From mrsean@u.washington.edu Thu Apr 29 09:33:44 2004 Received: from mxu6.u.washington.edu (mxu6.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.12]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGXiPJ052234 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:44 -0700 Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mxu6.u.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGXgIM029873; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:43 -0700 Received: from dante61.u.washington.edu (dante61.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.113]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGXg4T000337; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (mrsean@localhost) by dante61.u.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGXf7H031436; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT) From: sean michael kelly To: Brian Rabkin cc: hartmaier1@hotmail.com, UWRACING Subject: Re: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman trial into a a gravel path. In-Reply-To: <002101c42e07$87869750$90945f80@astro> Message-ID: References: <001201c42daf$c71315e0$6798d080@HARTMAIER> <002101c42e07$87869750$90945f80@astro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='__TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __REFERENCES 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __CT 0, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION 0, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, REFERENCES 0.000, IN_REP_TO 0' the hearts of men hold no logic On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Brian Rabkin wrote: > If that is the logic the residents want then they should not be allowed to > do any landscaping or maintenance on their houses either! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Hartmaier" > To: "UWRACING" > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:04 PM > Subject: FW: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman > trial into a a gravel path. > > > Apparently some Lake Forest residents do not like cyclists on the BG and are > trying to pass an ordinance that would not allow any maintenance on the > trail since it goes over a wetland. Below is some more info on "what YOU > can do". I am sure that cascade bicycle club will be there in force to > oppose this, but drop by if you want your opinion to be heard. > > Public Meeting > May 13 at 7:30 pm at the City Hall > > Also, the city is renovating the Fremont Bridge and has neglected to pay any > attention to bike flow over the bridge for the new design. There is an open > house if anyone is concerned > http://www.cityofseattle.net/transportation/fremontbridgeapproaches.htm > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Hartmaier [mailto:Peter.Hartmaier@gte.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 21:40 > To: Ryan Hartmaier > Subject: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman trial > into a a gravel path. > > Some of your biking teammates and riders may be interested in this > development in Lake Forest Park. This ordinance is up for public comment on > May 13. When you ride the BG trail you know when you are in Lake Forest > Park when you hit the 10 mph speed limit signs. They have had police out on > the trial handing out speeding tickets to bikes in the past. Clearly, the > community is trying to > make it impractical for bikes to use the trail. This ordinance will remove > an exemption from the regulations regarding trials. That exemption allowed > the BG trail to made of impervious material (i.e. pavement) when it crossed > over wetland buffers. If this exemption is removed, King County will not be > allowed to continue the surface maintenance. We are unsure of what will > happen. Will the pavement be ripped out? Will the existing hard surface be > allowed to deteriorate? What is clear is that King County has a program to > maintain the trail and this ordinance will prevent that. It seems that with > pot holes and root bumps Lake City Council might get speed control or trail > avoidance. > > Cascade Bike Club will attend the public meeting. Cascade is strongly > opposed to this ordinance change on the grounds that the BG trail is a vital > link to the bicycle network and to have a section revert to soft surface > creates a hazard to biking, forces riders onto the traffic, and destroys an > asset for more people than those in Lake Forest Park. There will be more > information posted at http://www.cascade.org/Advocacy/ in the next few > days. > > Please forward this notice to your biking community. > > Public Meeting > May 13 at 7:30 pm at the City Hall > > > .