From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #374 Dead-Flames Digest #374, Volume #48 Thu, 22 Sep 05 12:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Sherry) Re: Brave New World (JC Martin) BT: Playing In The Band project. ("rcb30") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("peggo") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: 1972 (Brad Greer) Re: I love a good Franklins (Joe) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Jeff) Re: Brave New World ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Brave New World (Brad Greer) Re: Republican Bush Bashing! ("Ray") Re: Dickey Betts in SF (Joe) Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("frndthdevl") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Sherry) Re: Brave New World ("frndthdevl") Re: Dickey Betts in SF (leftie) Re: Dickey Betts in SF (Joe) Re: Dickey Betts in SF (Joe) Re: Dickey Betts in SF ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: 1972 (brew ziggins) Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("Carlisle") DYLANOLOGIST AJ WEBERMAN'S NEW BOOK ON DYLAN ("ARON KAY") Re: Dickey Betts in SF (leftie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like From: Sherry Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:56:38 GMT > Okay. > So is he aware that first you posted his medical information, and now you've > posted that he's a virgin? > Poor kid. > He's a 'topic'. I asked him. He asked: are there any cute girls on that list? I said: I don't know, haven't seen all that many pictures. Most seem to be guys, most of the women seem to be moms. He said: That's okay. I like kids. Sherry in Vermont ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:59:36 GMT Sherry wrote: >>There are a lot of options to try before drugs, some parents are just >>too impatient to try them and go right to the drugs, some kids just >>don't respond to anything except a drug and the parents give them >>ritalin rather than risk them becoming frustrated with their inability >>to concentrate (and learn) or act in a socially acceptable way. >> >>What bothers me is how often the drugs are tried before anything else, >>it has the makings of a giant conspiracy theory. > > > Again, I know of NO parent who leaps at the chance to drug their kid. We try > everything at hand, first. *LOL* Yeah, it's media conspiracy to make mothers all look lazy. Nutty. -JC ------------------------------ From: "rcb30" Subject: BT: Playing In The Band project. Date: 22 Sep 2005 10:57:48 -0700 Sorry if this is redundant, I'm viewing via Google ... RowJimmy, who did the recent Other One project, has struck again with a Playing In The Band Mix spanning 1971-89: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=18334 It's your standard 76:30 Playin'. Details below. I haven't heard it yet myself, but it's safely on the HD. Like last time, I will do a vine for a disc of the FLAC files if folks want to participate. Drop me a line if you're interested; I'll give this some time and meanwhile see if I can find anything else recent to include. - rcb =================================================================== Playin' In The Band -A Mix Performed by The Grateful Dead 1971 - 1989 Total Running Time - 01:16:30 00:00:00 > 00:00:21 'Dead Air' 1971-11-07 Harding Theater - San Francisco, CA 00:00:21 > 00:01:13 1971-04-05 Manhattan Center - New York, NY 00:01:13 > 00:01:32 1974-06-08 Coliseum Stadium - Oakland, CA 00:01:32 > 00:02:25 1979-12-28 Oakland Auditorium - Oakland, CA 00:02:25 > 00:02:53 1974-05-21 Edmundson Pavilion - Seattle, WA 00:02:53 > 00:08:58 1972-05-11 Rotterdam Civic Hall - Rotterdam, Netherlands 00:08:58 > 00:17:15 1973-11-17 Pauley Pavilion - Los Angeles, CA 00:17:15 > 00:24:56 1974-09-21 Palais des Sports - Paris, France 00:24:56 > 00:29:17 1989-10-16 Brendan Byrne Arena - East Rutherford, NJ 00:29:17 > 00:30:27 1973-11-17 Pauley Pavilion - Los Angeles, CA 00:30:27 > 00:36:25 1979-10-28 Cape Cod Coliseum - South Yarmouth, MA 00:36:25 > 00:47:00 1972-08-27 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds - Veneta, OR 00:47:00 > 00:49:53 1984-07-15 Greek Theater - Berkeley, CA 00:49:53 > 00:52:26 1974-07-19 Selland Arena - Fresno, CA 00:52:26 > 00:54:10 1972-11-18 Hofheinz Pavilion - Houston, TX 00:54:10 > 00:57:18 1972-10-09 Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA 00:57:18 > 01:00:17 1989-10-09 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 01:00:17 > 01:04:45 1973-05-26 Kezar Stadium - San Francisco, CA 01:04:45 > 01:09:45 1974-06-08 Coliseum Stadium - Oakland, CA 01:06:40 > 01:07:56 Loop * 01:09:45 > 01:13:43 1974-02-22 Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA 01:13:43 > 01:14:26 1989-10-09 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 01:14:26 > 01:16:30 1974-02-22 Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA * "Loop" consists of the following mixed together totaling 19s 429ms: 1971-11-07 - a segment from the middle AFTER the entire performance had been reversed and laid upon itself 1976-12-31 - short portion portion of the jam (the high guitar you might hear) 1971-04-05 - Theme post-verse 3 Loop is repeated just over 3 times slightly crossfaded into one another and played simultaneously with 1974-06-08 All sources are lossless and from archive.org/audio and are in compliance with the taping/trading policy of the band. This recording is not for sale. Mixed by rowjimmy. (2005-09-19) gd-playinmix.flac:888a18953fa1a2f99ef1aec0a524d6ef length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 6:30.70 809840684 --- -- ---xx gd-playinmix.flac 76:30.70 809840684 B (total for 1 file, 0.5458 overall compression ratio) ------------------------------ From: "peggo" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:03:16 -0500 "Sherry" wrote in message news:BF586894.5502E%sherry13@together.net... >> Okay. >> So is he aware that first you posted his medical information, and now >> you've >> posted that he's a virgin? >> Poor kid. >> He's a 'topic'. > > I asked him. He asked: are there any cute girls on that list? > I said: I don't know, haven't seen all that many pictures. Most seem to be > guys, most of the women seem to be moms. > He said: That's okay. I like kids. > > > > Sherry in Vermont > > He sounds like a good boy, Sherry. You must be doing something right. I'm always concerned when a parent posts personal information about their kids. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. peggo a mom. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:03:18 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >> Ken Fortenberry wrote: >> >>> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>> >>>> I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, >>> >>> >>> I wasn't offended by JC's remarks. I said he was out of >>> line for presuming to lecture a mother about her child's >>> health issues. And I'm right about that, you know ? >> >> >> No, you're wrong. That would only be the case if the mother didn't >> lecture others about her absolute 'rightness' (I'M RIGHT! I KNOW! >> YOUR INFORMATION IS FROM THE MEDIA!!) Nope. She started the lecture. > > > It is more than just a little bit presumptuous for a > couple of Usenet know-it-alls to lecture a Mom about > her own child's medical history and when the Usenet > tag team is as contentious as you and Toad I'd say > Sherry is entitled to some umbrage. She lives in the > situation, all you do is sit behind a keyboard and > pontificate about how much more you know about the > situation than she does. If I were in her shoes I'd > take umbrage too. She used her own kid's ADHD to put forth an absolute position which is false. Sorry, but when some makes a claim regarding brain scans that is false and then says, "I'M RIGHT", I KNOW", she's fair game. She started with the lecture. End of story. Anyway, I've had enough of this lunacy with the idea that it's a media conspiracy in which to paint mothers as lazy. Bizarre. Count me out. -JC ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:07:01 -0700 Sherry wrote: > > Okay. > > So is he aware that first you posted his medical information, and now you've > > posted that he's a virgin? > > Poor kid. > > He's a 'topic'. > > I asked him. He asked: are there any cute girls on that list? > I said: I don't know, haven't seen all that many pictures. Most seem to be > guys, most of the women seem to be moms. > He said: That's okay. I like kids. > > > > Sherry in Vermont I hope there isn't any personally identifiable information about him posted here. That would really suck. ------------------------------ From: Brad Greer Subject: Re: 1972 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:59:17 -0400 On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:52:10 -0400, Peter_Wimsey wrote: >Brad Greer wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:57:53 -0400, brew ziggins >> wrote: > >> I'd imagine you'd need a couple of DVDs to hold all of Europe '72, >> even in FLAC format. There were a good number of shows, and they were >> usually long shows to boot. >> >> Would still be an excellent set to have, though. > >Ya, does such a thing actually exist? A couple of years ago someone was vining a 25 DVD set of every '72 show in SHN format - I'd have to guess someone condensed out the Europe shows at some point. Foolishly, I didn't sign up for that vine. >For me, I'm concentrating on september 72 - got 9/10/72 from Archive and >this Strangest Story is bluesy! Jerry is hitting the sevenths like I've >never heard! Nothing wrong with getting all of September '72 either. When you're done, search out the Europe stuff as well (it is apparently mostly gone from archive but others still have it out there). ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: I love a good Franklins Date: 22 Sep 2005 18:07:34 GMT Well, around the time that the Dead introduced Lost Sailor, I owned a 20 foot sailboat on SF Bay, and even had a custom-made captain's t-shirt that read "Dead-A-Head." So, I had a special love of Lost Sailor. But, it was the 70s when I reached the height of my Dead, ummm, err, mania, so that when I look back now, 20something years later, Lost Sailor really was, just about, the high point of 80s Dead songs for me. Sorry, but after Keith and Donna, that Brent guy did nothing for me. Nada. Aside from some occassional Greek Theater Magic, it was all 'downhill from there.' Joe ------------------------------ From: Jeff Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:53:12 -0600 JC Martin wrote: > Questionnaires are in fact the #1 > diagnostic tool for diagnosing ADD, not brain scans. I thought they just checked to see if you could sit through an entire "SeaStones" performance without leaving the room. Anyone who makes it is labeled "AASD" (Acute Attention Surplus Disorder) ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:09:54 -0700 Brad Greer wrote: > No little child can ever be bored, > there's so much new to them every day," we were told by my > mother-in-law. Hey Brad, I worked with kids from 2-20 yrs old for roughly 20 years. I may not be the worlds foremost expert on child behavior/psychology, but with all deference to your mother-in-law, I'm here to tell you from direct experience: Little kids CAN DEFINITELY become bored!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: Brad Greer Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:20:12 -0400 On 22 Sep 2005 11:09:54 -0700, "RickNBarbInSD" wrote: > >Brad Greer wrote: > > >> No little child can ever be bored, >> there's so much new to them every day," we were told by my >> mother-in-law. > > > >Hey Brad, I worked with kids from 2-20 yrs old for roughly 20 years. I >may not be the worlds foremost expert on child behavior/psychology, but >with all deference to your mother-in-law, I'm here to tell you from >direct experience: > >Little kids CAN DEFINITELY become bored!!!!!!!!!!! ;D > I know it. My son gets bored lots of times, and he lets us know. I'm pretty sure he's typical in that regard. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Republican Bush Bashing! Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:24:52 -0700 DG wrote: > Glad to see the thinkers of the Republican party have woken up. > > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20050922.shtml "ASPEN, Colo. -- For two full days, George W. Bush was bashed. He was taken to task on his handling of stem cell research, population control, the Iraq war and, especially, Hurricane Katrina. The critics were no left-wing bloggers. They were rich, mainly Republican and presumably Bush voters in the last two presidential elections." Apparently BushCo's record of inexcusable incompetence has finally reached critical mass, at least amonsgt some free-thinking republicans. And apparently the Bush apologists here on rmgd missed the RNC memo that they won't get excommunicated from the party if they drop the blame-gaming and admit the obvious - that BushCo 'really screwed the pooch' in New Orleans (and Iraq). Ray ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: 22 Sep 2005 18:31:05 GMT I just called the box office (11:30AM) to ask if tonight's show was sold out. The guy said it wasn't, but he expected it would be. He said the box office is open now, until 6PM, then closed for 30 minutes, and re-opening at 6:30. He told me that if I was there at 6:30, there would be no problem. If I lived in SF, it'd be no big deal, but... Is anyone going by there this afternoon to buy a ticket? If so, could you pick me up one? Obviously, I'll give you the $25 cash, and introduce you to my friend Geraldine! I don't feel like hanging out there for 1.5 hours before the music starts. Especially considering that music never starts on time. Who wants to help a bro out? I'm joko@foxvalley.net And, Geraldine wants to kick your ass. Especially yours, Dave Kelly! Joe ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:31:03 -0700 Tom Beck wrote: > frndthdevl wrote: > > > > Tupac >>We gotta make a change... >>It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes. >>Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live >>and let's change the way we treat each other. >>You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do >>what we gotta do, to survive. > > > > Gee, Tupac sounds like he was a real nice guy. > > Tom yeah those are real evil words he wrote there ------------------------------ Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like From: Sherry Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:33:31 GMT > I hope there isn't any personally identifiable information about him > posted here. That would really suck. Not likely. I used to think his name was rather unique, but among kids his age, it's pretty common. Though, his pics are on my site as are pics of most of my family and friends from time to time, with their permission. Sherry in Vermont ------------------------------ From: "frndthdevl" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:33:56 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > Most teachers are very sensitive to criticism. > > EGBH most teachers are OVERLY sensitive to criticism. especially of their union lol ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:40:52 -0700 http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=sfbay&query=detail&event=615016 Joe wrote: > I just called the box office (11:30AM) to ask if tonight's show was sold > out. The guy said it wasn't, but he expected it would be. He said the box > office is open now, until 6PM, then closed for 30 minutes, and re-opening > at 6:30. He told me that if I was there at 6:30, there would be no > problem. > > If I lived in SF, it'd be no big deal, but... > > Is anyone going by there this afternoon to buy a ticket? If so, could you > pick me up one? Obviously, I'll give you the $25 cash, and introduce you > to my friend Geraldine! > > I don't feel like hanging out there for 1.5 hours before the music starts. > Especially considering that music never starts on time. > > Who wants to help a bro out? > > I'm joko@foxvalley.net > > And, Geraldine wants to kick your ass. Especially yours, Dave Kelly! > > Joe ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: 22 Sep 2005 18:40:40 GMT Plan B... If I don't get an e-mail by say, 2-3 PM, I'll just plan to arrive at the box office before 6, get a ticket, then go get something to eat. So, whether you help a bro out or not (with a ticket), Geraldine still wants to kick your ass. I'm wearing all blue today...blue jeans, blue t-shirt, blue ripped sweat-shirt. Oh, and a black SF Mime Troupe cap. If you want Geraldine to kick your ass, you know what to do. Joe ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: 22 Sep 2005 18:44:50 GMT leftie wrote: > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=sfbay&query=detail&event=615016 I checked that the other day, and copped a real attitude when I saw that it's almost a $7 service charge. I can deal with the $2 Virtuous fee, but not TicketWeb (owned by TicketBastard). You gonna be there tonight, Leftie? Joe ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:45:10 -0700 leftie wrote: > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=sfbay&query=detail&event=615016 Ok, who else already knows Joe's response to this one? Mark ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: 1972 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:48:22 -0400 Thus spake hayman@nospam.duke.edu... > Brad Greer wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:57:53 -0400, brew ziggins > > wrote: > > > I'd imagine you'd need a couple of DVDs to hold all of Europe '72, > > even in FLAC format. There were a good number of shows, and they were > > usually long shows to boot. > > > > Would still be an excellent set to have, though. > > Ya, does such a thing actually exist? Ted offered up this B&P, like a week ago http://www.ogre.net/tthomas/stuff/gd/europe72.txt -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: 22 Sep 2005 11:54:51 -0700 Sherry wrote: > in article 1127366026.847104.4610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, Carlisle at > carrie-cox@insightbb.com wrote on 9/22/05 1:13: > > > > > frndthdevl wrote: > >> RickNBarbInSD wrote: > >>> volkfolk wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Life is NEVER a level playing field. > >>> > >>>> Scot > >>> > >>> > >>> The Way It Is > >>> > >>> Bruce Hornsby > >> > >> Tupac > >>> > >>> > >>> Standing in line marking time, waiting for the welfare dime > >>> 'Cause they can't buy a job > >>> The man in the silk suit hurries by as he catches the poor ladies' eyes > >>> Just for fun he says "get a job" > >>> > >>> > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Some things will never change > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Ah, but don't you believe them > >> > >> Come on come on > >> I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself, > >> "Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?" > >> I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black. > >> My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch. > >> Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he's a > >> hero. > >> Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on > >> the welfare. > >> First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers. > >> Give 'em guns, step back, and watch 'em kill each other. > >> "It's time to fight back", that's what Huey said. > >> 2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead. > >> I got love for my brother, but we can never go nowhere > >> unless we share with each other. We gotta start makin' changes. > >> Learn to see me as a brother 'stead of 2 distant strangers. > >> And that's how it's supposed to be. > >> How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me? > >> I'd love to go back to when we played as kids, > >> but things change, and that's the way it is. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> They say hey little boy you can't go where the others go > >>> 'Cause you don't look like they do > >>> Said hey old man how can you stand to think that way > >>> Did you really think about it before you made the rules > >>> He said, Son > >>> > >>> > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Some things will never change > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Ah, but don't you believe them > >> I see no changes. All I see is racist faces. > >> Misplaced hate makes disgrace for races we under. > >> I wonder what it takes to make this one better place... > >> let's erase the wasted. > >> Take the evil out the people, they'll be acting right. > >> 'Cause mo' black than white is smokin' crack tonight. > >> And only time we chill is when we kill each other. > >> It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other. > >> And although it seems heaven sent, > >> we ain't ready to see a black President, uhh. > >> It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact... > >> the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks. > >> But some things will never change. > >> Try to show another way, but they stayin' in the dope game. > >> Now tell me what's a mother to do? > >> Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you. > >> You gotta operate the easy way. > >> "I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way. > >> Sellin' crack to the kids. "I gotta get paid," > >> Well hey, well that's the way it is. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Well they passed a law in '64 to give those who ain't got a little more > >>> But it only goes so far > >>> Because the law don't change another's mind when all it sees at the > >>> hiring time > >>> Is the line on the color bar > >>> > >>> > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Some things will never change > >>> That's just the way it is > >>> Ah, but don't you believe them > >> We gotta make a change... > >> It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes. > >> Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live > >> and let's change the way we treat each other. > >> You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do > >> what we gotta do, to survive. > >> > >> And still I see no changes. Can't a brother get a little peace? > >> There's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East. > >> Instead of war on poverty, > >> they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me. > >> And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do. > >> But now I'm back with the facts givin' 'em back to you. > >> Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up, crack you up and pimp smack you > >> up. > >> You gotta learn to hold ya own. > >> They get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone. > >> But tell the cops they can't touch this. > >> I don't trust this, when they try to rush I bust this. > >> That's the sound of my tune. You say it ain't cool, but mama didn't > >> raise no fool. > >> And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped & I never get to lay > >> back. > >> 'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs. > >> Some buck that I roughed up way back... comin' back after all these > >> years. > >> Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat. That's the way it is. uhh > > > > Funny. > > Funny? I think it's.... unbearably sad. > > Sherry in Vermont Sherry in VT- It's just so so so *rap*, that's all. "Rat-a-tat-tat-tat. That's the way it is. uhh" Too much of life is...unbearably sad, as you say. Humor is the best medicine oftentimes. Carlisle in KY ------------------------------ From: "ARON KAY" Crossposted-To: rec.music.beatles,alt.thebird.hippie,uk.music.folk Subject: DYLANOLOGIST AJ WEBERMAN'S NEW BOOK ON DYLAN Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:51:40 GMT The Yippie Museum Press presents THE DYLAN TO ENGLISH DICTIONARY http://www.booksurge.com/product.php3?bookID=GPUB03733-00001 Description: Translation of 600 words in the poetry of Bob Dylan based on the Dylanological Method. Compiled by A.J. Weberman, Dylanologist, who went through Dylan's trash and invented the science of Garbology. Read a Sample ============================================================================ ---- Related Categories: LITERARY CRITICISM & COLLECTIONS / General MUSIC / Rock POETRY / Single Author / American ============================================================================ ---- ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: Dickey Betts in SF Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:58:39 -0700 Joe wrote: > You gonna be there tonight, Leftie? Nope... gots to work late. 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