From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #383 Dead-Flames Digest #383, Volume #48 Fri, 23 Sep 05 07:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years ("Carlisle") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Tom Beck) Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years ("pv34pv3p") Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years ("Carlisle") Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? ("pv34pv3p") Re: Dickey Betts tonight! ("pv34pv3p") NDC: Doug Killmer RIP ("alex sandoval") Re: ndc-just saw some lady on CNN, shes not evacuation galveston (Steve S) Re: ndc-hand washing post bathroom? (jrqbliss@hotmail.com) Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years (Shawn Lucas) Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Mmmmm...Playin' Mix (Kirk McElhearn) Re: Mmmmm...Playin' Mix (Kirk McElhearn) Re: Calling (band beyond description) Spare lanes ("Dave") Re: I love a good Franklins (Steve Lenier) Re: SKB - Coach House (Steve Lenier) Re: Autumnal Equinox Offer--Closed ("Richard Morris") Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? ("mjd") mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) (band beyond description) Re: George Busch drinking......AGAIN..... ("Stephen St.") Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? (Paul) Re: 1972 (Brad Greer) Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years ("pv34pv3p") Re: I love a good Franklins ("Greg Sasso") Re: Spare lanes ("pv34pv3p") ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? ("Stephen St.") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: 22 Sep 2005 21:47:42 -0700 pv34pv3p- How dare you come on a Grateful Dead newgroup and defend anything Bush, anything??!! You ignorant slut. (kudos to Dave Kelly for that mock slur) OK. I'm not consumed with hate, I'm too young and clueless to be that intelligent and deep. Over on RMP, I'm a clueless old hippie so I really can't win. But I'll tell you what, I'll give him a fair shake. How's that? ;} Keep it interesting. Trolls R People Too. Carrie ps-yes, I just corrected a grammar mistake. ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:00:23 -0500 JC Martin wrote: >>> No. It's called citing a source. Doesn't >>> mean the source is right, but at least it means >>> she didn't make it up. >> >> >> >> >> It'called citing a source??? What the heck are you talking about? > > > > She didn't cite a source. She made blanket statements about the media, > and then went to say that brain scans are the detection method for > diagnosing ADD/ADHD. > > Nuff said for the friggin' last time! Come at me one more time wid dat > boooolshit and there's gonna be drama, know what I'm sayin'? > Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight! > > -JC > *about to get drunk, turn on Dr. Phil and yell at my television screen* OK, Ok, so she didn't cite a *specific* source. But she did say where her information came from. Vague perhaps, but not without some worth. I suspect she'll name names if really required to do so. "Drama"? Give me a fucking break. Drama is what I live for. Tom ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: 22 Sep 2005 21:58:03 -0700 >ps-yes, I just corrected a grammar mistake Fearing the rath of Joe are ya now??? pv34pv3p(Be strong girl...It's only the 3 letter named hyenas that be troublin' ya...) ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: 22 Sep 2005 22:02:28 -0700 I should have put "young and clueless" in quotations. I'm way tired. Good night America. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 22 Sep 2005 22:08:28 -0700 The silence is deafening... pv34pv3p(word) ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Dickey Betts tonight! Date: 22 Sep 2005 22:10:00 -0700 Please post reviews! pv34pv3p ------------------------------ From: "alex sandoval" Subject: NDC: Doug Killmer RIP Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 05:51:15 GMT Legendary Bay Area bass guitar player passes away _____ Hello Readers... Doug Killmer, who played bass on the hit song "Spirit In The Sky" for Norman Greenbaum, and also played with Nick Gravenites (for over 30 years) and for John Cipollina, Mike Bloomfield, Otis Rush, William Truckaway, Russell DaShiell, Jesse Barrish, Austin DeLone, Blue Cheer, Commander Cody, Fish Stu, Barry Melton, Booker T Jones, Alice Stuart, Bobby Winkelman, The Stoval Sisters, and may others passed away on August 29,2005, he was 58 years young. There will be a memorial-tribute concert for him tomorrow night on September 22nd @ The Sweetwater in Mill Valley California. Showtime is at 9:00 PM. This is a celebration of Doug's life with some great musicians coming out to play and remember him. Members of Eggs Over Easy, Electric Flag, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Ace Of Cups, Moon Lighters, Commander Cody Band, Blues Project, Blue Cheer, Sopwith Camel, Frumious Bandersnatch, Steve Miller Band, Jefferson Starship, A B Skhy, Charlatans, Huey Lewis & The News and others will entertain us and themselves. If you were a friend of Doug's or fan of his music or a fan of some of the some of the groups mentioned above come out to remember Doug and listen to some great music. Call the Sweetwater in Mill Valley (415) 388-2820 for more information and ticket prices. Peace & Thank You ------------------------------ Subject: Re: ndc-just saw some lady on CNN, shes not evacuation galveston From: Steve S Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:10:50 -0500 "Stephen St." wrote in news:jmyYe.1011$G64.414@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com: > Talk about stupid and selfish. This 50 something lady was being asked > if she was gonna evac, and she said no. She also said a lot of her > friends arent gonna leave. When asked why(I yelled my answer for her- > "because Im stoooooooopid"), she said that she and her friends didnt > believe it was going to hit directly or very hard. > > I mean WTF? Not only is she stupid, but she went on TV to brag on her > stupidity. People never, ever cease to amaze me. > > Question to left coasters...if somehow they could forcast a 8.0 > magnatude quake was gonna hit near you, would you evacuate? > > If they're that selfish maybe her and her friends are staying behind to get a head start on the looting :) momma needs a new diamond ring... ------------------------------ From: jrqbliss@hotmail.com Subject: Re: ndc-hand washing post bathroom? Date: 22 Sep 2005 23:11:38 -0700 Look, Ghandi used to drink his own urine - a bit on my hands won't kill you or me - think of it as seasoning for your food. As far as I'm concerned, my dong is cleaner than the faucet that has been handled by hands that have touched a thousand dongs - some of whom were smokers no doubt. Fuck all that I say. I like the first guy that Smoked a cigarette to avoid shaking hands with somebody who might not have washed. Hey buddio - when you get a headache, do you get a friend to punch you in the balls? ------------------------------ From: slucas_2@ya_nospam_hoo.com (Shawn Lucas) Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:21:21 GMT On 22 Sep 2005 20:15:05 -0700, "pv34pv3p" wrote: >Dunno... > >Leave an address and someone will get back to ya... > >pv34pv3p > 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: First Hand Account From a Friend... Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:31:34 -0400 leftie wrote: > pv34pv3p wrote: > > > The following is a near verbatim account of one educated, caring > > > individual's account of their odyssey volunteering at a Texas refugee > > > shelter. > > Yeah, yeah, yeah. Educated people always use 'words' like 'unrational.' ....and they always use "where" when they mean "were". > And plus, since it was like BUM HEAVEN, it really should have "worked > out quite well for these people" since they were all [chuckle] > 'underprivileged anyway.' > > Doesn't everyone respond well to 'doctors' who want to give people a > 'warm fuzzy' and go to disaster victims because of 'curiousity?' LOL! > You can't even see the prejudice that guy brought with him to 'BUM > HEAVEN,' if that's even a true account, that is. (I doubt it.) You are not alone. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Mmmmm...Playin' Mix From: kirk@mcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:31:58 +0200 "Andrew Murawa" wrote: > > Wowza... I just listened to that Other One mix for the first time while > driving around the greater LA area today, and that is teeth-grindingly > good stuff... I can't wait to give this thing a spin on my home system > while checking out the track timings... > > As for the Playin' thing.... I'm always up for a 76-minute Playin'... I listened to the Playin last night - it's much better than the Other One mix, partly because TOO had a few segments with pretty low sound quality, which sound jarring after others that are good. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Mmmmm...Playin' Mix From: kirk@mcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:31:59 +0200 Josh wrote: > Popular opinion seems to be leaning towards Birdsong (which would be great > as well), but I want my day-long Dark Star! I vote for a very, very long Dark Star as well. :-) ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Calling Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:04:32 +0900 On 2005-09-23 05:16:37 +0900, "NJDaveK." said: > Steve, > Was having a problem with my outgoing email, I wanted to let you know > I am going to listen to the Dave Alvin disc tonight or tomorrow. If the > dropout is in my copy as well, I have another 2 discs Dave Alvin show > that you might be interested in. Let me know. I can recieve email in my > inbox, but it is not letting me send right now. > > Dave. Sounds great; thanks for going to all that trouble! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Dave" Subject: Spare lanes Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:15:53 +1200 Is there something huge that I am missing? I am weatching on tv a 160 mile tailback on the motorway in Texas. (Is that freeway?) On the other side of the motorway, as you'd expect in the circumstances, there's not enough traffic to fill one lane, and 2-3 empty lanes going begging to take some redirected traffic? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:21:37 -0700 Subject: Re: I love a good Franklins From: Steve Lenier in article 1127417740.463969.137100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, Carlisle at carrie-cox@insightbb.com wrote on 9/22/05 12:35 PM: > > Right now, I'm really groovin' on 11-14-73. I realize *it* doesn't get > any better than this. Jerry was making his guitar produce all different > tones and sounds. This show is simply inspiring. Here's the link that a > kind person threw me along with some better downloading info- > http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12132 > > It's that good- > cheers, > Carrie > That's one of my very favorite shows...the one before it and after it, and the whole several shows around it, is one of my favorite periods of Dead. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:44:37 -0700 Subject: Re: SKB - Coach House From: Steve Lenier in article 3pgvh0Fa369dU1@individual.net, Andrew Murawa at amurawa@hotmail.comspamsucks. wrote on 9/22/05 5:08 PM: > "Dave Kelly" wrote in message > news:ufBYe.1474$OC2.285@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> damn....we got us some whipped men on this chatgroup. >> "I MIGHT go"....."let me check with the decision maker"... >> "domestic harmony"...what HAPPENED to you men? >> The Master is playing. >> Nuff sed. >> You go >> You drink large amounts of alcohol. >> You ingest fungus. >> you grind on some hippie chick. >> you come home. >> it's THAT simple. >> KEE-RISTE....how much longer do I have to hold your hand? >> I'm disgusted. > > Hell yeah... Anyway, if John or Steve (or anybody else in the area) can > inconvenience (heh) themselves enough to show up, look me up and I'll > buy ya a beer or seven... > > oh sure, you say that knowing full well I have NO idea what you look like or how to find you. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: Autumnal Equinox Offer--Closed Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 04:06:06 -0700 SSIA, Thanks, R. "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:-9adnX2tXqBH1K7eRVn-jw@comcast.com... > Yep, it is the autumnal equinox ... moon has been full recently too! No > wonder folks are acting like road lizards on a hot highway around here ... > ahem! > > For those of you who are broadband impaired, I would like to celebrate the > equinox by inviting you to post nude pictures of yourselves. Uh, no ... > sorry, wrong newsgroup. Besides that is done on Beltain. Not the a.e. > > For those of you who are broadband impaired, here is the rmgd offer: pick > something on the archives that you would like to have. Anything at all. > I will download it for you, and burn to audio CDs. You provide the blanks > and the postage. > > Edit my email address, and email me your wish. I will take several. > > http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?PHPSESSID=251fc7153352578832e3e9b144fbfe0c > > I would also challenge other folks with broadband to make a similar offer > too. There are plenty here who can't download music, and would love to > have an autumnal treat. > > The Autumnal Equinox only comes once a year ... and needs to be celebrated > accordingly! > > Richard > > -- > Drop "trousers" to respond via email. > ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: 23 Sep 2005 05:04:33 -0700 well, give us a chance to wake up and get through our morning reading, for chrissakes. Thanks YoMama - excellent article about a fascinating and brilliant man. ....Yes, Virginia, we did actually have an intelligent president once. ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: mmmm...Chipmunk Fricassee (NDC) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:16:49 +0900 from the recipes section of the Web site of Southern Culture on the Skids www.scots.com CHIPMUNK FRICASSEE
2 pounds diced chipmunk (the legs are most of the meat but the breast is good if you have the patience)
minced garlic
chopped onion
hot peppers
Guinness stout
butter
hot pepper flakes
chicken or possum stock
peeled and quartered potatoes
This actually tastes a lot like chicken (but still with a difference). It's best made with Rocky Mountain chippers(East Coast chippies are too small) and perhaps served with a nice Sauvignon Blanc. Marinate the chipmunk meat in the garlic, onion, hot peppers, and Guinness. Saute in a skillet with butter, pepper flakes, and salt. Cook quickly until browned. Deglaze the skillet with the stock and put it all into a large saucepan or stockpot along with the marinade and the potatoes. Cover and bake at 275 degrees for two hours. Remove from the oven and, in a separate pan, reduce whatever marinade is left and whisk in six ounces of additional butter. Combine reduced marinade with chipmunk meat and serve. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: George Busch drinking......AGAIN..... Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:35:46 GMT "kwin buebly" wrote in message news:2sp6j19d425kb52aovmpjeuh8bbnpmhovn@4ax.com... > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:45:02 -0500, Uncle John wrote: > >>"drmz" wrote in news:1127428015.784413.68470 >>@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >> >>> looks like he's been doing some lines lately too with all the jaw >>> twitches lately during his speeches... can't imagine a coked up, drunk >>> Bush running around playing President... >>> >>> drmz >>> >> >>Funny thing, given the newsgroup, its hard to bust his and his daughters' >>stones for doing what many of us have, and in some cases, still do. The >>man >>has many faults, but give him slack when it ain't throwing stones at the >>glass house, especially when you're going on bullshit rumours. >> >>Now the deficit, that's something to crack on him... > > > As much as I detest Bush and what he has done to this country, > I am deeply saddened by the news that a fellow alcoholic has fallen > off the wagon. Is there any newlink to this story besides the rumor? I cant stand the guy, but this is pretty funny that a bunch of folks who have probably more substance history than most are quick to jump on a recovering alcoholic. I quit drinking 6 years ago and hope that Bush is sober. Shitty presidnent or not, the booze is bad for him and lots of us out there. ------------------------------ From: Paul Subject: Re: Can an impeached President run for office again? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:50:40 -0500 Reply-To: ppouliotnospam@mchsi.corn Yes, an impeached president can run again as long as their years served in office does not exceed the limits placed by the 22nd ammendment. BTW, Clinton was impeached, but not convicted. HTH, Paul On 21 Sep 2005 21:01:21 -0700, "YoMama" wrote: >Yes, I know - it's the Washington Post - but it's still an excellent >article. > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/21/AR2005092102036.html > >"The big surprise of Bill Clinton's Global Initiative conference at the >Sheraton Hotel in New York last week was how strangely calming it was." > > >Our country needs some "calm". ------------------------------ From: Brad Greer Subject: Re: 1972 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:16:50 -0400 On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:30:32 -0500, "Steve Terry" wrote: > >"Brad Greer" wrote in message: > >> I'd imagine you'd need a couple of DVDs to hold all of Europe '72, >> even in FLAC format. There were a good number of shows, and they were >> usually long shows to boot. > >Not if you edit out all of the Dark Star's, Playing in the Band's and Other >One's. > Why didn't I think of that? It sure would help solve the "where do I store all these damn discs" problem. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: People so Consumed by Hatred for W That They Haven't Had an Unpredictable Thought in 5 years Date: 23 Sep 2005 06:27:27 -0700 >1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 Hangin' with the Siddy Sheehan freaks huh? Figures... ------------------------------ From: "Greg Sasso" Subject: Re: I love a good Franklins Date: 23 Sep 2005 06:30:19 -0700 Andrew Murawa wrote: > "Greg Sasso" wrote in message > news:1127417887.010376.273730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > Carlisle wrote: > >> RickNBarbInSD wrote: > >> > RickNBarbInSD wrote: > >> > > Carlisle wrote: > >> > > > Joe wrote: > >> > > > > Well, around the time that the Dead introduced Lost Sailor, I > >> > > > > owned a 20 > >> > > > > foot sailboat on SF Bay, and even had a custom-made captain's > >> > > > > t-shirt that > >> > > > > read "Dead-A-Head." So, I had a special love of Lost Sailor. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > But, it was the 70s when I reached the height of my Dead, > >> > > > > ummm, err, > >> > > > > mania, so that when I look back now, 20something years later, > >> > > > > Lost Sailor > >> > > > > really was, just about, the high point of 80s Dead songs for > >> > > > > me. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Sorry, but after Keith and Donna, that Brent guy did nothing > >> > > > > for me. Nada. > >> > > > > Aside from some occassional Greek Theater Magic, it was all > >> > > > > 'downhill from > >> > > > > there.' > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Joe > >> > > > > >> > > > Now that's just so Old School. ;} > >> > > > Brent was the best harmonizer the boyz ever had- > >> > > > And he could work magic on the piano AND the organ. > >> > > > Not necessarily any better than the era you are promoting, just > >> > > > a > >> > > > different kind of magic. Do I have a second here?? > >> > > > p&l, > >> > > > carrie > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > You do have a second here for Joe and his Keith and Donna > >> > > era!!!!! ;D > >> > > > >> > > The Grateful Dead were NEVER "better" than those golden days for > >> > > me. > >> > > But, having said that I do indeed concur with you Carrie as far > >> > > as > >> > > "Brent...could work magic on the piano AND the organ. Not > >> > > necessarily > >> > > any better than the era you are promoting, just a different kind > >> > > of > >> > > magic." > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Hey Carrie, stay plush willya? ;D > >> > > > >> > > Rick > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Then again I am definitely "old school"!!!!! ;D > >> > > >> > > >> > Rick > >> > >> I'm considered Old School over on RMP, Rick. Friggin kidzz. > >> I was even called a "washed up old hippie" today. Thought you all > >> might > >> enjoy that one. > >> > >> Right now, I'm really groovin' on 11-14-73. I realize *it* doesn't > >> get > >> any better than this. Jerry was making his guitar produce all > >> different > >> tones and sounds. This show is simply inspiring. Here's the link that > >> a > >> kind person threw me along with some better downloading info- > >> http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12132 > >> > > > > The stretch of 11/11/73 - 11/21/73 might be my favorite in GD history. > > > > That could change in 5 minutes. > > I agree that this November '73 stretch is probably my favorite in GD > history, but I'm not so sure that there is a possiblity of that > changing... 11/11/73 through 11/21/73 might just be the highlight of all > of western civilization... Sometimes it's the 9/17 - 9/28/72 stretch. Probably tied in my book. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: Spare lanes Date: 23 Sep 2005 06:35:54 -0700 My brother went south to Matamoros...No traffic... He's prolly already swillin' cerveza on the beach... pv34pv3p(If you gotta be a sheep, might as well wear black...) ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: ndc-warren beatty to replace arnold? Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:00:32 GMT OAKLAND, Calif. - Actor Warren Beatty leveled a blistering political assault on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday night, accusing him of governing "by show, by spin, by cosmetics and photos ops." Beatty, a Democrat and longtime political activist who has been mentioned as a possible challenger to Schwarzenegger next year, did not announce his candidacy as many in the boisterous crowd had hoped. But he indicated he hadn't ruled out a run, and said he would continue to speak out on important issues." So, any of you folks from CA want to comment on this? I will say that the celebrity thing just doesnt work on a national level. See john kerrys attempt to use them to bet the vote in 04. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .