From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #316 Dead-Flames Digest #316, Volume #48 Sat, 17 Sep 05 15:00:02 PDT Contents: Guitarist's pick their GD songs they would play. (ba ba booie) Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit ("Bill") Re: The Bush clan are a bunch of criminals! (Tom Beck) Re: The Bush clan are a bunch of criminals! (Tom Beck) Re: Chainee to have surgery... ("Schmoe") Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit ("Stephen St.") Re: take the test go ahead I dare ya..... ("dyrewlf") I love a good Franklin's Tower ... ("Richard Morris") Re: Dr. John last night at Tokyo Blue Note (Tom Beck) Re: take the test go ahead I dare ya..... (Tom Beck) Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... ("Stephen St.") Re: Dr. John last night at Tokyo Blue Note ("Stephen St.") Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... (Ken Fortenberry) Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! ("Ray") Re: Taking food into Shoreline Amphitheatre... ("AirtimeJunkie") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Guitarist's pick their GD songs they would play. Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:20:39 -0400 Guitarist's pick their GD songs they would play. So Many Roads, Set 2: Guitarists' Dead Picks Mike Greenhaus and Benjy Eisen 2005-09-12 Last month we asked a number of guitarists to choose which song they'd perform if granted an opportunity to play on the road or in the studio with the remaining members of the Grateful Dead. Below we offer another round of guitarist picks, drawn from both in and out of The Dead's universe. Adam Aijala (Yonder Mountain String Band): I think I'd like to play on "Cumberland Blues" because it's a great song on probably my favorite Dead studio album, Workingman's Dead. I really like the country/folk edge of the entire album and especially the bluegrass feel of this song in particular (Jerry's playing banjo). More importantly, the guitar playing is accessible to me and I feel that I could maybe do this song justice while other songs I'd leave to more competent guitar players. Col. Bruce Hampton (Aquarium Rescue Unit/Codetalkers): Well, I don't consider myself as a guitarist and don't really know any of their tunes. I do know "Lovelight," but that was first written by Bobby Bland and Joe Scott and I played it back it '63---first song I ever played. David Gans: This is like going to a world-class restaurant and having to choose soup OR the entree OR dessert! But my choice would be "Terrapin Station" because it has several of the key elements: it starts with a folk tale set to a beautiful tune, includes a sweet opening for improvisation and then transitions into one of Jerry's most majestic and original compositions, all in service of some of Hunter's most incandescent writing (adapting a great folk song in the first part, and from his own visionary universe in the rest). This is a song I play in my "solo electric" show, so I'm prepared to play it and sing it with the passion it deserves. Ed McGee (ekoostik hookah/One Under): I'd pick "Dark Star" because I've always thought it was lacking and weak---kidding. But seriously, if we're talking about redoing previously recorded songs, I'd pick "Estimated Prophet." Always thought that song lent itself to studio approaches in a way others couldn't. As for newer material, I'd pick "Banyan Tree." Fantastic, creepy, groovy story song that could really develop well and put in 5.1. But, really, I have no business being in the studio with any of those mofos. Fuzz (Deep Banana Blackout): I just participated in the tribute to Jerry Garcia at the Gathering of The Vibes along with The Zen Tricksters, The Dark Star Orchestra, Tom Constanten, Melvin Seals and others. We did "Easy Wind" and I sang and played it. I dig the tune a whole lot because it is simply a great blues... it makes me imagine I am 'on the Bayou' (as it is stated in the chorus). Seriously though, the real kicker for me is the way the feel alternates between the slow 6/8 and the 4/4 groove. The riffs really seem to wrap around that rhythm perfectly and it gives it a distinctive sound =96 something that takes it out of the blues norm. There is also a great feel to open up with in the middle. Jack Pearson (The Allman Brothers Band): I'd like to do "Oh Glory How Happy I Am" by Gary Davis. I remember hearing them do another one of Rev Gary Davis tunes before. Yeah-- that would be great. Tell 'em to come on --- let's do it. John Kadlecik (Dark Star Orchestra): "Terrapin Station." I think that one covers a lot ground =97 great melodies, different improvisational sections with different moods to them and great lyrics. You could probably say that about most of them, but for me, that's the one=85 Keller Williams: "Bird Song," "Scarlet>Fire," "Brown Eyed Woman," "Eyes of the World," "Jack Straw, "Stranger, "Help," "Slipknot," " "Franklin's," "St. Steven," "The Eleven," "Candy Man," "High Time," "Black Peter," "Loser," "So Many Roads," "Dire Wolf," "'Till the Morning Comes," "Looks Like Rain," "Box of Rain" because they are all wrapped up together to be my favorite Dead song that I know and I can play them blindfolded with one leg tied behind my back while hanging by the other leg upside down on acid. Luke Reynolds (Blue Merle): I would love to play on "Jack Straw." The lyrics are just incredible. When I moved to Nashville, long before I joined Blue Merle, it was my dream to play with Lucinda Williams, Steve Earle or someone along those lines. "Jack Straw" really captures that vibe. I'd want to bring my entire arsenal of instruments ----guitar, pedal steel and keyboards---out on that song and set up a little work station. That song combines everything I love about The Dead. It's got the country influence, the rock influence and just great lyrics. Mark Diomede (Juggling Suns/Solar Circus): Well, for me, it would have to be "Dark Star." Because for me that was the thing that hooked me. The first time I saw them I was 15 years old and in1973 and it was on Jerry's birthday at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey. They were performing Dark Star, it was a general admission show and I was about 10 feet from the stage, in front of Jerry. They were doing what I used to call at the time their 'Insect Jam.' It was similar to some of the stuff that Phish really started doing later where they would do this atonal sounding music and it would reach a crescendo and then they would drop it back down. And they were about to reach the top of that crescendo, Jerry was just looking straight up at the stars, he was almost perpendicular, leaning back, and I said to myself, 'Man, I want to experience what that man is experiencing right now =97 the bliss and the music.' That to me is why I would choose Dark Star to play with those guys. That was the song and the moment that I knew I was going to play guitar for the rest of my life. Nat Keefe (Hot Buttered Rum String Band): First of all, while we're dreaming here, I would much prefer a live performance with the Dead. Their records are good but the concerts are great. Some of my favorite concerts happened in the early 70s. They used to play an amazing "Second That Emotion." Laying into his solo, Garcia would leave a lot of space and let the counterpoint of Phil's bass bubble up. In the music you can hear this youthful exuberance: "This is working! This is really working!" If I could channel a fraction of that energy for 15 minutes, I'd be a happy guy. Marc Roberge (O.A.R): This past spring we had the opportunity to actually back Bob Weir and Mickey Hart at a fundraiser for Senator Patrick Leahy in Washington DC. I was able to play guitar and sing on "Friend of the Devil." What can I say? I remember enjoying this tune as a kid, and here I was playing it with Bob Weir." Ryan Montbleau: I would just run! I'd freak out. I don't know if I could do it. Reid [Genauer] did 'Eyes of the World' with Dark Star [at Gathering of the Vibes 2005], and I wouldn't mind doing that one. Samantha Stollenwerk (The Ritual): I would love to play on "Cassidy." For one the song is close to my heart, since it was the first Dead song that really hooked me on them, so nostalgia plays a big part. The song was co-written by Bob Weir, so I identify with the rhythmic structure---I am a rhythm player and write the main bulk of my own songs on the acoustic, and this is such a strong song when played on the acoustic guitar. Steve Kimock: I'd like to play on "Crazy Fingers." I first encountered the tune as an instrumental big band arrangement. I was reading a chart, creating my own chord voicings and was just enchanted by the harmony. You can imagine my surprise when I heard the original version, what a great tune! I would probably wind up playing it on the Hawaiian guitar or ukulele. bbb wrote: Keller Williams was quoted as saying: because they are all wrapped up together to be my favorite Dead song that I know and I can play them blindfolded with one leg tied behind my back while hanging by the other leg upside down on acid. Fucking show off! I betcha he can play them all. I am jealous. .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:35:11 GMT "Stephen St." wrote in message news:nN_We.1709$Jm.580@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:URZWe.2919$5n4.207@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > > > "Stephen St." wrote in message > > news:QjZWe.1580$2J3.975@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > >> > >> "Richard Morris" wrote in message > >> news:YKWdnYaNat8GwLHeRVn-3A@comcast.com... > >> > > >> > "Stephen St." wrote in message > >> > news:InYWe.1564$2J3.1541@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > >> > > >> > snip > >> > > >> >> Louisiana is, by far, the most politicially corrupt state in the > > country. > >> >> And now there is gonna be a few hundred billion dollars going down > > there? > >> > > >> > Possibly ... but then Washington, DC is not technically a state. The > >> > political corruption there is staggering. Unfortunately, the fox is > >> > guarding the hen house at this point ... but that won't be the case > >> > forever. > >> > >> I agree, but I didnt want to include the uber corrupt congress and > >> senate. > >> All of them by the way. > >> > >> > I suspect you voted for the corruption, however, so it probably doesn't > >> > trouble you much. > >> > >> IMHO, anyone who voted anyone in office in DC voted for corruption. They > > all > >> suck. > > > > To put them all into the same basket is evidence of being pretty ignorant > > of > > the actions and interests of each of them. To put Tom Delay and Henry > > Waxman or a lot of the other decent Democrats (John Conyers, many of the > > Bay > > Area Democrats) can only come from someone who isn't paying attention. > > Yes, but you appear to put all republicans into the same basket by > mentioning only democrats as potential good guys. On the Republican side, there's a few decent ones that can be counted on one hand - definitely rare exceptions to the general rule that Republicans in congress are corrupt and refuse to stand up to corrupt leaders in their party. Republicans are much more monolithic than Democrats are. Independent thinking by Republicans in Congress is an extreme rarity which is why it is extremely common for almost 100%, if not 100%, of the Republicans to vote just how their leaders tell them to vote. It's for the above two reasons that it's so important for any congressional Republican be defeated. ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: The Bush clan are a bunch of criminals! Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:47:51 -0500 pv34pv3p wrote: > Oh...and none of us has ever been guilty of public intoxication??? > Or...not declaring something upon entering or exiting somewhere where > the items are prohibited??? Oh not me! Never, never, never! Cross my heart and hope to die. Tom "If you think more and more about less and less, you'll eventually wind up thinking all the time about nothing at all." ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: The Bush clan are a bunch of criminals! Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:50:13 -0500 Schmoe wrote: > ba ba booie wrote: > >>What a buncha lushes!!! >>What a buncha drug addict's!!! >>What a buncha liar's!!! >>What a buncha pussy's!!! >>What a buncha ???? > > > Yeah, Kinda like...well....us? Speak for yourself, Jackson. Tom ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: Re: Chainee to have surgery... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:48:55 -0400 Installing a heart? ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:55:11 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:36%We.1714$Jm.53@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > "Stephen St." wrote in message > news:nN_We.1709$Jm.580@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Bill" wrote in message >> news:URZWe.2919$5n4.207@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >> > >> > "Stephen St." wrote in message >> > news:QjZWe.1580$2J3.975@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> >> >> >> "Richard Morris" wrote in message >> >> news:YKWdnYaNat8GwLHeRVn-3A@comcast.com... >> >> > >> >> > "Stephen St." wrote in message >> >> > news:InYWe.1564$2J3.1541@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... >> >> > >> >> > snip >> >> > >> >> >> Louisiana is, by far, the most politicially corrupt state in the >> > country. >> >> >> And now there is gonna be a few hundred billion dollars going down >> > there? >> >> > >> >> > Possibly ... but then Washington, DC is not technically a state. >> >> > The >> >> > political corruption there is staggering. Unfortunately, the fox is >> >> > guarding the hen house at this point ... but that won't be the case >> >> > forever. >> >> >> >> I agree, but I didnt want to include the uber corrupt congress and >> >> senate. >> >> All of them by the way. >> >> >> >> > I suspect you voted for the corruption, however, so it probably > doesn't >> >> > trouble you much. >> >> >> >> IMHO, anyone who voted anyone in office in DC voted for corruption. > They >> > all >> >> suck. >> > >> > To put them all into the same basket is evidence of being pretty > ignorant >> > of >> > the actions and interests of each of them. To put Tom Delay and Henry >> > Waxman or a lot of the other decent Democrats (John Conyers, many of >> > the >> > Bay >> > Area Democrats) can only come from someone who isn't paying attention. >> >> Yes, but you appear to put all republicans into the same basket by >> mentioning only democrats as potential good guys. > > On the Republican side, there's a few decent ones that can be counted on > one > hand - definitely rare exceptions to the general rule that Republicans in > congress are corrupt and refuse to stand up to corrupt leaders in their > party. > Oh, I agree. > Republicans are much more monolithic than Democrats are. Independent > thinking by Republicans in Congress is an extreme rarity which is why it > is > extremely common for almost 100%, if not 100%, of the Republicans to vote > just how their leaders tell them to vote. My guess is they are about to get ousted big time from both houses in 06. BTW, how many senate seats are up next november? > > It's for the above two reasons that it's so important for any > congressional > Republican be defeated. I may just vote straight democrat in the 06 elections...its gotten that bad. I usually vote judges all democrat...just in case..lol ------------------------------ From: "dyrewlf" Subject: Re: take the test go ahead I dare ya..... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:58:06 GMT Only 1 wrong, that definitely helps explain that one night in Tijuana, See there was this.....oh nevermind. "seraphim" wrote in message news:77VWe.1372$am.820@news01.roc.ny... > http://www.eclecticwebs.com/funfile/RawStuff/HeShe/# > ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:00:49 -0700 One of my favorites has always been the version on Dead Set, recorded live at the Warfield Theater ... It probably isn't the best version out there, but they nailed the rhythmic feel for this tune from the get-go that night. Love the syncopated rhythm guitar lines about 11 seconds into the intro. Franklin's is a tune which lives and dies on syncopation, and those guitar strums establish the rhythmic feel for this entire version. Love the way the drummers were feeding that rhythmic feel with their single stick rolls into the one (examples at 53 seconds into the tune, and again a 1:06). These are the kind of nuances that a drummer can drop in when he or she is feeling absolutely comfie with the tune and wants to get cocky about it. Phil was letting it bounce through most of the tune. Jerry's first lead ... no big deal. Second lead, I think he switched to some finger picking to mix his lead rhythmically with Phil and the drummers. And it all hangs together so very, very well as ensemble play by the band. What's yer favorite Franklin? R. -- Drop "trousers" to respond via email. ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: Dr. John last night at Tokyo Blue Note Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:05:17 -0500 Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/arts/20050915TDY14001.htm > > ********************************************************** > From the above article: > "But this life came to an end when an ambitious New Orleans district > attorney, Jim Garrison, ordered a crackdown on the late night clubs and > prostitution, What would any fun city be without late night clubs and prostitution? Tom ------------------------------ From: Tom Beck Subject: Re: take the test go ahead I dare ya..... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:10:03 -0500 DG wrote: > JimK wrote: > >>seraphim wrote: >> >> >>>http://www.eclecticwebs.com/funfile/RawStuff/HeShe/# >>> >> >>Perfect score here. I always had an eye for the ladies! > > > > They would be great dates for Hateful Mark when he comes to SF. I'm sure he'll get his chance(s). If I know SF at all. Tom ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:07:57 GMT "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:7dKdnR2cN6ufGbHeRVn-hg@comcast.com... > What's yer favorite Franklin? > In person, for energy and moment, 1/8/79 On tape, 6/17/75 ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: Dr. John last night at Tokyo Blue Note Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:09:49 GMT "Tom Beck" wrote in message news:432C850D.4050905@pclink.com... > Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > >> http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/arts/20050915TDY14001.htm >> >> ********************************************************** >> From the above article: >> "But this life came to an end when an ambitious New Orleans district >> attorney, Jim Garrison, ordered a crackdown on the late night clubs and >> prostitution, > > What would any fun city be without late night > clubs and prostitution? Salt Lake? ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: I love a good Franklin's Tower ... Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:31:56 GMT Richard Morris wrote: > > What's yer favorite Franklin? The one I listened to from the lawn at Alpine Valley when there was a gentle summer rain in the late afternoon and I lay on the hillside with a poncho that served as both ground cloth and rain protection. The rain was sporadic and light, but every time the Dead sang "roll away the dew" the rain stopped. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! Date: 17 Sep 2005 14:33:02 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > For Christ sake Ray...haven't ya been spanked enough already? > > OK....Deep breath... > > >As you would've realized if you had done your homework before > >pretending to be knowledgeable enough to provide constructive criticism > >on this issue, > > You didn't even fuckin' know it was an issue until I posted it... Incorrect. And my, aren't we getting testy. In any event, hopefully you underestand now that your "How hard would it have been to send in 739 airconditioners?" comment was an ignorant and useless one. > What > were ya...6 or 7 at the time??? Quit acting like your 6 or 7 now.... Do you really think that swearing and juvenille insults advance your position, or make you look somehow more respectable? > >* Do you acknowledge that the Bush Adminstration's response during the > >first several days of the Katrina disaster was inexcusably poor? > > Poor??? How 'bout less than ideal...' No, and not just poor - *inexcusably* poor. For example, that the superdome was filled with tens of thousands of people who needed proctection and evacuation was all over the news, and yet the head of FEMA -- a part of the organization of the Bush Administration federal organization that declared itself to be the PRIMARY lead in large-scale disasters such as this one -- wasn't even aware of this fact, let alone addressing it. In my book that is inexcusably poor performance - if it's not in yours, then I'm damn glad that you (hopefully) aren't a FEMA manager. > Bout as far as I'm gonna go being > there was NO FUCKING RESPONSE from the local potato heads other than > sittin' round shittin' their pants and pointing fingers...When you got > 1 finger pointed a others there are always 3 ponted back at you... Unlike you, I have repeatedly said that there has been inexcusable performance here at ALL levels government. You, on the other hand, like so many other Bush apologists just choose to play the blame game by trying to focus all of the attention on the non-federal authorities while downplaying well past the point of ridiculousness the piss-poor and inexcusable federal response. > >* And since you brought up federal intervention re- controlling heat > >wave fatalities, do you agree that the Bush Adminstration shouldn't > >have rolled back the Clinton Administration standards re- air > >conditioning units? > > As was pointed out earlier..they only apply to central units...Go > ahead..Make the price of housing even further outa reach for > marginalized people...Better to have them paying the increased electric > bill in a house owned by the landlord, than their own? Rent money is > spent money...real estate appreciates. Even with interest.. half or > more is likely to come back to you eventually... I guess you missed the part in the detailed description about the issue that I appended to a previous post in this thread, which explained how more efficient air conditioners not only lower heat wave fatalities (that WAS your concern by initially bringing the Chicago heat wave fatalities up, wasn't it?), but they are also more economical. > >And speaking of questions (and facts) that you are continuing to run > >away from (quite amusing to watch BTW, esp. from a guy who claims that > >those who disagree with him are in "retreat"), please directly answer > >these questions that I previously asked you to as well, thanks: > > Someone decipher this drivel... Sure: you accuse others of "retreating" from the discussion here, and yet you continue run away from answering questions about it, even with regards to statements that you yourself have made. For example: > >* Why did you write "Don't start with that global warming shit again > >either..."? (A related question: Don't you think that the global > >warming is a relevent topic when discussing the hazards of heat waves?) > > Heat waves been killin' people forever...1936 St. Louis... > Until prolly 30 or 40 years ago, there was little that could be > done....AC was outa reach for almost everyone...Same goes for Hurricane > forcasting...Not really effective at the time...As far as global > warming...Look dude...it's enough of a struggle to get your head this > far out of your ass...We'll chew that fat some other day... Here you throw out some obvious statements in a condscending manner as if they somehow addressed the question -- they don't -- and also some more juvenille words. And you yet again run away from addressing the question. Let's try again (third time's a charm?): * Why did you write "Don't start with that global warming shit again either..."? Don't you think that the global arming is a relevent topic when discussing the hazards of heat waves? > >* What gives you that impression that "most here don't recognize there > >are limits to what any emergency plan can accomplish"? > > Oh....I don't fuckin' know... Your words, not mine. > Maybe it's because ya'll's knee jerk > reaction to everything is it's Bush's fault... So what part of "this disaster is a failure of government at ALL levels" - a sentiment repeatedly expressed by people here, including me, don't you understand? Are you really so blinded by your partisanship that you don't read and process these sentiments? Or are you just throwing out yet more mud in a highly partisan attempt at take the heat off of the Bush Adminstration and their piss-poor response to the disaster? Or maybe it's some combination of all three: a lack of understading, a prejudice to the point of blindess, and partisan mud-slinging propaganda as well. Ray ------------------------------ From: "AirtimeJunkie" Subject: Re: Taking food into Shoreline Amphitheatre... Date: 17 Sep 2005 14:36:22 -0700 Thanks for the tip. We have decided to skip the Greg Kihn Band. I think he sucks anyway. LOL Kevin ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .