From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #291 Dead-Flames Digest #291, Volume #48 Thu, 15 Sep 05 12:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 (leftie) Re: Bled Dry - Energy Prices Re: La Luna Espanola ("Sean Baker") Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (leftie) Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("pv34pv3p") Re: naturally we don't want war (ndc) (band beyond description) Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt (leftie) Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: No Shame: The Federal Response to Katrina Was Not as Portrayed ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: The Meters at the Fillmore (leftie) Re: La Luna Espanola ("mjd") Re: U.S. staggers toward 3rd World health insurance status (NDC) ("Effty") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Ray") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt (leftie) Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) (JimK) Why don't I like Legion of Mary (mpogoda@comcast.net) Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Bled Dry - Energy Prices ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: The War On Science (NDC) (Tim Donohoe) Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) ("Andrew Murawa") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:33:49 -0700 wrote in message news:1126800730.860901.222150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > About a year ago I signed some papers to get in on a class action law > suit with my employer. This suit was all about the company's less > than honorable employee designation of exempt vs. nonexempt. Exempt > employees are just that, exempt from any OT pay but not massive amounts > of OT work. So, the bosses from above told us to sign on and if we were > eligible, we'd get some money. The months passed and I never really > gave any thought to what I'd eventually do with the $7.12 that would > probably be awarded each of us exempt folks. Well, hot f**king damn, > $1,600.70 has been deposited into my bank account. > > So guys, this round of beer (or beverage of your choice) is on me and I > can now afford to fill my oil tank so the kid can have heat this > winter... OK, the next worry is the natural gas bill... > > > Theresa Good for you! My old company had a similar suit; employees who were obviously not supervisory or management employees were classified as exempt so the company could avoid paying them OT, which they all had to work for years because the endless reorganizations the company was so fond of left most facilities with far fewer staff than was necessary to run the business. I couldn't believe the lameass justifications for the classifications offered by our crack staff of grossly overpaid "human resources professionals". An auto claims adjuster is exempt because he had a certain draft authority that allowed him to write checks for damages without needing approval from a supervisor???? I supervised and later managed many of these people; people who had zero direct reports and zero supporting staff. I was always correctly classified as exempt. So the suit gets settled, and all of a sudden I'm managing people who had just received checks ranging from a couple thousand dollars all the way up to 40k-50k. Many bad attitudes turned positive; and many good attitudes turned cocky and superior. Work......... so glad I'm done with that nonsense. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) Date: 15 Sep 2005 09:46:00 -0700 You know Brew, I've been kicking that one around. I'm quite happy with my speakers. They're old Dynacos from the mid 70s and still kick ass. Perhaps a new receiver, though (that's still from the 70s). Theresa ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:49:48 -0700 JimK wrote: > This tour runs from November 21 through December 13. Why is it being > referred to as a Winter tour? If you're asking this question, I'm thinking you've never spent much time in Buffalo or Albany in early December. Screw the calendar: it's winter there then! ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Bled Dry - Energy Prices Date: 15 Sep 2005 16:50:05 GMT Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > "Tom Beck" wrote in message > news:4328CB14.6020400@pclink.com... >> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Let me extol the virtues of more than adequate insulation. >>> >>> I used to pay $50 for gas and in the summer almost $300 for electricity >>> when I lived in Vegas. >>> >>> Now that I'm in a cold climate (sunny, but cold) and have no gas service, >>> I depend on electric heat and hot water. No fireplace, no stove (yet). >>> Temps are down in the low 40's every night and have gone below 32 a >>> couple times already. >>> >>> I've turned the heat on once so far, for about 20 minutes. My electric >>> bill (my only one) was $42 last month. >>> >>> The house has lots of windows that face southwest. The house warms up >>> from the sun in the daytime and stays warm at night. In summer I just >>> closed the blinds and the house stayed cool (no air conditioning either). >>> >>> I do have room for a stove, and can get a wood cutting permit from the >>> Forest Service that would allow me to obtain fuel for almost free, but so >>> far I don't see the need. >>> >>> Lows in winter average in the 20's at night so we'll see. >>> >>> EGBH > > >> Good insulation is, of course, quite important. >> When it comes to producing the heat, I feel the >> best approach is not to try and make wood your >> sole source of it, but rather just to take the >> edge off your energy bills. My parents live in >> a similar situation to what you describe, and use >> electric baseboard heat and a couple high efficiency >> wood stoves. One between the kitchen and front >> living area and the other in the basement to heat >> my Dad's workshop. It works out very nicely. Set >> the thermostat for the electric low and when you want >> it warmer heat up the stove. And it really, really >> works. > > > Sounds great. > > My place has an unusual setup (as in cheapo); separate electric wall heaters > in each room, each with their own thermostat. Pretty normal for Oregon - due to the BPA and the fact that Oregon historically enjoyed extremely low electric prices electric heat was the norm in the past, either in wall or baseboard. This past cheap electricity has also led to the average Oregonian household using ~2x the electricity of a similar household in California. -- Aaron ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: La Luna Espanola Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:51:59 -0500 "JC Martin" wrote in message news:awgWe.13758$p%3.58827@typhoon.sonic.net... > mrose101 wrote: >> the.stugots@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Little Feat is another rock band that > worked well with horns. > -JC Hookers n' hustlers filled up the room, down at that place they call... Spanish Moon.... Whiskey, an' Bad Cocaine... Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:03:54 -0700 Eli Renfro wrote: >>>The Meters are one of those special bands. It's really hard to state >>>their impact on me. But I really worry whether these guys can put out. >>> I'm all about nostalgia when it comes this unit. I don't want to hear >>>any straighter grooves than what I heard on the records. That said, I >>>may indeed take the risk. Sounds incredible! >>> >> >>George Porter Jr. and Art Neville can still put down a serious groove >>together, haven't heard Leo or Zigaboo live in a long time (last time >>for Leo was at least 10 years back at the Wetlands, not sure at all >>with Zigaboo). I'd expect them to put on a seriously funky show. > > > There should be no concern over Leo's current ability. Flat...out...smokes. > > Ziggy - not sure. Ever since Zig's heart attack a few years back he's on top of his game again. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 15 Sep 2005 10:06:07 -0700 Indeed. And speaking of the map you provided a link to is too red - the proper map to most accurately convey the political sentiments of our country is the purple one that I linked to that incorporated shades to take into account percetages by county and also distorted space to take into account population distribution. > pv34pv3p(Like we need another reason to drink beer...) It's as good as any. Ray Ray, I'm in complete agreement with using the purple/distorted space as the "most accurate" model for running the same demographics...Sorry if that wasn't more apparent... While the original red/blue state stats may be "accurate in the aggregate" the same would apply to the red/blue county stats...(the accuracy of which (to my knowlede) has not been scientifically shown to be flawed...I only posted the county map to expose the flawed logic of the original post, and how it cuts the to other way... As you pointed out, and I wholehartedly agree...neither would be precise representations of their claim to some sort of geographic/demographic superiority... For that to be truly known, the numbers would have to be run using the purple/distorted map...and again...the percentages claimed in the original post would be (perhaps agreeably?) different. Must be getting early...clocks are running late. Paint by number morning sky...looks so phoney And to me it don't matter what color the cool aid stands are pushing...they're both toxic... pv34pv3p(Well my telephone was ringin' and they told me, it was Chairman Mao...) pv34pv3p( ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: naturally we don't want war (ndc) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:06:19 +0900 On 2005-09-15 05:42:39 +0900, "Roxanne McDaniel" said: > Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the > country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag > the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a > parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can > always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have > to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for > lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." > -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials after WWII Haunting quote. But the parallel to the present-day stopped when/because: 1) Ol' Herman actually stood in the dock for war crimes... 2) Herman dutifully took his cyanide... -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:09:28 -0700 These maps help explain the election results accurately. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/ ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: 15 Sep 2005 10:18:27 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Brad Greer wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "Dave Kelly" > > wrote: > > > > > >>The original band...Art Neville/Zigaboo/George Porter/Nocentelli > >>November 18th & 19th > >>Fillmore auditorium - San Francisco > >>$75.00 > >>Um....did I just type $75.00 > >>Lemmee check. > >>Yeah.....$75.00 > >>Pass. > >> > > > > The original Meters are as good as it gets. $75 is a steal for this > > show (I'd see them in New York if I wasn't out of town when they're > > playing). > > > > The Meters are one of those special bands. It's really hard to state > their impact on me. But I really worry whether these guys can put out. > I'm all about nostalgia when it comes this unit. I don't want to hear > any straighter grooves than what I heard on the records. That said, I > may indeed take the risk. Sounds incredible! Do you have the San Francisco reunion show or the recent N.O. Jazzfest set? The Jazzfest set is pretty good. $75? Hmmm... that's tough. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: No Shame: The Federal Response to Katrina Was Not as Portrayed Date: 15 Sep 2005 10:24:26 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > Mark_Reich...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > >>Rogues Island's finest wrote: > >> > >>>That's a fair question, and I have no idea what the Navy policy is on > >>>such things. It's important to remember that New Orleans woke up on > >>>Tuesday morning thinking that they'd dodged the bullet. > >> > >>That's Republican spin. Just go try to find reports at the time that > >>New Orleans had "dodged the bullet". The local paper was already > >>talking catastrophe. > > > > > > Fuck you and your sweeping stereotypes. I *watched* live reports on > > CNN, MSNBC, and FOX on Monday evening and very early Tuesday morning > > where they used this *exact* phrase repeatedly. > > > > You're right. My local news said it well. One problem. They were > saying this as the hurricane first touched down on New Orleans, > basically surmising that the worst part of the hurricane wasn't going to > hit New Orleans, therefore they were gonna be okay. Just really piss > poor reporting on this from all media outlets. No conspiracy, just > plain stupidity. See, that's not what I said nor what I saw. I was referring to the feedback and reporting *after* the storm had gone through NO, where things were not as bad as some had expected (until the levees broke) nor anywhere nearly as bad as the southern Miss. coast. You want damage: see Waveland and Biloxi, where they took the direct hit. They reported what they saw: lotta broken windows, the same collapsed brick wall they showed over and over and over again, but NO was *not* in terrible shape until the levees broke. I don't doubt that some were downplaying the storm before it hit, but that is not what I've been arguing here for the last week or so. Whatever, some people (not referring to you, JC) won't accept any information that does not fit their agenda, and there's no talkin' to 'em. Mark ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie Date: 15 Sep 2005 10:31:22 -0700 The Lord of Eltingville wrote: > imsjry wrote: I wont even ask what > > "charactor" Bush has showed. Maybe it was using some poor victims for > > photo ops ONE WEEK after the hurricane. Or maybe it was his half-assed > > attempt at taking some responsiblity. Or was it when he offered to help > > rebuild poor Tom DeLay's house? That showed real charactor. > > > > I take it you didn't see the photos of Bush in New Orleans. He had his > sleeves rolled up, dammit! You don't do that unless you're prepared to > do some real work. http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoView.jsp?&collid=11283957906&photoid=175537113106 ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) Date: 15 Sep 2005 10:45:48 -0700 imsjry wrote: > Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote: > > Fuck him and eveyone who looks like him... > > Yeah, how dare he try to help those poor people? Isn't that what the > government is for? And that whole stopping the war bullshit? What a > dick.. It never ceases to astound me (and I see it ALL the time) when right-wingers get angry about people trying to help others!!! Like this guy I work with here getting all bent out of shape because of the "Shelter from the Storm: A Concert for the Gulf Coast" event. All smiles when were spending time, money and effort to shoot somebody or blow something up, but God (if there were such a thing) for-fuckin-bid anybody try to HELP their fellow human being!!! That REALLY pisses 'em off!!!! Rick Makes me puke! ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:52:16 -0700 Find out fer yerself about the current Meters: Tonight, Thursday, Sept 15 The Meters and The Neville Brothers on the Late Show with David Letterman http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/ ------------------------------ From: "mjd" Subject: Re: La Luna Espanola Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:02:10 -0700 >Hookers n' hustlers filled up the room, down at that place they call... >Spanish Moon.... >Whiskey, an' Bad Cocaine... >Peace, >Sean copy that - HRYK LG: "...Tower of Power HORNS!" ------------------------------ From: "Effty" Subject: Re: U.S. staggers toward 3rd World health insurance status (NDC) Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:08:25 -0700 This issue makes me sick. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:10:04 -0700 pv34pv3p wrote: > Ray, > > I'm in complete agreement with using the purple/distorted space as the > "most accurate" model for running the same demographics...Sorry if that > wasn't more apparent... > > While the original red/blue state stats may be "accurate in the > aggregate" the same would apply to the red/blue county stats...(the > accuracy of which (to my knowlede) has not been scientifically shown to > be flawed...I only posted the county map to expose the flawed logic of > the original post PV, There is no "flawed logic" in the original post. The original post made a joke out of the idea of blue *states* seceding from the union, and if the blue states did in fact secede then the breakdown would be as characterized. >, and how it cuts the to other way... Even if the broken down by county, which it wasn't, as noted previously many of the same characterizations would still hold. HTH, Ray ------------------------------ From: leftie Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:13:20 -0700 leftie wrote: > These maps help explain the election results accurately. > > http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/ I see that link was already posted earlier in the thread... D'oh! ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Hot Damn, Money from my Corporate Murika Scum of an Employer (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:13:53 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:33:49 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote: > > wrote in message >news:1126800730.860901.222150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> About a year ago I signed some papers to get in on a class action law >> suit with my employer. This suit was all about the company's less >> than honorable employee designation of exempt vs. nonexempt. Exempt >> employees are just that, exempt from any OT pay but not massive amounts >> of OT work. So, the bosses from above told us to sign on and if we were >> eligible, we'd get some money. The months passed and I never really >> gave any thought to what I'd eventually do with the $7.12 that would >> probably be awarded each of us exempt folks. Well, hot f**king damn, >> $1,600.70 has been deposited into my bank account. >> >> So guys, this round of beer (or beverage of your choice) is on me and I >> can now afford to fill my oil tank so the kid can have heat this >> winter... OK, the next worry is the natural gas bill... >> >> >> Theresa > > >Good for you! > >My old company had a similar suit; employees who were obviously not >supervisory or management employees were classified as exempt so the company >could avoid paying them OT, which they all had to work for years because the >endless reorganizations the company was so fond of left most facilities with >far fewer staff than was necessary to run the business. I couldn't believe >the lameass justifications for the classifications offered by our crack >staff of grossly overpaid "human resources professionals". An auto claims >adjuster is exempt because he had a certain draft authority that allowed him >to write checks for damages without needing approval from a supervisor???? > >I supervised and later managed many of these people; people who had zero >direct reports and zero supporting staff. I was always correctly classified >as exempt. > >So the suit gets settled, and all of a sudden I'm managing people who had >just received checks ranging from a couple thousand dollars all the way up >to 40k-50k. > >Many bad attitudes turned positive; and many good attitudes turned cocky and >superior. > >Work......... so glad I'm done with that nonsense. > >EGBH > > I used to work for the Labor Department in CT. You have no idea how widespread this type of wage law violation is. I have some issues with unions, but I feel pretty confident in stating that the downfall of unions and the rise of the Republican party has resulted in a corresponding increase in all sorts of employment law violations. JimK ------------------------------ From: mpogoda@comcast.net Subject: Why don't I like Legion of Mary Date: 15 Sep 2005 11:22:39 -0700 This thread blows me away. For years everyone seemed to be saying "when are they going to release some LOM." Now that they do, the nay sayers have emerged. I guess we all have our opinions (even when they're wrong :) ) Personally, I would take Merl over Melvyn and Ron Tutt over any other drummer in Garcia's various bands. Merl and his songs added another layer to Garcia's playing; Tutt was a fireball that kept wonderful time and added intricate rhytms that wove in and out of Kahn's bass lines. Fierro, I'll grant you, can get a little annoying at times. He's sure no great saxaphonist, but mostly fitted in very nicely except when he was being too esoteric. For those of you that appreciate this amazing version of a Gracia Band and if you're looking for the quintessential LOM show, you need to find 4/11/75 -- both sets from Tower Theatre in Philadelphia. It has the best version of How Sweet It Is (think Morning Dew from 5/8/77) and the best version of Tough Mama. Garcia couldn't have been any happier and it shows. He seemed dosed. He kept looking at his guitar and smiled as if he was as amazed as anyone at what was coming out of it. Great versions of every song played. Killer Wicked Messenger. I have two aud versions of this. One I got in May or June, 75 from a taper at the show that I recently had transferred to CD and the other from another source. Both have their merits. I wish there was a good SBD of this one. I've heard most of the LOM and attended their last 5 shows in the Bay Area and I still have to go with this one. I haven't picked up the compilation yet. Many of the songs came from the shows at the American Music Hall in July that I attended, but already have on CD. Seek out 4/11/75 and you won't be disappointed (unless of course no good LOM is good enough). Maurice ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:08:33 -0400 RickNBarbInSD wrote: > > The Lord of Eltingville wrote: > > imsjry wrote: > > I wont even ask what > > > "charactor" Bush has showed. Maybe it was using some poor victims for > > > photo ops ONE WEEK after the hurricane. Or maybe it was his half-assed > > > attempt at taking some responsiblity. Or was it when he offered to help > > > rebuild poor Tom DeLay's house? That showed real charactor. > > > > > > > I take it you didn't see the photos of Bush in New Orleans. He had his > > sleeves rolled up, dammit! You don't do that unless you're prepared to > > do some real work. > > http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoView.jsp?&collid=11283957906&photoid=175537113106 H2O|n>k ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Bled Dry - Energy Prices Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:34:28 -0700 wrote in message news:kT2heti7In7eN3l@redshark.goodshow.net... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >> >> "Tom Beck" wrote in message >> news:4328CB14.6020400@pclink.com... >>> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me extol the virtues of more than adequate insulation. >>>> >>>> I used to pay $50 for gas and in the summer almost $300 for electricity >>>> when I lived in Vegas. >>>> >>>> Now that I'm in a cold climate (sunny, but cold) and have no gas >>>> service, >>>> I depend on electric heat and hot water. No fireplace, no stove (yet). >>>> Temps are down in the low 40's every night and have gone below 32 a >>>> couple times already. >>>> >>>> I've turned the heat on once so far, for about 20 minutes. My >>>> electric >>>> bill (my only one) was $42 last month. >>>> >>>> The house has lots of windows that face southwest. The house warms up >>>> from the sun in the daytime and stays warm at night. In summer I just >>>> closed the blinds and the house stayed cool (no air conditioning >>>> either). >>>> >>>> I do have room for a stove, and can get a wood cutting permit from the >>>> Forest Service that would allow me to obtain fuel for almost free, but >>>> so >>>> far I don't see the need. >>>> >>>> Lows in winter average in the 20's at night so we'll see. >>>> >>>> EGBH >> >> >>> Good insulation is, of course, quite important. >>> When it comes to producing the heat, I feel the >>> best approach is not to try and make wood your >>> sole source of it, but rather just to take the >>> edge off your energy bills. My parents live in >>> a similar situation to what you describe, and use >>> electric baseboard heat and a couple high efficiency >>> wood stoves. One between the kitchen and front >>> living area and the other in the basement to heat >>> my Dad's workshop. It works out very nicely. Set >>> the thermostat for the electric low and when you want >>> it warmer heat up the stove. And it really, really >>> works. >> >> >> Sounds great. >> >> My place has an unusual setup (as in cheapo); separate electric wall >> heaters >> in each room, each with their own thermostat. > > Pretty normal for Oregon - due to the BPA and the fact that Oregon > historically enjoyed extremely low electric prices electric heat was the > norm in the past, either in wall or baseboard. This past cheap electricity > has also led to the average Oregonian household using ~2x the electricity > of > a similar household in California. Huh. Of course I use zero natural gas............. EGBH ------------------------------ From: Tim Donohoe Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:40:44 GMT Ray wrote: > > I'll give you this much however - generally speaking (although > depending on a variety of factors, including artist and mood), I'll > take Gregorian Chants over rap. > > Ray > Did the chanters thank god every time they won a grammy? ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:46:10 -0700 "JimK" wrote in message news:aoohi1lf754pteiqrakb92av087nvnskjs@4ax.com... > On 14 Sep 2005 09:38:34 -0700, "Rogues Island's finest" > wrote: > >> >>leftie wrote: >>> Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote: >>> > Fuck him and eveyone who looks like him... >>> >>> You mean overweight people, like, say, Jerry Garcia? >> >>Jerry wasn't overweight, he was big boned. >> >>Mark > > Nope, he was just too short for his weight. If only he could have > gotten taller, he still might be with us. More importantly he was too short for his height... ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .