > works for the state FWIW so I get a lot of inside info. > > It's impossible to have one person please anyone as a politician. I realize > I'll probably get flamed from the liberal in this group in saying so but > Arnold really is a practical person with it comes to examining our income vs > expenses (he came out here once and showed a simple .ppt slide graphing the > reality). If he was practical, he wouldn't have wasted taxpayer dollars on a special election which emphasizes re-districting and union bashing. Not that these issues aren't up for debate, but a special election? Fuckin' idiot as far as I'm concerned. Just another greedy senseless asshole. His rhetoric and phony 5-minute at a time media sessions with special lighting are now legendary. So practical. #### BTW, I'm one of those people that would prefer a more conservative, budget-minded governor, but one who focuses on education (that's not an area to be cut, period), immigration, gang crime and economic opportunity. Ahhhnuld is no where near that guy. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:50:49 GMT "JC Martin" <> wrote in message She used her own kid's ADHD to put forth an absolute position which is false. Sorry, but when some makes a claim regarding brain scans that is false and then says, "I'M RIGHT", I KNOW", she's fair game. She started with the lecture. End of story. ************************************* And you know, you came into the conversation saying, "I have this, so I know" as well. You implied throughout the ENTIRE thread, that if she hadn't tried "your" way (diet, exercise etc) then she's somehow "less than" "less knowledgeable" because she didn't do it your way. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:58:42 -0400 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > I have no reason not to believe Sherry, she's obviously a good mom IMO. > But since I don't know her personally, I can't be absolutely certain of that. Rest easy, Toad. I have met Sherry and seen her interact with her kids. She's an AWESOME mom. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:59:41 -0700 JC Martin wrote about Ahhhnuld: > If he was practical, he wouldn't have wasted taxpayer dollars on a > special election which emphasizes re-districting and union bashing. Not > that these issues aren't up for debate, but a special election? Fuckin' > idiot as far as I'm concerned. Just another greedy senseless asshole. > His rhetoric and phony 5-minute at a time media sessions with special > lighting are now legendary. While this will happen regarding country music and jazz on a regular basis, it is exceedingly rare it will happen on the topic of politics. But JC Martin and I actually agree! "the devil's looking to rent some ice skates..." ;-) ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: odd FLAC problem. Date: 23 Sep 2005 09:52:57 -0700 Oh goodie. I've just ordered a new one and should have it sometime next week. I can guarantee some long nights as I try to move to the 21st century and start dealing with shns, FLACs, BTs, etc. Already readin' up on ".shn for dummies" and have some BT primer material from our own Band Beyond Description (thanks Steve) to plow through. You can be sure to see some purdy dumb questions from the east coast AFTER I return from Ohio (visiting the ole' rmgd squeeze again). Theresa ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .