From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #351 Dead-Flames Digest #351, Volume #48 Wed, 21 Sep 05 04:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Clinton interviews.. ("ck") Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call ("Dave Kelly") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("ck") Re: hyperbole contest ("DGDevin") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("ck") Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call (Commander Salamander) Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call ("Rupert") Re: Laurie Anderson??? (Walter Karmazyn) Re: Clinton interviews.. ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call ("The Iron Muffin") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("ck") Re: I love a good Franklins ("band beyond description") Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? ("band beyond description") Re: Clinton interviews.. ("The Iron Muffin") Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... ("band beyond description") Re: Rock and Roll HOF Nominees Announced (Kirk McElhearn) Re: Rock and Roll HOF Nominees Announced ("Olompali4") Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page ("Olompali4") Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("volkfolk") What are all those tracks for? (Kirk McElhearn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ck" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:31:55 -0400 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:ZYidnRRslPlAca3eRVn-sg@comcast.com... > Chris Pharissee wrote: > > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > > Chris Heresy wrote: > > > > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > > > > Chris Pharissee wrote: > > > > > > > why don't we set a date for a meet and greet then this burnt > out > > > > > > druggie can kick your lame ass to kingdom come ,you on?Hell, i'll > > > > > > take both you punks at once. > > > > > > > > > > You really don't know Jesus at all, do you, Pharissee? > > > > > > > > > > Matthew 5:38 - 5:39 > > > > > Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, > > > > > and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist > > > > > not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, > > > > > turn to him the other also. > > > > > > > > > > Matthew 5:43 - 5:44 > > > > > Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy > > > > > neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love > > > > > your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them > > > > > that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, > > > > > and persecute you; > > > > > > > > > > Oh, wait. That's the part of the bible that you fundamentalist > > > > > psychopaths don't like...the stuff that Jesus taught. > > > > > > > > That would mean something > > > > > > It is obvious that it does not mean anything to you, hypocrite. > > > > > > > if it came from someone who belived it was the Word of God > > > > and not merely a convenient stone to throw at someone. > > > > > > It did. His name was Matthew, and he was a disciple of the man > > > whose teachings you claim to follow. Too bad you don't actually > > > follow his teachings... > > > > > > And by the way, if your adherence (or lack thereof) to *your* > > > religion is dependent upon *my* beliefs, well, that's just pathetic. > > > > Your citing it is plainly not meant as an admonition to a brother > > That's because you're not my brother. You're some fuckwit on > Usenet who spouts insane fundamentalist bullshit, then makes > excuses when called on your very non-christian behavior. > > > but some bizzaree hijacking of a faith you do not share > > You're damned right, I don't share your weak faith...and nobody > with any understanding of the teachings of Jesus does, either. > > The only bizarre hijacking of a faith here is yours. > > > in an attempt to use it as a weapon against someone with whose > > ideas you differ. > > So what? Since when is *your* adherence to the religion *you* > profess dependent upon *my* beliefs? > > You are a "christian" in name only, and it is obvious that you don't > know Jesus at all. Weather i know him isn't even the right question. It is, does he know me?. If he acknowleges me therelative limited degree of my knowledge of him hurts only me. If that hurt you your responses to me would be of an entirely different nature. "Whoever acknowledges Me before men, I will also acknowledge him before My Father in heaven. But whoever disowns Me before men, I will disown him before My Father in heaven." (Matthew 10:32-33) ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:31:08 GMT No Dana Morgan Jr.? NO Sweetbac! I will not BUDGE on this stance. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:38:19 -0400 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:jtGdnWt5ErwKcq3eRVn-sA@comcast.com... > Chris Heresy wrote: > > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > > Chris Pharissee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > my ability to make a reasoned point as impaired due to > > > > a permanant state of mental devastaion after excessive > > > > abuse of pychedelics. > > > > > > If the shoe fits... > > > > > It doesn't fit by a long shot. > > Oh, but it does. It's obvious that you damaged yourself > with drugs. > > > If i did i wouldn't have a thing to say about any subject > > let alone myself. > > Well, you don't have anything RATIONAL to say... > > > What, are you STILL bitter i shamed you into changing > > your effeminate handle? > > What makes you think that my changing my Usenet name > had anything to do with you? > > What makes you think that you "shamed" me? > > What makes you think that the name "Snorky The Inept" > is effeminate? > > What makes you think that I was ever "bitter" about > changing my Usenet name? > > You're even more out of touch with reality than I have > been giving you credit for...something I would not have > ever thought possible. > If i cared what you thought about me i would be out of touch.That you are incapable of seeing rational thought in my reading, understanding, processing according to my knowledge and world view,forming a coherent,comprehensible response,finding valid supporting source material then posting it to convey my thrust you are the one with a problem, which goes without saying if you think Bill Clinton was or is a good leader of anything but a ship of fools. ------------------------------ From: "DGDevin" Subject: Re: hyperbole contest Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:39:48 GMT wrote in message news:1127237254.983718.28520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > He uniquely pulls in Iraq, GWB, and genetically modified foods in > every post. Repetitive? Perhaps, but he has refined it to almost > an art form. > > Kurt If delusional babbling about 9/11 being a fake attack executed on Bush's orders is "art," okay, I suppose you're entitled to admire it. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:41:45 -0400 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:jtGdnWp5ErwKcq3eRVn-sA@comcast.com... > Chris Pharissee wrote: > > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > > Chris Heresy wrote: > > > > > If he wants to denegrate me personally, he can back that up > > > > with his body or STFU. > > > > > > ...or he can just keep denigrating you on Usenet. > > > > Sure he can do that, and appear as the empty lying coward he is. > > Actually, you're the one who appears to be an empty, lying coward. > > Cal is funny as heck and quite intelligent. He also does a great > Elvis impression. > > > Thankfully the only one who's judgement matters of weather or > > not i know Jesus is Jesus.Why don't you ask Him if he knows me > > if the question irks you this much. > > I don't talk to fictional characters from fairy tales...besides, there is > no question about it. You don't know Jesus at all. > To the contrary the question was raised by yourself. Now you reveal your true stance, an anti-christ. Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22 ,Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist 2 John 1:7 ------------------------------ From: Commander Salamander Subject: Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:46:49 -0700 Reply-To: commander.salamander@gmail.com On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:28:01 -0700, leftie wrote: >So, how many rmgd'ers will be at the Greek this Saturday besides me? Me C.S. ------------------------------ From: "Rupert" Subject: Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call Date: 20 Sep 2005 23:08:04 -0700 Hey Joe! Show starts at FIVE in the afternoon, runs 'till eleven...hopefully without too many breaks. Give me a call, man! ------------------------------ From: Walter Karmazyn Subject: Re: Laurie Anderson??? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:11:22 -0700 seraphim wrote: > she'e playing local should I go??? hmmmm.... > > absolutely. W ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:24:22 -0400 Chris Heresy wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > Chris Pharissee wrote: > > > Thankfully the only one who's judgement matters of weather or > > > not i know Jesus is Jesus.Why don't you ask Him if he knows me > > > if the question irks you this much. > > > > I don't talk to fictional characters from fairy tales...besides, there > > is no question about it. You don't know Jesus at all. > > To the contrary the question was raised by yourself. No, it was raised by you and your bible-thumping, holier-than-thou, proselytizing fuckwittery. I simply used the words of Jesus to show your hypocrisy for what it is. > Now you reveal your true stance, an anti-christ. Nope, I'm anti-christian. There *is* a difference. > Who is the liar? That would be you, one who claims to espouse christianity, yet constantly acts in a very un-christian manner. HTH. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:26:20 -0400 Chris Pharissee wrote: > you are the one with a problem, which goes without saying > if you think Bill Clinton was or is a good leader of anything > but a ship of fools. Please provide a link to a post where I said anything of the sort. By the way, you forgot to answer my questions: > > What makes you think that my changing my Usenet name > > had anything to do with you? > > > > What makes you think that you "shamed" me? > > > > What makes you think that the name "Snorky The Inept" > > is effeminate? > > > > What makes you think that I was ever "bitter" about > > changing my Usenet name? *crickets* -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:27:47 -0400 Chris Pharissee wrote: You forgot to answer my question: > > Since when is *your* adherence to the religion *you* profess > > dependent upon *my* beliefs? Still waiting for an answer... *crickets* -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Rex Benefi: Roll Call Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:29:03 -0400 leftie wrote: > So, how many rmgd'ers will be at the Greek this Saturday > besides me? WIIAAHSWYP? -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:26:34 -0400 "The Iron Muffin" wrote in message news:TZKdnQFHpufHZq3eRVn-qg@comcast.com... > Chris Heresy wrote: > > I don't talk to fictional characters from fairy tales...besides, there > > > is no question about it. You don't know Jesus at all. > > > > To the contrary the question was raised by yourself. > > No, it was raised by you and your bible-thumping, holier-than-thou, > proselytizing fuckwittery. I simply used the words of Jesus to show > your hypocrisy for what it is. > > > Now you reveal your true stance, an anti-christ. > > Nope, I'm anti-christian. There *is* a difference. > Not according to Jesus.If you;re going to invoke Him you are going to have to accept all of what he has to say. You are not given the prerogative of editing his words to suit your aims which according to your own words are contary to his as He dwells within his followers. Now go bang your head against a wall or something i'm not to have anything to do with the unrighteous. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: I love a good Franklins Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:18:40 +0900 "brew ziggins" wrote in message news:MPG.1d98a0491e410bec9897d7@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu... > Thus spake DFspamoffskiBayne@aol.com... > > brew ziggins wrote: > > > Favorite In Person Franklins - 4/12/83 It was one of those moments where > > > everybody in the hall (Broome County Arena, Binghamton NY) was on > > > EXACTLY the same wavelength, and a very happy one it was. Preceded by a > > > very deep, incisive Slipknot! > > > > Charlie Miller has just remastered the Binghamton show and it is a huge > > upgrade over the prior circulated SBD source. > > Anybody care to hook a bandwidth challenged fella up? > -- > bruce higgins ithaca ny > most of the day, we were at the machinery Attention: "Sailor-Saint" alert!!!! Perhaps Brew's stardust memories have been smoothed by the sands of time, but for your own good (to avoid any potential adverse flashbacks and/or other assorted psychic repercussions), I would suggest DB excise the above tracks before passing this along to the Ithaca Kid. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: What's It Like in Atlantic City? Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:19:27 +0900 "Neil X." wrote in message news:1127276244.757404.210510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I've never been there, but it was the closest place to New England > where Phil was playing a multi-night set over a weekend, so we ordered > tickets, and off we will go. Are we going to spend a fortune for > accomodations? I sort of imagine the place as being like Vegas with NJ > fith and no Wayne Newton. Is that at all accurate? Will we need our > shots before getting near the place? I hate fleas...... > > Peace, > Neil X. > sounds like a Booie post...hee hee.. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: Clinton interviews.. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:21:01 -0400 Chris Pharissee wrote: > The Iron Muffin wrote: > > Chris Heresy wrote: > > > Now you reveal your true stance, an anti-christ. > > > > Nope, I'm anti-christian. There *is* a difference. > > > Not according to Jesus.If you;re going to invoke > Him you are going to have to accept all of what he > has to say. No, I most certainly do not. I do as I please, and your fairy tale religion has no influence with me. > You are not given the prerogative of editing his > words to suit your aims which according to your > own words are contary to his as He dwells within > his followers. I didn't "edit" his words. I presented them just as they were written in my grandmother's King James version. If you cannot accept the words as they are written, I suggest you pretend to follow a different religion. Given your attitudes as presented on this newsgroup, I suggest radical fundamentalist Islam as a good fit. > Now go bang your head against a wall or something > i'm not to have anything to do with the unrighteous. You might as well leave RMGD then...and don't forget to shun yourself, as you are one of the most unrighteous people it has ever been my misfortune to encounter. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:19:27 +0900 "tim_ratdog" wrote in message news:1127137521.478644.215210@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Richard Morris wrote: > > What's yer favorite Franklin? > > > > I'd go with the 11/2/79 monster that I listened to all summer. After > 20 minutes or so you really think, how can these guys take such a > simple song and make it last this long and be so incredibly fantastic? > > -tim > 11/2/79: yes, that's exactly what i was thinking... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rock and Roll HOF Nominees Announced From: kirk@mcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:28:01 +0200 Stuknot wrote: > According to CNN: > > Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five > Patti Smith > Sex Pistols > Stooges > > Shoo-ins? No-Chancers? Questionable choices? Personally, I'd vote for the above... Kirk ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: Rock and Roll HOF Nominees Announced Date: 21 Sep 2005 03:38:00 -0700 >The only other murderer musician I know of is Rick Stevens, from Tower of >Power. Jim Gordon the drummer on Derek and the Dominoes' "Layla and other assorted Love Songs" murdered his mother. ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: The Dubious Jimmy Page Date: 21 Sep 2005 03:42:40 -0700 >the whole Jeff Beck "Truth" discourse >was RIGHT on the money....this....let me repeat..THIS!... is the >1st british heavy metal record... Recorded after Beck was blown away by a bunch of kids in a little rock band called FREE. They were the template for what Jeff and Roddy created. Their debut, "TONS OF SOBS" came out a coupla' weeks after Truth and only because Beck had the clout to rush release Truth. Paul Rodgers still kicks ass...yes even in Queen. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:54:19 -0400 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:KsSdnQvUQ_lyLK3eRVn-qg@comcast.com... > > "volkfolk" wrote in message > news:N5udnezhbOOHBq3eRVn-hA@comcast.com... >> >> "RickNBarbInSD" wrote in message >> news:1127239276.989184.24190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> volkfolk wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Life is NEVER a level playing field. >>> >>>> Scot >>> >>> >>> The Way It Is >> >> >> >> A great song, but life ISN'T a level playing field for any of us, whether >> in sports, art, business or whatever. I wasn't referring simply to race >> when I pointed that out. There are always winners and losers. If you >> don't like that fact, I refer you to the short story "Harrison Burgeron" >> by Kurt Vonnegut from "Welcome to the Monkey House" as a primer how to >> level the playing field for everyone, everywhere.. > > Scot, don't you think we have to differentiate between the differences > that just simply arise out of being human--the human condition, and the > inequities that are *created* by society and culture? One can be changed, > the other can't. Tes, and no. I always thought that Vonnegut's point was that if you try to level the playing field too much you end up screwing everyone. Where do you draw the line? Consider the debate about Affirmative Action. If you give someone a spot in a school or a job because of a quota in the name of diversiity, where does that leave someone who may be more deserving based on merit? Either way someone is going to be a loser. I don't know the answer, but it raises quite a few moral and ethical questions IMO. I know that I am glad not to be running an HR dept or a college admissions office. Scot ------------------------------ Subject: What are all those tracks for? From: kirk@mcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:55:37 +0200 On jerrygarcia.com, talking about the 2/28/80 show: We dug into the vault and found pristine 24-track tapes of the Kean College performance. Okay, 24-track sounds cool. But wait - it was a 4-member band. So Jerry gets 4 tracks, two for guitar and two for vocals. Ozzie gets 4. Jahn gets two. And De Foncesca, the drummer, gets, say, 8, because drum kits are mixed multi-track. Add another 2 for Hunter's vocals, and that still only comes to 22, and I'm being liberal for the drums. So what the heck do they do with 24 tracks in such a setup? Kirk ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .