From Yambolll@aol.com Sat Aug 26 11:41:02 2000 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA119608 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:41:01 -0700 From: Yambolll@aol.com Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA21555 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:41:01 -0700 Received: from Yambolll@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id d.3a.9a649d3 (15871) for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web41.aolmail.aol.com (web41.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.2]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:40:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:40:55 EDT Subject: Cicero and the "in crowd" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown Message-ID: <3a.9a649d3.26d96938@aol.com> Greetings to all. 1. Somewhere I read that Cicero was never invited to the parties, so to speak, of the "in crowd," while Atticus, on the other hand, was always a welcome guest at them. There is supossedly a letter in which Cicero asks Atticus to tell him all the juicy details of a party which was held by Clodia. Does anyone know of such a letter? 2. Can the list members offer some ideas as to why Cicero chose to make such an issue of adhering to old-time virtue in a period when the most successful politicians, statesmen, and generals were so obviously flouting it again and again? Thanks, Brad .