From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #321 Dead-Flames Digest #321, Volume #48 Sun, 18 Sep 05 09:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Chainee to have surgery... (DG) Re: Chainee to have surgery... ("sacha") Jerry Quote 09-18-05 ("observer part II") Blues for Jimi ("Dave Kelly") Re: Blues for Jimi ("Olompali4") Re: Chainee to have surgery... ("Schmoe") Lisa Gerrard interview [Dead Can Dance ndc] ("seraphim") Jerry Garcia Band - Pure Jerry, Volume 6: Warner Theatre - March (John Metzger) Re: NDC Bush's speech last night ("volkfolk") Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("volkfolk") Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit (JC Martin) Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) ("pv34pv3p") The Evens & Blind Beast (NDC) (band beyond description) Re: You Rupp! (B&P) ** CLOSED ** (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Guitarist's pick their GD songs they would play. ("volkfolk") The Hunting For the President ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Chainee to have surgery... ("volkfolk") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DG Subject: Re: Chainee to have surgery... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:32:06 -0700 ck wrote: > >"DG" wrote in message >news:jflpi1lsagijpt2io0qfs0i84mm04d5p7o@4ax.com... >> grtflmark wrote: >> > >> >minnehaha wrote: >> >> "Richard Morris" wrote in message >> >> news:atqdnU0A8LAnwbHeRVn-hQ@comcast.com... >> >> > >> >> > "Stephen St." wrote in message >> >> > news:kDYWe.1572$2J3.454@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> "DG" wrote in message >> >> >> news:fdloi1dfs31huth146gpemjd7q2s361p8e@4ax.com... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Let's us pray to little baby jebus for infection, complication and >a >> >> >>> shaky surgeon. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Go grim reaper! >> >> >> >> >> >> Thats some good karma your spreading there. Hope it doesnt come back >to >> >> >> haunt you. >> >> >> But it will. >> >> > >> >> > Heh. How do you know that DG's wish isn't Chaney's karma coming bac >to >> >> > haunt *him*??? >> >> >> >> >> >> There is no such thing as "Karma". Unless of course you believe in >religion >> >> and deities and other such fairy tale crap. >> > >> >...... that's not true - the Zeroth and Second Law of Thermodynamics >> >are perfect examples of karma --- though some would say those laws are >> >a result of a "God" or something like that - but, the math works either >> >way... >> >> >> Let's all now believe in fairy tales. I want many gawds. It's so >> much easier to have a gawd to curse and one to praise. I'll praise >> the pussy gawd and curse the fart gawd. >> >> > > where does that leave the pussyfart god? They create new gawds every day! I'm not sure the protocol to worship the pussyfart gawd. ------------------------------ From: "sacha" Subject: Re: Chainee to have surgery... Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:43:07 -0600 "Schmoe" wrote in message news:_i%We.7527$IC3.5890@fe12.lga... > Installing a heart? > > Thats it, Heart implant surgery!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: "observer part II" Subject: Jerry Quote 09-18-05 Date: 18 Sep 2005 03:40:51 -0700 Reality is our own invention, which we have total access to in the most creative, direct, one-to-one sense. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Blues for Jimi Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:17:07 GMT 9/18/70 - Jimi Hendrix is found dead from barbiturate overdose. The Jimi Hendrix Experience is inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1991 and Hendrix is posthumously voted a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 1992 ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: Blues for Jimi Date: 18 Sep 2005 05:37:18 -0700 Gold and rose, The color of a dream I had Not too long ago Misty blue and lillac too Never to grow old. There you were under the tree of song Sleeping so peacefully In your hand a flower played Waiting there for me. ~~~~~~Jimi Hendrix. Not Fade Away! ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Chainee to have surgery... Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:44:00 -0400 sacha wrote: > "Schmoe" wrote in message > news:_i%We.7527$IC3.5890@fe12.lga... >> Installing a heart? >> >> > Thats it, Heart implant surgery!!!!!!!!!!! Yezh, that's right, I couldn't get that 'implant' word together, kept thinking transplant which I knew wasn't right because nothing's being removed. ------------------------------ From: "seraphim" Subject: Lisa Gerrard interview [Dead Can Dance ndc] Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:45:19 GMT http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/18/PKGA1EMJ611.DTL&type=music You may not know the music, but you'll never forget the name of the band or the ghoulish images that skitter through your brain the first time you hear Dead Can Dance. The band is the partnership of Lisa Gerrard and Brendan Perry, composer-songwriters whose sound spans continents and centuries to bring forth moody music that echoes cultural influences from Ireland to the Middle East, from the 12th century to the present day. DCD makes music that could belong to any or all cultures. In 1996, after a decade of cult-artist status, DCD had a No. 1 hit on Billboard's world music chart with the album "Spiritchaser." Gerrard and Perry completed a world tour to ecstatic notices from fans and critics, then went on an extended hiatus that many feared was the end of the road. Perry retreated to his castle in the Irish countryside and Gerrard went back to Australia to tend to her family and write music for motion pictures, including "Gladiator," "Whale Rider," "Ali" and "Layer Cake." "(Performing live) invigorates you, but life on the road wears you down," Gerrard says by phone from Seattle, where she was rehearsing with the rest of the DCD ensemble for their current American tour. "The frequencies hitting your ears and the volume can tire you, but you're so elated onstage you don't notice it. The next morning you implode. You do five gigs in a row, have a day off, then seven in a row, day off -- it's a strange kind of torture. You love it, but it destroys you." That said, Gerrard goes on to explain the reasoning behind the band's reunion. "It may sound pretentious or self-important, but the things happening on the planet today are making people suffer," she says. "I understand culture and spirituality, but I don't like nationalism or religion. Nationalism is a political device and religious people quickly forget the basic tenets (of Christianity), which include thou shalt not kill, for one. We offer our music as a gift to provoke a deeper sensibility in the consciousness of people; we hope to bring people to a state that's not just entertaining. We ask the audience and ourselves: What is spirituality? What is it to be an artist? What is it to be human? "Those are questions that must be answered from the inside out, not from the outside in. Brendan and I have a difficult relationship, there's no doubt about it, but (the songs) we've created are like our children. If we can overcome the things that separate us and offer the music as an olive branch, perhaps we can create some positive energy and open the pathway of the heart to a deeper understanding of the spirit. We can remind ourselves that we're all multidimensional creatures." Gerrard and Perry will be playing many new compositions Wednesday and Thursday at the Paramount Theatre in Oakland, songs that have been road tested during the European leg of their tour. "About half the set is new stuff. We save the older pieces for the encores, if we get them," Gerrard says archly. "We haven't written together in a while, but we've both brought in things we've written on our own. We don't know if there will be a new album yet; we'll have to wait and see how Brendan is feeling at the end of all this." Gerrard will be singing in her newly discovered lower register, a gruff almost other-worldly tone she discovered while recording "Immortal Memory," her 2004 collaboration with Patrick Cassidy. "Years ago I sang on a track using that voice and someone asked, 'Who is that terribly depressed man?' " Gerrard says. "But Patrick loved it. He said, 'You sound like a young boy, like a child, like an old woman, like an old man,' and really, we all have all of those things inside of us. I don't do any vocal gymnastics to make the voice better as I age. If it comes out rougher, then it's true to what's happening. Singing is who I am. I didn't train for it, any more than I trained for anything else I did. I probably should take better care of myself physically, but it goes against the grain." At the end of the current tour, Gerrard will be putting the finishing touches on her next solo album. "I'm working with Michael Edwards, a keyboard player and programmer, and Patrick Cassidy, but it's not like anything I've ever done before," she says. "All the compositions are mine, so it's a real solo album. Still, I'll be showcasing their input because they're both brilliant." (Both Edwards and Cassidy are part of the current DCD touring ensemble, along with John Bonnar, keys; Lance Hogan, guitar; and percussionists Simeon Smith and Niall Gregory.) If a new Dead Can Dance album isn't in the cards, Gerrard has plenty to keep her busy. In addition to her solo project, there are soundtracks to compose and, back home in Australia, a family to raise. "At the end of the day, success has nothing to do with money," Gerrard says. "In a perfect world, I wouldn't have to play my music to anyone outside my radius because everyone would be playing their own music. But we don't live in a perfect world, so I share as widely as I can and try to maintain some sense of sanity. The money lets me stay at home to be a good parent, but it has nothing to do with making music. "I have a friend who is an opera singer and she never sang publicly in her life. She sang in hospitals to people who were sick. I was interviewing her for a documentary film I was making, and she could have become the most important opera singer in Australia, but at 88 she was merely a wonderful old eccentric. "She told me: 'I have achieved what I've wanted to achieve, one to one. I hold a person's hand as I sing to them, and I can see the intimacy between us written in their eyes. I'd never change that for a stage.' " . J. poet is a freelance writer. ------------------------------ From: John Metzger Subject: Jerry Garcia Band - Pure Jerry, Volume 6: Warner Theatre - March Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:51:03 GMT Jerry Garcia Band - Pure Jerry, Volume 6: Warner Theatre - March 18, 1978 In the summer of 1977, while percussionist Mickey Hart was recovering from an automobile accident, Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia began to immerse himself more fully in gospel music, and his growing passion for the genre undoubtedly guided him in the creation of what he considered to be his finest solo endeavor Cats under the Stars. The following spring, in support of the effort, he took a revamped rendition of his eponymous outfit on a tour of America's east coast, which culminated in a pair of performances held at Washington D.C.'s Warner Theatre on March 18, 1978. Reproduced in their entirety on the sixth installment of the rapidly expanding Pure Jerry series, the concerts found Garcia energetically rummaging through numerous staples from his repertoire while also unveiling the spiritual core that long had lurked beneath the surface of his work. Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of Pure Jerry, Volume 6: Warner Theatre -- March 18, 1978, however, is the manner in which it thoroughly highlights Garcia's relationship with pianist Keith Godchaux. Indeed, within the open terrain of the Jerry Garcia Band's sonic structure, the duo had an abundance of opportunity to interact, and in employing the intuition of musicians who were extraordinarily fluent in jazz, they frequently spurred one another into carrying the music to new heights. This is an excerpt. To read the complete review, please visit: http://www.musicbox-online.com/jgwarner.html ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: NDC Bush's speech last night Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:42:56 -0400 "neurodancer" wrote in message news:1126902013.457973.209180@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > wyeknot wrote: >> imsjry wrote: >> > brew ziggins wrote: >> >>Thus spake Imsjry@ameritech.net... >> >>>brew ziggins wrote: >> >>>>I thought it was his Best Speech Ever. >> >>> >> >>>Well, compared to what? >> >> >> >>All of his previous speeches. >> >> >> >>>It was also about 2 weeks late. That speech >> >>>was nothing more than damage control and he didn't write a word of it. >> >>>And the rolled up sleaves to project that he's down there "working"? I >> >>>laughed out loud. >> >> >> >>I totally agree. I was just saying he did a much better job of faking >> >>it >> >>than he usually does. >> > >> > Matbe the sleaves and neckties have been holding him back.. >> >> I see you still haven't had those 10 cups of coffee. >> >> Matt > > > > > What would we do without the Usenet typo police? > ND If someone wants to project an air of mental and/or moral superiority, it helps to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation HTH, Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:05:42 -0400 "Roxanne McDaniel" wrote in message news:1mHWe.922$gK.322@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > > "Stuknot" <> wrote in message ... > > I found it offensive. > > John H. > **************** > I did too. Unfortunately, I think that there is way more than a grain of truth. Forty years of "giving" people handouts instead of a hand up, has resulted in innercity poor that have no skills, no future and no hope. Why is that Asian immigrants come to this country and within a generation have children who are valedictorians in their High School and at the same time three or more generations of African American's where the men are in jail or just plain missing and the girls are pregnant at 14? I will tell you why, culture. The welfare state has created the problem, It is the old cliche' "Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for life:" So while you may find it offensive, I think it hits on some essential truths Scot ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:03:14 GMT Stephen St. wrote: > "Bill" wrote in message > news:36%We.1714$Jm.53@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > >>"Stephen St." wrote in message >>news:nN_We.1709$Jm.580@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... >> >>>"Bill" wrote in message >>>news:URZWe.2919$5n4.207@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>> >>>>"Stephen St." wrote in message >>>>news:QjZWe.1580$2J3.975@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>>> >>>>>"Richard Morris" wrote in message >>>>>news:YKWdnYaNat8GwLHeRVn-3A@comcast.com... >>>>> >>>>>>"Stephen St." wrote in message >>>>>>news:InYWe.1564$2J3.1541@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >>>>>> >>>>>>snip >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Louisiana is, by far, the most politicially corrupt state in the >>>> >>>>country. >>>> >>>>>>>And now there is gonna be a few hundred billion dollars going down >>>> >>>>there? >>>> >>>>>>Possibly ... but then Washington, DC is not technically a state. >>>>>>The >>>>>>political corruption there is staggering. Unfortunately, the fox is >>>>>>guarding the hen house at this point ... but that won't be the case >>>>>>forever. >>>>> >>>>>I agree, but I didnt want to include the uber corrupt congress and >>>>>senate. >>>>>All of them by the way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I suspect you voted for the corruption, however, so it probably >> >>doesn't >> >>>>>>trouble you much. >>>>> >>>>>IMHO, anyone who voted anyone in office in DC voted for corruption. >> >>They >> >>>>all >>>> >>>>>suck. >>>> >>>>To put them all into the same basket is evidence of being pretty >> >>ignorant >> >>>>of >>>>the actions and interests of each of them. To put Tom Delay and Henry >>>>Waxman or a lot of the other decent Democrats (John Conyers, many of >>>>the >>>>Bay >>>>Area Democrats) can only come from someone who isn't paying attention. >>> >>>Yes, but you appear to put all republicans into the same basket by >>>mentioning only democrats as potential good guys. >> >>On the Republican side, there's a few decent ones that can be counted on >>one >>hand - definitely rare exceptions to the general rule that Republicans in >>congress are corrupt and refuse to stand up to corrupt leaders in their >>party. >> > > > Oh, I agree. > > >>Republicans are much more monolithic than Democrats are. Independent >>thinking by Republicans in Congress is an extreme rarity which is why it >>is >>extremely common for almost 100%, if not 100%, of the Republicans to vote >>just how their leaders tell them to vote. > > > My guess is they are about to get ousted big time from both houses in 06. > BTW, how many senate seats are up next november? > >>It's for the above two reasons that it's so important for any >>congressional >>Republican be defeated. > > > I may just vote straight democrat in the 06 elections...its gotten that bad. Yes, good idea for now...despite the Bills of the world. -JC ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: The REAL Disaster (NDC) Date: 18 Sep 2005 08:13:29 -0700 A guy walks into the local welfare office, marches straight up to the counter and says, "Hi... You know, I just HATE drawing welfare. I'd really rather have a job." The social worker behind the counter says, "Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a chauffeur and bodyguard for his beautiful nymphomaniac daughter. You'll have to drive around in his Mercedes, but he'll supply all of your clothes. Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort her on her overseas holiday trips. You will have to satisfy her sexual urges. You'll be provided a two-bedroom apartment above the garage. The starting salary is $200,000 a year." The guy, wide-eyed, says, "You're bullshittin' me!" The social worker says, "Yeah, well... you started it." ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: The Evens & Blind Beast (NDC) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:20:00 +0900 Saw The Evens (a duo with Fugazi's -- and Minor Threat's -- Ian MacKaye, and drummer Amy Farina who was in The Warmers with Alec MacKaye, Ian's brother) who played on a bill with Blind Beast, a noise supergroup with Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore, producer-musician Jim O'Rourke (see his awesome resume at http://tisue.net/orourke/ ) and Japanese drummer Yoshimi (of the Boredoms). It was good to check in with what Alec's been up to, as I hadn't really seen or heard Fugazi-related stuff or musicians since moving away from DC 9 years ago...nice, smart stuff. He closed out by saying it would be impolite not do one tune in the "fuck Bush" vein; musing that maybe Katrina will blow Bush away... Blind Beast was great: think the sum total of Thurston, Jim and Yoshimi squared -- if you know their stuff and potential, you can only imagine what went down! At times like GD space and noise (reminded me of the time Sonic Youth & Social Distortion opened for Neil Young), other moments as of Bjork injected herself into the proceedings, but never got to the point of sounding unpleasant or harsh. Nice... preview here -- http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fm20050911l1.htm -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: You Rupp! (B&P) ** CLOSED ** Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:12:40 -0400 I'll be contacting everyone who replied sometime later tonight or tomorrow morning. ~Ted ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Guitarist's pick their GD songs they would play. Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:43:09 -0400 "ba ba booie" wrote in message news:22283-432C7A97-99@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net... Keller Williams: "Bird Song," "Scarlet>Fire," "Brown Eyed Woman," "Eyes of the World," "Jack Straw, "Stranger, "Help," "Slipknot," " "Franklin's," "St. Steven," "The Eleven," "Candy Man," "High Time," "Black Peter," "Loser," "So Many Roads," "Dire Wolf," "'Till the Morning Comes," "Looks Like Rain," "Box of Rain" because they are all wrapped up together to be my favorite Dead song that I know and I can play them blindfolded with one leg tied behind my back while hanging by the other leg upside down on acid. HRYK!!!! Scot ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: The Hunting For the President Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:45:31 GMT Okay, whoever recommended that I watch Clinton on the bonus material, was RIGHT on the mark. Clinton is incredible linguist. His delivery is eloquent and his ability to use history to make a point, is uncanny. Unlike someone who's favorite book was The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Put this movie on your Netflix queue! ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Chainee to have surgery... Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:47:12 -0400 "Stephen St." wrote in message news:kK_We.1707$Jm.1395@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > It was leaning on the stage wall, 5/1/81...when after a smokin stranger > > franklins tower, I heard the first bits of Lost Sailor...and for that > one moment, Bob Weir was evil. Did Brew pay you say that? Enquiring minds want to know. Scot ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .