From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #284 Dead-Flames Digest #284, Volume #48 Wed, 14 Sep 05 21:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Beverly Hills' Vegans (NDC) ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("Steve Terry") Speaking of horns... (the.stugots@gmail.com) Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) (Joe) Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 (greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com) Re: Speaking of horns... ("ck") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("ck") Re: Beverly Hills' Vegans (NDC) ("ck") Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 ("ck") Re: Speaking of horns... ("John") Re: You Rupp! (B&P) (Kelly Humphries) Re: Drive Thru Flirtations ("Dave Kelly") Re: Speaking of horns... (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("imsjry") Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) (JimK) Re: Speaking of horns... ("media69") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Dave") Re: Drive Thru Flirtations (jizzlobber@intergate.com) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Dickey Betts in SF (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: Drive Thru Flirtations (JimK) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("Dave Kelly") Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 (JimK) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("ck") Re: Speaking of horns... (JimK) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (the.stugots@gmail.com) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("Neil X.") Dead Can Dance (Kelly Humphries) Re: Are You Giving Me This "Free Life" The RIGHT Way?.... ("grtflmark") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Beverly Hills' Vegans (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 18:59:48 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > "Joe" wrote in message > news:3oonatF71uqvU1@individual.net... > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > > >> Conspicuous mass consumer consumption is the mantra of Marinites these > >> days. > > > >> Sure, its better than a lot of places. Its not the worst by far. But it > >> isn't even close to the ballpark many other far less wealthy communities > >> live in. > > > Your jealousy over not being able to afford to live where you were born is > > showing. > > LOL. I just came back inside from hand feeding the twin fawns who call my > property home. "Fawns" eh, Toad? Do they have freckles? Mark ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:00:49 -0500 "ck" wrote in message news:IsCdnY5g94kbTbXeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > > "Steve Terry" wrote in message > news:dgai78$f4m$1@news.iquest.net... >> >> wrote in message >> news:1126745449.203733.311040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >i would dig LOM so very deeply, >> > if there was no sax. at times the brass >> > is overbearing, and detracts from any subtlety of a given tune. >> > as i was listening over the weekend, >> > my friend's wife commented that the sax >> > gave LOM a Saturday Night Live band sound >> > circa mid seventies. SRYK. >> > >> >> So you guys are essentially saying that you like rock 'n roll and not > jazz. >> Fair? >> >> > > The recon horns were pretty good. The LOMhorns were to me as grating as > when he played with the Dead in '73. just not my cup of tea. Horns have > their place. I am watching the 21st Century Schizoid band Live in japan > 2002 DVD as i type and theyhave two horn players . that works well. I > like > The pat Metheny group with horns and of course old King Crimson.Not sure > why Martin Fiero's playing with LOM bugs me but simply put it, to me > it > sounds plain bad. Maybe its the kind of horn he's playing or the way its > recorded but i just don't like it in there. > > I guess I haven't heard enough to dislike it. I just started listening to this stuff and am digging it so far. This Martin Fiero ranks right down there with Donna and Vince evidently. ------------------------------ From: the.stugots@gmail.com Subject: Speaking of horns... Date: 14 Sep 2005 19:01:14 -0700 Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does work? I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him out, and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock without brass. In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. just a thought, not a sermon... -m ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: Last call for Syd vine! (LONG & NDC) Date: 15 Sep 2005 02:07:40 GMT band beyond description <123@456.com> wrote: > there's a lot of Floyd contained on this; read the full text and if you > want in...... Well, the Roger Waters era was the one I loved the best, and as much as I'd like to hear this early Floyd collection, I'm going to be gone for a few weeks, and the timing just isn't good for me to copy and send along. Joe ------------------------------ From: greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 Date: 14 Sep 2005 19:15:47 -0700 Thank you katrinka. I like your posts the best. .. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:28:09 -0400 wrote in message news:1126748996.807992.245360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does > work? > I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him > out, > and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock > without brass. > > In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. > > just a thought, not a sermon... > > > -m > if you hadn't qualified that with 'traditional' i'd have said King Crimson. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:29:22 -0400 "Steve Terry" wrote in message news:dgalue$g5l$1@news.iquest.net... > > "ck" wrote in message > news:IsCdnY5g94kbTbXeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > > > > "Steve Terry" wrote in message > > news:dgai78$f4m$1@news.iquest.net... > >> > >> wrote in message > >> news:1126745449.203733.311040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >> >i would dig LOM so very deeply, > >> > if there was no sax. at times the brass > >> > is overbearing, and detracts from any subtlety of a given tune. > >> > as i was listening over the weekend, > >> > my friend's wife commented that the sax > >> > gave LOM a Saturday Night Live band sound > >> > circa mid seventies. SRYK. > >> > > >> > >> So you guys are essentially saying that you like rock 'n roll and not > > jazz. > >> Fair? > >> > >> > > > > The recon horns were pretty good. The LOMhorns were to me as grating as > > when he played with the Dead in '73. just not my cup of tea. Horns have > > their place. I am watching the 21st Century Schizoid band Live in japan > > 2002 DVD as i type and theyhave two horn players . that works well. I > > like > > The pat Metheny group with horns and of course old King Crimson.Not sure > > why Martin Fiero's playing with LOM bugs me but simply put it, to me > > it > > sounds plain bad. Maybe its the kind of horn he's playing or the way its > > recorded but i just don't like it in there. > > > > > > I guess I haven't heard enough to dislike it. I just started listening to > this stuff and am digging it so far. This Martin Fiero ranks right down > there with Donna and Vince evidently. > > i don't mean to disparagage LOM . I have some and break it out occasionally . Jerry is Jerry man so it isn't THAT bad LOL!! ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Beverly Hills' Vegans (NDC) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:31:41 -0400 "Rogues Island's finest" wrote in message news:1126749588.379960.31590@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > "Joe" wrote in message > > news:3oonatF71uqvU1@individual.net... > > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > > > > > >> Conspicuous mass consumer consumption is the mantra of Marinites these > > >> days. > > > > > >> Sure, its better than a lot of places. Its not the worst by far. But it > > >> isn't even close to the ballpark many other far less wealthy communities > > >> live in. > > > > > Your jealousy over not being able to afford to live where you were born is > > > showing. > > > > LOL. I just came back inside from hand feeding the twin fawns who call my > > property home. > > "Fawns" eh, Toad? Do they have freckles? > > Mark > man if you are thinking about Courtney and Jennifer i will flipout...... identical twins covered in freckles with long auburn hair about 5'4" went to Vershire School in Vermont circa 1980ish ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:32:51 -0400 wrote in message news:1126750547.116075.221690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thank you katrinka. > > I like your posts the best. > > . > Lol!! Thanks lot ... ------------------------------ From: "John" Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: 14 Sep 2005 19:35:25 -0700 the.stugots@gmail.com ha escrito: > Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does > work? > I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him > out, > and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock > without brass. > > In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. > > just a thought, not a sermon... Early Chicago? Blood, Sweat and Tears? ------------------------------ From: Kelly Humphries Subject: Re: You Rupp! (B&P) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:50:50 -0700 Also sprach The Lord of Eltingville: > *heh* I originally had "Buttload O' Dead B&P" for the subject, but > changed my mind at the last minute... WIIAA... oh, never mind... ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Drive Thru Flirtations Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:07:31 GMT "Pete" wrote in message news:wy4We.11757$9i4.1185@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Did you give her a shower head? * Nah.....NO showerheads, pardner! How DARE you!....HOW dare you equate me with that ree-tod Boo Boo Bear!...you disappoint me, my friend! ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: 14 Sep 2005 19:55:10 -0700 Just off the top of my head: Bill Haley and the Comets Los Lobos The Sir Douglas Quartet The Rolling Stones (you can't deny they make heavy use of horn players) Zero Larry ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 19:56:57 -0700 Cozmik Charlie T wrote: > "imsjry" wrote in message > news:1126728326.961562.46080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I just can't get into this Legion of Mary stuff. I like all things > > Jerry too. There isn't a period of Jerry/Dead that I don't love for > > various reasons. But I could never get into the LOM stuff. I LOVE jazz > > too. It just all sounds...sterle and under-rehearsed or something. Any > > other heads just not dig the LOM? > > > > By the way I have the Pure Jerry and the new Rhino releases. Still > > nada.. > > > > You suck? Umm...f you? Let's be honest folks with LOM-when Jerry isn't soloing, there is NOTHING happening. I mean sometimes for like 5 minutes. It just isn't interesting to really focus on. It's more like background music and I can't say that about any other band Jerry was involved with. It's not bad by any stretch because Jery still plays and sings but it just doesn't have that X factor. Except for the Wicked Messenger on the bonus disc from the Rhino release. Now THAT is a smoker! ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Michael Moore Letter of 9-14-05 (NDC) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:58:08 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 14 Sep 2005 09:38:34 -0700, "Rogues Island's finest" wrote: > >leftie wrote: >> Jethro Q. Walrustitty wrote: >> > Fuck him and eveyone who looks like him... >> >> You mean overweight people, like, say, Jerry Garcia? > >Jerry wasn't overweight, he was big boned. > >Mark Nope, he was just too short for his weight. If only he could have gotten taller, he still might be with us. JimK ------------------------------ From: "media69" Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:00:32 GMT Lets see. how about Chicago back in the early 70's? wrote in message news:1126748996.807992.245360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does > work? > I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him > out, > and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock > without brass. > > In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. > > just a thought, not a sermon... > > > -m > ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:01:00 -0700 Hater ------------------------------ From: "Dave" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:00:39 +1200 wrote in message news:1126739345.101214.14050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks for posting that, Rick. > I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less eloquently. > If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing scientific > concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start with > the Theory of Gravity! > Larry Done. Remember, that's the Theory of Intelligent Falling. Dave ------------------------------ From: jizzlobber@intergate.com Subject: Re: Drive Thru Flirtations Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:02:17 -0700 Dave Kelly wrote: > ....So I go to the beach for some coffee....read the > paper...have you ever noticed folks at the coffee > shop at 10:30 am?....why aren't they at work? > I mean REALLY....whats UP with that? > You could come back 3 hours later, and these ree-todds > would STILL have the 1/2 a muffin in front of them..staring > off inna space...owning a coffee shop must be a drag.... > Anyways, after about an hour, I heads over to the liquor > store for a 12'er of Newcastel Ale...ya dig...and decide > to grab a bite at the "In-N'-Out Burger"....drive thru... > The Delta 88 is smoking sufficiently....crushed Pabst Blue > Ribbons cans in the dashboard....got the ZZ Top turned up... > I orders a "Double Double/Cheese/Onions"....get asked if I > want a soda...I point to the Newcastle riding shotgun...smile.. > get to the 2nd window to pick up...young chick...we make > eye contact...asks if I want x-tra ketchup (natch)....as she > hands over the bag, she says "have a great day"....and then... > dig this.....she WINKS at me!....ME!....damn near made > my day!.. OK....she COULD have been temporaily overcome > with the fumes from the french fry machine...a faulty contact > lens....but for that ONE moment...that perfect rush. > > Sweetbac Productions Sounds terrifying ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:02:54 -0700 Dave Kelly and Chris the Christer...haters all. Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeen! The man rocks. Larry ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:07:42 -0700 imsjry wrote: > It just all sounds...sterle and under-rehearsed or something. Not often does one find "sterile" and "under-rehearsed" in the same sentence. (I haven't heard LOM.) Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Dickey Betts in SF Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:16:38 -0700 Got my ticket for Dickey Betts & Great Southern next week at the Independant. Anyone else going? Also got ordered tickets tonight for Govt moe. at the Warfield next month. I know all y'all will turn out for that, right? Larry ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Drive Thru Flirtations Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:17:58 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:59:03 GMT, "Dave Kelly" wrote: >....So I go to the beach for some coffee....read the >paper...have you ever noticed folks at the coffee >shop at 10:30 am?....why aren't they at work? >I mean REALLY....whats UP with that? >You could come back 3 hours later, and these ree-todds >would STILL have the 1/2 a muffin in front of them..staring >off inna space...owning a coffee shop must be a drag.... >Anyways, after about an hour, I heads over to the liquor >store for a 12'er of Newcastel Ale...ya dig...and decide >to grab a bite at the "In-N'-Out Burger"....drive thru... >The Delta 88 is smoking sufficiently....crushed Pabst Blue >Ribbons cans in the dashboard....got the ZZ Top turned up... >I orders a "Double Double/Cheese/Onions"....get asked if I >want a soda...I point to the Newcastle riding shotgun...smile.. >get to the 2nd window to pick up...young chick...we make >eye contact...asks if I want x-tra ketchup (natch)....as she >hands over the bag, she says "have a great day"....and then... >dig this.....she WINKS at me!....ME!....damn near made >my day!.. OK....she COULD have been temporaily overcome >with the fumes from the french fry machine...a faulty contact >lens....but for that ONE moment...that perfect rush. > >Sweetbac Productions > Well, it could have been because you're just so damned HANDSOME!! JimK ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:34:41 GMT wrote in message news:1126753260.528771.287750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hater * Aw...here we go...ya have to keep it in perspective, larry. I grew up listening to Coltrane.. Dexter Gordon...Sonny Rollins... where would you place Fierro in there? Ya dont. If this dude hadn't hooked up with the Dead scene, this guy would have never had a 30 year career..maybe in a lounge act ....strip bar...but he finagled his way into the Dead family, and they have kept his career alive somehow. I guess he's fun to party with...thats cool...but he is a mere competent horn player. I aint got TIME for mere competent horn players. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - Phil Lesh and Friends Winter Tour 2005 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:27:52 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:56:55 -0400, "katrinka" wrote: >We are pleased to announce mail order information for > >"SHADOW OF THE MOON" - WINTER TOUR 2005 > >PHIL LESH AND FRIENDS, >FEATURING CHRIS ROBINSON. >JIMMY HERRING >JOHN MOLO >MOOKIE SIEGEL >BARRY SLESS > >First day to mail in for all these shows will be Friday, >September 16. > >Monday, November 21 at the Sovereign Center, >Reading, PA. >Doors open at 6:00 PM. Show time is 7:00 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved >at $43.50 per ticket. > >Tuesday and Wednesday, November 22 and 23 at >the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, Newark, NJ. >Doors open at 7:00 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >$59.00 per ticket. > >Friday and Saturday, November 25 and 26 at >the Chicago Theatre, Chicago, IL. >Doors open at 6:00 PM. Show time is 7:00 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >either $54.00 per ticket, or $49.00 per ticket. > >Sunday, November 27 at the Eagles Ballroom, >Milwaukee, WI. >Doors open at 6:00 PM. Show time is 7:00 PM. >All ages welcome. General admission tickets are >$35.00 per ticket. > >Tuesday, November 29 at the Palumbo Center >at Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA. >Doors open at 6:30 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. All tickets are reserved at >$42.50 per ticket. > >Thursday, December 1 at the Agganis Arena at >Boston University, Boston, MA. >Doors open at 6:30 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >$44.00 per ticket. > >Friday, December 2 at the Patriot Center at >George Mason University, Fairfax, VA. >Doors open at 6:00 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. Tickets are $44.00 per >for both general admission on the floor, and >reserved in the stands. Please specify. > >Saturday, December 3 at the Shea's Performing >Arts Center, Buffalo, NY. >Doors open at 6:00 PM. Show time is 7:00 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >$49.00 per ticket. > >Sunday, December 4 at the Washington Street >Armory, Albany, NY. >Doors open at 6:30 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. General admission tickets >are available at $39.00 per ticket. > >Tuesday, December 6 at the Chevrolet Theater, >Wallingford, CT. >Doors open at 6:30 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >$44.00 per ticket. > >Thursday, Friday and Saturday, December 8, 9 and 10 >at the House of Blues, Atlantic City, NJ. >Doors open at 7:00 PM. Show time is 8:00 PM. >All ages are welcome. General admission floor >tickets are available at $46.00. Reserved seats >in the Balcony are $61.00 per ticket. > >Monday and Tuesday, December 12 and 13 at >The Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA. >Doors open at 6:30 PM. Show time is 7:30 PM. >All ages are welcome. All seats are reserved at >$43.50 per ticket. > This tour runs from November 21 through December 13. Why is it being referred to as a Winter tour? And no, this is not a contest. So please DO NOT send emails! JimK ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0400 wrote in message news:1126753662.844720.72620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > imsjry wrote: > > It just all sounds...sterle and under-rehearsed or something. > > Not often does one find "sterile" and "under-rehearsed" in the same > sentence. > > (I haven't heard LOM.) > > Pat Buzby > Chicago, IL > if you can download a shn. or two check 'em out under 'lom' http://www.gdlive.com/jerryshn/ ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Speaking of horns... Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:30:27 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 14 Sep 2005 19:35:25 -0700, "John" wrote: >the.stugots@gmail.com ha escrito: > >> Can anyone name a traditional 'rock' band where a horn section does >> work? >> I guess if Springsteen is to your liking, Clemmons does work-take him >> out, >> and you have a completely different sound. In general, i prefer my rock >> without brass. >> >> In contrast, horns compliment reggae a great deal. >> >> just a thought, not a sermon... > >Early Chicago? Blood, Sweat and Tears? Van Morrison has done a good job incorporating horns into his music. I don't know if you'd call that music "traditional" rock, although I think some of it certainly qualifies. JimK ------------------------------ From: the.stugots@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:37:23 -0700 don't forget lester young and coleman hawkins... ------------------------------ From: "Neil X." Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:38:54 -0700 > Dave Kelly wrote: > > I grew up listening to Coltrane.. Dexter Gordon...Sonny Rollins... > where would you place Fierro in there? > Ya dont. He's right, you know. > If this dude hadn't hooked up with the Dead scene, this guy > would have never had a 30 year career..maybe in a lounge act > ...strip bar...but he finagled his way into the Dead family, and > they have kept his career alive somehow. So the Dead fucked up his chance to spend his entire life in strip bars?? The horror....... > he is a mere competent horn player. That is the kindest thing I've ever heard you say about him. But I agree, he doesn't do it for me, either. But I have no problem ignoring him--he doesn't ruin the music, he just doesn't add anything to it. The 1973 GD shows he appears on--they're great shows, his presence doesn't do anything to detract from the music, IMO. So he's not the reason that I, too, don't much care for LOM. They just don't get after it in the same way that GD and earlier Jerry & Merl shows did...... > I aint got TIME for mere competent horn players. Yeah, but you got plenty of time to sodomize that aardvark, doncha? Priorities still straight, I see. Peace, Neil X. ------------------------------ From: Kelly Humphries Subject: Dead Can Dance Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:54:32 -0700 At least, I'll find out if they still can, this Saturday at the beloved Paramount Theater (inconveniently located at ground zero of light rail construction downtown, so I'll be making use of that free bus pass from the day job, thanks). Anyone else going? Didn't think so. What, you got something against bands who haven't recorded an album in nearly ten years? ;-) Bah. Have fun, whatever you're doing that night.... ------------------------------ From: "grtflmark" Subject: Re: Are You Giving Me This "Free Life" The RIGHT Way?.... Date: 14 Sep 2005 20:56:07 -0700 DG Sep 14, 12:35 am show options Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead From: DG - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:35:11 -0700 Local: Wed, Sep 14 2005 12:35 am Subject: Re: Are You Giving Me This "Free Life" The RIGHT Way?.... Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 21, 12:35 am). - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - grtflmark wrote: >>The Lord of Eltingville Sep 10, 5:04 am show options >>Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead >>From: The Lord of Eltingville ogre.net> - Find messages by this author >>Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:04:30 -0400 >>Local: Sat, Sep 10 2005 5:04 am >>Subject: Re: Are You Giving Me This "Free Life" The RIGHT >Way?.... >>Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | >Show original | Report Abuse >>Imagine the nerve of "those people" not wanting to jump at the >chance to move on up and live with the white man... >........ when you say "those people", do you mean "these people"?: >WHO ARE "MY PEOPLE?" >By Michelle Malkin ? September 13, 2005 10:05 AM >Have you noticed the prevalence of this phrase in the aftermath of >Katrina? It bugs me: >Kanye West: "...those are my people down there." >Sean Combs: "These are my people." >Aaron Neville: "That's my hometown, that's my people." >Amar?toudemire: "I see a lot of my people struggling and I? really >trying to show a lot of support and get them on the right track, and do >whatever it takes to make that happen.? >Christie Bazar: "These are my people." >Quan Hong Huyn stayed behind ?o help my people.? >It's a shame you don't realize those are our people. They are >Americans. ........... well, that's my poiint - these are Americans, and instead the individuals quoted seem obsessed with separating them from being mainstream Americans by putting them in racial silos --- they put "those people" - which is the same as "my people" - in racial silos as if they were exclusive of other Americans who are also suffering....... so, get real ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .