From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #292 Dead-Flames Digest #292, Volume #48 Thu, 15 Sep 05 14:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore ("Ray") Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? ("LP") Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Mizshely") Re: Where can I borrow $100,000? (Tim Donohoe) Re: Anyone have a vacation coming up? ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 (DB) Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (JC Martin) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary (JC Martin) Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (JC Martin) Re: No Shame: The Federal Response to Katrina Was Not as Portrayed ("tim_ratdog") Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Dave Kelly") Re: The Meters at the Fillmore ("Dave Kelly") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary ("imsjry") The ultimate hippy vacation! ("TNKEV") Re: U.S. staggers toward 3rd World health insurance status (NDC) ("Andrew Murawa") Re: Where can I borrow $100,000? (ba ba booie) Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("The old geezer") Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Mizshely") Re: Here Comes....Donna ("Sean Baker") Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("sacha") Re: Heckle and J'yde ("Sean Baker") Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Andrew Murawa") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray" Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:48:37 -0700 kpnn...@yahoo.com wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > > Brad Greer wrote: > > > The original Meters are as good as it gets. $75 is a steal for this > > > show (I'd see them in New York if I wasn't out of town when they're > > > playing). > > > > > > > > The Meters are one of those special bands. It's really hard to state > > their impact on me. But I really worry whether these guys can put out. > > I'm all about nostalgia when it comes this unit. I don't want to hear > > any straighter grooves than what I heard on the records. That said, I > > may indeed take the risk. Sounds incredible! > > Do you have the San Francisco reunion show or the recent N.O. Jazzfest > set? The Jazzfest set is pretty good. $75? Hmmm... that's tough. I agree that the Meters are one of those special bands - their impact on New Orleans music (and me FTM) is hard to overstate. They are ground-zero for New Orleans funk. I caught their 2000(?) SF-Warfield reunion show, and the 2005 JazzFest show, and am going to the Fillmore show too (and the Vegoose show FTM). I thought the SF show was decent but not all that - they were doing a one-off for the money, and while they played fine enough it showed. I didn't mind though - I was just happy to have the chance to see them live. They really put out at the recent JazzFest show however - they were playing like it still mattered. I think that show is what gave them the impetus to tour again - they re-found their love for the music, and they realized that they could overcome their difference through that. That and the fact that Art Neville may not be able to tour for much longer (his back has been giving him major problems of late - he even had to be brought on to stage for the JazzFest show and at recent Nevilles shows) - they know that this may be their last chance to tour. Yeah $75 is a lot, and there are very few bands that I'd pay that much to see. And the original Meters is one of them - esp. at the Fillmore. Ray ------------------------------ From: "LP" Subject: Re: Why do Donna like THAT??? Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:56:09 -0700 >Just fer that I'm gunna listen to Deal from 4/19/78 She could really trash a good Deal. Playin' gets the most attention when it comes to Donna-bashing, but Deal was another prime example of how truly awful she was. Worst thing that ever happened to the band. Wince was like a godsend in comparison. LP ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 12:03:35 -0700 What ARE you rambling on about? The Nelson Band has more chops in their collective little fingers than you can shake a stick at. And Mookie Siegel is always a big part of that. On top of being the most talented musician in the David Nelson Band, he is an excellent singer. Exasperated and ragged but RIGHT (because I am ALWAYS right), Michelle McFee ------------------------------ From: Tim Donohoe Subject: Re: Where can I borrow $100,000? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:54:57 GMT ba ba booie wrote: > Where can I borrow $100,000? > > > > I have a chance to buy my fathers business & building with apartments. I > would be going in partners with someone else. My partner got approved > for a loan for $500,000 but we need 5% for a down payment. That is where > I need the $100,000. > It isn't likely that you will get a loan for a commercial property with less than 15% down. Unless someone is putting up collateral. > If the building gets sold my father said he would kick me back some of > the sale $$$. With that money I would use that to pay back the loan. > Would I tell the bank that? > Get the building appraised, don't cost your dad more money in taxes (and yourself more points and interest) so you can make payments on a loan that is too big for what you need. Plus, don't take out a loan so big that you will need to borrow money to make the payments. Sometimes you can get a better loan if the building is worth a lot more than you need to buy it, they can consider the instant equity your down payment. Best bet is to ask the people who will be giving you the money. > Should I go to a bank to apply for the loan or try one of those places > like http://www.lendingtree.com? > Try both. Explain the situation to a lender and let them offer you options. > I think my credit score is good/great. > > I filed way back in 1993, > so I think that has vanished. > > Where can I borrow $100,000? > There are other options you can consider if you can't get the money, one being buying half the building from your dad and letting him sell his half to your new partner. I'd be wary of this new partner if he can't answer these questions for you though. You will be tied to him for a long time once you sign the papers, if he turns out to be irresponsible, dishonest or a complete idiot you may have to start from zero again. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Anyone have a vacation coming up? Date: 15 Sep 2005 12:06:18 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > news:1126786876.461728.150950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Wondering where you can go for your vacation this year?? Well, HERE is > > your answer, fine RMGD folk: > > * I just gott a tell ya...yer good, Nantucket! > it AMAZES me how you can surf the web, make change > AND give directions without your toll booth supervisor > catching on!....now quick....what exit is Chepiwanoxet! > Route 27? > Correct! Nope, it's Rt. 95 to Rt. 117E to Rt. 1S to Chepiwanoxet. Follow the RR tracks, can't miss it! SpeedPass kills jobs! Mark ------------------------------ From: DB Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:55:24 -0400 Eli Renfro wrote: >>So who knows anything about this NJPAC place in Newark? > > > This is one of the finest venues in the NYC area. It is beautiful, clean > and acoustically perfect. > > ....and before the show, you can sample some of the best Portuguese food > around.....Mmmm....paella. > > With sausage mmmmmmmmmmmmm...... db ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:18:48 GMT kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >>Brad Greer wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "Dave Kelly" >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>The original band...Art Neville/Zigaboo/George Porter/Nocentelli >>>>November 18th & 19th >>>>Fillmore auditorium - San Francisco >>>>$75.00 >>>>Um....did I just type $75.00 >>>>Lemmee check. >>>>Yeah.....$75.00 >>>>Pass. >>>> >>> >>>The original Meters are as good as it gets. $75 is a steal for this >>>show (I'd see them in New York if I wasn't out of town when they're >>>playing). >> >> >> >>The Meters are one of those special bands. It's really hard to state >>their impact on me. But I really worry whether these guys can put out. >> I'm all about nostalgia when it comes this unit. I don't want to hear >>any straighter grooves than what I heard on the records. That said, I >>may indeed take the risk. Sounds incredible! > > > Do you have the San Francisco reunion show or the recent N.O. Jazzfest > set? The Jazzfest set is pretty good. $75? Hmmm... that's tough. I had no idea the original band had reunited in the past actually. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:20:22 GMT mpogoda@comcast.net wrote: > This thread blows me away. For years everyone seemed to be saying > "when are they going to release some LOM." Now that they do, the nay > sayers have emerged. I guess we all have our opinions (even when > they're wrong :) ) > > Personally, I would take Merl over Melvyn and Ron Tutt over any other > drummer in Garcia's various bands. Merl and his songs added another > layer to Garcia's playing; Tutt was a fireball that kept wonderful time > and added intricate rhytms that wove in and out of Kahn's bass lines. > Fierro, I'll grant you, can get a little annoying at times. He's sure > no great saxaphonist, but mostly fitted in very nicely except when he > was being too esoteric. > > For those of you that appreciate this amazing version of a Gracia Band > and if you're looking for the quintessential LOM show, you need to find > > 4/11/75 -- both sets from Tower Theatre in Philadelphia. It has the > best version of How Sweet It Is (think Morning Dew from 5/8/77) and the > best version of Tough Mama. Garcia couldn't have been any happier and > it shows. He seemed > dosed. He kept looking at his guitar and smiled as if he was as > amazed as anyone at what was coming out of it. Great versions of > every song played. Killer Wicked Messenger. But, Jerry and Merl really were better between in 1971-73. Peas, JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:22:07 GMT Ray wrote: > kpnn...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>JC Martin wrote: >> >>>Brad Greer wrote: >>> >>>>The original Meters are as good as it gets. $75 is a steal for this >>>>show (I'd see them in New York if I wasn't out of town when they're >>>>playing). >>> >>> >>> >>>The Meters are one of those special bands. It's really hard to state >>>their impact on me. But I really worry whether these guys can put out. >>> I'm all about nostalgia when it comes this unit. I don't want to hear >>>any straighter grooves than what I heard on the records. That said, I >>>may indeed take the risk. Sounds incredible! >> >>Do you have the San Francisco reunion show or the recent N.O. Jazzfest >>set? The Jazzfest set is pretty good. $75? Hmmm... that's tough. > > > I agree that the Meters are one of those special bands - their impact > on New Orleans music (and me FTM) is hard to overstate. They are > ground-zero for New Orleans funk. > > I caught their 2000(?) SF-Warfield reunion show, and the 2005 JazzFest > show, and am going to the Fillmore show too (and the Vegoose show FTM). > > I thought the SF show was decent but not all that - they were doing a > one-off for the money, and while they played fine enough it showed. I > didn't mind though - I was just happy to have the chance to see them > live. They really put out at the recent JazzFest show however - they > were playing like it still mattered. I think that show is what gave > them the impetus to tour again - they re-found their love for the > music, and they realized that they could overcome their difference > through that. That and the fact that Art Neville may not be able to > tour for much longer (his back has been giving him major problems of > late - he even had to be brought on to stage for the JazzFest show and > at recent Nevilles shows) - they know that this may be their last > chance to tour. > > Yeah $75 is a lot, and there are very few bands that I'd pay that much > to see. And the original Meters is one of them - esp. at the Fillmore. Mmm...now that's a good sell job. Will have to talk to my wife tonight about it.... -JC ------------------------------ From: "tim_ratdog" Subject: Re: No Shame: The Federal Response to Katrina Was Not as Portrayed Date: 15 Sep 2005 12:28:17 -0700 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > See, that's not what I said nor what I saw. I was referring to the > feedback and reporting *after* the storm had gone through NO, where > things were not as bad as some had expected (until the levees broke) > nor anywhere nearly as bad as the southern Miss. coast. You want > damage: see Waveland and Biloxi, where they took the direct hit. > > They reported what they saw: lotta broken windows, the same collapsed > brick wall they showed over and over and over again, but NO was *not* > in terrible shape until the levees broke. I really react to your previous statement: "That in fact, *everyone* thought that NO had survived Katrina in pretty decent shape, all things considered, until the levee broke on Tuesday". And with this statement " NO was *not* in terrible shape until the levees broke". I agree that you are just saying what you saw on TV but I am truly wondering if you took words like "it could have been worse, the levees could have broken" and that has influenced you to say "pretty decent shape, all things considered" and " NO was *not* in terrible shape until the levees broke"? Did someone on TV actually say "pretty decent shape, all things considered"? I have been unable to find anything like that in all my searching. I don't remember hearing anything like that till now. > I don't doubt that some were downplaying the storm before it hit, but > that is not what I've been arguing here for the last week or so. > > Whatever, some people (not referring to you, JC) won't accept any > information that does not fit their agenda, and there's no talkin' to > 'em. And, btw, I am not and never meant to imply that you are spinning anything. On the other hand I do believe that Those Who Are Not Playing The Blame Game are in fact using the same language in their spin. So, if you're talking about me you can expect to find yourself the new winner of the best-of CD I put together of Donna segments from 37 different Playins. -tim ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:30:09 GMT "Mizshely" wrote in message news:1126811015.599022.292960@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What ARE you rambling on about? The Nelson Band has more chops in their > collective little fingers than you can shake a stick at. And Mookie > Siegel is always a big part of that. On top of being the most talented > musician in the David Nelson Band, he is an excellent singer. > > Exasperated and ragged but RIGHT (because I am ALWAYS right), > Michelle McFee * Michelle....you ignorant slut! (OK...got THAT out of the way) Are you refering to the Davis Nelson Band?....Navid Delson Band? I'M speaking on the cat who used to play with the New Riders. I dont have a CLUE who you are talking about! The David Nelson band I refer to is a moderately talented bunch who are fronted by a marginally talented guitar player/singer ( and I use THAT term loosely!) that plays moderately enjoyable folk rock that TRIES....let me repeat myself TRIES to have some semblance to the Grateful Dead in the limited amount of improvisation that goes down on stage. The David Nelson I refer to has ties to the Grateful Dead family. He goes WAY back. His little band is good. Terms like "Psychedelic Fire Breathing Monster jams" gets bantered about on this newsgroup by chemically altered, but well meaning, individuals on a regular basis. I have NO control over that. You bring up "chops"...Are you refering to "Chop Sticks"?..."Pork Chops"? I have NO idea why these "chops" come up in a thread about the David Nelson Band. I would implore you to use this term with qualifying musicians. Good DAY, Miss! Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:33:13 GMT "JC Martin" wrote in message news:sOjWe.13790$p%3.59832@typhoon.sonic.net... > kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > I had no idea the original band had reunited in the past actually. > > Peas, > JC Yo J I had forgotten about that ....They were paid a HUGE amount of $$ to play the warfield by some silicon valley millionaire. I remember tix were extremely expensive also. These punks need a reality check. Cissy sweetbac ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary Date: 15 Sep 2005 12:42:56 -0700 mpog...@comcast.net wrote: > This thread blows me away. For years everyone seemed to be saying > "when are they going to release some LOM." Now that they do, the nay > sayers have emerged. I guess we all have our opinions (even when > they're wrong :) ) > > Personally, I would take Merl over Melvyn and Ron Tutt over any other > drummer in Garcia's various bands. Merl and his songs added another > layer to Garcia's playing; Tutt was a fireball that kept wonderful time > and added intricate rhytms that wove in and out of Kahn's bass lines. > Fierro, I'll grant you, can get a little annoying at times. He's sure > no great saxaphonist, but mostly fitted in very nicely except when he > was being too esoteric. > > For those of you that appreciate this amazing version of a Gracia Band > and if you're looking for the quintessential LOM show, you need to find > > 4/11/75 -- both sets from Tower Theatre in Philadelphia. It has the > best version of How Sweet It Is (think Morning Dew from 5/8/77) and the > best version of Tough Mama. Garcia couldn't have been any happier and > it shows. He seemed > dosed. He kept looking at his guitar and smiled as if he was as > amazed as anyone at what was coming out of it. Great versions of > every song played. Killer Wicked Messenger. Well then, maybe they just released some dud shows. I'll seek this one out. I was really disappointed with the Rhino release. Thin sound, flubbed lyrics, and when Jer ain't playing, nothing is happening! The horn guy bairly solos and Merl, well... ------------------------------ From: "TNKEV" Subject: The ultimate hippy vacation! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:57:03 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Ultimate-Hippie-Vacation_W0QQitemZ5614695213 ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: U.S. staggers toward 3rd World health insurance status (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:11:25 -0700 "Effty" wrote in message news:1126807705.160186.16190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This issue makes me sick. Well, I hope you have insurance then... ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Re: Where can I borrow $100,000? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:09:18 -0400 I just might as well say fuck it! To much involved. What with the taxes 12,000 a year) and the payments per month it might be one tough nut to crack. The heat now costs $2000.00 per month. I told my father to split up all the apartments with their own electric heat years ago. He never did it. So that means we supply the heat for the whole building. That sucks!!! Plus we have some white trash living up stairs. WHAT REALLY SUCKS IS, this fucking town is under rent control. Which means if you have 4 or more apartments then you are under ret control and you just can't raise the rent out of the blue. As of now we have 2 tenets living upstairs that have been there for over 30 years. That 30 freaking years!!! They are paying $300.00 per month for a two room apartment. Same apartment 1 floor up is going for $650.00 per month. Fucking dogs!! (I am doing the same where I live. Only I pay $500.00 for a 2 room (which is about the same size apartment as what we were renting) for the last 13 years. The only solution that I could come up with, is to join my partner at their store. I will move a couple of my machinery over there and just use their store as a front. I won't step on their shoes. I just don't want to lose my customer base. Shit, the equipment is not worth that much, but the accounts are. Still I want some of those machines. And so does my partner. They asked me if I would get jealous about customers coming in. I said no I wouldn't. Can an arrangement be worked out for that situation? One day if my partner wants the equipment later on down the road then I will sell it to them and the accounts also. Maybe I will work for them. How degradations. : ( A family business folds after 60 years in business. Fucking computers put the kyebosh on my business. I told my partners that I would pay them 60/40 for the rent. They said to me we would be happy for a 70/30 split for the rent. That would be cool. They are a nice couple. Hard working. I know some things about the town and business and have the balls to be fourth rite and hold the ground. I also have a machine operator/mechanics that will follow me and would benefit them as well as me. It kinda sucks trying to scramble around to find a job with my same customer base. Competition is not doing us any good. If ya can't beat them, join them? This is truly heartbreaking. Thanks for all your help : ) booie.......... .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ From: "The old geezer" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 15 Sep 2005 13:22:34 -0700 A few years ago I saw a movie called "Gangs of New York". I'm Irish & I'm sure glad I wuz born in 1951 instead of 1851!!!! The old geezer NP: Orange Crate Art - Brian Wilson & Van Dyke Parks ------------------------------ From: "Mizshely" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 13:30:12 -0700 David Kelly, it is YOU who are the ignorant slut. Of course I was referring to THAT David Nelson. I worked for both the New Riders (in the VERY old days, think Europe 72 and prior to that) and The David Nelson Band during its seminal years (1994-1999). I believe that not only biases my opinion (slightly) but qualifies me to comment objectively (or not, depending upon your opinion) on the musical merits of the band as a whole and the inidividual musicians. And let me state right here, I have always, always hated long extended jams and that "psychedelic crap" as done by just about ANYBODY, even the Dead, except in the very old Pig Pen days of the Dead. But I will defend the Nelson Band to the nth degree - they are very, very talented musicians, as I have said before, and that band is nothing short of magic. David does not TRY to be like the Dead - he was there at the beginning and shares the same history, so it is only natural that there is a musical resemblance. But David and his merry band are far superior to the ballyhooed Kimmock to which you referred earlier; they have paid their dues (in septuplicate, I might add) and deserve the respect of everyone on this board. And now, Mr. Kelly, should you ever be in MY vicinity, I suggest you cut a wide berth and stay well away from me. Good day your own self! That's MIZShely to YOU! ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: Here Comes....Donna Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:34:35 -0500 "LP" wrote in message news:1126810569.841428.156270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >Just fer that I'm gunna listen to Deal from 4/19/78 > > She could really trash a good Deal. Playin' gets the most attention > when it comes to Donna-bashing, but Deal was another prime example of > how truly awful she was. Worst thing that ever happened to the band. > Wince was like a godsend in comparison. > > LP I honestly dig Donna. Goin' Down the Road, Playin', Let me Roll It, Don't Let Go, some Sugaree's, Eyes, Sunshine Daydream, were honestly fantastic because she was there. She boosted Jerry. He dug her and it shows in the performances. Donna was not the commercial beauty voice though. That's why I love her voice. She sang what she felt. I dig hearin' her emotions. That said, '78 you can really hear that she's fatigued. The 4/19/78 Deal is one. Now, the encore from that show, man they had fun with that one. WoooOOOOAAAAaaaaaaAAAAWOOOooaaaaahhhhaaaaaaYYYYEEEEAAAAAeeeeEEEEYYYAAAeeeeYYYYAAeeyyyyaaahaaahahahayeeeaaayayeeyaeeeayayayyyay....PLAAAAYIN'..... Try singin that in the car, it's pure fun. It's pure from the heart craziness. 8/6/74 is a great example. Gotta go with it. Now, where's that Here Come Sunshine from....Baltimore Civic Center '74? Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: "sacha" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:35:55 -0600 Mooney was on the Daily show the other night...excellent interview. In fact all week is kinda fun, the theme is Evolution Schmevolution. Satire of the current creationist controversies. Great stuff, better than the straight news by far. Patrick -- The best things in life aren't things ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: Heckle and J'yde Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:37:01 -0500 "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message > SpeedPass kills jobs! > > Mark Hitch just puffed some Geraldine .... Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:44:01 -0700 "Mizshely" wrote in message news:1126816212.877147.130270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > David Kelly, it is YOU who are the ignorant slut. Of course I was > referring to THAT David Nelson. I worked for both the New Riders (in > the VERY old days, think Europe 72 and prior to that) and The David > Nelson Band during its seminal years (1994-1999). I believe that not > only biases my opinion (slightly) but qualifies me to comment > objectively (or not, depending upon your opinion) on the musical > merits > of the band as a whole and the inidividual musicians. > > And let me state right here, I have always, always hated long extended > jams and that "psychedelic crap" as done by just about ANYBODY, even > the Dead, except in the very old Pig Pen days of the Dead. But I will > defend the Nelson Band to the nth degree - they are very, very > talented > musicians, as I have said before, and that band is nothing short of > magic. > > David does not TRY to be like the Dead - he was there at the beginning > and shares the same history, so it is only natural that there is a > musical resemblance. But David and his merry band are far superior to > the ballyhooed Kimmock to which you referred earlier; they have paid > their dues (in septuplicate, I might add) and deserve the respect of > everyone on this board. > > And now, Mr. Kelly, should you ever be in MY vicinity, I suggest you > cut a wide berth and stay well away from me. > > Good day your own self! > > That's MIZShely to YOU! 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