From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #369 Dead-Flames Digest #369, Volume #48 Thu, 22 Sep 05 07:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) ("Schmoe") Re: rock star (ndc) ("Schmoe") Re: ndc-Katrina, Rita, Bush, Rove..its all a conspiracy. ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Stephen St.") Re: rock star (ndc) ("Schmoe") Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) ("Stephen St.") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? ("Stephen St.") Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("Stephen St.") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: rock star (ndc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Ken Fortenberry) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (The Lord of Eltingville) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:42:48 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:g9udnSAtQrTpfazeRVn- > Is this proof of Toad's assertion that it is all societal? If I said that, I didn't mean it. After I posted my list of causes, others pointed out that the food kids eat must play a part in all this, it just has to. I agree. EGBH ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:48:48 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "JC Martin" wrote in message > news:6IkYe.199$u8.3480@typhoon.sonic.net... > >>Carlisle wrote: >> >>>JC Martin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Dylanstubs wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Sort of like trying to explain why the Spring '77 tour doesn't do much >>>>>for you. :) >>>> >>>> >>>>But see, I'm with Toad. These conversations/debates can lead to a lot >>>>of useful information if people are willing to let their guard down, >>>>take a little heat and respectfully disagree. I know it's hard, but >>>>damn, I learn most of the good stuff in life out of conflict. We don't >>>>all admit it at the time, but these debates dip into a great well of >>>>life experience and fill our cups if we're thirsty enough. >>>> >>>>-JC >>> >>> >>>Well said, JC. >>> >> >> >> >>Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe even >>weeks after today. ;-) Remember what I told you? RMG never remains >>static. Never. Old alliances and friends become enemies. Enemies become >>friends. Another bright and sunny, yet paradoxical day here in digital >>space. >> >>Ain't Usenet great? >> >>-JC > > > > I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, yet > acted as if he were being unjustly treated when he made crude sexual > comments about a toddler when another RMGD mom shared her kids with friends > here on the group. Yeah, that was pretty funny and most definitely hypocritical, but I didn't want to get to sidetracked by it. I'm serious about this shit. Sherry thinks the conversation is all about her and that I somehow must get satisfaction out of being an asshole to her. Not the case. This is an issue I really care about, not an issue I learn about via the media. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:51:22 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:KfKdnXfkTPa9TazeRVn-rA@comcast.com... > > "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message > news:skgYe.271$aB1.2717@eagle.america.net... > > snip >> Maybe your kid is one of the tiny number of kids who actually do have a >> medical problem and need to be drugged up so they don't burn down the >> house. > Maybe? Maybe you have missed the posts where she described the behaviors > she was seeing. Yes, a definite maybe. I have no reason not to believe Sherry, she's obviously a good mom IMO. But since I don't know her personally, I can't be absolutely certain of that. Hence the qualifier. >> The vast majority of kids being drugged up into nice little robots are >> drugged so society doesn't have to deal with that dreaded word: >> individuality. All kids must be exactly alike, so the school and daycare >> bureacracies can treat them all exactly the same. Its easier and cheaper >> than dealing with actual humans with their own personalities. >> >> This phony illness is caused by adults who have created a vacuous, >> shallow, incredibly fast paced world for kids to live in. A world in >> which parents are mostly absent, and expectations are appallingly low. >> >> I don't get how literally no one had any of these phony illnesses created >> by doctors and drug companies when I was a kid, and now most kids are all >> suddenly "sick", in need of mind altering drugs to function. > This is all very romantic, but there is one problem with your theory. > > Ritalin, and the other meds that are used to control ADD are stimulants > ... amphetamine-like drugs. > > Kids who take these meds who do not have ADD get wired just like you or I > would on a cross-top. Kids with ADD experience the paradoxical effect: > they slow down, discrimate, focus better. Why? Because giving antsie kids amphetamines makes them drugged up zombies? These are kids, they aren't fully developed yet. If ADD was as prevalent as you seem to believe, why WOULD kids improve when given amphetamines? No one seems to know, hence my concern. > This implies that there is indeed something going on with those kids. I > don't think your romantic theory about ruthless parents and institutions > out to drug the spirit out of kids tells the whole story. What I want to > understand is why there are so many kids out there who are experiencing > the symptoms that they are. All of the causes I mentioned previously, plus the fad of parents taking their kid to a shrink every time he acts out. > They aren't just free spirits, Toad. My gut tells me that there are > environmental factors ... but I am not a researcher. Bad parents, bad schools, bad societal values, and bad food are environmental factors. You don't treat those with drugs. EGBH ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:54:03 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe even >>weeks after today. ;-) > > I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, I wasn't offended by JC's remarks. I said he was out of line for presuming to lecture a mother about her child's health issues. And I'm right about that, you know ? > yet > acted as if he were being unjustly treated when he made crude sexual > comments about a toddler when another RMGD mom shared her kids with friends > here on the group. Cassie Carlise the Kentucky Cracker said she was a whore and then posted a link. All I said was, "How much for the little girl." Caused me to LOL at my own wit, now you can say my "wit" is nit, half or fuck, but you can't say I made crude sexual comments about Carlisle's toddler. Unless you've got some sort of stick up your butt. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:58:56 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:UK-dnQ7ka_ViTKzeRVn-sA@comcast.com... > > "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message > news:ILgYe.275$aB1.2607@eagle.america.net... > > snip > >> Just because your kid may be one of the few is no reason for you to >> behave as if this current practice of drugging up every 4th or 3rd or 2nd >> kid is the greatest thing since sliced bread. > Where did you get this information??????? > > I work in a school with 2,800 students. Of that group, about 70 have > accommodation plans for one sort of disability or the other (not including > traditional learning disabilities). Of that group, I would guesstimate > that about half of those have been diagnosed with ADD. Of that group of > 35 students, I would guesstimate that maybe two thirds are medicated. But > even if it is the entire group, that represents a little over 1.5% of the > students. Where did you get the idea that every 4th kid is being doped? I didn't make that claim. As always, I happily use hyperbole when making a point. There is plenty of readily available information about the huge numbers of kids on Ritalin. If there weren't, they wouldn't be selling so much of it. Does every parent who needlessly drugs up their kid tell you about it? Isn't medical information still confidential to some degree? I would think if a bad, lazy parent had their kid on Ritalin just so they didn't have to deal with their energy they might not ask for an "accomodation plan", thereby bringing their situation to your attention. You get excited about this issue because someone always talks about bad schools being a cause, which they are. Many schools are just terrible. EGBH ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:01:26 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > >>> >>> Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe >>> even weeks after today. ;-) >> >> >> I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, > > > I wasn't offended by JC's remarks. I said he was out of > line for presuming to lecture a mother about her child's > health issues. And I'm right about that, you know ? No, you're wrong. That would only be the case if the mother didn't lecture others about her absolute 'rightness' (I'M RIGHT! I KNOW! YOUR INFORMATION IS FROM THE MEDIA!!) Nope. She started the lecture. I countered her argument, as did others. Frankly a good portion of people here don't agree with her line of reasoning. Has nothing to do with her parenting skills, but the logic she uses in formulating her opinions and the misinformation she put out regarding brain scans. I obviously don't know whether she's a good mother or not. I'll trust that she is, and that she's seemingly put a lot of effort into helping her child. But as Toad said, I can't be 100% certain of that just because someone says so. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:09:25 -0700 "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message news:3per02Fa5580U1@individual.net... > > "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message > news:3pddk4F9rt28U2@individual.net... >> >> and of course I don't mean to disparage or minimize the impact of >> individual, specific cases, such as Sherry's experience; I'm just >> speaking to the wider U.S. phenomenon of debatable drugging/diagnosing >> of kids who may not need what is being pushed on them by "experts." > > > and here's yet another daily example of a pharmaceutical industry race to > push new drugs of debatable necessity onto the populace -- > > bc-lunesta > (ndy) (ATTN: Financial, News editors) > //New Sleeping Pill Gets Push// > By Kathleen Kerr > (c) 2005, Newsday > > > For weeks now, a moth glowing green as the Emerald City in ``The > Wizard of Oz'' has been flitting across TV screens - promising > insomniacs a sleep to rival Dorothy's rest in the poppy field. > > The moth is the symbol for Lunesta, the new sleeping pill launched > earlier this year by Massachusetts-based Sepracor Inc. with a $60 > million advertising campaign. > > Like Dorothy's wizard, the Lunesta moth has kept a few things close > to the vest - including some Food and Drug Administration reviewers' > initial concerns that the drug might pose a cancer risk. All these ads that promote a pill as the answer to everything are one reason why so many kids are on Ritalin. But I don't get why these ads are so successful. The stuff at the end.......... "side effects may include trouble breathing, sexual dysfunction, incontinence, gingivitis, left side paralysis and lymphoma". Hell if I want any of these little purple pills............ EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:04:52 -0700 "Tom Beck" wrote in message news:433236D8.2050201@pclink.com... > Richard Morris wrote: > >> "Tom Beck" wrote in message > > >>>I know it sounds a bit harsh, and probably it's >>>too late now, but when I was a much younger asshole >>>I learned that a father's belt, though usually used >>>to hold his pants up, can be put to other uses. > > > >> Gawd. Tom, we are talking about people who appear to lack impulse >> control, or organizational skills, and there is nothing they can do about >> it. You are suggesting beating them? > > I sincerely try not to tell others what to think or > do. If I came across that way "Then what we got here, > is a failure to communicate." I was a jerk shit young > asshole when I had less years. It worked on me, that's > all I know for sure. > >> >> I have a young man right now who may be experiencing a mild form of >> inattentive ADD. I asked him what it was like in the classroom for him, >> and he described fairly frequent periods where he simply "fogs out" ... >> his mind wanders, he loses track of his surroundings, he misses stuff the >> teacher is talking about. > > > I had a similar problem. Nowadays I think too much pot > smoking in the parking lot was part of the problem. > > > I picked up his story and asked him if he ever experienced >> certain things that other kids diagnosed with ADD have described, and he >> burst into tears! I asked him what was making him cry and he said it was >> the first time anyone ever seemed to understand what he experiences. His >> father just thinks he is lazy. > > > That was my problem, in a nutshell. Lazy dip shit. > > Tom I have a friend whose new husband supposedly has ADHD. He was diagnosed by a doctor and put on some drug of some kind. His symptoms? He can't balance a checkbook, spends money he doesn't have, and drives his wife crazy with forgetting to bring things home from the store. Insetad of simply recognizing that she married a typical guy, she takes him to a doctor and drugs him up! This is what I'm talking about. Every flaw, every failure, is now chalked up to some mental illness and obviously a powerful mind altering drug is the answer. The doctor was apparently quite eager to diagnose and prescribe. He still forgets the bread and still spends money on porn DVD's. EGBH ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:05:22 -0400 the.stugots@gmail.com wrote: > A song about tragedy narrowly averted... > > Nice landing dude! > > I wonder if they stop drink service the moment > the red flag goes up... > > Do they allow you to smoke? > > Did anyone have emergency sex? > > These are the questions I must ask... As a pilot, I can tell you that landing gear issues very rarely end with injuries or deaths. It's really not that big a deal. There may be some aircraft damage but almost always nothing more. The media, oddly enough, plays these things up like it's a distaster waiting to happen. Couldn't be further from the truth. ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: rock star (ndc) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:08:36 -0400 pookietooth wrote: > > I was surprised to see Navarro involved. Maybe he just wanted some > face time with Brooke Burke. Nah, he just wants to continue his media separation from JA. Pathetic. Truly pathetic. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-Katrina, Rita, Bush, Rove..its all a conspiracy. Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:11:44 -0700 "Stuknot" wrote in message news:1127342419.050987.223930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Ken Fortenberry wrote: >> Stephen St. wrote: >> > Hows this one for ya? >> > >> > Bush and Co. saw Katrina coming and said "lets not respond in a timely >> > manner", that will enrage everyone! ... >> >> Live bunnies are an *excellent* source of nutrition !! > Don't tell Toad - he'll be running around Oregon biting the heads off > live bunnies every spare moment. He hates bunnies, you know. The memories some people have............ Saw two the other day by my deck. Unfortunately their most prominent physical features were their ears and not their breasts......... EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:12:00 GMT "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message news:hvxYe.322$aB1.2935@eagle.america.net... > That's my whole point. Nothing wrong with a little anger. > I disagree. Why waste the energy in getting "angry"? Use it somewhere useful, like getting even with the person(s) who made you almost angry? :) ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: rock star (ndc) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:11:19 -0400 Rupert wrote: > I only regret that I can't devote even less time to reality TV than I > do now. > > The only show I do watch (besides Cops), is The Surreal > Life...occasionally. It's great to watch washed-up hack stars fight > with each other like they're still somebody! But put "real" people in > a contest against each other and I couldn't give a rat's ass, > especially if it's a bunch of pretty twenty-somethings who all think > their shit doesn't stink. I feel identically to that description. But I don't watch Cops but very occassionally. Growing Up Brady? A winner! I like my reality TV to be completely unreal. The HBO show The Comback started out slow but I stuck with it anyway and it got better. The final episode of the season was fantastic because of the truthful statement it made about Hollywood. The whole season really led up to that 1 show. Kind of like the last season of Curb where Larry was in The Producers and the season led up to the opening night (damn funny episode too). That one also made a helluva statement. ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:18:12 GMT "Schmoe" wrote in message news:s_xYe.922$dl2.584@fe08.lga... > > As a pilot, I can tell you that landing gear issues very rarely end with > injuries or deaths. It's really not that big a deal. There may be some > aircraft damage but almost always nothing more. I watched some channel and they had the pilot of that Souix City DC10 that lost its tail mounted engine and all hydrolic power back in the 80's. His landing was a miracle and some amazing skill by the pilots. Whoever was the newscaster asked him all kinds of questions that were just a joke ie: compare this to your landing mr haynes?...etc....You could just hear what this guy wanted to say..."I had no hydrolic fluid in my jumbo jet and we were doomed. This plane at worst will lose its nose gear and slide down the biggest runway in the west. Yes, many similiarities...lol > The media, oddly enough, plays these things up like it's a distaster > waiting to happen. That shouldnt be....lol ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:19:55 -0700 "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message news:LPxYe.738$i31.395@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > Cassie Carlise the Kentucky Cracker said she was a whore > and then posted a link. All I said was, "How much for the > little girl." Caused me to LOL at my own wit, now you can > say my "wit" is nit, half or fuck, but you can't say I made > crude sexual comments about Carlisle's toddler. Unless you've > got some sort of stick up your butt. Yeah, who would mistake a comment about buying a toddler to use for sex to be a crude sexual one? LOL.. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:22:48 GMT "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message news:3pfmplFa8r82U1@individual.net... > On 2005-09-22 11:06:12 +0900, "Neil X." said: > >> >>> Steve wrote: >>> >>> sounds like a Booie post...hee hee.. >> >> >> Uh, well, yeah, the style was deliberately an homage to booie. But the >> question is sincere. I really don't understand the appeal of gambling, >> so the casinos hold zero interest. I also don't much feel like >> spending $300 a night, or driving a long way after the show. Seems >> like I'm going to have to choose one or the other. >> >> Phil playing in a House of Blues, in a scummy casino city, it is gonna >> be a trip, though, no doubt about it. Even without the fractals. >> >> How many people does a House of Blues hold? The one in Boson couldn't >> have held more than 500. >> >> Peace, >> Neil X. > > never been to a House of Blues; my only casino experience was through the > psylly vortex of the 1983 Las Vegas Aladdin Theatre show, and other times > passing through the state of Nevada. the NV gambling scene is/was cheesy, > freaky and I'm also a gambling non-participant...but it was fun to see > Phil and entourage hit the casino before the show, and then view sparky > Deadheads at 3 a.m. after the show dancing to little I went to the 91-95 dead shows in LV. The 91 shows were day shows, so it was perfect. Day dosing and then as the sun went down, drive back into Vegas for mahem. God, 14 years ago.......waaaaaaaaaa ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:20:28 GMT "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:RISdne6TSIWXra_eRVn-2A@comcast.com... > > "king88uy7" wrote in message > news:1127350770.262801.24760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Richard Morris: >>>Gee. Something tells me that you are white. Very white. >> >> Whoa. There's nothing wrong with that, is there ? >> > > There is when you justify racism with the argument that life just isn't > fair, and there is no such thing as a level playing field, people aren't > equal, so accept it and get over it. Somehow I have a hard time thinking > that a person of color would advance that sort of argument. Nor would a > fair-minded white person. > > We like to assume that everyone has equal opportunity in this country, and > that we can eliminate injustice. At least some folks do. Others appear > to > be indifferent. I agree. But lets go a bit further-what about all the brothers and sisters outside of the US who have limited opportunity? Shouldnt we, as a world wide leader, try everything in our power to help them get ahead, or at least catch up? Why is it limited to just those lucky enough to live in the USA? ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:21:24 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message > news:LPxYe.738$i31.395@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > > >>Cassie Carlise the Kentucky Cracker said she was a whore >>and then posted a link. All I said was, "How much for the >>little girl." Caused me to LOL at my own wit, now you can >>say my "wit" is nit, half or fuck, but you can't say I made >>crude sexual comments about Carlisle's toddler. Unless you've >>got some sort of stick up your butt. > > > Yeah, who would mistake a comment about buying a toddler to use for sex to > be a crude sexual one? > > LOL.. Oh Kenny boy! ROTF! Good lord. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: rock star (ndc) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:24:45 -0700 "Schmoe" wrote in message news:%3yYe.924$dl2.275@fe08.lga... > Rupert wrote: >> I only regret that I can't devote even less time to reality TV than I >> do now. >> >> The only show I do watch (besides Cops), is The Surreal >> Life...occasionally. It's great to watch washed-up hack stars fight >> with each other like they're still somebody! But put "real" people in >> a contest against each other and I couldn't give a rat's ass, >> especially if it's a bunch of pretty twenty-somethings who all think >> their shit doesn't stink. > > I feel identically to that description. But I don't watch Cops but very > occassionally. Growing Up Brady? A winner! I like my reality TV to be > completely unreal. The HBO show The Comback started out slow but I stuck > with it anyway and it got better. The final episode of the season was > fantastic because of the truthful statement it made about Hollywood. The > whole season really led up to that 1 show. Kind of like the last season of > Curb where Larry was in The Producers and the season led up to the opening > night (damn funny episode too). That one also made a helluva statement. I have come to despise and avoid all reality shows........... except My Fair Brady. That Adriana is the hottest thing on two wheels. Why doesn't Peter just marry her! GOD, she is so sensual, even her childish crying tantrums are adorable. EGBH > ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:26:08 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: >>Cassie Carlise the Kentucky Cracker said she was a whore >>and then posted a link. All I said was, "How much for the >>little girl." Caused me to LOL at my own wit, now you can >>say my "wit" is nit, half or fuck, but you can't say I made >>crude sexual comments about Carlisle's toddler. Unless you've >>got some sort of stick up your butt. > > Yeah, who would mistake a comment about buying a toddler to use for sex to > be a crude sexual one? > > LOL.. It's all about context and humor, Toad. Maybe there's a pill for your stick problem. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:07:53 -0400 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > "Sherry" wrote in message > news:BF578A3E.54ECA%sherry13@together.net... > >> I find people who don't want to argue about important topics and defend > >> their views on said topics to be rather dull. > >> > >> Everyone wants to avoid anything that disturbs their little world view or > >> their idea of what their world should be like. Like a rambunctious kid. > > > Your address, Toad? > > > > Obviously, I enjoy conversation, as I do many things in life. Like > > rambunctious kids. ;P > > But I'm a foot loose and fancy free unmarried man, with a house full of > eager young strippers, drugs galore, cases of Wild Turkey in the pantry, and > more porn than anyone should be entitled to possess. Damn! No wonder everybody's gonna be happy... > You don't want your boy to stay here.............. time with me would be > far worse for him than his medication. ;-) > > EGBH ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .