From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #294 Dead-Flames Digest #294, Volume #48 Thu, 15 Sep 05 18:00:03 PDT Contents: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (Steve Lenier) Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("RandyStoner") 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! ("pv34pv3p") Re: Speaking of horns... ("Steve Terry") Re: The ultimate hippy vacation! ("Rogues Island's finest") Katrina Benefit, SF, 9/25/05 (leftie) Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie ("Stephen St.") Re: P&F Tour 2005 (Joe) Re: P&F Tour 2005 (Joe) Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (JC Martin) Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (Joe) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("Steve Terry") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Richard Morris") Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! ("YoMama") Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? ("Steve Terry") Re: Speaking of horns... (Joe) Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (Steve Lenier) Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (Joe) Hey New Guy! ("Steve Terry") Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Carlisle") Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (Joe) Re: Hey New Guy! ("Carlisle") Re: P&F Tour 2005 (Joe) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("Andrew Murawa") Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! (leftie) Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! (leftie) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie ("YoMama") Re: Hey New Guy! ("Steve Terry") Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (band beyond description) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:52:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) From: Steve Lenier in article 3ortfvF780paU1@individual.net, band beyond description at 123@456.com wrote on 9/14/05 5:27 PM: > On 2005-09-15 09:24:12 +0900, Joe said: > >> Well, when you come up with the definitive 16 CD Pink Floyd collection, >> I'll learn all about vines and SHN, real quick. >> >> Joe > > there's a lot of Floyd contained on this; read the full text and if you > want in...... or if you're too clueless and/or stuck in the 60s and/or in love with a redhead deadhead to understand vines and SHN, but would still like this music, let me know and when it's on my hard drive I'll burn copies for you in exchange for some DVDs or something Steve ------------------------------ From: "RandyStoner" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 15 Sep 2005 15:53:26 -0700 Having been born in LA and having lived in San Francisco and Sonoma County for many years, I question whether LA is very different from NorCal. Especially not the scale of difference as exists between liberal Massachusetts and conservative Alabama. Although, I will admit that the High Desert where I live now may be closer to Alabama than to Mass. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! Date: 15 Sep 2005 16:01:34 -0700 http://www.frontlist.com/detail/0226443213 pv34pv3p ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:18:46 -0500 wrote in message news:1126748996.807992.245360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does > work? > I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him > out, > and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock > without brass. > > In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. > > just a thought, not a sermon... Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, 'nuff said. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: The ultimate hippy vacation! Date: 15 Sep 2005 16:19:09 -0700 greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com wrote: > TNKEV wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Ultimate-Hippie-Vacation_W0QQitemZ5614695213 > > You should not dignify this by posting it. > > It was clearly put up by people who hate the very idea of hippies - > probably due to various personal deficiencies that they wish to mask. > > The "offer" is at best a set up. Plus I posted it this morning. And you are kidding, right? Mark ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Katrina Benefit, SF, 9/25/05 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:24:24 -0700 So, if you're in town for the Jerry Tribute thing, stick around the next night too: --fwd-- Hurricane Katrina Relief Benefit-with Everyone Orchestra-SF High Sierra Music and In Ticketing Present: A Hurricane Katrina Relief Benefit with The Everyone Orchestra Featuring Members of The String Cheese Incident, ALO, Hot Buttered Rum String Band, New Monsoon, Jambay, & Axis Brothers Plus: Audio Angel, Samantha Stollenwerk, Kirk Joseph and Special Guests Sunday, Sept. 25, 2005- 12 Galaxies (2565 Mission Street @ 22nd)-San Francisco, CA Tickets available now 1-800-55-Tickets or www.inticketing.com/evinfo.php Doors: 8:00 pm Show: 9:00 pm The evening's net proceeds will be donated to the non-profit, High Sierra Foundation, which has established a special fund to give direct aid to musicians and the music community of New Orleans affected by Hurricane Katrina. A silent auction will also be held giving people the chance to win concert tickets to High Sierra 2006, 12 Galaxies and Xingolati cabins as well as CD’s from High Sierra 2005 and other artists, clothing donated by Vintage Vantage, Inner Waves Yoga, contributing artists and more. ------------------------------ From: "Stephen St." Subject: Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:44:30 GMT "imsjry" wrote in message news:1126788957.796024.136270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > grtflmark wrote: >> ........ Bush continues to tell the truth - Broussard and the other New >> Orleans City and Louisiana State officials continue to lie and not take >> responsibility..... >> Not true. The mayor is now taking responsibility for getting the city open for business next week. The most politicially corrupt state in the country continues to show its colors ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 23:53:19 GMT Mizshely wrote: > Oh Joe, why should be back off. I have been laughing so hard I had to > change my depends twice. I'm just trying to look out for my fellow Marin residents and David Nelson Band fans. Make sure their rmgd experience isn't, umm, err, too psycho. But, I see you can handle yourself quite well on usenet. So, speaking of the hottest band on the planet, I'm going to miss the 2 David Nelson Band shows in Half Moon Bay. But, what about that new song, "Born A Dreamer"? I like it as much as Edge of the Wire. It's about as great as can possibly be. In any case, rmgd can be quite a hostile place to newbies, especially to women, so just put those who need it in their place, and you'll be fine here. It's actually a fun place, and most of those people you've seen me with over the years are people I met here. As they say, your mileage may vary. Now, give Dave Kelly that bitch-slapping he so rightly deserves, and one he'll never forget. Have at him... ;-) Joe ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 23:57:52 GMT wyeknot wrote: > Joe wrote: > > Dave Kelly - Back off. > Listen up folks, Joe's directing traffic 'round here now. > Yo, Hateful Matt. You're no longer my usenet stalker. You've been auctioned off to Ms Carrie, your new mistress. Be nice to her, or she'll be bitch-slapping you in no time. So, take a hike. That said, I have to admit: I like uppity women. Joe ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:59:26 GMT Dave Kelly wrote: > "JC Martin" wrote in message > news:sOjWe.13790$p%3.59832@typhoon.sonic.net... > >>kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>I had no idea the original band had reunited in the past actually. >> >>Peas, >>JC > > > Yo J > I had forgotten about that ....They were paid a HUGE amount > of $$ to play the warfield by some silicon valley millionaire. > I remember tix were extremely expensive also. > These punks need a reality check. That's exactly why I'm not going to this all-star BCT gig. Way too much money for what is a single night of nostalgia. I'm well feedin' that jonez. Anyone who wants to gimme a free ticket though, I guarantee I'd have a good time. By God, I just asked for my first miracle. -JC ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) Date: 16 Sep 2005 00:05:18 GMT Steve Lenier wrote: > or if you're too clueless and/or stuck in the 60s and/or in love with a > redhead deadhead to understand vines and SHN, but would still like this > music, let me know and when it's on my hard drive I'll burn copies for you > in exchange for some DVDs or something Well, Steve, I'm guilty as charged to all of the above. But Syd is stuck in the 60s too, in a psychotic sort of way, and yeah, I would like to hear those CDs. One of the DVDs I have on a 3 DVD-series of Pink Floyd are all of the videos made with Syd Barrett. So yeah, when I get back in mid-October, let's make a deal! The Floyd DVDs I have are: Pink Floyd - The Wall (performed live) 2 DVDs Pink Floyd - Live at KQED 1970 Pink Floyd - The Video Anthology - 3 DVDs Pink Floyd - Venice, Italy 7/15/89 That last one is, obviously, Pink Fraud. Oh, and I also have the reunion from July on DVD. Joe ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:07:59 -0500 wrote in message news:1126747297.935997.269500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >i happen to like jazz a great deal. i don't think you could classify > LOM > as 'true' jazz. it does share the improvisational elements, but LOM > has a unique sound. i would even dare say the sound is not even close > to what some would call 'fusion'. it is improvisational rock with a > horn section. > even the song selection is more oriented towards rock than jazz. > classifying LOM as a jazz band is a stretch. > > > -m > Well, I'm listening to Wonderin' Why from 4/6/75 right now and it sounds jazzy to me, but what do I know. Anyways, you're right, in that most of LOM's stuff is more straight ahead rock 'n roll. I've heard some of Fiero's playing and there were a few high pitched squeaks that caused me to cringe, but for the most part he was alright. I like this stuff. It's a nice change of pace from another China>Rider or Scarlet>Fire. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:09:14 -0700 "RandyStoner" wrote in message news:1126824806.503024.142350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Having been born in LA and having lived in San Francisco and Sonoma > County for many years, I question whether LA is very different from > NorCal. Especially not the scale of difference as exists between > liberal Massachusetts and conservative Alabama. Although, I will admit > that the High Desert where I live now may be closer to Alabama than to > Mass. > Starting out in LA and then coming north, it is perhaps less easy to see the differences between Northern California and Southern. For me, as a native NorCal guy, visiting Southern California is like going to a different country. R. ------------------------------ From: "YoMama" Subject: Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:18:19 -0700 I was not aware of this 1995 disaster which was caused by nature and made worse by bureaucracy and killed over 700 people during Clinton's presidency. And it would appear the victims were similar to those in the gulf area - the poor and elderly. Where was all the sound and fury then? As if the Chicago loss had no real presence. Why are the Katrina victims more newsworthy? How much of our concern is for these victims and how much is actually related to embarrassment caused by mistakes made at every level with the world watching? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:21:12 -0500 "Sean Baker" wrote in message news:11ij068hsl8f260@news.supernews.com... > "Steve Terry" wrote in message > >> I guess I haven't heard enough to dislike it. I just started listening to >> this stuff and am digging it so far. This Martin Fiero ranks right down >> there with Donna and Vince evidently. > > Why yer just an outright viscious person ain'tcha? > > Equatin' Donna with VINCE > > AND Martin I'm Fly Fierro? > > Meaness pure and simple. > > MEANESS. > > Just fer that I'm gunna listen to Deal from 4/19/78. Hey, I was just echoing sentiment that I've gathered from folks here on this newsgroup. Excepting Donna's wails in Playin in the Band I like her voice a lot. I especially enjoy her harmony stuff with Jerry: St. Stephen, for example. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: 16 Sep 2005 00:21:46 GMT The very first, and only the first, album by Blood, Sweat and Tears is still one of the best albums ever. So is Love's Forever Changes. Especially in person, with the horn section. Then again, I've seen Martine Fierro sit in with lots of people, and have no idea why some of you can't stand him. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:22:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) From: Steve Lenier in article 3oughtF7nf14U3@individual.net, Joe at joko@nospam.com wrote on 9/15/05 5:05 PM: > Steve Lenier wrote: > >> or if you're too clueless and/or stuck in the 60s and/or in love with a >> redhead deadhead to understand vines and SHN, but would still like this >> music, let me know and when it's on my hard drive I'll burn copies for you >> in exchange for some DVDs or something > > Well, Steve, I'm guilty as charged to all of the above. > > But Syd is stuck in the 60s too, in a psychotic sort of way, and yeah, I > would like to hear those CDs. > > One of the DVDs I have on a 3 DVD-series of Pink Floyd are all of the > videos made with Syd Barrett. So yeah, when I get back in mid-October, > let's make a deal! Woohoo! Pick me Monty, I didn't dress up like a chicken and an egg for no reason! Peck my beak when you get back. Steve ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:25:25 -0700 Steve Terry wrote: > Hey, I was just echoing sentiment that I've gathered from folks here on this > newsgroup. Excepting Donna's wails in Playin in the Band I like her voice a > lot. I especially enjoy her harmony stuff with Jerry: St. Stephen, for > example. Yeah, an' singin' w/ Bobby on some o' the best "Beat it on Down the Line"s ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 16 Sep 2005 00:25:34 GMT It wasn't until I got on rmgd that I found out that Donna sucked. Or, so I was told. I loved her back in the 1970s, and the Keith/Donna era is my favorite era of the Dead. Joe ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Hey New Guy! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:26:35 -0500 Okay, mister smarty pants Lighting Designer, how many deadheads does it take to change a light bulb? ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:27:58 -0700 Joe wrote: > wyeknot wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > Dave Kelly - Back off. > > > Listen up folks, Joe's directing traffic 'round here now. > > > > > Yo, Hateful Matt. > > You're no longer my usenet stalker. You've been auctioned off to Ms > Carrie, your new mistress. Be nice to her, or she'll be bitch-slapping > you in no time. So, take a hike. > > That said, I have to admit: I like uppity women. > > Joe Where do I go to claim my prize?? Matt may live to rue this day. ;} That said, I'm awful glad to hear that you like uppity women. Thanks. peazz&luvv, Ms. Carrie ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) Date: 16 Sep 2005 00:31:07 GMT Steve Lenier wrote: > Woohoo! Pick me Monty, I didn't dress up like a chicken and an egg for no > reason! Peck my beak when you get back. If I forget, I hope you'll remind me. I also hope that upon my return from Mexico, I won't be spending the entire next month on the toilet. Jose ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Hey New Guy! Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:32:47 -0700 Steve Terry wrote: > Okay, mister smarty pants Lighting Designer, how many deadheads does it take > to change a light bulb? Jimmy is currently out of the office: ========================================= So the question is: How many deadheads does it take to change a light bulb?? That's a good one..I'm gonna say, it depends on what's happening with the hallucinations. ;) ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 16 Sep 2005 00:36:55 GMT Carlisle wrote: > Where do I go to claim my prize?? Matt may live to rue this day. ;} I hope so; I certainly hope so. My loss will be your gain. I'm free; free at last. Joe ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:35:12 -0700 "Joe" wrote in message news:3ouhnuF7q6seU2@individual.net... > It wasn't until I got on rmgd that I found out that Donna sucked. Or, > so I > was told. I loved her back in the 1970s, and the Keith/Donna era is my > favorite era of the Dead. The Keith/Donna era is also my favorite era of the Dead, but I don't really think that has a whole lot to do with Donna (or Keith for that matter)... ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:44:04 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > http://www.frontlist.com/detail/0226443213 Nice try, pv, but a category 5 hurricane post-9/11 -- and post-Homeland Security taking over FEMA -- is a whole lot different than a heatwave pre-9/11. ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: 700 Dead in Chicago!...President/FEMA fail to act! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:47:27 -0700 There is a brief discussion of the federal response to the Chicago catastrophe here. http://www.gladwell.com/pdf/heatwave.pdf Please note what action Clinton took. Then note that Bush reversed it. Further note the reasoning. So thanks, pv, for showing us yet another reason Bush sucks! ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:49:16 -0700 Joe wrote: > It wasn't until I got on rmgd that I found out that Donna sucked. Or, so I > was told. I loved her back in the 1970s, and the Keith/Donna era is my > favorite era of the Dead. > > Joe ZAKLY!!!!!!!!! I wuz talkin' ta Jeff (Frndthdevl) behind Winston's jokin', sayin' "Things I've learned on RMGD: Donna sucks. Keith sucks. Eric Clapton sucks. The Rolling Stones suck. Steve Kimock Band sucks. Jimmy Herring sucks. etc., etc., etc. Didn't know any o' that till I started hangin' around here!" Don't get me wrong. I know what they say about opinions, but I do find it amusing nevertheless. Rick ------------------------------ From: "YoMama" Subject: Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie Date: 15 Sep 2005 17:54:27 -0700 "Nagin is either a moron or a loyal civil servant." I understand the "moron", but not the "loyal civil servant"... did somebody actually, specifically tell him not to do anything? Aren't the citizens and taxpayers and VOTERS in New Orleans his responsibility regardless? ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Hey New Guy! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:55:40 -0500 "Carlisle" wrote in message news:1126830767.067091.270680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Steve Terry wrote: >> Okay, mister smarty pants Lighting Designer, how many deadheads does it >> take >> to change a light bulb? > > Jimmy is currently out of the office: > ========================================= > So the question is: How many deadheads does it take to change a light > bulb?? > That's a good one..I'm gonna say, it depends on what's happening with > the hallucinations. ;) > Are you referring to the black light light bulb or the lava lamp light bulb? ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:57:03 +0900 On 2005-09-16 09:31:07 +0900, Joe said: > Steve Lenier wrote: > >> Woohoo! Pick me Monty, I didn't dress up like a chicken and an egg for no >> reason! Peck my beak when you get back. > > If I forget, I hope you'll remind me. > > I also hope that upon my return from Mexico, I won't be spending the > entire next month on the toilet. > Jose well, I'm gonna wrap up the vine and send it out. it's good that it sounds like you can get it later at your leisure from the domestic denizens...if any of you space it out, lmk. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .