From bruce_thornton@csufresno.edu Sun Apr 11 10:48:22 1999 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA45192 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:48:21 -0700 Received: from shadow.csufresno.edu (shadow.csufresno.edu [129.8.57.22]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20596 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:48:21 -0700 Received: from zimmer.csufresno.edu (brucet@zimmer.csufresno.edu [129.8.50.100]) by shadow.csufresno.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11560 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brucet@localhost) by zimmer.csufresno.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27585 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Thornton Message-Id: <199904111748.KAA27585@zimmer.csufresno.edu> Subject: Re: Rhetoric in high places To: classics@u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Elias J Theodoracopoulos" at Apr 11, 99 11:09:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, after Clinton's state of the union speech I quoted one of the greatest commentaries on political rhetoric, Kleon's speech from Thucydides, and the list watch-dogs huffed and puffed about such irresponsible and irrelevant politicizing of the list etc etc (though it's funny we haven't heard from them lately when the Balkans spat was going on). Perhaps a willingness to expose the rhetorical persiflage of politicians (and to decry politicizing the list) depends on the flavor of the politician? Bruce (never voted Republican in his life) Thornton .