From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #288 Dead-Flames Digest #288, Volume #48 Thu, 15 Sep 05 06:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("The Iron Muffin") GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh & Friends winter tour 2005 (ba ba booie) U.S. staggers toward 3rd World health insurance status (NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) ("band beyond description") Re: Gigantic CD Giveaway ("band beyond description") Re: CD Giveaway (Junter522) Re: Dead Can Dance (Junter522) Re: Speaking of horns... ("Mr Jimmy") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt (the wharf rat) Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Nick's Picks") Jerry Quote 09-15-05 ("observer part II") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("pv34pv3p") The rap community steps up...(ndc) ("Rogues Island's finest") Anyone have a vacation coming up? ("Rogues Island's finest") The Weemawompas (Sean) Re: Is there a right way to seal a smoke when using Club papers? ("ck") Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie ("imsjry") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TunedInDude@webtv.net (Wayne) Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:08:58 -0700 Let us know how it turned out. I was thinking of going to see them at the Hollywood Bowl next weekend. It's either them or ZZ Top at the LA County Fair. Your opinion will influence my decision. Wayne ------------------------------ From: "seraphim" Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:17:30 GMT I am hitting Radio City, and I am very excited please post a review on the show!! "Kelly Humphries" wrote in message news:0rrhi1tk9tdo14aivjjhjn1rheo4l1cm79@4ax.com... > At least, I'll find out if they still can, this Saturday at the > beloved Paramount Theater (inconveniently located at ground zero of > light rail construction downtown, so I'll be making use of that free > bus pass from the day job, thanks). > > Anyone else going? > > Didn't think so. > > What, you got something against bands who haven't recorded an album in > nearly ten years? ;-) Bah. Have fun, whatever you're doing that > night.... ------------------------------ From: blackboomer@gmail.com Subject: New Ipod Nano Just Released, Free (with only 2 referrals) Date: 15 Sep 2005 00:44:23 -0700 This is for the Brand New Ipod Nano which replaced the mini a week ago they are $200 at the apple store, get it here 4 free 1) Go to http://nanoipod4free.com/index.php?referral=256 and sign up 2)Do one free offer 4) Get only 2 referals 5) Then just wait for your FREE Ipod Nano to arrive (1-2 weeks)!!! This is for real ------------------------------ From: ba_ba_b00ie@webtv.net (ba ba booie) Subject: Is there a right way to seal a smoke when using Club papers? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:30:53 -0400 cpkver8@BURDENadelphia.net (ck) wrote: =A0=A0i always only rolled with s.d. modiano clubs sans glue. the little ones... bbb wrote: I think I have used those kind of papers. Were those the one's with the glue over the whole paper? Is that these papers? :http://store1.yimg.com/I/buddhasbellyonline_1859_45411168 I just remember using papers called Club. With the older guy on the cover. The question I have is, in my daze of using these papers I have come across a couple of ways to seal the smoke when your are done wrapping it. Which one is right? (1) I have seen some people shred a thin piece off of the top of the sheet. Then slobber over the whole thing until it was sealed. (2) I have seen some people just wrap the whole thing and then just slobber all over it until it was saturated and then all the glue on the paper just gelled together. (3) I have seen some people just lick the top of the paper like there was glue on the top. Is there a right way and wrong way to seal those kind of papers? I used method #3. Out off all papers in the world I like to roll with those. I think there selling point is that it leaves no ash or very little? I gotta find some of those. They were pretty good back in the daze. But sometimes it just unrolled. There was no consistency. That's why I like/switched to E-Z wider lites. They are not the greatest, but the glue is amazing. Some people say the glue is from some kind of goop. Anyone know any info on that? I will try to seek out Club papers in my local tobacco shop. Usually you only find them in hippie/Rasta shops. What is with the hippies and their club papers? Is there a right way to seal a smoke when using Club papers? .. .. Have you checked these sites out today? http://www.jambase.com http://www.jambands.com http://www.jambase.com/festivals .. Find out where your favorite band is playing. Pollstar (The concert hotwire) http://www.pollstar.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: "The Iron Muffin" From: "The Iron Muffin" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:53:07 -0400 Sherry wrote: > Let's try this again, with the actual words in my head > that did not accurately translate thru my fingers the > first time. :) I'll blame it on the painkillers. :) Heh. -- The Iron Muffin DEAD FREAKS UNITE Who are you? Where are you? How are you? ------------------------------ s share of premiums for family health coverage was $2,713 in 2005, or about a quarter of the total cost. The average employee contribution has increased by more than $1,000 in three years. Employers, equally hard-pressed by the increases, increasingly are dropping health coverage as an employee benefit or offering high-deductible plans that shift more cost - and more risk - on to employees. Just 60 percent of businesses offered health insurance in 2005, down from 69 percent in 2000, the study found. The employer-sponsored system of health care in America is relatively recent, tracing its roots back to wage and price controls implemented by the government during World War II. To attract workers, some companies began offering health benefits as a perk, said John R. Graham, director of health care studies at the Pacific Research Institute in San Francisco. But ``employers don't have a competitive advantage to providing you health insurance any more than they have in buying you a house or a pair of running shoes,'' Graham said. Small companies are most likely to drop coverage due to cost concerns, according to the Menlo Park, Calif.-based Kaiser Family Foundation, which is not affiliated with health provider Kaiser Permanente. ``The cumulative effect of rising costs is that we are seeing a slow deterioration of our employment-based health insurance system, which is the backbone of health care in this country,'' said Drew E. Altman, president of the Kaiser Family Foundation. ``We are somewhat paralyzed in finding a solution.'' Indeed, while Congress has passed some limited health-care measures, such as a new Medicare prescription drug benefit, efforts to revamp the system have failed. Meanwhile, the number of Americans without health insurance continues to grow, with the U.S. Census Bureau reporting last year that the number of Americans without coverage grew to a record 45 million. Some workers are taking action on their own by abandoning employer-sponsored health coverage. Among them is Christie Apostolo, 29, who decided with her husband this spring they had to stop spending $800 a month through her employer to cover the couple and their two young children if they ever were going to save enough for a house with their combined annual income of $82,000. Through an online insurance brokerage firm, she found a $498-a-month plan with Los Angeles-based Health Net Inc. Her new plan has a $30 co-pay to see a doctor four times a year, vision and dental coverage, and a $500 deductible - far less than the $2,500 deductible her old plan had. ``It's a couple hundred dollars a month we saved, but that's groceries for the week,'' said Apostolo, who lives in Pacific Grove, Calif. AP-NY-09-14-05 2130EDT ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:32:53 +0900 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:zuWdnd1Cjq6MXLXeRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > > "band beyond description" <123@456.com> wrote in message > news:3orsueF7f4l4U1@individual.net... > > If any more reliable RMGD folks who want to get in on the vine (there are > > about five people now), let me know ASAP! I'll try to get it squared > > away, letting all participants know the relevant arrangements, and have it > > out my door in the mailstream by the end of this weekend or early next > > week. > > Reliable??? Well no wonder you have only five folks signed up. > > Is there a vine that we fuckups can sign up for? > > R. > > heh. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: Gigantic CD Giveaway Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:35:41 +0900 "Josh" wrote in message news:3a_Ve.16798$626.8783@trndny08... > > "Stuknot" wrote in message > news:1126720626.762680.271850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > > Finally, something to listen to on my gigantic CD player! > > > > Just be careful with your gigantic headphones... > > -Josh > > what?! I can't hear you!! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: Junter522 Subject: Re: CD Giveaway Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:52:36 GMT BigRR wrote: > Hi Folks, > I still have 6 100 CD lots to give away. I'll get the postage cost > tomorrow but I guess around $10. Replace huh with rcn to email me. > > Peace, Rick Now lets hear you pricks talk shit about Rick!!!!! Gary ------------------------------ From: Junter522 Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:59:51 GMT seraphim wrote: > I am hitting Radio City, and I am very excited please post a review on the > show!! > "Kelly Humphries" wrote in message > news:0rrhi1tk9tdo14aivjjhjn1rheo4l1cm79@4ax.com... > >>At least, I'll find out if they still can, this Saturday at the >>beloved Paramount Theater (inconveniently located at ground zero of >>light rail construction downtown, so I'll be making use of that free >>bus pass from the day job, thanks). >> >>Anyone else going? >> >>Didn't think so. >> >>What, you got something against bands who haven't recorded an album in >>nearly ten years? ;-) Bah. Have fun, whatever you're doing that >>night.... > > > Radio City huh I'm there. These guys & Gals are awesome. ------------------------------ From: "Mr Jimmy" Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: 15 Sep 2005 03:42:01 -0700 I agree that horns with reggae are great.... the Doug Sahm Band was pretty cool back when I was a lad...they played before the Grateful Dead in Syracuse on 9-17-73....then the Horn players Joe Ellis & Martin Fiero played most of the 2nd set with the Dead.... it was magical! anyone wanting the Dead CD should contact me. When Clarence Clemmons son heard his dad had played with the dead.....he was REALLY impressed! "Oh dad Jerry Garcia! " ordinarily I hate horns as I play countrified rock....but those Tejajo flavored Horns were the chit. ------------------------------ From: wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:53:35 +0000 (UTC) In article <4328CCD6.4000100@pclink.com>, Tom Beck wrote: >RickNBarbInSD wrote: >> Dear Red States... Maybe if yall spent less time smokin dope and pattin yourself on your collective back for bein so goddam superior yall might have more of an influence on the country's direction. Course that would interfere with your personal lives a bit. ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: 15 Sep 2005 04:57:52 -0700 well, i'm pumped to catch the BU show. i'm sick of the old P&F lineup...and ready for a new sound w/some new blood. ------------------------------ From: "observer part II" Subject: Jerry Quote 09-15-05 Date: 15 Sep 2005 04:58:06 -0700 Sometimes a strange person in the crowd, a stranger, would appear and say a sentence to me, and that sentence would say everything that I need to hear at that moment. It was like God speaking to you. ------------------------------ From: "pv34pv3p" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 15 Sep 2005 05:01:51 -0700 Thus we see that America is not only purple but also psychedelic. 8-o ( various cartographic representations of the election can be found here: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/ ) > Re-run the stats by county and the figures would be considerably less > in all regards, except perhaps crime rate. You forgot population. And education. And income, tax revenue, and venture capital. And the number of top-quality universities, high-tech corporations, and wineries. And the number of people who believe in evolution, global warming, and other truths about reality that have been proven by science. And the number of people who know that that Saddam was not involved in 9/11. And probably the successful marriage rate too. Ray Ray, I didn't forget anything...I was merely pointing out that the stats in the ORIGINAL POST were not accurate, and as seemingly dominant as purported... Again, if the ORIGINAL post had used the further refined (and agreeably more accurate) umich data, the numbers would not be anywhere near the percentages claimed... Of course many will continue to spout the original scewed data to further some political agenda, even when proven to be patently false, and misleading... What it boils down to is; What's the color, and who makes, the Cool Aid your drinking??? Too red, or too blue, prolly indicates a poisonous batch... pv34pv3p(Like we need another reason to drink beer...) ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: The rap community steps up...(ndc) Date: 15 Sep 2005 05:05:46 -0700 George Bush doesn't care about black people (remix) http://ia300135.us.archive.org/0/items/George_Bush_Doesnt_Like_Black_People/GeorgeBushDoesntCareAboutBlackPeople.mp3 Mark ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Anyone have a vacation coming up? Date: 15 Sep 2005 05:21:16 -0700 Wondering where you can go for your vacation this year?? Well, HERE is your answer, fine RMGD folk: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5614695213&fromMakeTrack=true Be sure to read all the way through, some good stuff. Mark ------------------------------ From: Sean Subject: The Weemawompas Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:34:20 -0400 The Radiators w/Bob Weir http://www.lexlawgroup.com/weemawompas/ "The Weema Woppas" 9/11/05 - Sweetwater, Mill Valley, CA 1- You Ain't Goin Nowhere, Something You Got, Confidential, Brickyard Blues, I Got To Find Somebody*, My Babe*, Maggie's Farm**->Big River**, Last Fair Deal Gone Down*, Mama Tried** 2- Whole Lotta Love (tease), Solitary Man, Come On (Part 1), You Won't Miss What You Can't Measure, St. James Infirmary->Pass Out The Hatchets->Born To Be Wild (verse)->Keep On Poppin' That Shine, On Broadway->Do You Feel Like We Do***, The Word->Talk Talk (chorus), Black Is Black, Iko Iko E- Instrumental****, Sympathy For The Devil, Gloria->Uptight (Everything's Alright)->Gloria *- with Bob Weir - guitar **- ...and lead vocals ***- Camile vocal - doing the Frampton guitar/voice thing. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Is there a right way to seal a smoke when using Club papers? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:45:54 -0400 "ba ba booie" wrote in message news:12539-4329232D-149@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net... cpkver8@BURDENadelphia.net (ck) wrote: i always only rolled with s.d. modiano clubs sans glue. the little ones... bbb wrote: I think I have used those kind of papers. Were those the one's with the glue over the whole paper? Is that these papers? :http://store1.yimg.com/I/buddhasbellyonline_1859_45411168 I just remember using papers called Club. With the older guy on the cover. The question I have is, in my daze of using these papers I have come across a couple of ways to seal the smoke when your are done wrapping it. Which one is right? (1) I have seen some people shred a thin piece off of the top of the sheet. Then slobber over the whole thing until it was sealed. (2) I have seen some people just wrap the whole thing and then just slobber all over it until it was saturated and then all the glue on the paper just gelled together. (3) I have seen some people just lick the top of the paper like there was glue on the top. Is there a right way and wrong way to seal those kind of papers? I used method #3. Out off all papers in the world I like to roll with those. I think there selling point is that it leaves no ash or very little? I gotta find some of those. They were pretty good back in the daze. But sometimes it just unrolled. There was no consistency. That's why I like/switched to E-Z wider lites. They are not the greatest, but the glue is amazing. Some people say the glue is from some kind of goop. Anyone know any info on that? I will try to seek out Club papers in my local tobacco shop. Usually you only find them in hippie/Rasta shops. What is with the hippies and their club papers? Is there a right way to seal a smoke when using Club papers? Right, those are them. LIttle ash, right . I never heard there was glue thru the whole paper i thought it had none just the thinness of it and your good old spit made them stick. It was kind of an art rolling a good joint with cut up kind bud but i could gte a good consistant # 2 pencil width spliff packed just right for a great draw. ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: Bush Shows Character, as Usual - Democrats Continue to Lie Date: 15 Sep 2005 05:55:57 -0700 grtflmark wrote: > ........ Bush continues to tell the truth - Broussard and the other New > Orleans City and Louisiana State officials continue to lie and not take > responsibility..... > > September 14, 2005 > > Another Katrina Myth: Aaron Broussard's "Emotional" Appearance on MTP and your point by posting this is what exactly?? I wont even ask what "charactor" Bush has showed. Maybe it was using some poor victims for photo ops ONE WEEK after the hurricane. Or maybe it was his half-assed attempt at taking some responsiblity. Or was it when he offered to help rebuild poor Tom DeLay's house? That showed real charactor. Dude, everyone in the world now knows that the state, local, and FEDERAL governments f-ed up big time with Katrina. Maybe people focus more on the FEDERAL f-ups because the state and local governments WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HURRICANE, while our federal government was on fucking summer vacation and at fund raisers!!!! How hard is that to accept?? Believe me, there is enough blame in this to go around.... ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .