From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #368 Dead-Flames Digest #368, Volume #48 Thu, 22 Sep 05 06:00:01 PDT Contents: mmmmm....petrodollars...(NDC) ("band beyond description") Jemimah Puddleduck ???? ("seraphim") Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page (Bill) Re: Hey New Guy! ("ggull") re-offer 7/23/77 JGB FLAC Permavine noBnoP ("ggull") Re: 7/23/77 JGB FLAC Permavine noB noP ("ggull") Re: Brave New World (JC Martin) Re: Brave New World (JC Martin) Re: Brave New World (JC Martin) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page ("Matt") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) 69 limited 10 cd set ~ ("Jay") Re: SKB - Coach House ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page ("mjd") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) ("Jay") Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? (band beyond description) Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? ("mjd") Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (JC Martin) Re: Brave New World ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like (Ken Fortenberry) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: mmmmm....petrodollars...(NDC) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:33:09 +0900 wonder how much Senor Unoballero used to get when he lived up in Alaska? --- US-OIL-ALASKA Each Alaskan resident gets 845-dollar oil windfall LOS ANGELES, Sept 21 (AFP-Jiji) - Residents of Alaska will get a financial windfall of 845 dollars each this year as the isolated US state spreads around revenues from its oil riches, officials said Wednesday. Alaska's Permanent Fund Dividend Division said on its website that this year's windfall would be distributed to almost all of the state's 603,000 residents under a complex caculation, which has seen the annual payout drop for the fifth straight year. ``The 2005 dividend amount is 845.76 dollars,'' the fund, a division of the state finance department, said. The dividend cheques are distributed every year from the Alaska Permanent Fund, an oil royalty account created in 1976 after oil was discovered on the freezing and rugged state's North Slope. Anyone who has lived in the state for more than a year is eligible for the payouts which have ranged from 1,900 dollars in 2000 to around 300 dollars in leaner years. Dividends are calculated through a formula that uses a five-year average of the fund's realised income, or cash income received in rent, bond interest and dividends as well as money derived from profits taken on the sale of investments. tq-ml/ceh/ US-oil-Alaska AFP 212054 GMT SEP 05 ------------------------------ From: "seraphim" Subject: Jemimah Puddleduck ???? Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:40:09 GMT Tuesday, October 18th, 9:30pm JOHN GINTY BAND 11:30pm JEMIMAH PUDDLEDUCK San Francisco's Jemimah Puddleduck includes some of the most sought after musicians, both live, and in the studio. Their "day jobs" with top touring acts prevent them from playing often together, so this quarterly collaboration is making a rare tour of the east coast to repay their loyal fans. JP is: Mark Karan (RatDog, The Other Ones) on guitar/lead vocals John Molo (Phil & Friends, John Fogerty) on drums (Grammy winner w/ Bruce Hornsby & The Range) JT Thomas (Bruce Hornsby) on keys (Grammy nominee this year with Bruce Hornsby) Bob Gross (Albert King, Delaney Bramlett) on bass/vocals http://www.joyouslake.net/ Friday, October 7th, 10:00pm NEW RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE The long-awaited return of The New Riders of the Purple Sage has fans in a psychedelic head spin. Original members David Nelson (guitar and vocals) and Buddy Cage (pedal Steel) along with Michael Falzarano (guitar, mandolin and vocals), Johnny Markowski (drums and vocals) and Ronnie Penque (bass and vocals) are on tour in the Tri-State area. Once called the greatest cosmic, psychedelic-country folk rock & roll band in the universe, the new lineup of NRPS will revive its legendary reputation in early October. Nelson and Cage have put together a smokin' band to perform its timeless music. ------------------------------ From: musicnostop@webtv.net (Bill) Subject: Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:59:48 -0400 <<<>>> Actually, The Lemon song is an amazingly direct copy (lyrics and music) of Howling Wolf's "The Killing Floor". You can find this version on Wolf's "The Real Folk Blues" record. This a great version worth seeking out. By the way, Hendrix performed The Killing Floor, and you can find it on the live cd's they released in the early 90's (The Hendrix concert was recorded way before Led Zep II came out). The one lyrical line in the Lemon Song "squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg" is a lift off a Robert Johnson lyric. A few other Led Zep songs which are either complete rip-offs of simply lyrical thefts are: Babe I'm Gonna Leave you In My Time of Dying (Leadbelly lyrics) Boogie With Stu Whole Lotta Love (Wllie Dixon Lyrics) When The Levee Breaks (Memphis Minnie) How Many More Times (Wolf's How Many More Years) That's certainly an incomplete list. The GD on the other hand, wrote their own versions of old tunes: Dupree's, Casey Jones, Stagger Lee, etc Bill WUSB's Local Live Radio Show website: http://community.webtv.net/musicnostop/THEMUSICNEVERSTOPS Local Live Show, Alt Thursday Nights 7 to 8 pm WUSB 90.1 FM, Stony Brook, NY Listen online at www.wusb.fm ------------------------------ From: "ggull" Subject: Re: Hey New Guy! Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:14:59 -0400 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:dgd4q2$174g$1@news.iquest.net... > Okay, mister smarty pants Lighting Designer, how many deadheads does it > take to change a light bulb? You can't change a lightbulb. The lightbulb has to change itself. Deadheads can only provide a safe environment for it to change. ------------------------------ From: "ggull" Subject: re-offer 7/23/77 JGB FLAC Permavine noBnoP Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:23:57 -0400 Thanks to BigChuck for the chance to pass this crisp sbd on. Here's his original post: < SSIA. Thanks to Steve in Tokyo. 2 Discs, early and late shows. First to send me their snail mail address and a promise to re-offer to the group noB noP gets it. later > Same deal -- I send it to you, you make copies for yourself, and then offer up the original Taiyo Uden discs. email Pocky_Way at comcast.net ------------------------------ From: "ggull" Subject: Re: 7/23/77 JGB FLAC Permavine noB noP Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:31:03 -0400 "ck" wrote .. > wrote... >> Closed. Gordon will re-offer soon. > > you mean Gordon the drunk rainbow hobo from dead tour? Uhhh, I don't think so, man, but I can't remember much from back then. Peace out. re-offer has been made. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:50:08 GMT Sherry wrote: >>Parents that don't set boundaries for their kids run into these problems >>all the time. To discount parental influence and hype medication as the >>solution to man's mental ills is truly a disturbing trend, especially >>here in America and especially given that other methods work just as >>effectively without hindering the development of a child's brain. Sad. > > > And that explains why my other 3 kids are "fine"?! > > I'm a terrible parent to one and not the others? I never said you were a terrible parent. In fact, I assumed that you did all the right things with your kid, that is until your defensiveness kicked and you started getting testy with me for expressing an opinion which was weighted differently than your own. I mean, come on. What am I to assume when you completely discount others based on your own personal experience? So forgive me if you thought I was attacking you personally or that you needed to defend your parenting skills from the outset. But whenever talk of medication comes in as *the* solution for ADD/ADHD in children, I'm gonna speak up. -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:53:02 GMT Sherry wrote: >>But I wasn't doing that Richard and it's unfair really to say to. I >>never put forth the idea that ADD is diagnosed by brain scan (not true >>for the most part and certainly not scientific) and then follow by >>saying, "I'm right. I KNOW. I LIVE IT!". I mean, come on. The way >>Sherry put forth her argument was that she's right cause her kid has >>been diagnosed and treated. End of discussion. Well, I proposed that >>it wasn't the end of the discussion. There are other valid >>views...views held by professionals in the field of psychology and >>psychiatry. > > > Bullshit. > > So no mistakes are made about what I mean: JC, you are full of shit. "I'm right. I KNOW. I LIVE IT!" ======= I'm right....No, I'm Right!! NO, NO, I AM RIGHT!!! I KNOW!!!! Yawn. -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:00:15 GMT Richard Morris wrote: > "Sherry" wrote in message > news:BF5787AA.54EC7%sherry13@together.net... > >>>That was why I got so excited >>>by Sherry's remark that there was a brain-scan diagnosis, because I >>>thought >>>perhaps she had become aware of something new. In reality, I suspect she >>>mis-spoke about that. >> >>I'm actually planning to call my son's doctor tomorrow and ask to clarify >>that. But I'm pretty sure that's what the record (mri-type brain image - I >>am not sure of the exact machine they used) says. >> >>Sherry in Vermont >> > > > I don't question that he had a brain scan. But I suspect that it was > probably use *to rule out organic dysfunction* ... and thus when you have > ruled out other possible causes, you are left with ADD/ADHD as the problem. > So in a sense the brain scan may have resulted in a diagnosis of ADD, but > only through process of elimination. Just a guess. Look Richard, as someone who works at public school, you know that the way kids are tested for ADD/ADHD is by observation and questionnaire, not brain scans. Yes, there are brain scans used by some experimental doctors to bolster their case, but it's 100% in the realm of the theoretical. But Sherry KNOWS BETTER because her doctor says so. But I get my views from the media!!! #### Talk about a crock of shit. This thread is starting to get on my nerves big time. -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:12:26 GMT Sherry wrote: >>Personally, I try to avoid the name calling, but I'm not going to get >>too offended if it's directed towards me. Been there, done that. I'm a >>Usenet veteran. > > > Normally I don't call names. But in certain recent situations there is > relevancy. Nah. You're just being childish. (I AM RIGHT!! YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT! ASSHOLE!!) That's okay though. I can ride this wave. You're no Warrior Princess. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Matt" Subject: Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:15:56 GMT Bill wrote: : Actually, The Lemon song is an amazingly direct copy (lyrics and music) : of Howling Wolf's "The Killing Floor". You can find this version on : Wolf's "The Real Folk Blues" record. This a great version worth seeking : out. the first pressings of zep II actually list the song as 'killing floor'. i've also heard another song use the lyrics in Trampled Under Foot, but i never got any info on whether it was a zep rip, or an original... ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:16:58 GMT Sherry wrote: > Richard sees thousands of kids all the time and HE doesn't see this huge > problem that you claim you have proof exists - and your "proof" is because > the media said so. See Richard. There's that media thing again. It's in her head, not mine. > Are you insane, as well as an asshole? You ought to check you own insanity with these media conspiracies of yours. To clarify again, I've done tons of research on mental illness. You have no clue whatsoever. And the fact is that you are misinformed about what is science and what isn't. Brain scans are not science nor are they a widely used tool in diagnosing ADD/ADHD. But then, you should know that already. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Jay" Subject: 69 limited 10 cd set ~ Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:18:25 -0400 just curious, homany here did grab up a copy ? i know i got one of the last 20 , they were going fast and i knew i had better order , cant wait till it gets here ! jay ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: SKB - Coach House Date: 22 Sep 2005 05:23:19 -0700 Steve Lenier wrote: > in article 3pbr2uF9m87fU1@individual.net, Andrew Murawa at > amurawa@hotmail.comspamsucks. wrote on 9/20/05 6:23 PM: > > > This coming Saturday the 24th... Who's going? > > > > > > > it's a possibility, but I never get out of the house for things I only kinda > care about, "Get out of the house"????? Steve, your MCS (Male Captivity Syndrome) is making us ALL look bad. Tell the old lady that you are going OUT, and when you come home at 2am all stinking of stale beer and "Master-funk", you EXPECT to be properly serviced and then have a nice omlette prepared, with toast. Get out of the house or STFU! Mark ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page Date: 22 Sep 2005 05:23:48 -0700 >A few other Led Zep songs which are either complete rip-offs of simply >lyrical thefts are: not discounting the other rip-offs, but in all fairness the Zep did credit Minnie on Levee Breaks. The author of that article scoffs that they added credits for Page/Jones/Bonham, questioning what they added to the track, but they could certainly be granted legitimate arranging credits for cryin out loud. They flat-out killed on that sucker. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:32:16 -0700 "pookietooth" wrote in message news:1127334881.392797.273740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >> I find people who don't want to argue about important topics and defend >> their views on said topics to be rather dull. >> >> Everyone wants to avoid anything that disturbs their little world view or >> their idea of what their world should be like. Like a rambunctious kid. >> >> EGBH > That's the whole point though. A kid isn't a 'topic', and someone > talking about the kid to the parent that way may raise a little anger. That's my whole point. Nothing wrong with a little anger. I'm not saying I go around criticizing parents to their faces, or enjoy blasting them on Usenet. But the topic of how best to raise kids is one that needs a lot more debate than it gets in this country. If sometimes some folks get angry, good. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:34:44 -0700 "JC Martin" wrote in message news:6IkYe.199$u8.3480@typhoon.sonic.net... > Carlisle wrote: >> JC Martin wrote: >> >>>Dylanstubs wrote: >>> >>>>Sort of like trying to explain why the Spring '77 tour doesn't do much >>>>for you. :) >>> >>> >>>But see, I'm with Toad. These conversations/debates can lead to a lot >>>of useful information if people are willing to let their guard down, >>>take a little heat and respectfully disagree. I know it's hard, but >>>damn, I learn most of the good stuff in life out of conflict. We don't >>>all admit it at the time, but these debates dip into a great well of >>>life experience and fill our cups if we're thirsty enough. >>> >>>-JC >> >> >> Well said, JC. >> > > > > Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe even > weeks after today. ;-) Remember what I told you? RMG never remains > static. Never. Old alliances and friends become enemies. Enemies become > friends. Another bright and sunny, yet paradoxical day here in digital > space. > > Ain't Usenet great? > > -JC I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, yet acted as if he were being unjustly treated when he made crude sexual comments about a toddler when another RMGD mom shared her kids with friends here on the group. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Jay" Subject: Re: That Jet Blue Landing gear thing (NDC) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:35:06 -0400 Man ! in know I would have had to have a beer , valium and a smoke ! ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:36:05 +0900 On 2005-09-22 11:06:12 +0900, "Neil X." said: > >> Steve wrote: >> >> sounds like a Booie post...hee hee.. > > > Uh, well, yeah, the style was deliberately an homage to booie. But the > question is sincere. I really don't understand the appeal of gambling, > so the casinos hold zero interest. I also don't much feel like > spending $300 a night, or driving a long way after the show. Seems > like I'm going to have to choose one or the other. > > Phil playing in a House of Blues, in a scummy casino city, it is gonna > be a trip, though, no doubt about it. Even without the fractals. > > How many people does a House of Blues hold? The one in Boson couldn't > have held more than 500. > > Peace, > Neil X. never been to a House of Blues; my only casino experience was through the psylly vortex of the 1983 Las Vegas Aladdin Theatre show, and other times passing through the state of Nevada. the NV gambling scene is/was cheesy, freaky and I'm also a gambling non-participant...but it was fun to see Phil and entourage hit the casino before the show, and then view sparky Deadheads at 3 a.m. after the show dancing to little pedal-steel ensembles in the bowels of the all-night Aladdin casino...at least Vegas 22 years ago can be said to have had a bit of the West flavor; Atlantic City, OTOH, can only be characterized, without me ever having been there but projecting a stereotype nonetheless, as the creme de la NJ cheese...(NTTAWWT, especially if you're going for the purpose of having a good time). So, have a good time, and report back with an "experience" post! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:37:37 -0700 "Sherry" wrote in message news:BF578A3E.54ECA%sherry13@together.net... >> I find people who don't want to argue about important topics and defend >> their views on said topics to be rather dull. >> >> Everyone wants to avoid anything that disturbs their little world view or >> their idea of what their world should be like. Like a rambunctious kid. > Your address, Toad? > > Obviously, I enjoy conversation, as I do many things in life. Like > rambunctious kids. ;P But I'm a foot loose and fancy free unmarried man, with a house full of eager young strippers, drugs galore, cases of Wild Turkey in the pantry, and more porn than anyone should be entitled to possess. You don't want your boy to stay here.............. time with me would be far worse for him than his medication. ;-) EGBH ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? Date: 22 Sep 2005 05:39:46 -0700 sorry - a weak attempt at tying a Godfather reference in with your comment about fleas. Granted it was weak, but it's never wrong to do a Godfather reference even if it's way out of context ;-) Enjoy the shows! I still may try to catch one - I saw Phil in Camden a couple years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. I read with great interest the many rmgd posts regarding the various nu-dead combos. Phil sometimes takes quite a beating, but he is what he is - he still likes the music and so do I. He does enough with it to keep it interesting. The lack of Jerry is always glaringly obvious in any of the permutations, but there's nothing anyone can do about that so I don't dwell on it. ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:42:48 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:g9udnSAtQrTpfazeRVn- > Is this proof of Toad's assertion that it is all societal? If I said that, I didn't mean it. After I posted my list of causes, others pointed out that the food kids eat must play a part in all this, it just has to. I agree. EGBH ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:48:48 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "JC Martin" wrote in message > news:6IkYe.199$u8.3480@typhoon.sonic.net... > >>Carlisle wrote: >> >>>JC Martin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Dylanstubs wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Sort of like trying to explain why the Spring '77 tour doesn't do much >>>>>for you. :) >>>> >>>> >>>>But see, I'm with Toad. These conversations/debates can lead to a lot >>>>of useful information if people are willing to let their guard down, >>>>take a little heat and respectfully disagree. I know it's hard, but >>>>damn, I learn most of the good stuff in life out of conflict. We don't >>>>all admit it at the time, but these debates dip into a great well of >>>>life experience and fill our cups if we're thirsty enough. >>>> >>>>-JC >>> >>> >>>Well said, JC. >>> >> >> >> >>Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe even >>weeks after today. ;-) Remember what I told you? RMG never remains >>static. Never. Old alliances and friends become enemies. Enemies become >>friends. Another bright and sunny, yet paradoxical day here in digital >>space. >> >>Ain't Usenet great? >> >>-JC > > > > I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, yet > acted as if he were being unjustly treated when he made crude sexual > comments about a toddler when another RMGD mom shared her kids with friends > here on the group. Yeah, that was pretty funny and most definitely hypocritical, but I didn't want to get to sidetracked by it. I'm serious about this shit. Sherry thinks the conversation is all about her and that I somehow must get satisfaction out of being an asshole to her. Not the case. This is an issue I really care about, not an issue I learn about via the media. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Brave New World Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 05:51:22 -0700 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:KfKdnXfkTPa9TazeRVn-rA@comcast.com... > > "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote in message > news:skgYe.271$aB1.2717@eagle.america.net... > > snip >> Maybe your kid is one of the tiny number of kids who actually do have a >> medical problem and need to be drugged up so they don't burn down the >> house. > Maybe? Maybe you have missed the posts where she described the behaviors > she was seeing. Yes, a definite maybe. I have no reason not to believe Sherry, she's obviously a good mom IMO. But since I don't know her personally, I can't be absolutely certain of that. Hence the qualifier. >> The vast majority of kids being drugged up into nice little robots are >> drugged so society doesn't have to deal with that dreaded word: >> individuality. All kids must be exactly alike, so the school and daycare >> bureacracies can treat them all exactly the same. Its easier and cheaper >> than dealing with actual humans with their own personalities. >> >> This phony illness is caused by adults who have created a vacuous, >> shallow, incredibly fast paced world for kids to live in. A world in >> which parents are mostly absent, and expectations are appallingly low. >> >> I don't get how literally no one had any of these phony illnesses created >> by doctors and drug companies when I was a kid, and now most kids are all >> suddenly "sick", in need of mind altering drugs to function. > This is all very romantic, but there is one problem with your theory. > > Ritalin, and the other meds that are used to control ADD are stimulants > ... amphetamine-like drugs. > > Kids who take these meds who do not have ADD get wired just like you or I > would on a cross-top. Kids with ADD experience the paradoxical effect: > they slow down, discrimate, focus better. Why? Because giving antsie kids amphetamines makes them drugged up zombies? These are kids, they aren't fully developed yet. If ADD was as prevalent as you seem to believe, why WOULD kids improve when given amphetamines? No one seems to know, hence my concern. > This implies that there is indeed something going on with those kids. I > don't think your romantic theory about ruthless parents and institutions > out to drug the spirit out of kids tells the whole story. What I want to > understand is why there are so many kids out there who are experiencing > the symptoms that they are. All of the causes I mentioned previously, plus the fad of parents taking their kid to a shrink every time he acts out. > They aren't just free spirits, Toad. My gut tells me that there are > environmental factors ... but I am not a researcher. Bad parents, bad schools, bad societal values, and bad food are environmental factors. You don't treat those with drugs. EGBH ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: ndc-two subjects not to discuss with folks you like Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:54:03 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>Ohhh, don't cheer me too much. I'm the bad guy for moment and maybe even >>weeks after today. ;-) > > I loved how dingleberry was offended by your remarks in this thread, I wasn't offended by JC's remarks. I said he was out of line for presuming to lecture a mother about her child's health issues. And I'm right about that, you know ? > yet > acted as if he were being unjustly treated when he made crude sexual > comments about a toddler when another RMGD mom shared her kids with friends > here on the group. Cassie Carlise the Kentucky Cracker said she was a whore and then posted a link. All I said was, "How much for the little girl." Caused me to LOL at my own wit, now you can say my "wit" is nit, half or fuck, but you can't say I made crude sexual comments about Carlisle's toddler. Unless you've got some sort of stick up your butt. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .