From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #281 Dead-Flames Digest #281, Volume #48 Wed, 14 Sep 05 17:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: P&F Tour 2005 ("Dave Kelly") Re: The Meters at the Fillmore ("Eli Renfro") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: The Meters at the Fillmore ("Renegade Priest") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Don Bean") Re: Tie Dyin' Fool pt2 (RossMcGibbon) Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Stuknot") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: [NDC] Divine Unhappyness ("Sean Baker") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Even though no one else cares...... 20 years ago today (Seth Jackson) Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? ("ck") Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? (Seth Jackson) Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("ck") Re: Tie Dyin' Fool pt2 ("Nick's Picks") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt (Seth Jackson) Small World (was Re: We bought a hybrid) (Joe) Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Andrew Murawa") Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt ("Ray") Re: Small World (was Re: We bought a hybrid) ("ck") Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("regaejunkyjew") Re: The War On Science (NDC) ("RickNBarbInSD") Re: The War On Science (NDC) (Joe) Re: 4/7/85 DVD OFFER CLOSED (band beyond description) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: P&F Tour 2005 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:00:33 GMT "Cozmik Charlie T" wrote in message news:Y6ydneZGwOYr_rXeRVn-iA@comcast.com... > > "Olompali4" wrote in message > news:1126717532.740867.206480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> http://phillesh.net/philzonepages/friends_stuff/moon.html >> > > That tour sucks ass. * I dont know if the tour sucks...the music might.... Chris Robinson?...it IS good to see Mookie get a chance to flex the chops The Nelson Band does NOT have.... when I saw him play with Kimmy a month ago, I wasn't expecting too much...he more than held his own...VERY good key man...wonder if Sless will be audible over the racket that James "One Scale" Herring brings?.... anyways, I heard that place in Newark is a righteous venue. I'm actually surprised brother Phil is making the east coast... his kid has mid term finals that month. Dont get me STARTED! Mookie Sweetbac ------------------------------ From: "Eli Renfro" Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:09:13 -0400 "pookietooth" wrote in message news:1126738218.391667.246440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Dave Kelly wrote: > > The original band...Art Neville/Zigaboo/George Porter/Nocentelli > > November 18th & 19th > > Fillmore auditorium - San Francisco > > $75.00 > > Um....did I just type $75.00 > > Lemmee check. > > Yeah.....$75.00 > > Pass. > > $75 is kind of steep. But the original Meters at the Fillmore? That's > gotta sell out in less than an hour. Tix are still onsale (for a month now) for the NYC show, Friday night, Thanksgiving weekend. Should have sold out in no time. ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:09:05 -0700 Thanks for posting that, Rick. I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less eloquently. If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing scientific concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start with the Theory of Gravity! Larry ------------------------------ From: "Renegade Priest" Subject: Re: The Meters at the Fillmore Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:09:54 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Is this some kind of Katrina benefit? And if it is, why does she need the money? Renegade Priest ------------------------------ From: "Don Bean" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:16:53 -0400 I love this map because it really shows things well.... It shows that its not red state - blue state..... its more city - country ... People in cites tend to be more deverse , maybee because they have to... by the way Bush is the worst in a long time... he was smart in one way though... Trading tax cuts in return for votes did work for him... Bean (gotta love 'blue' new england ) "pv34pv3p" wrote in message news:1126736524.728183.229630@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I don't think seperating by red and blue states would achive what you > want... > > Prolly oughta try it by county to get a more accurate representation of > where blues actually dominate... > > http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/7902 > > Re-run the stats by county and the figures would be considerably less > in all regards, except perhaps crime rate. > > pv34pv3p(Saw a bird with a tear in his eye...Walkin' to New Orleans my, > my my.) > ------------------------------ From: RossMcGibbon Subject: Re: Tie Dyin' Fool pt2 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:19:12 +0100 Nick, those are great. Did you get my email, replying to your first thread? 'Cos I wanted a couple of these beauties. Replying to the group in case I got the addy wrong or something. WOBT SKB 3.27.04 no B only P (or in English - waste of bandwidth tax - Steve Kimmock Band 3.27.04 - 2 discs. Postage only, free discs). For the first to ask. Ross In article <1126734115.543424.160690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Nick's Picks writes >here are the results of the first round of orders: >http://www.nickspicks.tzo.com/ > > > >Anyone in for the next round? >more tapastry pics coming later. > >I'll be getting adult S and youth sizes this time around. >of course, XL and L and larger if anyone desires. > >who owns a store and wants to buy wholesale? >who's on tour and wants to sell dyes? >:) > -- RossMcGibbon For music reviews, arts, opinions and more - www.vanguard-online.co.uk "I've been all around the world and I've never seen a statue of a critic" - Leonard Bernstein ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:21:07 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks for posting that, Rick. > I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less eloquently. > If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing scientific > concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start with > the Theory of Gravity! > Larry http://www.venganza.org/ John H. ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:22:34 -0700 joker4153@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks for posting that, Rick. > I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less eloquently. > If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing scientific > concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start with > the Theory of Gravity! > Larry That's what I tell'em. Gravity is "only a thoery", go jump off a bridge!!! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: Re: [NDC] Divine Unhappyness Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:21:51 -0500 Gravity is ONLY a theory. After all Jeesus walked on wudder, 'member!? An he NEVER smiled... which leads me to my next proselityzashin... The theory of NEGATIVITY!!! Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB wrote in message news:1126739345.101214.14050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks for posting that, Rick. > I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less eloquently. > If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing scientific > concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start with > the Theory of Gravity! > Larry > ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:23:50 -0700 Stuknot wrote: > http://www.venganza.org/ > > John H. Ain't that a scream?!?! Rick ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Even though no one else cares...... 20 years ago today Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:26:54 GMT On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:21:49 -0700, "Andrew Murawa" wrote: >"Seth Jackson" wrote in message >news:2dqgi19b62m7a04cjrdkautcrhbtob5bs1@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:18:23 -0700, "Andrew Murawa" >> wrote: >> >>>"Seth Jackson" wrote in message >>>news:q2ffi15sk74hqc1im1biqvc0ndkve5b80v@4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:43:07 -0700, "Andrew Murawa" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Seth Jackson" wrote in message >>>>>news:f7quh1ljll0f2ne05ls5gbpsg1fmuerjgj@4ax.com... >>>>>> On 7 Sep 2005 12:30:33 -0700, "Carlisle" >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>LP wrote: >>>>>>>> September 7, 1985 was a very good day to be at Red Rocks, as I >>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>> with a small group of other humans listened to the Grateful Dead >>>>>>>> play a >>>>>>>> very fine concert. It wasn't in the '70s, so most of you won't >>>>>>>> care, >>>>>>>> but I really like it - even now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm gonna put it on right now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LP >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I CARE, LP!!! >>>>>>>That was around the time the Grateful Dead first really tripped my >>>>>>>universe. 1985 gets a bad rap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Huh? In many respects, '85 is the most overrated year. >>>>> >>>>>HRYK... Not that '85 was a bad year, but it weren't '73, for >>>>>instance... >>>> >>>> True, but my point was that many people consider it one of the >>>> Dead's >>>> best years. >>> >>>Right, that was my point too... '85 was indeed a good year, but it >>>wasn't up there with say '72-'74 or '77... >> >> Or even '83 or '84, IMO. > >I dunno, I don't think that '83 and '84 were as consistently good as >'85, nor did they reach the heighths of '85... I can't think of much from '85 that I prefer to the MSG/Hartford/Worcester shows from Fall of '83. Also, there was a lot more jamming in '84 than in '85. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:27:26 -0400 "imsjry" wrote in message news:1126728326.961562.46080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I just can't get into this Legion of Mary stuff. I like all things > Jerry too. There isn't a period of Jerry/Dead that I don't love for > various reasons. But I could never get into the LOM stuff. I LOVE jazz > too. It just all sounds...sterle and under-rehearsed or something. Any > other heads just not dig the LOM? > > By the way I have the Pure Jerry and the new Rhino releases. Still > nada.. > its because its too slow and Martin Fiero . ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:28:15 -0700 Ray wrote: > The know-nothings > > Pro-business Republicans and the religious right have joined in a > frighteningly successful campaign to undermine the findings of science. > I assume you've heard/seen this before but: "There WAS a time when religion ruled the world. They called it the 'Dark Ages'!!!!!" Rick ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: Why don't I like Legion of Mary??? Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:28:39 GMT On 14 Sep 2005 13:05:27 -0700, "imsjry" wrote: >I just can't get into this Legion of Mary stuff. I like all things >Jerry too. There isn't a period of Jerry/Dead that I don't love for >various reasons. But I could never get into the LOM stuff. I LOVE jazz >too. It just all sounds...sterle and under-rehearsed or something. Any >other heads just not dig the LOM? LOM is my favorite Jerry stuff ever. Jerry was on fire during this period. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:31:52 -0400 "RickNBarbInSD" wrote in message news:1126740495.689473.4360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Ray wrote: > > The know-nothings > > > > Pro-business Republicans and the religious right have joined in a > > frighteningly successful campaign to undermine the findings of science. > > > > > I assume you've heard/seen this before but: > > "There WAS a time when religion ruled the world. They called it the > 'Dark Ages'!!!!!" > > > Rick > right and we're doing SOOOOOO much better these days........ AIDS, TERRORISM,FAMINE,WAR,RAMPANT VIOLENT CRIME,RAP,CORPORATE and POLITICAL CORRUPTION.Except for AIDS and Rap the worlds are interchangeable in many areas. ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: Tie Dyin' Fool pt2 Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:32:05 -0700 ross... nope, i didnt' see your email the first time (if you have not heard anything from me). send again. :-) ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:32:46 GMT On 14 Sep 2005 13:30:04 -0700, "RickNBarbInSD" wrote: >all the Ivy and Seven Sister >schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT. Great post, but you're doing a little double-counting here. Harvard and Yale are included in the Ivy schools. Even MIT, which is not a member of the Ivy League, is an official member of the Ivy Group. ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Small World (was Re: We bought a hybrid) Date: 14 Sep 2005 23:35:27 GMT I just have to say...after being on rmgd for over 10 years, and having met dozens and dozens of rmgd'ers, the events of today just stunned me. Floored me, actually. I've been laughing all day about Deke_River's question of being at the Dead's 1977 NYE show at Winterland. I don't even remember being there, but in an e-mail, Deke named names, and they're sure names of people I used to go see the Dead with. Has anything like that ever happened to an rmgd'er before? To be contacted by someone, 28 years after the fact, by someone you tripped with at a Grateful Dead concert? That's just unbelievable to me. In a few e-mails, Deke and I made the connection. We do know someone in common. But, he hasn't seen that someone in 10 years, and I haven't seen her in 15. It's just amazing. It's a small world. What a trip. rmgd really is an incredible place. Joe ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:38:41 -0700 ck wrote: > right and we're doing SOOOOOO much better these days........ AIDS, > TERRORISM,FAMINE,WAR,RAMPANT VIOLENT CRIME,RAP,CORPORATE and POLITICAL > CORRUPTION.Except for AIDS and Rap the worlds are interchangeable in many > areas. And reverting to a 12th century mentality will help tremendously. Look at what it did for the peoples of Afghanistan and Iran!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Murawa" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:39:44 -0700 "Stuknot" wrote in message news:1126740067.306539.97650@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > joker4153@comcast.net wrote: >> Thanks for posting that, Rick. >> I've been saying the same thing for many years, albeit less >> eloquently. >> If the right-wing religious zealots want to start dismissing >> scientific >> concepts because they are only "theories", then I say let's start >> with >> the Theory of Gravity! >> Larry > > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > John H. Holy crap that is funny.... WWFSMD? ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: (NDC): Blue states revolt Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:41:37 -0700 RickNBarbInSD wrote: > Stuknot wrote: > > > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > > > John H. > > > > Ain't that a scream?!?! "Pastafarian" - ROTFL. ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: Small World (was Re: We bought a hybrid) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:42:40 -0400 "Joe" wrote in message news:3orqdvF7f873U1@individual.net... > > I just have to say...after being on rmgd for over 10 years, and having met > dozens and dozens of rmgd'ers, the events of today just stunned me. > Floored me, actually. I've been laughing all day about Deke_River's > question of being at the Dead's 1977 NYE show at Winterland. > > I don't even remember being there, but in an e-mail, Deke named names, and > they're sure names of people I used to go see the Dead with. > > Has anything like that ever happened to an rmgd'er before? To be contacted > by someone, 28 years after the fact, by someone you tripped with at a > Grateful Dead concert? That's just unbelievable to me. > > In a few e-mails, Deke and I made the connection. We do know someone in > common. But, he hasn't seen that someone in 10 years, and I haven't seen > her in 15. It's just amazing. > > It's a small world. > > What a trip. > > rmgd really is an incredible place. > > Joe > > > > That was my main goal when i first found this place.So far i have run in to two people . Gary(Junter) knew, apparently somewhat better , many people i knew casually and Eric from Lonestar Dead. Who was one of the first genuine deadheads i ever met back in Boston before embarking on about three years of touring .I really thought i'd meet many more as i did know alot of real heads. Who knows why they never found this place, its puzzled me. ------------------------------ From: "regaejunkyjew" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:43:34 -0700 wow you guys sure type alot. i couldn't read all that. i got things to do man. keep it brief. >"There WAS a time when religion ruled the world. They called it the >'Dark Ages'!!!!!" thats true. good point ------------------------------ From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 16:46:40 -0700 ck wrote: > right and we're doing SOOOOOO much better these days........ AIDS, > TERRORISM,FAMINE,WAR,RAMPANT VIOLENT CRIME,RAP,CORPORATE and POLITICAL > CORRUPTION.Except for AIDS and Rap the worlds are interchangeable in many > areas. I would assert that nearly ALL of the items in your list are fueled by religionism, and would be assuaged enormously if a more secular and humanistic approach were prevailing in the world. All apart from rap. I'm not sure there's any help for that!!!!! ;D Rick ------------------------------ From: Joe Subject: Re: The War On Science (NDC) Date: 14 Sep 2005 23:48:00 GMT RickNBarbInSD wrote: > "There WAS a time when religion ruled the world. They called it the > 'Dark Ages'!!!!!" I love that song. Originally done by World Entertainment War, and later on by The Jefferson Starship. What time is it, boys and girls? It's time for the Dark Ages! Your nightmares and traumas can make you rich and famous Commercials can teach you all that you need to know Kiss my flag Don't look back The past is gaining on us Read my lips Watch my hips These are the Dark Ages George Orwell's dream came true But no one realizes It crushed us so nicely with so much wit and style Entertainment might as well be just like a rocket launcher Too bad it's in the hands of the enemy Nobody believes me And so I know that I'm right Charisma addiction gives me a deja vu Is this like Germany in the 1930s? Do we have to live through the apocalypse again? Might be the Dark Ages But we're so happy Happy to be here today You never know when you might have to face the censor So I don't pretend to want to make too much sense Revolution on TV in far-off distant countries Too bad it's just another mini-series here Nobody believes me And so I know that I'm right Charisma hangover has got to wear off soon Could this be like Eastern Europe in the 1990s? Will we ever get a chance to have perestroika here ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: 4/7/85 DVD OFFER CLOSED Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:51:56 +0900 tom merrick is first past the post and will be the first to reoffer. -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .